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TOPIC: Who owns Britain’s land?

Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 10:23 #1

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Information on land ownership in Britain is not easy to come by. Kevin Cahill discovered this when researching for his book, Who Owns Britain (Canongate, 2001), from which much of the information contained here is drawn. Thus, the Land Registry, in existence since 1925, has managed to register not much more than half – and what’s missing is the land owned by the rich.
However, during the course of piecing together information from press cuttings, and records of wills and estates, Cahill heard about a ‘second Domesday Book’, a report submitted to Parliament in 1876. He asked the Royal Agricultural Society if they had a copy. They assured him that there was no such thing. In fact, as Cahill discovered later, the Society possessed several copies in its library. The Country Landowners Association at least admitted to having a copy but refused to let Cahill see it. Eventually he was able to obtain a copy of extracts from Ealing library, and later a view of the whole thing in the Devon and Exeter Institute.
The report, entitled The Return of Owners of Land, contains the names, addresses, acreages and valuations for all landowners of over one acre. As Cahill put it, ‘the UK’s large landowners had been appalled by its appearance and moved, with their academic friends, to bury it. In this endeavour they were eminently successful, with nothing of significance written about it in 126 years…. It had, in effect, vanished’. Having rediscovered it, Cahill was able to trace most of the missing estates, and in many cases discover their current owners.
He found that just 189,000 families own two-thirds of the UK’s 60 million acres, of which nearly three-quarters is owned by the top 40,000. The biggest individual landowner turned out to be the Duke of Buccleuch with 277,000 acres, and the wealthiest was the Duke of Westminster with 140,000 acres, including 100 acres in London’s Mayfair – which alone, in 2001, was valued at £3.35 billion – as well as 200 acres in Belgravia, its even more expensive neighbour. Land owned and controlled by Britain’s Royal Family, comprising the Crown Estates, the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster, and private land, amounted to some 677,000 acres. Meanwhile, Britain’s 16.8 million homeowners accounted for barely 4 per cent of the land, about the same as that owned by the Forestry Commission, the top institutional landowner. But Cahill still could not account for some 5.6 million acres, or nearly 10 per cent of Britain’s land area.
Most of the big private estates can be traced to appropriations and handouts from the reigning monarch in bygone days, and more recently through purchases by those who had made money through large-scale theft in other ways. The ‘first great land grab’ came with the Norman Conquest when William donated the lands acquired to himself and his brigands. The second came when Henry VIII dissolved the monasteries, and distributed their 10 million acres to those followers and barons willing to accept the new Church, now free from domination by Rome, and impose it in their local areas. Thirdly, some major redistributions and awards of land according to political allegiances took place during Cromwell’s rule and following the Restoration, which more or less settled the broad nature and ownership of Britain’s land through to the present time. www.labourland.org/downloads/papers/WhoOwnsPaper.pdf

That's that then, and why there is no point voting, everything remains the same. :yerright:
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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 11:56 #2

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My feeling is that there is a much more recent land grab scenario which slipped by unnoticed and revolves around the shift away from Great Britain which morphed into the UK combined with the advent of post codes or coded land lots? It's something I have been wondering about and an area that could make for some interesting revelations imho.

There have been a few articles on the subject of land ownership here's one Britain's land is still owned by an aristocratic elite - but it doesn't have to be this way.

There was also a report which from memory was created by the Labour party or one of the trade union organisations which investigated the state of land ownership in Britain. I can't remember the details right now but I may have some links somewhere which I will try and dig out.

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I forgot to say that in reality there is only one recognised OWNER of the land mass known as the British Isles and that is the CROWN. The Crown is the single biggest land owner on the planet bar none! Ask a Canadian, Australian or New Zealanders who owns the land?

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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 13:14 #3

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And it's a well know fact that the british queen and her whole bloodline...is jewish.

Oh wait...hang on a mo....

There goes another spanner in the works of the wannabe Nazi 'mind' set...
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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 13:29 #4

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Frog wrote:
I forgot to say that in reality there is only one recognised OWNER of the land mass known as the British Isles and that is the CROWN. The Crown is the single biggest land owner on the planet bar none! Ask a Canadian, Australian or New Zealanders who owns the land?

Aside from CROWN land holdings, Australians dont 'own' any land anyway apparently, even land they think they own...apparently its leased off THE CROWN.

This is probably why corporations can just move into ones property and set up fracking operations and so on.


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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 13:42 #5

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Who owns THE CROWN? :hahano:
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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 14:01 #6

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novum wrote:
Who owns THE CROWN? :hahano:

Interesting question and not one that's easily answered. It would seem to be the same little group that held shares in the East India Company and other private interest groups such as the Bankers.

Here are some more links the contents of which you may ponder over:

Who Owns the World?
I don't think that the article is correct with respect to the Queen but hey we know who the media is batting for right?

The Queen fronts the Rothschild's ("Crown")
The use of the word Crown is a deception much like the Federal is used for the Federal Reserve. Assumptions being what they are the use of such devices help mask the truth behind these public deceptions.

The "Crown" and the "Crown Estate" are tow entirely different entities another example would be the "City of London Corporation" which is not what the public perceive it to be.

The House of Rothschild's

House of Windsor


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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 14:12 #7

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novum wrote:
Frog wrote:
I forgot to say that in reality there is only one recognised OWNER of the land mass known as the British Isles and that is the CROWN. The Crown is the single biggest land owner on the planet bar none! Ask a Canadian, Australian or New Zealanders who owns the land?

Aside from CROWN land holdings, Australians dont 'own' any land anyway apparently, even land they think they own...apparently its leased off THE CROWN.

This is probably why corporations can just move into ones property and set up fracking operations and so on.


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Actually Novum South Australia led the Anglo world with the Torrens Title property registration system.

Crown land in urban areas was subdivided and sold off as freehold land. The purchaser was then the registered owner of their own separately identified piece of land.

Torrens from SA developed the system in Victorian times and it us now used across Australia, England and Im presuming North America.

In Australia and England a landowner only owns the land down to 6 feet. Anything below that is owned by the State and can be developed for mining purposes.

In the US the landowner owns what lies beneath. Hence fracking is easier and Jed Clampett found "Texan Gold".

In Australia the vast majority of land is undeveloped and called Crown land and figuratively still vested in Lizzy and Phil.

Canada is EXACTLY the same in that regard.
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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 14:23 #8

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Orangeaid wrote:
In Australia and England a landowner only owns the land down to 6 feet. Anything below that is owned by the State and can be developed for mining purposes.

In the US the landowner owns what lies beneath. Hence fracking is easier and Jed Clampett found "Texan Gold".

Is why OZ never had the cartoons like the US where the characters shout 'im rich' when theres oil under properties. :chuckle:

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In Australia the vast majority of land is undeveloped and called Crown land and figuratively still vested in Lizzy and Phil.

Yep lots of crown land. :hahano:
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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 15:47 #9

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Real Property Law and Procedure in the European Union (Final Version) PDF Document

INSPIRE is a European Union (EU) Directive that aims to simplify the way public bodies across Europe share spatial data.

EuroGeographics CADASTRE Land Registry

LAND REGISTRY PRIVATISATION PLAN REVEALED

^^ Is anyone picking up the stench of Agenda 21 from any of that?


A Short History of Enclosure in Britain
A Short History of Enclosure in Britain

Simon Fairlie describes how the progressive enclosure of commons over several centuries has deprived most of the British people of access to agricultural land. The historical process bears little relationship to the “Tragedy of the Commons”, the theory which ideologues in the neoliberal era adopted as part of a smear campaign against common property institutions.


Over the course of a few hundred years, much of Britain's land has been privatized — that is to say taken out of some form of collective ownership and management and handed over to individuals. Currently, in our "property-owning democracy", nearly half the country is owned by 40,000 land millionaires, or 0.06 per cent of the population,1 while most of the rest of us spend half our working lives paying off the debt on a patch of land barely large enough to accommodate a dwelling and a washing line.

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Back to the plot:

Who Does Own Britain Today?
Land ownership in the 1970's
Labour Research, Vol. 68, Number 4 April 1979
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In this article the trade union supported Labour Research Department provides a brief
overview of the state of land ownership in Britain in the late 1970s. It reveals that
over half of Britain is owned by three distinct types of owners: the public sector – 19
percent; establishment institution – 2 percent; and aristocratic estates – 32 percent.


Contents:
Who does own Britain today?
Public Ownership
The Establishment
The Aristocracy
Further Information

Who does own Britain today?
Last month, two aristocratic landowners, the Dukes of Westminster and Argyll,
featured prominently in the press. The trustees of the Duke of Argyll’s estate, which
consists of approximately 73,400 acres in Scotland, announced they would sell 5,000
acres, including the island of Iona, to meet death duties. The day before, the death of
the Duke of Westminster had focused attention on the Grosvenor Estate, reported to
be worth over £2-billion pounds. The new Duke; “whose two O-levels”, according to
the Daily Telegraph, “have not apparently prevented him from mastering the
intricacies of running one of the biggest property empires in the world”, now not only
controls 300 acres of extremely valuable property in London’s Mayfair and Belgravia,
but also owns large agricultural estates in Shropshire and Cheshire.

Who does own Britain today? What is the extent of aristocratic landownership? The
facts about landownership are difficult to establish, because although government
does collect information it is not available to the public. In fact, the last census took
place in 1873. Although the purpose of this New Doomsday survey was to show that
landownership was becoming more widely spread, it established that 7,000 people,
most of them titled, owned 80 percent of the country. Since then landownership has
become less concentrated; it has been estimated that between 1918 and 1927, six to
eight million acres, including at least 25 percent of Britain’s farmland changed hands.

Both home ownership and farm ownership have increased. In 1908 only 12 percent of
agricultural land was worked by owners; the bulk of it, 88 percent, was farmed on a
tenancy basis. By 1972 the owner-occupied share of farmland had risen to 56 percent,
and at least 50 percent of all housing is now owner-occupied. However, in spite of the
increasing spread of property ownership, it should be noted that the amounts of land

an alternative vision for land registry PDF
See Page 43-46
* A real land registry for the new community of citizens of the United Kingdom

The purpose of the Land Registry is to record who owns land in the United
Kingdom. That at least is what the public think. As professionals in the business
and the staff of the Land Registry know this is a fundamental error. The Land
Registry as currently structured, does not record ownership on land in the
UK. In the words of the explanatory notes to the Land Registration Act 2002
on the parliamentary web site “ there is only one owner of land in the UK,
the Crown.” And the explanation then goes on to say that what citizens have
in the UK is two forms of tenure, leasehold and freehold, both derived from
medieval land law. Freehold in particular is defined as “an interest in an estate
in land…”. but not the land itself.

When confronted with these facts the majority of freeholders, who are the
majority of land holders in the country, are outraged and rightly so. And when
we say the ‘majority’ what we mean is over 70% of the population itself, who
have a stake in land through freehold tenure based on a private dwelling. There
are over 18 million freeholds in the UK.

The outrage of the freeholders is at two wholly justifiable levels. The first
is aimed at the fact itself, that what they thought was ownership, is not
ownership at all. That there is a secret or concealed owner lurking behind
their homes and that ‘legal’ owner is relying on feudal law to deprive the
freeholders of true ownership. The second element of the outrage is at the
public deception involved in the general presentation of what the Land
Registry is, mostly by the government but aided and abetted by the Land
Registry itself, which almost never makes clear the underlying facts, but
avoids them.

Were the generality of land holders aware of the historic deceit that gave rise
to the absurd situation we have in relation to the Land Registry, they would
be even more outraged. That historic deceit lies in the restoration of the
Crown’s discredited feudal claim to all land in the 1925 Land registration and
Law of Property Act. Parliament, when it named what became the second or
true Domesday of the United Kingdom in 1872 as the “Return of Owners of
Land” believed and implied that the Crown’s claim to the ownership of all
land in the United Kingdom was extinct. Attempts to set up a general Land
Registry following the publication of the Returns, failed until the 1925 Land
Registration Act and the Law of Property Act reduced all forms of tenure to
just two, leasehold and freehold, and restored the Crown’s claim, setting it in
statutory law where it had never previously been framed. There is no available
record which shows that the 1925 acts and the four other associated acts
were debated in either House. It appears to have been passed through ‘on the
nod’. And on the nod the freeholders of the UK were once more reduced to
feudal serfs in relation to their most important asset, their home.

Continued on page 44 - 45 with Further reading notes on page 46
Author: Kevin Cahill

* What is the meaning of that headline? "new community of citizens of the United Kingdom" WTF did anyone get that memo?

@Orangeaid,

The system may appear to be different on the surface, but wherever the British con artists have staked a claim they tend to apply the same tricks and scams, that have served them so well in the British Isles. The Crown thinks it owns the land whether you think freehold means you do is irrelevant to them. ;)

If you actually owned the land you would hold Allodial title to it.
Allodium, ( allōt: “full property”) land freely held, without obligation of service to any overlord. Allodial land tenure was of particular significance in western Europe during the Middle Ages, when most land was held by feudal tenure.

Source: britannica.com
Copyhold, in English law, a form of landholding defined as a “holding at the will of the lord according to the custom of the manor.” Its origin is found in the occupation by villeins, or nonfreemen, of portions of land belonging to the manor of the feudal lord.

A portion of the manor reserved for the lord was cultivated by labourers who were bound to the land; their service was obligatory, and they could not leave the manor. They were allowed, however, to cultivate land for their own use. This copyhold was mere occupation at the pleasure of the lord, but in time it grew into an occupation by right, called villenagium, that was recognized first by custom and later by law. The records of the court baron constituted the title of the villein tenant to the land held by copy of the court roll (hence the term copyhold); and the customs of the manor recorded therein formed the real property law applicable to his case. In 1926 all copyhold land became freehold land, though the lords of manors retained mineral and sporting rights.

Source: britannica.com
Freehold, in English law, ownership of a substantial interest in land held for an indefinite period of time. The term originally designated the owner of an estate held in free tenure, who possessed, under Magna Carta, the rights of a free man. A freehold estate was distinguished from nonfreehold estates such as copyhold, tenancy at will, and tenancy for a fixed period, the customary landlord–tenant relationship. Knight service and frankalmoign, which required military and ceremonial services respectively, and free socage, which involved certain services of husbandry or manual labour, were types of free tenure. See also copyhold; socage.

Source: britannica.com

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Who owns Britain’s land? 09 Jun 2014 15:57 #10

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Thanks for the overview. Here is an overview of Torrens Title. It is a simpler system than in England and fairer to the owner.

The State though can resume land for a government purpose eg. a motorway, hospital or school but they must pay market value as compensation.

The property system though at its core is designed to give certainty to those who own but also those who can register interests on the land. Eg banks as mortgagees.

It is very much a debt funded asset purchasing system.
Torrens title

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Torrens title is a system of land title where a register of land holdings maintained by the state guarantees an indefeasible title to those included in the register. Land ownership is transferred through registration of title instead of using deeds. Its main purpose is to simplify land transactions and to certify to the ownership of an absolute title to realty. It has become pervasive around the countries strongly influenced by Britain, especially those in the Commonwealth of Nations and has spread to most countries.

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The Torrens title system operates on the principle of "title by registration" (i.e. the indefeasibility of a registered interest) rather than "registration of title." The system does away with the need for a chain of title (i.e. tracing title through a series of documents). The State guarantees title and is usually supported by a compensation scheme for those who lose their title due to the State's operation.[citation needed]

In most jurisdictions, there will be parcels of land which are still unregistered.[1]

The Torrens system works on three principles:[2]

Mirror principle – the register (Certificate of Title) reflects (mirrors) accurately and completely the current facts about a person's title. This means that, if a person sells an estate, the new title has to be identical to the old one in terms of description of lands, except for the owner's name.Curtain principle – one does not need to go behind the Certificate of Title as it contains all the information about the title. This means that ownership need not be proved by long complicated documents that are kept by the owner, as in the Private Conveyancing system. All of the necessary information regarding ownership is on the Certificate of Title.Indemnity principle – provides for compensation of loss if there are errors made by the Registrar of Titles.

BackgroundEdit

Common law

At common law, land owners needed to prove their ownership of a particular piece of land back to the earliest grant of land by the Crown to its first owner. The documents relating to transactions with the land were collectively known as the "title deeds" or the "chain of title". This event could have occurred hundreds of years prior and could have been intervened by dozens of changes in the land's ownership. A person's ownership over land could also be challenged, potentially causing great legal expense to land owners and hindering development.

Even an exhaustive title search of the chain of title would not give the purchaser complete security, largely because of the principle,nemo dat quod non habet ("no one gives what he does not have") and the ever-present possibility of undetected outstanding interests. For example, in Pilcher v Rawlins(1872), the vendor conveyed the fee-simpleestate to P1, but retained the title deeds and fraudulently purported to convey the fee-simple estate to P2. The latter could receive only the title retained by the vendor—in short, nothing. However, the case was ultimately decided in favor of P2, over P1. The courts of equity could not bring themselves to decide against a totally innocent (without notice) purchaser.[3]

The common-law position has been changed in minor respects by legislation designed to minimize the searches that should be undertaken by a prospective purchaser. In some jurisdictions, a limitation has been placed on the period of commencement of title a purchaser may require.

Deeds registration

The effect of registration under the deeds registration system was to give the instrument registered "priority" over all instruments that are either unregistered or not registered until later. The basic difference between the deeds registration and Torrens systems is that the former involves registration of instruments while the latter involves registration of title.

Moreover, though a register of who owned what land was maintained, it was unreliable and could be challenged in the courts at any time. The limits of the deeds-registration system meant that transfers of land were slow, expensive, and often unable to create certain title.
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@Orangeaid,

I'm not entirely sure I get your point with regards to who owns the land mass. The system is not really any different to that of the British Isles excluding Scotland. It's a paper exercise for the most part and the traditional form of Deeds seems to have been exchanged to reflect the registration process set out in the information you have posted. The Land Registry seems to regard the digital register as evidence of ownership these days as I understand it. Which could be interesting if someone holds the original title deeds to a property a bank has loaned money on to a third party, which is digitally registered on the Land Registry to the current mortgagee?

Under English Law compulsory purchase orders are used by the State to regain ownership of Freehold property and they are supposed to pay the market value. The reality is they rarely pay true market value for one reason or another. Such as property that may potentially fall under some government scheme tends to loses value which then forms the new reduced market value. Which results in a loss in real terms for the freeholder. Compulsory Purchase Act 2004

To my knowledge the Land Registry isn't liable for compensation which may arise as a result of their record keeping. Which is the only significant difference I can see. In England indemnity insurance often forms part of the conveyance costs to offer some form of protection against claims against the title etc.

The common denominator is the crooks who administered and created the legal frameworks these schemes of public deception function under.

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The Torrens system has as its core the concept of indefeasible title. If a purchaser pays cash they get a paper deed of title and no "encumbrance" will be registered on it. The concept is explained below.

Right or title in property that cannot be annulled, defeated, or made void by any past event, orerror or omission in the title. For example, thetitle document issued under the Australian landtitle system (Torrens System) is indefeasible because it is certified by the government as not encumbered by any claim or interest other than those listed in the document.

Frog, bear in mind early Australia was settled by convicts in part, British military and largely by free settlers wanting to escape England and have a better life. South Australia prides itself on being settled without any form of penal colony and by free settlers only.

Such settlers could create different and better systems than what existed in England.

The Torrens system was extended to apartments in the 1970s through Strata Title. When I lived in England 10 years ago that hadn't even been established. England is still grappling with unwinding the feudal system which it has never conclusively done. Leasehold and freehold still existed and the system was nowhere near as neat as the Australian system.

However in Australia government can still resume land for a public purpose. That then begs the question of paying market value. Having said all that all undeveloped land is called Crown Land and with the nation being a constitutional monarchy and Lizzy being Head of State all such land is figuratively vested in her via her "government" she is the figurative head of.
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Great thread with interesting information!
Need to reread in detail occasionally.

I just want to add that WE - THE PEOPLE - most often forget that WE own the earth!
Conquests and money created from nothing but from our labour force can't buy them our land.
It's just impossible. And who made those "laws" that allowed the pseudo elite to "own" what is ours!

ILLEGAL! Everything, ever done without the consent of US - THE PEOPLE - or even with the help of bought brutish force is INVALID!
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We don't own the earth you dafty :D

we are only here for a few decades...the earth has been here for a fair old while and will be when we have evolved past chattin the kind of shit that gets posted here too.


Another insight into your mind though so well done. This is the mind that underpins everything you type. A completely illogical, self centred mind. Delusional and not fit for purpose.


Report to a correctional facility at once ya daft wannabe Nazi. :rofl:
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Largest Landowner

“Queen Elizabeth II the largest landowner on Earth.”

Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of the United Kingdom and of 31 other states and territories, is the legal owner of about 6,600 million acres of land, one sixth of the earth’s non ocean surface.

She is the only person on earth who owns whole countries, and who owns countries that are not her own domestic territory. This land ownership is separate from her role as head of state and is different from other monarchies where no such claim is made – Norway, Belgium, Denmark etc.

The value of her land holding. £17,600,000,000,000 (approx).

This makes her the richest individual on earth. However, there is no way easily to value her real estate. There is no current market in the land of entire countries. At a rough estimate of $5,000 an acre, and based on the sale of Alaska to the USA by the Tsar, and of Louisiana to the USA by France, the Queen’s land holding is worth a notional $33,000,000,000,000 (Thirty three trillion dollars or about £17,600,000,000,000). Her holding is based on the laws of the countries she owns and her land title is valid in all the countries she owns. Her main holdings are Canada, the 2nd largest country on earth, with 2,467 million acres, Australia, the 7th largest country on earth with 1,900 million acres, the Papua New Guinea with114 million acres, New Zealand with 66 million acres and the UK with 60 million acres.

She is the world’s largest landowner by a significant margin. The next largest landowner is the Russian state, with an overall ownership of 4,219 million acres, and a direct ownership comparable with the Queen’s land holding of 2,447 million acres. The 3rd largest landowner is the Chinese state, which claims all of Chinese land, about 2,365 million acres. The 4th largest landowner on earth is the Federal Government of the United States, which owns about one third of the land of the USA, 760 million acres. The fifth largest landowner on earth is the King of Saudi Arabia with 553 million acres

Largest five personal landowners on Earh
Queen Elizabeth II ................. 6,600 million acres
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia .... 553 million acres
King Bhumibol of Thailand ........ 126 million acres
King Mohammed IV of Morocco ... 113 million acres
Sultan Quaboos of Oman .......... 76 million acres

www.whoownstheworld.com/about-the-book/largest-landowner/?ref=patrick.net


Of course, queeny works for the crown, so ...
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Who owns Britain’s land? 10 Jun 2014 09:55 #16

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... I just want to add that WE - THE PEOPLE - most often forget that WE own the earth! ...

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Please provide verifiable evidence for your claim.
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And i must mention again that within queenies holdings are 13 of the 20 odd tax havens.
Which are crucial in the system of worldwide control.
Which i very much doubt anyone here is either a resident of...or has an account in.

If you lot's barking up the wrong trees weren't so dangerous it would be genuinely guffaw worthy.
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As the head of the Church of England, which split from the Catholic Church in the 16th century, Queen Elizabeth is also a religious leader.

m.smh.com.au/world/pope-queen-elizabeth-meet-trade-gifts-20140404-zqqj0.html


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From Israel to Nick Clegg (shocking and worrying)...







Is Britain still a sovereign country?


Of course NOT - and never was since ages !!!

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Who owns Britain’s land and slaves? 16 Jan 2015 18:13 #20

World-Service - How Jewry turned England into a plutocratic state An historical survey: www.lyndonlarouche.org/larouche-british-code.PDF
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