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TOPIC: Who owns Britain’s land?

Who owns Britain’s land? 23 May 2015 22:26 #41

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We apparently have been lied to and now I am more confused than ever, as I have previously believed the "lie" or is it true.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-rothschild-libel-why-has-it-taken-200-years-for-an-antisemitic-slur-that-emerged-from-the-battle-of-waterl...missed-10216101.html

Only part of the article is here due to length - link for full. (rather pissed off atm as debunking this latest apology is beyond me so i hope someone else will try).
The Rothschild Libel: Why has it taken 200 years for an anti-Semitic slur that emerged from the Battle of Waterloo to be dismissed?
in the summer of 1846, a political pamphlet bearing the ominous signature "Satan" swept across Europe, telling a story which, though lurid and improbable, left a mark that can be seen to this day.

The pamphlet claimed to recount the history of the richest and most famous banking family of the time – the Rothschilds – and its most enduring passage told how their vast fortune was built upon the bloodshed of the battle of Waterloo, whose bicentenary falls this year.

Here is the story that "Satan" told.

Nathan Rothschild, the founder of the London branch of the bank, was a spectator on the battlefield that day in June 1815 and, as night fell, he observed the total defeat of the French army. This was what he was waiting for. A relay of fast horses rushed him to the Belgian coast, but there he found to his fury that a storm had confined all ships to port. Undaunted – "Does greed admit anything is impossible?" asked Satan – he paid a king's ransom to a fisherman to ferry him through wind and waves to England.

Reaching London 24 hours before official word of Wellington's victory, Rothschild exploited his knowledge to make a killing on the Stock Exchange. "In a single coup," announced the pamphlet, "he gained 20 million francs."

Beyond all doubt this tale was anti-Semitic in intent. Satan was in reality a left-wing controversialist called Georges Dairnvaell, who made no attempt to hide his loathing for Jews –and the Rothschilds in particular. Though they had been little known in 1815, by 1846 the Rothschilds had become the Rockefellers or the Gateses of their age, their name a byword for fabulous wealth. Nathan himself had died in 1836 and so could not rebut the claims.


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Who owns Britain’s land? 18 Aug 2015 19:49 #42

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30,000 sign online petition to arrest Netanyahu in UK next month



Israel dismisses petition as a PR stint; Britain changed its law in 2011 to thwart previous bids to have Israeli leaders held for war crimes







Some 30,000 people have signed a petition on the website of the British Parliament calling on the government to arrest Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for war crimes. Netanyahu is due in London on a state visit next month. Israel rejected the petition as meaningless.

Blaming Netanyahu for the deaths of Palestinians during the war in the Gaza Strip last year, the text of the petition reads, “Benjamin Netanyahu is to hold talks in London this September. Under international law he should be arrested for war crimes upon arrival in the U.K for the massacre of over 2000 civilians in 2014.”

According to the website, the government will be forced respond to the petition, since it passed a 10,000 signature threshold. If it passes 100,000 signatures, Parliament could be required to debate the issue.

During the war in Gaza, more than 2,000 Palestinian were killed in the Gaza Strip, most of them civilians, according to Hamas and UN figures. Israel says almost 1,000 of the fatalities were combatants, and blames Hamas for all civilian deaths, since it fought from within residential areas.

The Foreign Ministry said in a statement that the petition was “a PR exercise with no real meaning. Bilateral ties between Britain and Israel are closer than ever before, as evidenced by data on mutual trade, doubled in recent years, and by cooperation in academic studies, culture and science between the two countries.”

The ministry said that “any person can initiate such a petition on the website of the British Parliament,” adding that “currently, there are running petition on legalizing drugs [with 200,000 signatures] and regulating the price of milk [40,000].”

UK lawyers representing pro-Palestinian groups have repeatedly taken advantage of legal loopholes and sought to have Israeli officials visiting the country arrested for alleged breaches of international law under terms of universal jurisdiction.

But in 2011, Britain changed the law to make it more difficult to obtain arrest warrants against Israeli figures by requiring the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions. The amended law helps those visiting Britain in an official capacity. Those making trips of a personal nature are left vulnerable.

A favorite target before the law was amended was former justice minister and head of the Hatnua party Tzipi Livni, who several times avoided efforts by activists to have her arrested while on trips to the UK.

In late June, former defense minister and chief of staff Shaul Mofaz was nearly arrested when he visited London. At the time, Mofaz was greeted at the airport by two Israeli diplomats. His arrest was avoided after swift action by the Israeli Embassy in London and the British Embassy in Israel.

Netanyahu is to meet with his British counterpart, David Cameron, considered one of Israel’s staunchest allies in Europe. Among other issues, Netanyahu is planning to present the grounds for his objections to the nuclear deal with Iran.


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Who owns Britain’s land? 18 Aug 2015 20:32 #43

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Latest : petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446
Petition Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes when he arrives in London

Benjamin Netanyahu is to hold talks in London this September. Under international law he should be arrested for war crimes upon arrival in the U.K for the massacre of over 2000 civilians in 2014
Sign this petition

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At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament

This a despicable facist antisemitic attempt to sour the meliflouos relations between the Uk and the righteous state of israel. (God said so)
I cant beleive the ignorance of people who do not realise which tribe runs things and is exempt from any scrutiny.


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Who owns Britain’s land? 18 Aug 2015 20:43 #44

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Voltaire wrote:
Latest : petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446
Petition Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes when he arrives in London

Benjamin Netanyahu is to hold talks in London this September. Under international law he should be arrested for war crimes upon arrival in the U.K for the massacre of over 2000 civilians in 2014
Sign this petition

69,485 signatures


Government will respond

Government responds to all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures

Waiting for 9 days for a government response
At 100,000 signatures...

At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament

This a despicable facist antisemitic attempt to sour the meliflouos relations between the Uk and the righteous state of israel. (God said so)
I cant beleive the ignorance of people who do not realise which tribe runs things and is exempt from any scrutiny
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Thanks for your contribution, Voltaire.

Just in case you eventually decide to comment on this incident and finally clear it up:

truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/64344-the-holocaust.html?start=1760#175900

Last try.

If you don't, things are crystal clear - at least to me.
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Who owns Britain’s land? 18 Aug 2015 23:27 #45

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Voltaire wrote:
Latest : petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105446
Petition Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes when he arrives in London

Benjamin Netanyahu is to hold talks in London this September. Under international law he should be arrested for war crimes upon arrival in the U.K for the massacre of over 2000 civilians in 2014
Sign this petition

69,485 signatures


Government will respond

Government responds to all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures

Waiting for 9 days for a government response
At 100,000 signatures...

At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament

This a despicable facist antisemitic attempt to sour the meliflouos relations between the Uk and the righteous state of israel. (God said so)
I cant beleive the ignorance of people who do not realise which tribe runs things and is exempt from any scrutiny.
I know ... look at all those 70 000 neo nazis in the UK who want netanyahu arrested for war crimes.

It is the Jewish right to enforce racial supremacy, to subvert the Gentiles to Jewish domination, to surround the Jewish state with an apartheid wall and to ethnically cleanse the surrounding land of its native inhabitants.

How dare those neo nazis challenge this!!

PS: Petition signed. :D
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Who owns Britain’s land? 19 Aug 2015 22:46 #46

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Petition now at 72 000 signatures.

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Who owns Britain’s land? 22 Aug 2015 23:04 #47

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The Zionist controlled British Government responds:
Government responded to your petition

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Hi XXXXXXXX,

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes when he arrives in London”.

Government responded:

Under UK and international law, visiting heads of foreign governments, such as Prime Minister Netanyahu, have immunity from legal process, and cannot be arrested or detained.

The British Government has invited Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as head of the Israeli Government, to visit the UK in September. Under UK and international law, certain holders of high-ranking office in a State, including Heads of State, Heads of Government and Ministers for Foreign Affairs are entitled to immunity, which includes inviolability and complete immunity from criminal jurisdiction.

We recognise that the conflict in Gaza last year took a terrible toll. As the Prime Minister said, we were all deeply saddened by the violence and the UK has been at the forefront of international reconstruction efforts. However the Prime Minister was clear on the UK’s recognition of Israel’s right to take proportionate action to defend itself, within the boundaries of international humanitarian law. We condemn the terrorist tactics of Hamas who fired rockets on Israel, built extensive tunnels to kidnap and murder, and repeatedly refused to accept ceasefires. Israel, like any state, has the right to ensure its own security, as its citizens also have the right to live without fear of attack.

The UK consistently urged Israel to do everything possible to avoid civilian casualties, to exercise restraint, and to help find ways to bring the situation to an end. The UK continues to urge the parties to give priority to reaching a durable solution for Gaza which addresses the underlying drivers of conflict, and to take the necessary practical steps to ensure Gaza’s reconstruction and economic recovery.

We welcome the fact that Israel is conducting internal investigations into specific incidents during Operation Protective Edge. Where there is evidence of wrongdoing those responsible must be held accountable whatever their position in society. Both parties must also demonstrate robust and credible internal investigations which are in line with international standards. We have also encouraged the Israeli authorities, as we do all countries, to cooperate with the independent Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) regarding the preliminary examination into the situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 13 June, 2014, whilst noting that Israel is not a State Party to the ICC.

The UK is a close friend of Israel and we enjoy an excellent bilateral relationship, built on decades of cooperation between our two countries across a range of fields. Our priority for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains the achievement of a two-state solution, based on 1967 borders. We continue to believe that negotiations will be necessary in order to achieve this, and that both parties need to focus on steps that are conducive to peace. The UK Government will reinforce this message to Mr Netanyahu during his visit.

My response to them:
Thank you for confirming that the UK remains firmly controlled by Zionist Jews.

Cromwell really screwed things up when he let them back under the Navigation Act as "payment" for using Jewish money to fund his republican path didnt he?

A bit like the Rothschild family demanding Israel for funding Britain's war effort in WWI ey? Why aren't we taught that when we see the Balfour Declaration was made in favour of a Jewish Zionist globalist financier?
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A Message for England 25 Apr 2016 17:35 #49

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Video description:

You say Hello, I say Goodbye England. Flush the BBC and their leftist views. Flush the university professors too. Start listening to regular Britons whos "far right" views are actually quite normal and common sense.

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True Englisc Patriots 12 Sep 2016 20:00 #50

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Video description:
One of the oppressed peoples of Europe often without representation. While Celtic nationalism is encouraged by the Celtic run British government- Englisc nationalism is portrayed in bad light by those very same people.



Englisc Freedom and TRUE democracy now!


The song is Cædmon's Hymn in Eald Englisc. Sung by Clay Paramore.


I would very much appreciate comments on this video and description by our English members.

Thanks already.

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True Englisc Patriots 12 Sep 2016 20:25 #51

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Video description:
One of the oppressed peoples of Europe often without representation. While Celtic nationalism is encouraged by the Celtic run British government- Englisc nationalism is portrayed in bad light by those very same people.



Englisc Freedom and TRUE democracy now!


The song is Cædmon's Hymn in Eald Englisc. Sung by Clay Paramore.


I would very much appreciate comments on this video and description by our English members.

Thanks already.

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Frau, Frau, Frau, Frau, Frau :facepalm:

Im English, we got fucked by the Romans,the Germanic tribes: Angles and Saxons (Hint) the Vikings and last but not least the Normans. Im a modern day Englishman and could not give a fuck what happend in 55BC or what ever :hmm:

That video was around 2012, never heard of this group and obviously they did not make any inroads in the Nationalist scene in the UK. Bet the fuckers are morris dancers in reality. :wissl:

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Who owns Britain’s land? 13 Sep 2016 16:08 #52

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Who owns THE CROWN? :hahano:

Parliament owns the British Crown insofar as Parliament instructs the monarch what to say and do.
Those are the dudes we elect each general election that win the most seats in the House of Commons.
Mrs Queen is a 'constitutional Monarch' the only political job she gets to do is once a year to read out a speech that the government has written for her.
On topic- here in England 'Freeholders' own their freehold land.
Only freeholders may lease-out land.
Leaseholders own a lease to use the land during the lease period but they do NOT own land itself.
Leaseholders purchase a specified-period lease and in addition to that fee thay also must pay an annual 'ground rent' to the freeholder of the leased land.
Hope that helps.
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Who owns Britain’s land? 13 Sep 2016 17:23 #53

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I tend to think that Frog's responses on page one to this most interesting question by Novum are much more substantiated:


- truth-zone.net/forum/finance-and-economics/63691-who-owns-britain-s-land.html#109639


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Who owns Britain’s land? 25 Sep 2016 15:14 #54

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I tend to think that Frog's responses on page one to this most interesting question by Novum are much more substantiated:


- truth-zone.net/forum/finance-and-economics/63691-who-owns-britain-s-land.html#109639


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That'd be the same Frog who wrote the following utterly risible, ignorant and wilfully wrong; nonsense would it?

"I forgot to say that in reality there is only one recognised OWNER of the land mass known as the British Isles and that is the CROWN. The Crown is the single biggest land owner on the planet bar none! Ask a Canadian, Australian or New Zealanders who owns the land?"

It's not my place to educate morons such as Frog but if you are genuinely interested in English land ownership then check out 'freehold definition in English law' , pick any site you want.
Here's what you'll find...
"Freehold in English Law defines the permanent and absolute tenure of land or property with freedom to dispose of that land at will."
The Crown owns the Crown Estates. Prince Charles as Duke of Cornwall owns the Duchy of Cornwall estates.
"Held in trust for the nation'" is how that Crown or Duchy ownership is further defined.
Neither owns freehold land held by any other freeholder.
That the Crown is 'sovereign' in the UK does not imply that the Crown can take possession of freehold land that is not its own. Anymore than I as a freeholder could take possession of any part of the Crown Estate.

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That'd be the same Frog who wrote the following utterly risible, ignorant and wilfully wrong; nonsense would it?

"I forgot to say that in reality there is only one recognised OWNER of the land mass known as the British Isles and that is the CROWN. The Crown is the single biggest land owner on the planet bar none! Ask a Canadian, Australian or New Zealanders who owns the land?"

It's not my place to educate morons such as Frog but if you are genuinely interested in English land ownership then check out 'freehold definition in English law' , pick any site you want.
Here's what you'll find...
"Freehold in English Law defines the permanent and absolute tenure of land or property with freedom to dispose of that land at will."
The Crown owns the Crown Estates. Prince Charles as Duke of Cornwall owns the Duchy of Cornwall estates.
"Held in trust for the nation'" is how that Crown or Duchy ownership is further defined.
Neither owns freehold land held by any other freeholder.
That the Crown is 'sovereign' in the UK does not imply that the Crown can take possession of freehold land that is not its own. Anymore than I as a freeholder could take possession of any part of the Crown Estate.

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According to my opinion it's you who is the "moron" as described above,
who either does not know better and believes everything the system feeds him,
or you are here to spread system crap only.

To be quite frank, I think you are proving over and over again that the latter is the case.

Unfortunately Frog is no longer here to defend himself and riposte in an adequate way,
so you are again showing the quality of your character and not only your very limited
intellectual abilities, especially compared to those of Frog.

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Selective reading yet again Pfizipie.
It does you no good really, you'll never learn anything new.
Frog's comments were BS pure and simple.
Freeholders know what freehold is.
I often get the sense when posting online that I'm talking to either tenants or leaseholders.
Other times it seems as though a troglodyte is responding.
As with our late and unlamented poster Mr Frog.

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Selective reading yet again Pfizipie.
It does you no good really, you'll never learn anything new.
Frog's comments were BS pure and simple.
Freeholders know what freehold is.
I often get the sense when posting online that I'm talking to either tenants or leaseholders.
Other times it seems as though a troglodyte is responding.
As with our late and unlamented poster Mr Frog.

:)

Very impressive and most convincing chain of reasoning.

I increasingly get the impression that you might have been here before in another guise
and he already gave you the low-down to a T, as he usually did with windbags like you.

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My 2c on OZ, they just take land in australia when they want it, you cant stop them.

If they want your land, they take it all. It might be for a road, a commercial development or a mine. They just take it, its called compulsory acquisition, and you cant do squat... they pay compensation for it typically, but its not always fair.

And If they want to frack on your farm they just move in and frack, ask the farmers in Queensland. Though it was banned in victoria after the corporations coincidentally decided they had to frack where the biggest potato growers in the southern hemisphere are congretated.. that was a suprise, i suppose it was all too obv.

And when they do take land, im quite sure THE CROWN is mentioned... maybe others can chime in to clarify re OZ.

I know its also mentioned when they take your car for spinning a wheel or something, and sell it.. its called forfeiture to THE CROWN. They take your car and auction it if you get 2 strikes within 10 years for spinning a wheel (thats a strike offence) or excessive engine noise (another strike offence) or speeding 30k above the limit (again another strike offence) . but i digress.

Australians know that 'owning' their land in OZ is not the same as owning your land in the USA for example, many americans seem to also be aware of the situation in OZ.

I dont know much about the situ in the UK.
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Im talking freehold land btw... when for all intensive purposes you are the 'owner'

But you arent really, they still are. They just take it from you when they want it.

Lots of people find this out the hard way.

Many truther americans are also aware of this and take the mick out of ozzies on that score.

Same goes for not paying your council rates.. or not doing works to your property that the council forces you to do (eg new plumbing to comply to their regulations) .. if youre served a council notice here and dont do what they say by the deadline.. they come in and do the works anyway, tack it onto your council rates bill (and it could be something like 20K worth of works or more).. and then if you dont pay the bill, you lose your 'freehold' .. lol.

So we are only allowed to operate within their paradigm, we cant tell em to feck off and just hold onto our land.. were only effectively leasing it, is one way some people put it... and thats just the top crust too, they own anything underneath (natural resources) and can come and take it at any time if you have anything valuable under your land (gas, coal, etc)
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
GMP wrote:
Selective reading yet again Pfizipie.
It does you no good really, you'll never learn anything new.
Frog's comments were BS pure and simple.
Freeholders know what freehold is.
I often get the sense when posting online that I'm talking to either tenants or leaseholders.
Other times it seems as though a troglodyte is responding.
As with our late and unlamented poster Mr Frog.

:)

Very impressive and most convincing chain of reasoning.

I increasingly get the impression that you might have been here before in another guise
and he already gave you the low-down to a T, as he usually did with windbags like you.

:)
Not me Pfizipie.
I have only ever posted as grandmasterp on DIF plus a Martial Arts forum and GMP on here.
Never used any other names anywhere.
Last Edit: 26 Sep 2016 14:50 by GMP.
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