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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 12 Oct 2013 05:32 #1

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Updated 13:15 24 October 2011 by Andy Coghlan and Debora MacKenzie
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AS PROTESTS against financial power sweep the world this week, science may have confirmed the protesters' worst fears. An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of companies, mainly banks, with disproportionate power over the global economy.

The study's assumptions have attracted some criticism, but complex systems analysts contacted by New Scientist say it is a unique effort to untangle control in the global economy. Pushing the analysis further, they say, could help to identify ways of making global capitalism more stable.

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Just read the comments section - these chumps just don't get it or it's wilful ignorance! How much evidence do these loons need? Maybe they don't live in the same world as the ever growing number of people who are wise to this sh1t? :conf:

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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 12 Oct 2013 08:25 #2

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Just read the comments section - these chumps just don't get it or it's wilful ignorance! How much evidence do these loons need? Maybe they don't live in the same world as the ever growing number of people who are wise to this sh1t? :conf:

Many people just don't want to think about these things Frog......it invades their 'comfort zone' :roll:

I have found that fact out the hard way.
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 12 Oct 2013 09:02 #3

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Yep wilful ignorance seems to be the preferred coping method for most to ignore what's really going on around them. The TV and Mainstream media allows them to used the plausible denial card, as they willingly accept the lies as their get out clause. Soulless, weak individuals with no morals living in fear - just as the state ordered.

Well there is a definite shift and every step the state and corporations take seems to nudge a few more in the right direction. :)

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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 12 Oct 2013 10:18 #4

Very nice story, thanks for sharing Frog!
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder. "Our analysis is reality-based."
Yaneer Bar-Yam, head of the New England Complex Systems Institute (NECSI), warns that the analysis assumes ownership equates to control, which is not always true. Most company shares are held by fund managers who may or may not control what the companies they part-own actually do. The impact of this on the system's behaviour, he says, requires more analysis.
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 08 Dec 2013 21:06 #5

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Irresponsible/ignorant or negative capitalism or antisocialism

Taking more power than you give from all and everything...What animals do.

The path of least effort to the logical conclusion

Which is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain existence

When the trees run out...you collapse and die...Finite

Responsible/knowledgeable or positive capitalism or socialism

Sharing power equally with all and everything...What Human beings do.

The path of most effort to the logical conclusion.

Which is the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to sustain existence.

The trees do not run out so you live forever...Infinite

While you all claim to be Human beings...You follow the path of least effort to the logical conclusion...Like Animals.

Then say...Oh well that is Human nature...and positively reinforce the lie you believe is Truth.

All and everything in the Universe capitalizes on Truth to sustain the existence of all and everything in the Universe.

There is no such thing as non capitalism.

Anyone that claims there is such a thing as non capitalism...Is ignorant or a liar.
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 09 Dec 2013 00:36 #6

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Irresponsible/ignorant or negative capitalism or antisocialism

Taking more power than you give from all and everything...What animals do.

The path of least effort to the logical conclusion

Which is the same as chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain existence

When the trees run out...you collapse and die...Finite

Responsible/knowledgeable or positive capitalism or socialism

Sharing power equally with all and everything...What Human beings do.

The path of most effort to the logical conclusion.

Which is the same as chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to sustain existence.

The trees do not run out so you live forever...Infinite

While you all claim to be Human beings...You follow the path of least effort to the logical conclusion...Like Animals.

Then say...Oh well that is Human nature...and positively reinforce the lie you believe is Truth.

All and everything is the Universe capitalizes on Truth to sustain the existence of all and everything in the Universe.

There is no such thing as non capitalism.

Anyone that claims there is such a thing as non capitalism...Is ignorant or a liar.

intriguing....please elaborate on the bold part's...
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 09 Dec 2013 04:39 #7

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A Human being is an ideal to be realized.

Not a realized ideal at the moment of conception or birth or what you see when you look in a mirror.

Your body is composed of Animal cells...There is no such thing as Human being cells.

All the cells in your body take more power than they give to sustain existence.

The path of least effort is the default or mindless path that all and everything follows.

Split 100 in 3 perfectly...you get 3 x 33.33333333333

It is easier to split it into 34, 33 ,33

It is easy to take more than you give...It is hard to share equally.

Taking more power than you give is the direct current principle.

Think of feeding a fire by chopping down trees faster than they regrow...The fire will grow bigger and bigger until the trees begin running out and then the fire will grow smaller and smaller and then when the trees run out completely...the fire goes out or reaches 0

It's how a battery works

Sharing power equally is the alternating current principle

Feeding a fire by chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow will have the fire grow to maximum potential and then stop growing but never run out of trees and never reach 0 and always be 1.

Take a byte of the forbidden fruit of logic and gain awareness of 1 and 0

Animals employ irresponsible self indulgent reason...To solve the problem of existence for as long as possible

Human beings employ responsible altruistic logic...To solve the problem of existence for as long as possible.

Of course you can not chop down one tree as fast as or slower than it regrows to sustain existence.

But at some point you have to stop taking more than you give or chopping down trees faster than they regrow and switch to sharing power equally or chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow or you will annihilate yourself.

Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Irresponsible/ignorant or negative capitalism or antisocialism

Absolute capitalism...taking more power than you give until you run out and die...Finite or 0

Responsible/knowledgeable capitalism...sharing power equally which never runs out and you live...Infinite or 1

Truth is infinite and indestructible...It is the supply of power.

Lies are finite and fragile...They are the demand for power.

1 is the supply and zero is the demand.

Truth or singularity is the supply of power to the birth and death or duality of lies.

Truth is the supply of power to lies which are the demand for power.

The probability that a Lie can defeat Truth = 0 or absolutely No = Negative

The probability that Truth can defeat a Lie = 100% or absolutely Yes = Positive
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 09 Dec 2013 09:12 #8

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I think I am in agreement with you, but I want to check the meanings of a few words, when you are talking about capitalism, do you mean the word to be used very generally, and not a particular economic system, as such would I be right in thinking you mean 'economics' rather than capitalism, which to me and many others is a particular economic strategy.
So could I take your statement to mean-
That there is an economic basis which cannot be over looked?
As such we can then move forward together, because I am very much in agreement the systems that govern people now are short term, looking for instant profit, and not taking into account long term developments, however it is fully possible to create a structure which rewards sustainability, and facilitates growth at the same time. The problem is that so many people are trapped thinking the system they are in is the only possible system, so they do not realise we are very capable of creating our own economic structures.
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 10 Dec 2013 01:02 #9

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The Universe is absolute capitalistic.

the path of least effort is absolute capitalistic...Water flowing from the mountains to the seas...rocks rolling down hills...lighting bolts...People...monkeys...bacteria...All life and everything follow the default/irresponsible ignorant mindless path to sustain existence...Taking more power than is given from all an everything

Like chopping down trees faster than they regrow to sustain existence.

Human beings follow the path of most effort...Responsible or knowledgeable capitalistic...sharing power with all and everything equally.

Like chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to sustain existence.

It is what separates Animals from Human beings.

it is a state of mind.

People currently follow the path of least effort but claim to be Human beings that are following the path of most effort.

But when people act like animals...people say...Oh well...its just Human nature...but it is animals nature and the yare just positively reinforcing the lie they believe is Truth.

A human being is an ideal to strive to attain...You are not a realized ideal from birth and a realized ideal is not what you see when you are looking into a mirror.

your body is composed of animal cells...there is no such thing as human being cells and all the cells are absolute capitalistic...it's why you have to constantly supply their demands or your body dies.

Civilization is more like domestication.
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 10 Dec 2013 01:54 #10

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"When a student exposes the social engineers to Truth behind their lies they inculcate to the indifferent. The social engineers inform the student that their job or function as student (employee) is to be engineered by the engineers (employer) or they will be escorted out of the social engineering institution and force will be increased in proportion to the resistance until the student performs their job or function as they are demanded to according to the accepted rules of the game (system) of absolute capitalism."

"Education: the inculcation of the incomprehensible into the indifferent by the incompetent."--John Maynard Keynes

"The subjects of every state (Bottom) ought to contribute towards the support of the government (TOP), as nearly as possible in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state."--Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations 1776

"Governments of the absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise are administration systems of the enterprise constructed and sustained by the bottom or employees at the demand of the top or owners of the absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise"

“The study of money (Power), above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it.”--John Kenneth Galbraith Money: Whence it came, where it went - 1975, p15

"All the perplexities, confusions and distresses in America arise not from defects in the constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, as much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation." (Absolute capitalist economics)--PRESIDENT JOHN ADAMS

"Simplicity adds up to the multiplication of complexity into perplexity which is divided and subtracted unequally to obtain the required yield of power the absolute capitalists want to manipulate the Universe how they desire."

"Economics (absolute capitalistic and responsible capitalistic) is not an invention it is a discovery."

"Economics is the study of all and everything"

"Economics is extremely useful as a form of employment for economists."--John Kenneth Galbraith

"All and everything in the Universe capitalizes on Truth to sustain the existence of all and everything in the Universe"

"Capitalism does not have anything to do with money...Unless you have money...then it does."
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Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world [New Scientist article] 10 Dec 2013 17:36 #11

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Might as well put this in here

Worthless info

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