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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 25 May 2018 18:11 #121

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Emil Maurice, Adolf Hitler's JEWISH driver

Yet another Jew Hitler pardoned. ;)



For several years, Emil Maurice (1897-1972), a close associate and personal friend of Adolf Hitler, was Hitler's automobile driver in the early years of the National Socialist movement.

"Emil Maurice, early member of Stosstrupp Hitler [later, the "SS"]... From July to August 1923 he was Hitler's driver, and again from February 1925 to January 1928. He shared with him imprisonment at Landsberg. On the eve of Hitler's release on December 20, 1924, Maurice helped him conceal the typescript of Mein Kampf in his gramophone case..." (www.fpp.co.uk/shop/Maurice/index.html).

"Hitler sign[ed] a testimonial for Maurice in August 1928..." (www.fpp.co.uk/shop/Maurice/images/1928_08_AH_testimonial_1000.gif).

"When Hitler learned that his chauffeur Emil Maurice was in fact Jewish, in 1939, he signed an Aryan certificate to spare him from Nazi persecution or worse. . . " (www.fpp.co.uk/shop/Maurice/images/Maurice_passport_600.gif).
“Hitlerism enables us to convert all Jews to Zionism” - Nahum Sokolow World Zionist president 1933.
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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 25 May 2018 21:38 #122

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Zionazi "Training" Centers in Germany (SS approved Terrorist trainning camps)

This database includes 1,715 trainees from various Jewish "training" centers in Germany in the 1930's.

After Hitler came to power in 1933, thousands of Jews resident in Germany attempted to obtain visas to any country which would take them. However, many did not have the family, financial or professional connections to make this possible in the face of immigration restrictions around the world. This was particularly true of young persons. German Jewish organizations prepared guides on how and where to obtain visas; but it was evident that many prospective emigrants needed training in agricultural or technical skills in order to qualify. This, in turn, led to the establishment of "training" centers all over Germany.

Between 1934 and 1938, at least 29 centers were established. Some were run by Zionist organizations and focused on training persons for agricultural work in Palestine, but others trained people in various skills necessary to emigrate to any country. The centers had an average capacity of 40-50 young men and women, and trainees remained for anywhere from 3-6 months. Some even attended more than one camp.

Gestapo records seized by the Russians at the end of World War II, and recently filmed by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum [RG11.001M Reels 1-5], document Gestapo suspicions about the existence of these institutions. However, after some debate, it was decided to permit the centers to continue to operate since they facilitated the departure of Jews from Germany, a primary Nazi objective. Each center was required to submit monthly reports listing the trainees and training personnel. An incomplete collection of these reports for 13 centers is included in the USHMM collection, and I have computerized the roughly 1,800 names, which appear on these lists.

The extent of information given on each individual varies but usually includes at least name, date of birth and nationality. Many of the persons are listed as "Polish", even though they had long resided in, or even been born in, Germany. German citizenship was based on the citizenship of a person's father (not place of birth) and naturalization was difficult. In a few cases their "destination", inside or outside Germany, is given, but in most cases the fate of these persons cannot be established from the lists themselves. Nevertheless, relatively few of these names appear in the German Government's Gedenkbuch, which would appear to indicate that many, perhaps most, managed to use this training to escape from Germany and, thereby, survive the Holocaust.

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After 1933, Jewish organisations had at first continued to pursue their earlier goals. To name but just two examples: the Central Association of German Citizens of the Jewish Faith (Centralverein deutscher Staatsbürger jüdischen Glaubens: CV) continued to fight antisemitism and did everything it could legally and journalistically to prevent the dismantling of civil rights of Jews; in contrast, the Zionist Union for Germany (Zionistische Vereinigung für Deutschland) stepped up their efforts to facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. In September 1933, these and most of the other German-Jewish organisations merged under the umbrella organisation “Reich Federation of German Jews” (“Reichsvertretung der deutschen Juden”: RV), which the Nazi state however never officially recognised as a representative body. At first, the committees of the Reich Federation operated within the usual channels of traditional association action: their memorandums, letters and petitions to high-ranking Nazis and the ministerial bureaucracy were dedicated to enabling Jews to continue living in Germany in decent conditions permanently or, at the very least, until they emigrated. They strove to strengthen Jewish identity, to put parallel structures in place and to offset the impact of anti-Jewish measures through internal solidarity. Emigration soon became the focus of their efforts. The Zionists ran Hakhshara camps [Document B06] and actively supported a realigning of professional profiles and training into skilled manual professions, crucial for the development work needed in Palestine. With the Haavara Agreement, which enabled Jewish assets and possessions to be transferred to Palestine as German exports, they gained an important success. This was something the “assimilated” Jews, who supported emigration mainly overseas, could not boast despite all their efforts. They, too, offered young people vocational training with a view to changing the hitherto academic-commercial occupational pattern in the direction of “manual” work. With this reorientation they sought to refute the argument put forward by antisemites that Jews were incapable of physical work while simultaneously enabling younger Jews to earn a livelihood in Germany as well as prepairing them for emigration.

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Stern Gang Nazi links. (Ankara Agreement.)
After the verdict, Israeli opinion was shaken. In the newspaper "Haaretz",
Dr. Moshe Keren wrote on July 14th 1955 :"Kastner must be tried for
collaboration with the Nazis..." But the evening paper "Yediot Aharonot"
(23rd June,1955) clearly explained why this was impossible. "If Kastner is
tried, the entire government might collapse before the nation, following
what this trial will uncover."

What would be discovered was that Kastner had not acted alone but with the
agreement of the other Zionist leaders who were members of the government at
the time of the trial. The only way to prevent Kastner from talking and
causing a scandal was for him to disappear. And indeed, he died at just the
right moment, after which the Israeli Government introduced an appeal to
rehabilitate him. The Supreme Court granted the appeal.

This policy of collaboration reached its apogee in 1941, when the most
extremist Zionist group, the "LEHI" ("Fighters for the Liberation of
Israel"), led by Abraham Stern and, after his death, by a triumvirate of
which Itzak Shamir was a member, committed " an unforgivable crime from the
moral point of view : advocating an alliance with Hitler, with Nazi Germany,
against Great Britain. "

Source : Bar Zohar. "Ben Gourion, le Prophčte armé" (Fayard. Paris 1966.
p.99)

Eliezer Halevi, a well-known Labor unionist, member of the Gueva Kibbutz,
revealed in the weekly "Tel-Aviv Hotam" (August l9th, 1983) the existence of
a document signed by Itzak Shamir (who was then called Yezernitsky) and by
Abraham Stern; this document was handed over to the German embassy in Ankara
at a time of all-out war in Europe, and when Marshal Rommel's troops were
already on Egyptian soil. The document said, among other things, "In the
matter of concept, we identify with you. So why not collaborate with one
another ?" In its issue of January 31st,1983, "Haaretz" quotes a letter
marked "secret", sent in January 1941 by Hitler's ambassador to Ankara,
Franz Von Papen, to his superiors. In it, he described his contacts with the
members of the Stern Gang, joining a memorandum by the Nazi secret service
agent in Damas, Werner Otto Von Hentig, regarding the negotiations with the
envoys of Stern and Shamir. The memo said, notably : "cooperation between
the Israel liberation movement and the new order in Europe conform with one
of the speeches of the Chancellor of the Third Reich, in which Hitler
stressed the need to use every combination of coalition to isolate and
defeat England." It also said that the Stern Gang had "close links with the
totalitarian movements in Europe, their ideology and structures." These
documents are to be found at the Holocaust Memorial (Yad Vachem) in
Jerusalem, classified under the number E234151-8.

One of the historical leaders of the Stern Gang, Israel Eldad, published an
article in the Tel Aviv daily,"Yediot Aharonot" (February 4th, 1983) in
which he confirmed the authenticity of these negotiations between his
movement and the official representatives of Nazi Germany. He asserted
straight out that his colleagues had explained to the Nazis how there was a
probable identity of interest between the new order in Europe based on the
German concept, and the aspirations of the Jewish people in Palestine, as
represented by the Stern freedom fighters for Israel.

This text was entitled :

"Basic principles of the military organization(NMO) in Palestine (Irgun
Zevai Leumi) concerning the solution of the Jewish question in Europe and
the active participation of the NMO in the war on the side of Germany."

The following are extracts :
It emerges from the speeches of the leaders of the German National Socialist
State that a radical solution to the Jewish question implies an evacuation
of the Jewish masses from Europe. (Judenreines Europa).

This evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is the primary condition of
the solution of the Jewish problem, but it is only made possible by the
installation of these masses in Palestine, in a Jewish state with its
historical frontiers.

To resolve the Jewish problem definitively and to liberate the Jewish people
is the goal of the political activity and the long years of struggle of the
"Movement for the Freedom of Israel" (Lehi) and its national military
organization in Palestine (Irgun Zevai Leumi).

The NMO, knowing the benevolent position of the Reich government towards the
Zionist activity within Germany, and the Zionist emigration projects,
considers that:

1) There could exist common interests between the foundation of a new order
in Europe, according to the German concept, and the genuine aspirations of
the Jewish people as they are incarnated by the Lehi.

2) Cooperation would be possible between the new Germany and a renewed
Hebrew nation (Volkish Nationalen Hebraertum).

3) The establishment of the historical Jewish State on a national and
totalitarian base, linked by a treaty to a German Reich, could contribute to
the reinforcement in the future of Germany's position in the Middle East.

On condition that the German government recognizes the national aspirations
of the 'Movement for the Freedom of Israel' (Lehi), the National Military
Organization (NMO) proposes to participate in the war on the side of
Germany.

The cooperation of the Israel liberation movement would go in the direction
of the recent speeches of the Reich chancellor, in which Mr. Hitler stressed
that all negotiations and any alliance should serve to isolate England and
to defeat it.

Because of its structure and concept of the world, the NMO is narrowly
linked to the European totalitarian movements.

Zionazi gistapo (Zagiew Group 13)
The Group Thirteen network (Polish: Trzynastka, Yiddish: דאָס דרײַצענטל) was a Jewish collaborationist organisation in the Warsaw Ghetto during the German occupation of Poland in World War II. The Thirteen took its informal name from the address of its main office at 13 Leszno Street in Warsaw. The group was founded in December 1940 and led by Abraham Gancwajch,[1] the former head of Hashomer Hatzair in Łódź.[2] Sanctioned by Sicherheitsdienst (SD),[3] and also known as the Jewish Gestapo,[4] the unit reported directly to the German Gestapo office.[5]

The group vied for control of the ghetto with the Judenrat,[4] and infiltrated the Jewish opposition within the ghetto.[5] The group's most important branch was the Office to Combat Usury and Profiteering in the Jewish Quarter of Warsaw.[6] Supposed to fight the black market, it actually collected large sums via racketeering, blackmail and extortions.[3][4] The group also ran its own prison. In total, the group numbered between three and four hundred uniformed Jewish officers, distinguished by caps with green bands.[6] The admittance payment to become a member of the “13” was several thousand zlotys issued by the German-controlled Bank.[7]

In July 1941 the Group 13 lost to the Judenrat in the political arena and the Office was incorporated into the Jupo police force.[4]

After the Office was closed, the active members of the Group 13 centered on Gancwajch, and concentrated their efforts on setting up their own infirmary and ambulance service (the so-called Emergency Service, or the First Aid Station, which was created in May 1941). However, the company's resources soon became used predominantly for smuggling and contraband.[3][4] They also ran other operations, for example a brothel at the Britannica hotel.[4] They had near total control over the horse-drawn carriages and all transportation within the ghetto.[3]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_13

Abraham Gancwajch (Zionazi)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Gancwajch
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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 25 May 2018 22:47 #123

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Good stuff, porridge, thanks! No, I hadn't heard of Hanussen yet, so great addition, I will watch the video soon.

Emil Maurice I named earlier, but because his jewish roots were public (secret), I didn't spend too much time on him, so very valuable you do.

Perfect addition about the Zionazi training network too. I looked into the Haganah, the precursor to the IDF in "Ze Holy Land" and they already in the 1930s collaborated deeply with the Nazionists.
A Haganah agent, Feivel Polkes, arrived in Berlin on 26 February 1937 and was assigned Adolf Eichmann as his negotiating partner. Eichmann had been a protege of the pro-Zionist von Mildenstein and, like his mentor, had studied Hebrew, read Herzl and was the SD's specialist on Zionism. The Eichmann-Polkes conversations were recorded in a report prepared by Eichmann’s superior, Franz-Albert Six, which was found in the SS files captured by the American Army at the end of the Second World War:

"Polkes is a national-Zionist He is against all Jews who are opposed to the erection of a Jewish state in Palestine. As a Haganah man he fights against Communism and all aims of Arab-British friendship ... He noted that the Haganah’s goal is to reach, as soon as possible, a Jewish majority in Palestine. Therefore he worked, as this objective required, with or against the British Intelligence Service, the Sureté Generale, with England and Italy ... He declared himself willing to work for Germany in the form of providing intelligence as long as this does not oppose his own political goals. Among other things he would support German foreign policy in the Near East. He would try to find oil sources for the German Reich without affecting British spheres of interest if the German monetary regulations were eased for Jewish emigrants to Palestine."
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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 26 May 2018 00:48 #124

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I was reading into Ken Livingston & came up with those interesting Zio links. The Abraham Gancwajch "Jewish mafia" character is worth reading into..puts it all into perspective, how Jews of the day were being treated who didnt want nothing to do with the Zionist agenda.

The Maurice character is definitely an interesting one,
Maurice got caught screwing Hitlers niece (shagpiece) Geli Raubal, who they reckon got pregnant & then turned up suicided..
Yet he didnt have Maurice killed? So must have been pretty close with the Jew boy. :lmao:
Him also being in Landsberg prison..what a coincidence. :facepalm:

And in that photo above you can see Maurice giving it the M sign behind Hitler, who seems to seems to be giving the Lions paw.
They were all faking masons..



Heres Hitler giving another masonic handshake hidden in plain site.. coming out of his Pontins prison camp.

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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 29 May 2018 23:13 #125

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Rudolf von Sebottendorf
Adam Alfred Rudolf Glauer (9 November 1875 – 8 May 1945?), better known under his pseudo-aristocratic alias Rudolf Freiherr von Sebottendorff (or von Sebottendorf) was a German occultist, writer, intelligence agent and political activist. He was an important figure in the activities of the Thule Society, a post-World War I German occultist organization that influenced many members of the Nazi Party. He was a Freemason,[1] a Sufi of the Bektashi order - after his conversion to Islam[2] - and a practitioner of meditation, astrology, numerology, and alchemy.[3] He also used the alias Erwin Torre.




Glauer was introducted to occultism and esoteric concerns when he was living in Bursa, Turkey. His wealthy host, Hussein Pasha, was a Sufi and interested in such matters; it was around this time that Glauer saw the Mevlevi Order and visited Great Pyramid of Giza in July 1900.[5] At Bursa, Glaucer became aquainted with the Termudi family, who were Jews from Thessaloniki.[5] The Termudi family were involved in banking and the silk trade.[5] They were also Freemasons, belonging to a lodge affiliated to the Rite of Memphis-Misraim.[5] This network of lodges was closely connected to the Committee of Union and Progress (which later joined the Young Turks).[1] The patriarch of the Termudi family initiated Glauer into the lodge and when Termudi died, he bequethed his library of occult, Kabbalistic, Rosicrucian and Sufi texts to Glauer.[5][6]

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Karl Harrer

Not much info on this guy, but picture speaks for itself. :ponda:
Your opinion Gaia?

Harrer was "commissioned" by the Thule Society to try and politically influence German workers in Munich after the end of World War I.[1] At the time, Harrer was a reporter with a right-wing newspaper. Harrer convinced Anton Drexler and several others to form the Politischer Arbeiterzirkel (Political Workers' Circle) in 1918.[1] The members met periodically for discussions with themes of nationalism and racism directed against the Jews.[1] Although Harrer preferred that the small group remain a semi-secret nationalistic club, Drexler wanted to make it a political party.[1] Thereafter, Drexler proposed the founding of the DAP in December, 1918. On 5 January 1919 the DAP was formed, in which not only Harrer and Drexler but also Gottfried Feder and Dietrich Eckart were involved. With the DAP founding, Drexler was elected chairman and Harrer was made "Reich Chairman", an honorary title.[2] The DAP was the predecessor to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers Party – NSDAP); commonly known as the Nazi Party.[3]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Harrer
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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 30 May 2018 01:05 #126

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Von Sebottendorf I knew about but no, thanks Harrer I didn't.
SEGUNDA GUERRA MUNDIAL: EL PARTIDO OBRERO ALEMÁN I PARTE
En diciembre de 1918 el Dr. Paul Tafel, mentor de Drexler, líder de la Alldeutscher Verband -Unión Pangermanista- director de la Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg, la fábrica de camiones que ahora conocemos como MAN SE, y miembro de la Sociedad Thule, alentó a Drexler para formar el Deutsche Arbeiterpartei -Partido Obrero Alemán-DAP. Y así lo hizo el 5 de enero de 1919 en el hotel Fürstenfelder Hof de Múnich, Drexler fundó el DAP, un partido nacionalista-socialista con él como presidente y Karl Harrer honorariamente como Presidente Líder. Entre los primeros miembros se encontraban Ernst Boepple, Dietrich Eckart, Gottfried Feder, Hans (((Frank))), Ernst Röhm y Alfred (((Rosenberg))).
SEGUNDA GUERRA MUNDIAL: EL PARTIDO OBRERO ALEMÁN II PARTE. NACE EL PARTIDO NAZI
Hitler sugirió el nombre de Partido Social Revolucionario pero Rudolf Jung lo convenció de usar el del partido austriaco, eso sonaba más atractivo en Alemania en aquella época.

Hitler suggested [as name for the NSDAP] "Social Revolutionary Party" [sounds pretty commie, doesn't it?] but Rudolf Jung convinced him to use the Austrian party name, which sounded more attractive in the Germany of the time.

Apparently the guy had no parents. Or rather, they scrubbed them because the jewish links would be obvious...

I cannot open this link, the server doesn't respond, does it work for you? Karl Harrer - Metapedia

*Hispanic voice* Interesting... muy interesante...
It was Karl Harrer, the Nazi party member who supposedly ‘died’ in 1926. In the book I detail how Harrer was used as one of Hitler’s ‘doubles’ a practice followed by a number of WWII leaders, most notably Winston Churchill. In the book Hitler, along with Himmler and others, leaves Germany from the Kiel submarine yards aboard U-530. I have written about the arrival of U-530 in Argentina earlier in this blog.

In the book “Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler” writers Gerrard Williams and Simon Dunstan detail Hitler’s life in Argentina with Eva Braun until his death in 1965. The story, now making headlines all over the world, draws attention once again to the myth that will not die–that Hitler actually did survive the war. Much is made of the fact that Stalin said as much in 1945, insisting that Hitler’s [body] was not found in the gardens of the Reichs Chancellery. The claim is further fueled by photographs of the body that have surfaced that show a man’s face that resembles Hitler–but is clearly not the actual man.

Was there is an uncanny likeness between German Karl Harrer and Adolf Hitler? Wikipedia published a picture of Karl Harrer in a Harrer biography–and removed it this year. It appears over the name Karl Harrer at moonmentum.com (link at bottom of post) and is now saved among a collection of pictures of Hitler on Google images. Did Wikipedia get it wrong? Why do so many others think this is a picture of Harrer, not Hitler? While the picture mostly likely is that of a younger Hitler, the ‘mistake’ lends further fuel to the argument that it was Harrer not Hitler whose burned corpse was found by the Russians.
Harrer murió el 5 de septiembre de 1926 en Munich de "causas naturales."

At age 35, SUUURE!!
El 5 de enero de 1919, funda el Partido de los Trabajadores Alemanes (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, DAP) con Drexler, Dietrich Eckart, Hermann Esser, Gottfried Feder y (((Emil Maurice))). Posteriormente se afilió el filósofo Alfred (((Rosenberg))).
Hermann Esser

A radical socialist, after he joined a left-wing provincial newspaper to train as a journalist. Having previously formed his own Social Democrat party, but as it was small and one of numerous post-Armistice parties in Germany and Austria, it quickly failed.

Having met Anton Drexler through his work, he joined with the group of men that formed the DAP: Drexler, Gottfried Feder and Dietrich Eckart. Esser joined the party, holding membership card No. 2. In 1920 he met Hitler in the regional press office of the Reichswehr (Army of the Weimar Republic), and was made editor of Völkischer Beobachter that same year.

Esser enjoyed life and the power that his media and political power gave him with women, which quickly got him into trouble. After he got a young woman pregnant, and refused to marry her, she appealed directly to Hitler who told Esser that he must do the right thing. On birth of the child, Hitler became the child’s godfather.

One big clique of jews, Masons, occultists, radical socialists, gays, infidel men.... Ahhh, but ZO NOBEL, Zese Nazis! :larf:
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Yet another interesting close collaboration between Nazionists was the "Jews for Cash" or "Jews for Goods" deals.

Main players in this deal were:
- (((Joel Brand))) - Featured Article on Wikipedia to enhance his "heroic" status...
- (((Adolf Eichmann)))
- Heinrich Himmler
Joel Brand (25 April 1906 – 13 July 1964) was a leading member, in the 1940s, of Budapest's Aid and Rescue Committee, which smuggled Jews out of German-occupied Europe to the relative safety of Hungary during the Holocaust. After Germany invaded Hungary in March 1944, Brand became known for his efforts to save the country's Jews from deportation to the Auschwitz concentration camp in German-occupied Poland.

In April 1944, Brand was approached by Adolf Eichmann, the German Schutzstaffel (SS) officer who had arrived in Budapest to organize the deportations. Eichmann proposed that Brand broker a deal between the SS and the United States or Britain, in which the Nazis would exchange one million Jews for 10,000 trucks for the Eastern front and large quantities of tea and other goods. It was the most ambitious of a series of such deals between Nazi and Jewish leaders. Eichmann called it "Blut gegen Waren" ("blood for goods").

"""Nothing came of the proposal""", which The Times of London called one of the most loathsome stories of the war. Historians believe that the SS, including its commander, Heinrich Himmler, intended the negotiations as cover for peace talks with the Western Allies that would exclude the Soviet Union and perhaps even Adolf Hitler. Whatever its purpose, the proposal was thwarted by the British government. They arrested Brand in Aleppo (then under British control), where he had gone to propose Eichmann's offer to the Jewish Agency, and put an end to it by leaking details to the media.

The failure of the proposal, and the wider issue of why the Allies were unable to save the 435,000 Hungarian Jews deported to Auschwitz between May and July 1944, became the subject of bitter debate for many years. In 1961 Life magazine called Brand "a man who lives in the shadows with a broken heart". He told an interviewer shortly before his death in 1964: "An accident of life placed the fate of one million human beings on my shoulders. I eat and sleep and think only of them.

Right, so Adolf Eichmann, allegedly the mass murderer of Auschwitz, wanted to organize 1,000,000 jews for 10,000 trucks. That is quite a bad deal, but the idea in itself is already preposterous. Of course Zionpedia tries to downplay this plan by stating "nothing came of it". Well, that is strange, because if those jews didn't end up in the bread ovens of Housewitz, after swimming and attending opera shows, then where did they end up?

It gets better, because who was this Brand? Russell, anyone?
One of seven children, Brand was born to a Jewish family in Naszód, Siebenbürgen (Transylvania), then part of Austria-Hungary.

When he was 19 he went to stay with an uncle in New York, then worked his way across the United States, washing dishes and working on roads and in mines.

Coming from a family of 7 children, you need quite some money in those days to go to New fucking York, in 1924...
He joined the Communist Party, worked for the Comintern as a sailor, and sailed to Hawaii, the Philippines, South America, China, and Japan. In or around 1930 he returned to Erfurt, where his father had founded another telephone company. Brand took a job with the company and became a functionary with the Thuringian KPD (Communist Party of Germany).

Oh yeah, why not? Barely 25 and traveling the world as a "communist" functionary. Then settling back in Germany also as a commie...
He was living in Germany on 30 January 1933 when Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor, and as a communist was arrested just before the Reichstag fire on 27 February that year [1933]. Released in 1934, he settled in Budapest, where he worked again for his father's company. He joined the Poale Zion, a Marxist-Zionist party, became a vice-president of the Budapest Palestine Office, which organized Jewish emigration to Palestine, and sat on the governing body of the Jewish National Fund.

Huh? But wait a minute? Don't the House Nazis here perpetraite the idea that "Ze Noble Zo Cool Nazis were VERY much opposed to:
- Jews
- Zionists
- Communists"??

How is it possible then that under a Nazi regime (1934) a major jewish Marxist-Zionist guy gets released by the all-powerful, very anti-communist and "jew-wise" Nazis? That doesn't make any sense... well, in the Nazi fanboy idea it doesn't, following Nazionism it makes perfect sense...
Brand's involvement in smuggling Jews into Hungary began in July 1941, when Hansi Brand's sister and brother-in-law were caught up in the Kamianets-Podilskyi deportations. The Hungarian government sent 18,000 Jews to German-occupied Ukraine because they were unable to prove they were Hungarian citizens; 14,000–16,000 of them """were shot""" by the SS. Brand paid a Hungarian counter-espionage officer to bring his wife's relatives back safely.

Through the Poale Zion party, the Brands joined other Zionists engaged in rescue work, including Rezső Kasztner, a lawyer and journalist from Kolozsvár (Cluj), and Ottó Komoly, an engineer, and in January 1943 the group set up the Aid and Rescue Committee with Komoly as chairperson. The committee raised money, forged documents, maintained contacts with intelligence agencies and ran safe houses. Brand testified during Adolf Eichmann's [show] trial that, between 1941 and the invasion in March 1944, they had helped 22,000–25,000 Jews reach Hungary.

Oskar Schindler became one of the committee's contacts, smuggling letters and money into the Kraków ghetto on their behalf.[14] During a visit by Schindler to Budapest in November 1943, they learned that he had been bribing Nazi officers to let him bring Jewish refugees into his factory in Poland, which he ran as a safe haven. This further encouraged the committee, after the invasion of Hungary, to try negotiating with the SS.

Aha! "Negotiating with the SS"? Wasn't the SS the all-powerful strong arm of "anti-jewish", "anti-commie" and "anti-filthy jewish banker and merchant hands" warfare? Apparently you can just "negotiate" with them, if you're a jewish communist of course, as that is what the Nazionists love (think Hitler and Mussolini, as well as Horst Mahler in the present)...
Brand received a message on 25 April that SS Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann wanted to see him. Eichmann had arrived in Budapest as head of the Sondereinsatzkommando overseeing the deportation of the Jews. Brand was told to wait in the Opera Café and from there was driven by the SS to Eichmann's headquarters at the Hotel Majestic.

Majestic! indeed.
SS Untersturmbannführer Kurt Becher, an emissary of Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, was also at the meeting. In a tone that Brand compared to the "clatter of a machine gun," [bit of dramatization to portray him later as "Ze Enemy"] Eichmann offered to sell him one million Jews, not for money, but for goods from overseas:

I have already made investigations about you and your people and I have verified your ability to make a deal. Now then, I am prepared to sell you one million Jews ... Goods for blood – blood for goods. You can take them from any country you like, wherever you can find them – Hungary, Poland, the Ostmark, from Theresienstadt, from Auschwitz, wherever you like.

Eichmann said he would discuss the proposal with Berlin, and that in the meantime Brand should decide what kinds of goods he was in a position to offer. Brand asked how the committee was supposed to obtain these goods. Eichmann said he should open negotiations with the Allies overseas and that Eichmann would arrange a travel permit. Brand suggested Istanbul, where another committee member had a Jewish Agency contact. He testified years later that on leaving the hotel he felt like a "stark madman".

Ha! Apparently as a Marxist Zionist jew you not only can negotiate with the Nazis, they even bow down for you. Which is not surprising, as Dolfy Eichmann was a major jew and Zionist himself of course...

It was not only Auschwitz however, also Bergen-Belsen (Frankly speaking... if you get what I mean...)
Kettlitz was a 'Wirtschafter' (an economist specialist), and OIC of SS Equipment Purchases in the WVHA's Weapon's Equipment Section (D-1-4) assigned to the staff of the HSSPF Budapest (Obergruppenführer Dr.Otto Winkelmann).

He first came to prominence in late 1944 as an Obersturmbannführer when he was involved in Himmler's shady deals of 'Hungarian Jews for Cash' fiasco. He liased with Eichmann and Becher in moving Hungarian Jews held in KZ Belsen-Bergen into Switzerland [that is like 400 km] at the railway border crossing at St.Margarethen. Becher at the time was his immediate boss. Haupsturmführer Erich Krell was his immediate subordinate.

www.redcap70.net/A%20History%20of%20the%20SS%20Organisation%201924-1945.html/K/KETTLITZ,%20Herbert.html

Kettlitz is a jewish name, see this "Holocaust victim", allegedly murdered in Theresienstadt..., it is also spelled Kudlats, in a kind of Lithuanian way I suppose: Kudlats, Rabinowitz and Gold, how jewish do you want it to be?

But more than that, his Obergruppenführer (((Winkelmann))) was also a jew, of course. Winkel is Dutch and Yiddish for "shop" (in German it would be Geschäft), essentially "Winkelmann" = "Kaufman(n)", think Andy, the famous comedian.

And of course, how do the Nazionists get that money from those "failed" "migrations" """back"""? By extorting the present population, who has nothing to do with those times, actions or people.
The government of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán settled an ongoing feud with the Conference of Material Claims Against Germany on Saturday, signing a deal to resume providing reparations to Hungarian Holocaust survivors located abroad.

In 2007, Hungary pledged $21 million to be distributed over five years to native Holocaust survivors, facilitated in part by the Claims Conference.
www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Hungarian-Holocaust-survivors-to-receive-reparations-319064

So much for Viktor Orban being an "anti-NWO nationalist populist"....

Eventually the sum is even higher:
Soon, though, in what American Jewish groups say they believe will be the first in a series of long-overdue compensations to Holocaust survivors in Eastern Europe, Miss Neumann is to receive an additional pension, of about $66 a month from the Hungarian Government.

Although the compensation is painfully small, Clinton Administration officials and American Jewish leaders view it as symbolically important because the Hungarian Government is the first in the region to tackle the problem of restitution to a particularly impoverished group of Jewish survivors.

Those are the Jews who, unlike their relatives who moved to the West and qualified for pensions from the German and Israeli Governments, never received any form of compensation for suffering at the hands of the Nazis.

Stuart E. Eizenstat, who headed the Clinton Administration's recent study of gold and other assets looted by Nazi Germany, calls those survivors the ''double victims'' of World War II. Sequestered behind the Iron Curtain, they failed to receive what was rightfully theirs, he said, because the Allies decided in the late 1940's not to send them monetary compensation, believing any hard currency would be confiscated by Communist governments.

Mr. Eizenstat and the World Jewish Congress have been talking for about five years with governments in Eastern Europe, urging them to come up with restitution laws that would compensate Jewish survivors still in the region.

The first tangible result is the Hungarian Government's restitution law, made official last month, which includes $26 million in pensions for elderly Jews as well as the return of Jewish communal property. The $26 million represents an advance on property that cannot be returned because it is currently occupied.

The secretary general of the World Jewish Congress, Israel Singer, said that the money, which will benefit about 17,000 elderly and needy Hungarian Jews, would be bolstered in time by an $185 million fund recently put aside by Swiss banks, which have come under increasing pressure to search for the assets deposited by Holocaust victims.

Another $70 million that remains in gold looted by the Nazis from individuals and central banks and held by the Tripartite Gold Commission, an allied agency set up after World War II to deal with Nazi-seized assets, would also be distributed to Holocaust survivors in the former Soviet bloc, Mr. Singer said. [right and how is that trickling downward? In lower interest rates and higher credit interests for the customers, as well as the Swiss government extorting even MORE money from their gullible citizens...]
www.nytimes.com/1997/07/27/world/hungary-to-pay-war-s-forgotten-jews.html

But there's an interesting nugget to find in the first (((report))) (Jewish post, the second is that other Jewish post; the New York Times):
“The Claims Conference did not make this money disappear,” he said. Rather, the Claims Conference’s list of survivors in Israel did not match the list of survivors held by the Hungarian government due to refugees arriving in Israel and Hebraicizing their names.

“They could not identify the persons.
That was the problem,” he said.

Right, So that is how they smuggled the jews from the "Holocaust" to Palestine. Just change the name and you got a new identity. Those "6 million" (more like 3-4, but still a huge amount) had to go somewhere (via main ports as Odessa and Istanbul), at least they didn't go into the ovens or on Frothy's magickal kosher BBQ...
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Definitely another nail in the coffin for the Zionazis collaboration, good research Gaia...of course stalkers fuming..why do some hate the truth?

Dunno about Himmler being Jewish or part of it tho??..he seems to be the only Nazi who had an issue & called out Jewish Nazi.
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Definitely another nail in the coffin for the Zionazis collaboration, good research Gaia...of course stalkers fuming..why do some hate the truth?

Dunno about Himmler being Jewish or part of it tho??..he seems to be the only Nazi who had an issue & called out Jewish Nazi.

Thanks.

Yes, good point about Himmler. He however was part of an occult society (like all of 'em).

As a youngster, he dreamed of emigrating to... South America. Peru in his case. So did he "commit suicide" in Allied custody? Probably not, eh?The 2nd biggest Nazionist fish and the biggest "alive" (Dolfy was also of course, or you'd have to believe stoopid Soviet stories)... I don't think so. Probably enjoyed some pisco and ceviche in the 1950s...
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Hitlers Kosher friends.
Despite meticulous investigation, historical researchers have been unable to find a personal reason for Hitler’s hatred of the Jews. Hitler was not refused admission to art school by a Jewish professor, nor was he infected with syphilis by a Jewish prostitute – these myths have been definitively discounted through meticulous research. Even Hitler himself did not cite a negative personal experience with Jews.

In Mein Kampf, only an encounter with a ‘figure in a long caftan with black hair’ is mentioned, which reputedly led Hitler to address the arguments of anti-Semites for the first time. Analysis of the accounts of contemporary witnesses indicates that Hitler not only had no negative experiences with Jews in Vienna, but in fact had a remarkable number of Jewish friends and business associates. At the time Hitler resided in Vienna, around eight to ten per cent of the city’s population were Jews. This was also the approximate ratio of Jewish residents in the men’s hostel Hitler lived in. However, the proportion of Jews among Hitler’s associates was far higher than this percentage. In fact, it almost seems as if the young Hitler preferred to spend his time with Jews. Historian Brigitte Hamann examined these connections in her book Hitler’s Vienna (Hitlers Wien, 1996) in more detail; the results of her investigations are summarised below.

Hitler sold his paintings almost exclusively to Jewish dealers: Morgenstern, Landsberger and Altenberg. The master glazier Samuel Morgenstern was his most consistent buyer. The art dealer Peter Jahn, who later searched for Hitler’s artwork on behalf of the NSDAP, attested to the extremely good relationship between Hitler and Morgenstern. Morgenstern introduced the young painter to private clients, including the Jewish lawyer Dr Joseph Feingold, who also became a patron. Not only could Altenberg not remember Hitler making any anti-Semitic statements, he in fact asserts that Hitler seems to have preferred Jewish dealers. Hitler’s men’s hostel friend Hanisch recalled that Hitler had often said that ‘you can do business with the Jews because they’re the only ones prepared to take a risk’.1 Hansich’s statement is confirmed by an anonymous resident at the hostel in the spring of 1912: ‘Hitler got on extremely well with Jews, and once said they were a clever people who stick together better than the Germans.2’

Hitler’s best friend during his time at the men’s hostel was a Jewish copper polisher named Joseph Neumann, with whom Hitler once disappeared for a week. Another Jewish resident, Siegfried Löffner, took Hitler’s side when he felt conned by another (non-Jewish) resident, and reported the incident to the police. Hitler also maintained a friendly relationship with the one-eyed Jewish locksmith Simon Robinson, which led Robinson to support Hitler using money from his disability allowance. Rudolf Redlich from Moravia was another Jewish friend of Hitler. While Hitler was still living with August Kubizek, his roommate took him along to a family music evening held by an affluent Jewish family called the Jahodas. Afterwards, Hitler had only positive comments to make about his hosts and absolutely nothing critical to say. The Jewish general practitioner from Linz, Dr Bloch, who treated Hitler’s mother, received hand-painted postcards from Hitler for years on which Hitler expressed his gratitude. As the status of Jews deteriorated dramatically under the Nazi campaign of terror, Dr Bloch managed to get a petition through to Imperial Chancellor Hitler. Hitler responded immediately and prevented the doctor and his wife from being taken to a collection camp. In 1940, Dr Bloch and his wife emigrated to the USA. As his medical degree was not recognised there, Dr Bloch was no longer able to work as a doctor, and he died penniless and far from home in the Bronx in New York in 1945.3

Samuel Morgenstern was less ‘fortunate’. The reliable art buyer and patron of the homeless Hitler wrote to the Imperial Chancellery in 1939 to ask for help. ‘On 10 November, my business was closed as a result of legal measures and my trading license simultaneously withdrawn, thereby leaving me entirely without means [...] I am sixty-four years old, my wife is sixty, we have been dependent on public generosity for many months and intend to emigrate to find jobs abroad [...] My humblest request to Your Excellency is to have it decreed that the Property Trading Office grant a small remuneration to me in foreign currency for my unencumbered property in District 21, which by official estimate is worth R.M.4,000.00, in return for ceding said property to the State, so that I may produce the required landing funds and live modestly with my wife until we obtain jobs.’4 The letter did not reach Hitler. Morgenstern and his wife were taken to a collection camp and deported to the ghetto of Litzmannstadt (Lodz) in 1941. Together with 160,000 local Jews, 20,000 Jews from Germany and 5,000 Roma gypsies from Burgenland the Morgensterns were packed in unbearably cramped conditions. In 1943, Samuel Morgenstern died of exhaustion. His wife was deported to Auschwitz extermination camp in 1944. Two years later she was declared dead at the request of her brother.5

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Definitely another nail in the coffin for the Zionazis collaboration, good research Gaia...of course stalkers fuming..why do some hate the truth?

Dunno about Himmler being Jewish or part of it tho??..he seems to be the only Nazi who had an issue & called out Jewish Nazi.

Thanks.

Yes, good point about Himmler. He however was part of an occult society (like all of 'em).

As a youngster, he dreamed of emigrating to... South America. Peru in his case. So did he "commit suicide" in Allied custody? Probably not, eh?The 2nd biggest Nazionist fish and the biggest "alive" (Dolfy was also of course, or you'd have to believe stoopid Soviet stories)... I don't think so. Probably enjoyed some pisco and ceviche in the 1950s...

So much connections between Argentina Nazis, Vatican & Israel..specially with Mengele who Mossad ignored.
Apparently Argentina has the biggest population of Jews in South America.

I gotta pop out but will post some more evidence later...as always theres tons more to find on this topic. :chuckle: :up:
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Definitely another nail in the coffin for the Zionazis collaboration, good research Gaia...of course stalkers fuming..why do some hate the truth?

Dunno about Himmler being Jewish or part of it tho??..he seems to be the only Nazi who had an issue & called out Jewish Nazi.

Thanks.

Yes, good point about Himmler. He however was part of an occult society (like all of 'em).

As a youngster, he dreamed of emigrating to... South America. Peru in his case. So did he "commit suicide" in Allied custody? Probably not, eh?The 2nd biggest Nazionist fish and the biggest "alive" (Dolfy was also of course, or you'd have to believe stoopid Soviet stories)... I don't think so. Probably enjoyed some pisco and ceviche in the 1950s...

I been reading also how Nazis didnt get rid of the lodges in Germany, only certain types of lodges, & yeah all the Thule lot were linked directly with Masonry.

The Frederick the Great Association

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_brotherhoodss12.htm



Worth further research. :up:
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I think its pretty obvious Goering was a crypto Jew, he had a Swiss Banking Jewish background. He also had a Jewish godfather who was also a banker...his fathers best friend, what a coincidence. :facepalm:

His wife Emmy again was obvious Jewish "Sonnemann."

His brother Albert was apparently a Martyr to save Jews in Germany too.

I think he stinks of Jew.

They all stink of Jew.

I only met a few Jews in my time..Hitler was surrounded by them all his life!
Thats not an exaggeration.
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Definitely another nail in the coffin for the Zionazis collaboration, good research Gaia...of course stalkers fuming..why do some hate the truth?

Dunno about Himmler being Jewish or part of it tho??..he seems to be the only Nazi who had an issue & called out Jewish Nazi.

Thanks.

Yes, good point about Himmler. He however was part of an occult society (like all of 'em).

As a youngster, he dreamed of emigrating to... South America. Peru in his case. So did he "commit suicide" in Allied custody? Probably not, eh?The 2nd biggest Nazionist fish and the biggest "alive" (Dolfy was also of course, or you'd have to believe stoopid Soviet stories)... I don't think so. Probably enjoyed some pisco and ceviche in the 1950s...

I been reading also how Nazis didnt get rid of the lodges in Germany, only certain types of lodges, & yeah all the Thule lot were linked directly with Masonry.

The Frederick the Great Association

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_brotherhoodss12.htm



Worth further research. :up:

"It was followed by an article from the Nationale Zeitung, Essen, dated March 30 [=33], 1933, declaring The Grand Lodge of Saxony [at Dresden] sent a telegram expressing its faithful support to Dr. Goebbels The three [Berlin] Grand Lodges even sent a congratulatory address to the Reich chancellor Hitler. "

Right!

Indeed, good stuff, need to park it for later. The piece about young Hitler was good!
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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 19 Jul 2018 16:57 #135

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I never bought all the son of a Rothschild stuff from "I am the witness" Daryl Smith's site I used to read... coz he was calling AJ out back in what 2003? as a Zio shill.
Only when Gaia brought up these Nazi having Jewish links I started to look..
Jewfest CONfirmed! :nono:
I posted all the evidence in Gaias thread its there go & refute it.

I'll give you a bit of background on my journey into this.

I watched Holocaust Story material years ago and that opened my eyes a lot already. Then later I dived deeper into it and came to the obvious conclusion that the Story doesn't make sense. Treblinka is really the silliest; Auschwitz ("joke" in German) is the Disneyland for the Story, but Treblinka is the Sandy Hook.

But, from that position, a new unavoidable question had to be asked: "if millions of people were not gassed to death and turned into lampshades and baby soap, then what happened to all of those people??"

I asked this very question here at TZ and the residential Nazi lovers showed their lack of true research capabilities and interest, with "answers" as "I don't care". A hypothesis has been proposed at Inconvenient History, in general a very good Holocaust Story research website, but there it was also flawed. Certain authors uphold the idea that the "not so evil non-murderous Nazis" "transported the jews they didn't kill to the Soviet Union".

If that is the case, then:
A - the Nazis would drive those people into the lands of their sworn enemy, making them maybe not murderous inglorious bastards, but evil still
B - imagine how the mechanics of that would work. The Soviet Union back then was tightly controlled with lots of bureaucracy. How would importing millions of non-Russian speakers into Russian and related Soviet lands work? It's an impossible logistical operation

The aha-erlebnis for my thesis of NaZionism came, ironically or rather logically, with watching Dennis "Wise"'s video The Greatest Story Never Told. From that I saw how little sense their (counter)narrative made, on one and the other hand:
- the Nazis were the most advanced, highly technological and strategic masters of the time - TRUE
- the Nazis failed on all fronts and especially in saving the asses of their so-called Aryan master race, with the many bombings of German cities

Then I started to realize the Nazis were controlled by other forces in the back and started developing my thesis.

After that I found out that many others already had proposed this idea, so I came to a similar conclusion independently of other researchers.

NaZionism is the only logical explanation for the Holocaust Story. They are completely interlinked; there is no other option. If you see through the Holocaust Story, you have to come with answers for the burning (hihi) questions that arise from the analysis:

- Where did the jews go?
- Why would the Nazis, who were busy fighting several wars in 4 different continents (Europe, Africa, Asia and Oceania) go through that enormous effort of transporting normal, non-powerful working class jews of Europe to eastern Poland?
- If they do that, and hated the jews so much, why wouldn't they kill them then?
- Why were there no high-level banking, filthy rich powerful Elitist jews among them?
- Why are there so many ex-Nazi politicians in Western and Eastern Germany post '45?
- Why were there so many jewish Nazis in all ranks of their hierarchy?
- Why would the US embrace importation of 1600+ high-ranking Nazis into the US?
- Why did so many Nazis go to South America, Brazil and Argentina in particular?

All those questions are answered with NaZionism and this very thread thanks to our combined hard work and research into things ourselves, not just copy-pasting YT videos by others. It is very important research that goes far beyond other topics people talk about like 9/11, JFK and others.

The German and Polish people were hit hardest by this whole scam:
- the Germans were branded as Nazis post 1945 and especially in Holland that was enormous. Germans were hated very much, even decades after the war. Inside Germany there is a huge, for Brits and North Americans and Australians unimaginable guilt and shame about a past that not only none of the presently living Germans made part of, but even was falsified! The thesis put forward by Nazi lovers that Germany had to be destroyed and curtailed is TRUE. The point is though that the Nazis were not fighting against that; they were fighting for that.
- the Poles were first fucked by the Nazis and then by the Soviets (Warsaw Pact). Polish history was also very rich in science, art, etc. like German (or what constituted present Germany back then; the many states of the past) history.
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Porridge, another angle to the topic of NaZionism is what was the original early state of Israel in the process of stealing the lands from the indigenous mostly Arabs.

Kibbutzism is basically a form of socialism and Zionism is essentially nationalized kibbutzism or as a result national socialism.

The parallels are eerily accurate:
- socialistic, community-driven groups
- a centralized national "identity" spawning from religion or race or the combination thereof
- hostility towards "outsiders"
- a tendency for land-grabbing/Lebensraum ideology

While the many kibbutzes of Palestine in the beginning were populated by just normal honest people looking for an opportunity and social coherence, just as there's nothing wrong with Germanic communities wanting to preserve their heritage, the larger scale institutionalization of those ideas was the problem; Nazism and Zionism are the prime examples of that, just as Marxism that is; shifting from voluntary cooperation and a shared identity to enforcing those ideas upon others.
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Kibbutz were a socialist kinda front, but dont think racial religious cliques you can label socialist.

I would more label them terrorist training camps for world revolution.
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Kibbutz were a socialist kinda front, but dont think racial religious cliques you can label socialist.

National Socialism was also a racial religious clique. As they saw fit, they presented themselves as "Christian" or "Pagan", but clearly used symbolism belonging to other religious cliques, including Freemasonry, which can be described as a religious clique too.

Same for Zionism.
I would more label them terrorist training camps for world revolution.

Just as the Nazis, especially the lower level cannon fodder soldiers and the many people kept in the dark by Jewseph Edward Bernays' student Goebbels' propaganda, I don't think the majority of Kibbutz jews were actively busy with "terrorism", even though their presence has helped that.

For example:

HaZore'a
The kibbutz is the only one in Israel established by the Werkleute movement from Germany. The Werkleute movement was a Jewish socialist movement that first sought to find alternatives for Jews in Germany, but in 1933, after Adolf Hitler's rise in Germany the movement adopted a Labour Zionist vision of joining to the Yishuv in Mandatory Palestine and establishing a kibbutz.

Look at this example, on how crucial the Holocaust Story was in enforcing Zionism:

This Day in Jewish History / Shoah Survivors Found a 'Kibbutz’ in Germany

Kibbutz Buchenwald was one of what came to be 35 pre-aliyah training farms in post-war Germany.

According to historian Avinoam Patt, coeditor of a 2010 book, “We Are Here,” on displaced persons in Germany, the readiness of large numbers of young Jewish DPs to move to such farms “was vital in informing the diplomatic decisions that led to the creation of the State of Israel as international observers representing the United States, Britain, and the United Nations weighed the desires of the large refugee population in Europe.”

Another nice example of the similarity between Nazism and Zionism, Jewseph Mengele would have loved studying these boys:

Jack Yufe, a Jew separated for years from his ex-Nazi twin brother, dies at 82
In 1933, Yufe and Stohr were born in Port of Spain, Trinidad, to a Romanian Jewish father and a German Catholic mother. According to Segal, it’s not known whether the couple was ever married, and their relationship quickly soured “as a result of [the father’s] ‘roving eyes’ and excessive drinking.”

The twins’ mother returned to her native Germany with Stohr and an older daughter in tow, while Yufe remained in Trinidad as a British subject. Meanwhile, Stohr became a subject of the German Reich and a member of the Hitler Youth, a cause he took on with enthusiasm.
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Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism 01 Aug 2018 20:32 #139

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Kibbutz were a socialist kinda front, but dont think racial religious cliques you can label socialist.

National Socialism was also a racial religious clique. As they saw fit, they presented themselves as "Christian" or "Pagan", but clearly used symbolism belonging to other religious cliques, including Freemasonry, which can be described as a religious clique too.

Same for Zionism.
I would more label them terrorist training camps for world revolution.

Just as the Nazis, especially the lower level cannon fodder soldiers and the many people kept in the dark by Jewseph Edward Bernays' student Goebbels' propaganda, I don't think the majority of Kibbutz jews were actively busy with "terrorism", even though their presence has helped that.

For example:

HaZore'a
The kibbutz is the only one in Israel established by the Werkleute movement from Germany. The Werkleute movement was a Jewish socialist movement that first sought to find alternatives for Jews in Germany, but in 1933, after Adolf Hitler's rise in Germany the movement adopted a Labour Zionist vision of joining to the Yishuv in Mandatory Palestine and establishing a kibbutz.

Look at this example, on how crucial the Holocaust Story was in enforcing Zionism:

This Day in Jewish History / Shoah Survivors Found a 'Kibbutz’ in Germany

Kibbutz Buchenwald was one of what came to be 35 pre-aliyah training farms in post-war Germany.

According to historian Avinoam Patt, coeditor of a 2010 book, “We Are Here,” on displaced persons in Germany, the readiness of large numbers of young Jewish DPs to move to such farms “was vital in informing the diplomatic decisions that led to the creation of the State of Israel as international observers representing the United States, Britain, and the United Nations weighed the desires of the large refugee population in Europe.”

Another nice example of the similarity between Nazism and Zionism, Jewseph Mengele would have loved studying these boys:

Jack Yufe, a Jew separated for years from his ex-Nazi twin brother, dies at 82
In 1933, Yufe and Stohr were born in Port of Spain, Trinidad, to a Romanian Jewish father and a German Catholic mother. According to Segal, it’s not known whether the couple was ever married, and their relationship quickly soured “as a result of [the father’s] ‘roving eyes’ and excessive drinking.”

The twins’ mother returned to her native Germany with Stohr and an older daughter in tow, while Yufe remained in Trinidad as a British subject. Meanwhile, Stohr became a subject of the German Reich and a member of the Hitler Youth, a cause he took on with enthusiasm.

I dont disagree with you Gaia, but we are just debating isms. Its the difference between labour zionism & political zionism, both have the same goal. Labour Zionist were more about Kibbutz I believe.
Like what is socialism anyway compared with national socialism..& fascism.
From what I read Mussolini's fascism sounds very much like socialism with the nationalist edge, without the unions, but corporations.
& Moses Hess the main player was all about racial national socialism (Zionism) for the Jew & Communism for the Goy as a weapon to dis empower, what he taught Karl Marx anyway..

Interesting read on Kibbutz & socialism.

www.jacobinmag.com/2016/10/kibbutz-labor-zionism-bernie-sanders-ben-gurion/

I do see them as terrorist training camps, as terrorism isnt just about war & violence, but leeching treasonous moles & spies, infiltrating, occupying their hosts & sucking them dry.

I read in the headlines today another Labour politican being victimised just for mentioning Jewish Trump supporters.
This country is so fucking retarded to not see the elephant now.

As for Hitlers socialist Jewish kibbutz friends he LIVED with! :facepalm: I found someone else he was very close too in his youth, when he surrounded himself with chosen revolutionaries.

www.porges.net/JewsInVienna/6TwoExamples.html
In 1933, Jahoda and Lazarsfeld divorced and Lazarsfeld moved to the United States. In 1934, Red Vienna fell to the Nazis and the social democrats went underground. Jahoda was arrested in November of 1936 for her political affiliation with the Social Revolutionaries, as the underground organization of the Social Democratic Party was called. Officials believed she was using the research centre as a front to maintain a secret mail drop for the group. She was tried in May of 1937, found guilty, and sentenced to three months imprisonment. She was eventually released on the condition that she leave the country - meaning her daughter, family and work - immediately. She heartwrenchingly agreed, and left for England. There, she continued her research on unemployment, and did applied work on civilian and enemy morale for the British Foreign Office.

With the close of the war in 1945, Jahoda immigrated to the United States to be reunited with her daughter, Lotte, who had spent the war years with Lazarsfeld in the U.S. Jahoda's first position was with the research department of the American Jewish Committee, where she studied a number of topics, including the reduction of prejudice, the authoritarian personality, and the relationship between emotional disorders and anti-semitism. Jahoda moved from the American Jewish Committee to the Bureau of Applied Social Research at Columbia University and began an influential affiliation with sociologist Robert Merton.
www.feministvoices.com/marie-jahoda/

Funny you mentioned Edward Bernay & Freaud..one big family hey..Yahoda speaks. :larf:


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Let us take a look at another (((suspicious))) Nazi.

His name is Kurt Knispel (KK = 11-11). Allegedly he was the most successful tank commander with 168 confirmed and 195 possible kills.
Kurt Knispel (20 September 1921 – 28 April 1945) was a German tank ace during World War II, notable for his 168 confirmed tank kills, making him the most successful fighter in armored warfare.

On 10 April 2013, Czech authorities confirmed that Knispel's remains were found with 15 other German soldiers behind a church wall in Vrbovec, identified by his dog tags. On 12 November 2014, the German War Graves Commission reburied his remains at the military cemetery in Brno together with 41 other German soldiers who died in various places in Moravia and Silesia.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Knispel

Knispel was born in... Salisfeld, or Zuckmantel, now Zlaté Hory in the Czech Republic
The town has a long history of (((gold mining))). First written accounts are from the 13th century but scientists estimate that gold mining there began already at the end of the 10th century. In 1990', mining operations were stopped as they were no longer profitable.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlat%C3%A9_Hory

Gold mining towns, especially operational for such a long time, were and are dominated of course by those who (((seek gold))), the Goldsteins, Goldbergs and other Gold Gollems...

Could that be the case with Kurt Knispel??

Well...
Polish Jew Stricken Dumb by Nazi Beating

A sworn deposition describing another of the incredibly brutal assaults of the Nazi storm-troopers was made here today by the Polish-Jewish citizen Knispel, aged 55, who, with his three sons, has just escaped from Berlin.

At three A. M. on April 16, he swears, twenty Nazis broke into his house, beat him unconscious, and took his sons into “protective arrest.” The sons were released on the following day, after representations that they were Polish citizens, but Knispel was forced under threat of death to flee Berlin with them. His wife and their younger children remain in Berlin.
www.jta.org/1933/04/27/archive/polish-jew-stricken-dumb-by-nazi-beating
Gershon Knispel (Israeli, born 1932)
www.artnet.com/artists/gershon-knispel/
Knispel Name Meaning
German: habitational name from a place in Upper Saxony formerly called Kniespol (Czech Knežpole) ‘princely land’, now in the Czech Republic.

Sounds all like a real "Aryan", doesn't it?

He didn't really comply with the strict rules of the (((Nazi regime))), but as we've seen with jewish marxists before, that was apparently no problem...
Foto en la que resalta Kurt Knispel por ser el único que usaba barba y pelo largo, no ajustandose al reglamento.

...the only guy who wore a beard and long hair, not complying with the rules...

Note that the site says "a forgotten hero"...
vchistorica.blogspot.com/2012/12/kurt-knispel-un-heroe-olvidado.html

Allegedly his body was "found" just 5 years ago, "identified" by a dog tag:
Pero desde hace años, hay comisiones de hombres y mujeres que buscan restos humanos, cavan en tumbas anónimas y rescatan cuerpos de soldados para darles honrosa sepultura e identificarlos.

También están los que, desgraciadamente han hecho una deleznable forma de vida cavando y vendiendo reliquias, medallas y restos que encuentran en los lejanos ex campos de batalla.

Así fue que ante los investigadores y esforzados arqueólogos del Museo de Moravia aparecieron sin esperarlo, los restos de Kurt Knispel, reconocido sólo por su media placa de identificación o Erkennungsmarken (dog tag), enterrado junto a varios soldados alemanes, junto a una pared contigua a un antiguo cementerio.

According to the his-story books, poor Knispel "died", just 2 days before his great employer, Dolfy H.... but that is far from certain as various ideas exist about his "death" at age 24...
Al día siguiente, 28 de abril de 1945, el Feldwebel Kurt Knispel (el guerrero injustamente olvidado), moría a los jóvenes 24 años a causa de las heridas recibidas en un perdido hospital de campaña. Existen ciertas divergencias entre la fecha exacta de su desaparición y los motivos claros de su muerte, pero las mencionadas aquí son las más difundidas.

www.guntherprienmilitaria.com.mx/articulo-84-guerrero-olvidado.php

But how can that be? Do we have other "war heroes" who "died" under "mysterious circumstances" to compare (((Knispel Goldtown))) with?

But of course, we cannot forget the HollywoodyAllenised story of Chris Kyle, can we?

The American Sniper? The most successful combatant in Iraq? Propagandised by that spook Clint Eastwood?
Christopher Scott Kyle (April 8, 1974 – February 2 2-2, 2013) was a United States Navy SEAL veteran and sniper. Kyle served four tours in the Iraq War and was awarded several commendations for acts of heroism and meritorious service in combat. He was awarded one Silver Star Medal, four Bronze Star Medals with "V" devices, a Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal and numerous other unit and personal awards.

Kyle was honorably discharged from the U.S. Navy in 2009 and published his bestselling autobiography, American Sniper, in 2012. An eponymous film adaptation of Kyle's book, directed by Clint Eastwood, was released two years later. In 2013, Kyle was murdered by Eddie Ray Routh at a shooting range near Chalk Mountain, Texas called Rough Creek Lodge. A former Marine with post traumatic stress disorder, Routh was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison without parole.

On February 2, 2013, Kyle and his friend, Chad Littlefield, 35, were shot and killed by Eddie Ray Routh at the Rough Creek Ranch-Lodge-Resort shooting range in Erath County, Texas. Both Kyle and Littlefield were armed with .45-caliber 1911-style pistols when they were killed, but neither gun had been unholstered or fired, and the safety catches were still on. Kyle was killed with a .45-caliber pistol, while Littlefield was shot with a 9mm SIG Sauer pistol. Both guns belonged to Kyle.

Routh was a 25-year-old U.S. Marine Corps veteran from Lancaster, Texas.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kyle

Keep it all in the (military) family, that is much easier to pull off...

"Coincidentally", Chris Kyle was born in Odessa. Well, not the real Odessa, but Odessa, Texas...
Odessa was founded in 1881 as a water stop and cattle-shipping point on the Texas and Pacific Railway. The first post office opened in 1885. Odessa became the county seat of Ector County in 1891 when the county was first organized. It was incorporated as a city in 1927, after oil was discovered in Ector County on the Connell Ranch southwest of Odessa.

With the opening of the Penn Field in 1929, and the Cowden Field in 1930, oil became a major draw for new residents. In 1925, the population was just 750; by 1929, it had risen to 5,000. For the rest of the twentieth century the city's population and economy grew rapidly during each of a succession of oil booms (roughly in the 1930s–50s, 1970s and 2010s), often with accompanying contractions during the succeeding busts (particularly in the 1960s and 1980s).

Odessa is well known for its Kiss and Kill Murder in March 1961. Betty Williams, an Odessa native, was murdered by Mack Herring because he claimed she begged him to. Her body was discovered in a stock pond several miles outside Odessa. Mack Herring was tried and acquitted for temporary insanity. In 2013, Odessa had the highest rate of violent crime in Texas, with 806.4 crimes per 100,000 inhabitants.

Odessa is located along the southwestern edge of the Llano Estacado in West Texas. It is situated above the Permian Basin, a large sedimentary deposit that contains significant reserves of oil and natural gas.

So from medieval gold to 19th-20th century oil and gas, how convenient!

Of course the real Odessa, in Ukraine, is one of the places crucial for Nazionism, as it was:
- a major port on the Black Sea
- a city dominated by jews



"Ethnic" make-up of the Ukraine in 1930. Black are jews, so Odessa has about 45% jews... to the northwest it was even higher.
Odessa (Ukrainian: Оде́са [ɔˈdɛsɐ]; Russian: Оде́сса [ɐˈdʲesə]; Yiddish: אַדעס‎) is the third most populous city of Ukraine and a major tourism center, seaport and transportation hub located on the northwestern shore of the Black Sea.

Following the Siege of Odessa, and the Axis occupation, approximately 25,000 Odessans were murdered in the outskirts of the city and over 35,000 deported; this came to be known as the Odessa massacre. Most of the atrocities were committed during the first six months of the occupation which officially began on 17 October 1941, when 80% of the 210,000 Jews in the region were killed [read: relocated]

Odessa is twinned, has sister and partner relationships with many other cities throughout the world:
...
Poland Gdańsk, Poland
...
Israel Haifa, Israel (since 1992)
Saudi Arabia Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
...
Israel Rosh HaAyin, Israel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa

Huh, Gdansk? Like Danzig, the city that allegedly made WWII happen, because of the "slaughter" on (((Germans))) there? Why would some Israeli small town want to be twinned with that? Ah, of course, NaZionism..

But what? Rosh HaAyin? That FAMOUS city in Israel?
Rosh HaAyin was founded in the 1949 near the site of ancient Antipatris and the """depopulated""" [sure] Arab village of Majdal Yaba (in the 19th century also known as Majdal Sadek). Many of the early residents were religious Yemenite Jews airlifted to Israel in 1949 and 1950 in Operation Magic Carpet. They added Biblical words from Exodus 19:4 to the city's logo: "I (God) carried You on eagles' wings." The place was one of the Israel Ma'abarot (transit camps) in the 1950s.

Notable residents
Benny Gantz, Chief of General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces
Gal Gadot, Actress - Wonderwoman...
Yishai Levi, singer

Right, a town I never heard of and I reckon none of the readers here either...

It is twinned not only with Odessa, but also with:
International
New Orleans, Louisiana
Prague, Czech Republic
Dachau, Germany

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_HaAyin

So the circle is round; related to the Czech Republic, and then even the capital, and to Dachau!

Oh those darn NaZionists, don't we "love" them for their spookiness?
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