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What a load of fucking shit 12 Aug 2013 22:49 #1

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I didn't watch it, but The Fail is gushing over some new TV show where people are subjected to 1940s benefits, I guess to show the ungrateful plebs that back in the day when welfare was being invented on the back of mass social unrest, people had very small amounts of benefit.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389525/Channel-4-series-documents-extraordinary-experiment-PROVES-welfare-state-lost-way.html

I guess the message is the plebs should be gratefu ifl they're not left to starve by their billionaire overlords. It seems they've predictably picked some obnoxious claimant to prove people on benefits are pampered scum. And [*sob* some guy in a wheelchair who is pathetically grateful at being given a shit job - ooh look we've found a menial task for the cripple. Weren't the good old days fantastic?? As an aside it's kinda weird considering the Fail has oddly taken to running stories about people being declared fit for work by ATOS then dying, including one story they ran about some woman being declared fit for work as she lay dying is hospital (have to search for that one, don't have link handy).

Anyhoo - what a load of fucking shit. What is this supposed to prove? Why not run -

Today Kyle had to give up his X-Box and spend all day up a chimney, sweeping it clean. If he tries to come down. pins are stuck in his feet. Victorian Child proves that today's youth have it easy and should stop moaning about not having a job.

Today Carol won't be going to the call centre she's deemed 'soul destroying' - instead she'll operate a power loom for 14 hours a day before returning to a hovel, finding herself going progressively deaf from the noise. On day two her arm is ripped from its socket as the machinery malfunctions. Carol will be dismayed to discover she cannot claim some lucrative legal settlement and will instead be reduced to begging in the street. Perhaps now she'll be grateful for those lazy days spent selling double glazing

Today on 11th century medicine, Bob will have his stroke treated by a strict regime of bleeding and the burying of parsley at a crossroads. As he loses the use of his entire left side of his body as a the second stroke hits, maybe Bob will be less critical of the NHS being handed over to Virgin Healthcare and Serco

Today Ellen will be stretched on the rack before being burned at the stake as a witch. Maybe now she'll think twice before complaining about her right to protest being compromised.

Jesus fucking Christ. It's like a race to the fucking bottom. Tell the plebs some cunt back in the past had it worse, and they're flocking to lick the bosses arse crack in gratitude for whatever crumbs they'll throw from their golden table. Surely people can't be so fucking thick as to fall for this bullshit??
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What a load of fucking shit 12 Aug 2013 23:14 #2

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Ah, isn't the telly a wonderful invention.... for the propagandists! Masses of mindless viewers all seeing their Truth in one fell swoop.

On similar lines, Chuck - there is also now a weekly "comedy" show (although find a funny line in it anywhere, I defy you!) about the trials and tribulations of put-upon Jobcentre staff as they try to persuade the lazy Job Seekers back into work - including one woman who wanted to be a Zoologist.... until he turned vegetarian. Doesn't that just crack you up? :conf:



When the series is on, this shit goes out weekly to the mindless viewers, so they can ALL know how hard pressed (even if stupid) the Job Centre workers are; and exactly how shifty and slippery the "customers" are. It's everywhere. It doesn't even need to be covert anymore.
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if he undaunted be....". (Beowulf).

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What a load of fucking shit 12 Aug 2013 23:27 #3

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Ah, isn't the telly a wonderful invention.... for the propagandists! Masses of mindless viewers all seeing their Truth in one fell swoop.

On similar lines, Chuck - there is also now a weekly "comedy" show (although find a funny line in it anywhere, I defy you!) about the trials and tribulations of put-upon Jobcentre staff as they try to persuade the lazy Job Seekers back into work - including one woman who wanted to be a Zoologist.... until he turned vegetarian. Doesn't that just crack you up? :conf:



When the series is on, this shit goes out weekly to the mindless viewers, so they can ALL know how hard pressed (even if stupid) the Job Centre workers are; and exactly how shifty and slippery the "customers" are. It's everywhere. It doesn't even need to be covert anymore.

You have got to be joking.

I shall watch this tomorrow.

But I will say :facepalm: in anticipation.
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What a load of fucking shit 12 Aug 2013 23:30 #4

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:facepalm: indeed, Chuck. Except for those who love comedy and sit glued to the set.... :fresse:
"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
if he undaunted be....". (Beowulf).

"The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths... Beautiful people do not just happen". (Elisabeth Kubler-Ross).


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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 00:10 #5

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It's important to understand people who make alot of money and are in positions of power dont care about the underclass.

I watched a movie today which showed how alot of people at the top agree with the philosophy of Ayn Rand.

People on top just think that there are already billions of people in the 3rd world without the luxury of benefits.

If there is Anarchy in Uganda best believe there will be no sympathy for the underclass of the western world.

How can there be sympathy for the poor in a country without the heart and courage to be "Sceptre Free"

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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 03:19 #6

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Chuck Random wrote:
I didn't watch it, but The Fail is gushing over some new TV show where people are subjected to 1940s benefits, I guess to show the ungrateful plebs that back in the day when welfare was being invented on the back of mass social unrest, people had very small amounts of benefit.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389525/Channel-4-series-documents-extraordinary-experiment-PROVES-welfare-state-lost-way.html

I guess the message is the plebs should be gratefu ifl they're not left to starve by their billionaire overlords. It seems they've predictably picked some obnoxious claimant to prove people on benefits are pampered scum. And [*sob* some guy in a wheelchair who is pathetically grateful at being given a shit job - ooh look we've found a menial task for the cripple. Weren't the good old days fantastic?? As an aside it's kinda weird considering the Fail has oddly taken to running stories about people being declared fit for work by ATOS then dying, including one story they ran about some woman being declared fit for work as she lay dying is hospital (have to search for that one, don't have link handy).

Anyhoo - what a load of fucking shit. What is this supposed to prove? Why not run -

Today Kyle had to give up his X-Box and spend all day up a chimney, sweeping it clean. If he tries to come down. pins are stuck in his feet. Victorian Child proves that today's youth have it easy and should stop moaning about not having a job.

Today Carol won't be going to the call centre she's deemed 'soul destroying' - instead she'll operate a power loom for 14 hours a day before returning to a hovel, finding herself going progressively deaf from the noise. On day two her arm is ripped from its socket as the machinery malfunctions. Carol will be dismayed to discover she cannot claim some lucrative legal settlement and will instead be reduced to begging in the street. Perhaps now she'll be grateful for those lazy days spent selling double glazing

Today on 11th century medicine, Bob will have his stroke treated by a strict regime of bleeding and the burying of parsley at a crossroads. As he loses the use of his entire left side of his body as a the second stroke hits, maybe Bob will be less critical of the NHS being handed over to Virgin Healthcare and Serco

Today Ellen will be stretched on the rack before being burned at the stake as a witch. Maybe now she'll think twice before complaining about her right to protest being compromised.

Jesus fucking Christ. It's like a race to the fucking bottom. Tell the plebs some cunt back in the past had it worse, and they're flocking to lick the bosses arse crack in gratitude for whatever crumbs they'll throw from their golden table. Surely people can't be so fucking thick as to fall for this bullshit??

^ This gets the official 'TZ post of the week' award. :D

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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 04:59 #7

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On the subject of comedy: Has anyone else noticed that in the last twenty years, especially in British comedy (which I watch the most) there has been a fundamental change? Throughout history, in all the records we have the comic, the hero of the comedy we identify with is the little man, From the slave who is wiser than his master, the court jester or fool, that speaks wisdom, or Charley Chaplin the tramp, and this was the model until it started to change in the eighties. And if we think about a comedy about getting a job, Charley Drake in the sixties or Frank Spencer in the seventies, but now, Comics are the establishment laughing AT the weak the stupid, us.
For me this change depicts one of the most blatant examples of media propaganda being used.
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 09:26 #8

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Chuck Random wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ. It's like a race to the fucking bottom. Tell the plebs some cunt back in the past had it worse, and they're flocking to lick the bosses arse crack in gratitude for whatever crumbs they'll throw from their golden table. Surely people can't be so fucking thick as to fall for this bullshit??

:umm:

yes

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I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 14:15 #9

What the assholes do with sentences like this:
The level of welfare payments is now higher, in relation to earnings, than ever before. The average amount claimants receive has more than doubled in real terms over the past 50 years, according to recent statistics.
and this
Projected costs suggest benefits will cost taxpayers £348 billion this year. Left-wingers may call me callous, but I have often wondered what the result would be if the only benefits doled out today were the subsistence-level payments William Beveridge originally devised when he created the welfare state in the 1940s.
Is to trick people into thinking unemployed people, disabled people and housing benefit is costing £348 Billion per year, the arseholes who write these things are always reluctant to analyze that figure, it confirms their biases against unemployed, long term ill, and poor people so they just say "Benefits costs £348 Billion we need to cut that figure".

Half that amount goes to running the DWP, paying wages etc
then of the 50% of the benefits bill the lion's share goes to pensioners, you never hear the fail, torygraph or bourgeois moaning about those scrounging old farts who do nothing but drain the nhs and benefits system...

Perhaps increases in the longevity and average lifespan of western consumers, would account for the large increase in the benefits bill from the when William Beveridge made the plans.

Not very much at all goes to the Unemployed or long term sick together it's around £10Billion, compared to near £75Billion spent on state pensions, housing benefit is around £17Billion, state pensions and housing benefits imo are examples of where bourgeois interests benefit from the benefits system, HB effectively acts as a subsidy enabling families trapped into private renting contracts to pay extortionate rent rates, the Pensions system subsidizes employers ability to pay a lifetime employeee a meagre, subsistance wage, and the Bourgeois State sanctions this behaviour by "picking up the slack" through the NHS care homes and State Pension entitlement, working tax credits is another example of this whereby Benefits end up going straight into private profits of companies that cut costs by reducing employee wages and hours.
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 15:12 #10

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This lot who are 'running' the country now make Margaret Thatcher's government look generous and benign in comparison.

Its a fucking nightmare what is going on, and what they are blatantly getting away with doing. It sickens me.
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 15:19 #11

What Thatcher did to the miners Cameron and Duncan Smythe are doing to disabled people, long term sick and the unemployed, taking our livelihood away from us hahaha.
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 15:37 #12

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Creating a situation of mass unemployment and widespread poverty is a DELIBERATE POLICY of governments such as this one (or at least the policy of the real faceless powers that are pulling the strings behind the scenes).

They are liars...you cannot trust or believe a single word they say. They don't give a shit about us.

Democracy my arse.
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 15:53 #13

The people who the media convinced to vote Tory because of Labour debt fear mongering, are in all likelihood going to be voting UKIP in the next general election due to media fearmongering on immigration and the EU :D

Who here didn't spend some time in the last few years fearmongering about debt?

The tories are responding to people's genuine concerns (as any on of them will tell you) by attempting to cut the various costs of government, as we could have predicted they chose to keep their inflated salaries and bonus schemes, instead preferring to close down the crech, sack the janitor and remove the free tea and biscuits from the staff room ;)
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What a load of fucking shit 13 Aug 2013 16:04 #14

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I'd never vote tory, but hell....if UKIP can help get us out of the nightmare that is the EU, then they will get my cross on the ballot paper on polling day.

I don't care that UKIP are perhaps just a bunch of disenchanted tory party members or whatever...if voting for them helps get us out the EU, then I'll do it.

Its a means to an end, and at least a start.

Seriously, anyone who still thinks the UK is a three-party state needs their bumps feeling.
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