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TOPIC: Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries.

Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 14:55 #1

Right that does it for me. :nono:

In light of the latest revelations to what the so called ''Clarity Zone'' has now become, this now needs to stop.

The original purpose of the ''Clarity Zone'', and it's whole intention in the first place, was to give a platform to certain members who don't want to get involved with the rest of the forum. Fair enough, no problems there. However that's not the case anymore.

The ''Clarity Zone'' has now evolved into a secret closed forum where other members are now being secretly demonised and profiled behind closed doors!! Which is outrageous and a big kick in the teeth to 90% of the membership here. It needs to stop, and it needs to stop now.

I propose now and on the grounds they've totally abused their forum and used it for ulterior motives i.e to secretly demonise and profile other members here on Truth Zone.. that their forum now be made open to all, with total transparency.
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 15:02 #2

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I can't see any of it. I had wondered where all the Jewish commie fuckwits had gone to.

What are they doing?

How do you know what they are doing? Can you see it as a moderator?
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 15:08 #3

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If you can remember what they were doing before, you most probably know what they have been doing since then,
but if you thought things could not get worse ... this has now been made a hidden variable:




novum wrote:
Hi peeps long time no speak.

Seems zax has decided to move absolutely everything in clarity zone forum to the members area there, so only invitees can read it.

You aint missing much so dont worry about it. :hahano:

Im not sure what the deal is there or why it was done.

Nothing has been permanently deleted, just moved... only global mods and > globals can perma-delete stuff btw, and im the only one... and i havent and dont permanently delete anything.

So it aint been wiped, zax has just been busy moving stuff.

truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/67059-you-cannot-reply-to-this-topic.html#209532
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feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 15:09 #4

No I can't see any of it either. This needs sorting out though. This is total abuse of what the ''Clarity zone'' was originally set up for. It's an insult to 90% of the members here. You just can't have a closed secret forum within a forum where there's a number of control freaks using it as a place to profile and demonize other members. And all behind closed door!! This is outrageous.

And they have the nerve to call me somebody who abuses my Mod status. Utter Bullshit. it's them who are abusing a liberty. It's now only fair their forum be opened to other members. They have totally abused what the ''Clarity Zone'' was intentionally set up for. Which has now become their Stasi HQ where other members are being profiled and demonized in secret.

No way this type of thing should be happening here.
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 15:35 #5

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make a poll

they are probably really enjoying what I hope will be their short-lived middle finger gesture.


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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 15:40 #6

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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries



This headline might be a bit misleading from my pov, for if you ever read the advisory thread
there in the CZ, it was Novum who offered the possible features and they eventually decided
to play the full hide-and-seek-game, which reminds me very much of the then "porn den 'joke'"
now turned political and - as we can't know - perhaps even criminal.


My serious concerns were ignored since beginning of May, when I first atriculated them,
maybe someone is interested in reading them now:


(...) Manipulation of hundreds of quotes taken out of context without source is zax' speciality
and now at least three of those threads he created are hidden from the public eye in your
den and nobody knows what you are doing with them.

If this forum ever gets hacked all of those manipulated quotes will be attributed to the original commentators!
(...)
Full context: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/67059-you-cannot-reply-to-this-topic.html#208734



Not to speak of the vilification, defamation and most base verbal abuse in overabundance!

And Oracle is spot on, as more often than not in this respect, for, say what you will,
he knows "his" stasi as perfectly well as I know "my" hasbarats, denoting one and
the same:



Oracle wrote:
These people don't only transform entire nations into mental asylums, with the most insane running the show.
They also drive entire forum populations nuts, slowly but steadily if not appropriately dealt with.
Look at US and Europe, people who belong in a wire fenced sandbox run the show.

Source: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/67059-you-cannot-reply-to-this-topic.html#209540

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feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 15:55 #7

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Poor little Zorro doesn't have any control over a tiny section of the forum.

Stop crying like a baby for fucks sake. Get over yourself.
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 16:02 #8

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Zorro wrote:
Right that does it for me. :nono:

In light of the latest revelations to what the so called ''Clarity Zone'' has now become, this now needs to stop.

The original purpose of the ''Clarity Zone'', and it's whole intention in the first place, was to give a platform to certain members who don't want to get involved with the rest of the forum. Fair enough, no problems there. However that's not the case anymore.

The ''Clarity Zone'' has now evolved into a secret closed forum where other members are now being secretly demonised and profiled behind closed doors!! Which is outrageous and a big kick in the teeth to 90% of the membership here. It needs to stop, and it needs to stop now.

I propose now and on the grounds they've totally abused their forum and used it for ulterior motives i.e to secretly demonise and profile other members here on Truth Zone.. that their forum now be made open to all, with total transparency.

If you can't see what is happening in that part of the forum how are you coming to the conclusion that you have?
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 16:45 #9

Bullshit, it has nothing whatsoever to do with wanting any control over your secret little profiling of other members section, and everything to do with the fact it's making the majority of the membership here uneasy about these turn of events. And rightfully so. You've totally abused the ''Clarity Zone'' for what it was intentionally set up for, and you've now taken it one step too far. Well two steps too far to be more precise.

Is it right to have a secret section within a forum where judging on yours and Zax's previous form we all know it's also being used to log one sided smear campaigns against certain members here.

No, this has all gone way too far now. You already pushed the boat too far by excluding other members from replying to your one-sided and biased smear campaigns, and now you've steeped even further from outside those boundaries by making everything invisible.

Not only that, this also just adds to the already general ill feeling and distrust between certain members and groups here on this forum.

In light of all this, and due to the fact that you and Zax have totally abused and twisted what the ''Clarity Zone'' was intentionally set up for, would be to now make it open and available to all members.

I say we have a forum vote on it, and the vote is final and binding.

After all you only have yourselves to blame. You've taken this all way too far now.
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 16:54 #10

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May I interpose my veto?

Given that we can't know how many socks and friends will be activated,
but I expect a great many on this occasion, a poll will most problably not
render an actual and fair reflection of forum consensus.

As if democracy had ever worked with villains ....


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feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:00 #11

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I can't post on certain sections of TZ and that is not fair.
ALL sections should be open for ALL members to post on IMO.
If the mod for that section doesn't agree with a post they can move it.
BUT everybody should at least be free to actually post on every section.
I can't.
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:02 #12

Well there's a simple solution to that, Pfiz, only regular members get to vote. That is people who are already members from this date. Anybody who is suspected or caught of double voting will have ALL their votes cancelled. I will set a poll up nonetheless, not necessarily final and binding then, but just to gauge popular opinion.
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:08 #13

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Zorro wrote:
Well there's a simple solution to that, Pfiz, only regular members get to vote. Anybody who is suspected or caught of double voting will have ALL their votes cancelled. I will set a poll up nonetheless, not necessarily final and binding then, but just to gauge popular opinion.


How will you be able to prove multiple voting by socks ? ? ?


I will boycott this poll, for I don't want to participate in a sock-spectacle,
especially not when the subject - as in this case - is dead serious to me.

Maybe I will write an essay about revised and extended criminal code 130
in the meantime .... makes more sense. Jmho.


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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:09 #14

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This is getting all very sanctimonious!!!

:roll:
It was always going to happen!!
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:10 #15

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The forum should be open to all members with no secret areas.

Just make it so, no need for polls or votes.
It was always going to happen!!
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:19 #16

True wolfy, I absolutely agree there should be NO closed forums on Truth Zone, and especially not clandestine invisible one's. I have made a poll all the same though. Members will find it Here

I'll rephrase that to an unbinding Poll. :thumbup:
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:23 #17

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Where is this other zone?

What is the story behind it? I have been away for a while.
It was always going to happen!!
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:27 #18

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@ Zorro, let them have their secret forum . Know you could create something similar for your own peeps . Would love the have in depth discussions without the interference of the commie rats

It would be a nightmare for the jidif crew but a blessing for the true truth seekers
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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:36 #19

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Good idea, Grolongo, for I will never trust them again, for, even if
the CZ became publicly viewable only again, we can't know whether
actually all threads are open or there are still secret "Vaults" and "Dens"
and "Archives" ...

As Novum can view all of their secrets, he bears the full responsibility
for the protection of all members, whose comments are forged and
stored there by the hundreds.

I still see a problem in the deep crevice, caused
by zax and cf/bt et al. with the help of the admin.

Things will only become worse in this respect.



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Clarity Zone Now Stepping Waaay Outside Of It's Boundaries. 14 May 2016 17:41 #20

Grolongo wrote:
@ Zorro, let them have their secret forum . Know you could create something similar for your own peeps . Would love the have in depth discussions without the interference of the commie rats

It would be a nightmare for the jidif crew but a blessing for the true truth seekers

Hmm, under any normal circumstances I may well agree. But we're dealing with a number of people here who appear to have some form of excessive compulsive disorder to profile and demonize other members. And that makes some people feel uneasy knowing they're now doing it all in secret. This is not good for the forum, or any forum for that matter.
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