TOPIC: What happened with the jews?

This topic is about a burning question:

What happened to the jews during WWII?

Some remarks:
- this topic is not about the so-called "real holocaust" against Germans, Japanese, Russians or others; it is to get answers to the question in the topic title (TT)
- this topic is not for shilling the Holocaust Story myth that 6 million, ehh, 2.9 million jews were gassed in wooden door chambers and magically turned into smoke without leaving 19 million litres of ash - Rat, your attempts will be removed
- this topic uses a set of assumptions:

1 - the Red Cross numbers of deaths in the camps are valid - 282,078 victims died in the camps of (mostly) typhus, for ease of the discussion assume it was typhus that killed them
2 - the numbers of the survivors discovered at "liberation" by both the Soviets (SU) and the Allies (AL) are valid - 130,000 roughly adding the numbers in the column below
3 - rounding off - 400,000 jews were during WWII in the 21 camps listed - typhus deaths and remaining prisoners



The question remains: what happened to the jews of Europe?

I will list a couple of possibilities I see, feel free to add more. We can look at the possibilities and try to estimate their probability after that.

1 - these numbers were the totals; all jews in Nazi-occupied Europe were taken by the Nazis, put into the camps and 282,078 of them died, the rest survived
2 - idem as 1, but these were all the deported jews, there were more in hiding in the various countries; so x hidden jews + 130,000 liberated jews survived
3 - in addition to the numbers of 1 and 2, the other jews of Europe fled the continent; to where?
4 - there were many more jews detained in the camps, and they were killed somewhere else, their graves are still to be discovered
5 - there were many more jews detained in the camps, and they were shipped out by the Nazis to Israel
6 - there were many more jews detained in the camps, and they were sent off to Russia; outside of Nazi territories and were all killed by the Soviets
7 - there were many more jews detained in the camps, and they fled the camps, settling somewhere else; where?
8 - there were many more jews detained in the camps and they were brought back to where they came from
9 - ...

What happened?

Well, as soon as the camps were liberated and the war was over they swarmed back into Germany and the rest of Europe again.

(General Patton )

With great reluctance, and only after repeated promptings from Eisenhower, he had thrown German families out of their homes to make room for more than a million Jewish DP’s — part of the famous “six million” who had supposedly been gassed — but he balked when ordered to begin blowing up German factories, in accord with the infamous Morgenthau Plan to destroy Germany’s economic basis forever. In his diary he wrote:

Similarly, he expressed his doubts to his military colleagues about the overwhelming emphasis being placed on the persecution of every German who had formerly been a member of the National Socialist party. In a letter to his wife of September 14, 1945, he said:

Despite his disagreement with official policy, Patton followed the rules laid down by Morgenthau and others back in Washington as closely as his conscience would allow, but he tried to moderate the effect, and this brought him into increasing conflict with Eisenhower and the other politically ambitious generals. In another letter to his wife he commented:

His duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their condition. He could not help but compare them with the French, the Italians, the Belgians, and even the British. This comparison gradually forced him to the conclusion that World War II had been fought against the wrong people.

When Patton saw how much destruction had been wrought on Germany, and recognized the communists as our real enemies, he was as devastated as Berlin it's self. After a visit to ruined Berlin, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945:

Excerpt from: www.subvertednation.net/general-patton-discovered-the-truth/

What about the queers, communists, Roma, JWs and the many others that were in the camps?

Thanks for the contributions.

Unfortunately little answer to the question. But probably I went too fast in my thinking.

There are many jews missing from the figures. People who are registered as "being gassed" in the camps, while we know they weren't, as that is physically impossible.

What happened to those people? Were they shipped out of Nazi Germany? Where were they in 1945?

Gaia wrote:
How many?

According to jewish data, jewish world population saw an increase of 5544 jews worldwide in 1945, compared to 1939 data.
Overall, jew population was at 15 million world wide, pretty stable.

Oracle wrote: Nobody knows how many.

And the numbers you quote are unreliable; page 96, thread The Holocaust, where I elaborated on that:




As you can see, the numbers are bogus. Many countries just had the same copied numbers for 1938 w.r.t. 1933, as if none died, were born, immigrated or emigrated, or at least the sum of all those changes would be exactly 0, for all of those countries.

The 45,000 jew increase from 1938 to 1948 in North America also cannot be right, just like the 90,000 decrease in Europe and the decrease in Central and South America.

These numbers cannot be trusted.

Oracle wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if that number has tripled nowadays. For every orthodox jew we've got at least 2 cryptos flying under the radar.

Flare wrote:
Logic is not really a strength of the jews.

Here we have a someone, who figured out the "holocaust" is a psychological weapon, yet he claims jews are missing, but he doesn't even know how many. Crazy, how some people obsess with this, and even more crazy these people constantly ask to prove a negative.

I really don't care if jews went allegedly missing, citing official number points to no jews missing, and jew population basically slightly increased, which is absolutely fine within 6 years. Gaia tries to create a mystery where is none.

One the other hand, there are still over one million Germans missing, not accounted for, they vanished, and their families still try to find out what happened to them. My family is one of many who do not know what happened to a relative.
I would love to know, and I have my suspicion what happened, but I don't want to say in public.

Oracle wrote:
I don't "claim" that. The records show it. The total number of jews who died from typhus is 282,078 as per the Red Cross and there were some 130,000 surviving prisoners upon liberation of the camps.

Yet, many more jews disappeared from the occupied countries.

They were not gassed, so where did they go? That is the question of this topic.

Nobody knows exactly how many.

So why are you posting here then?

From the replies it is clear how the MO of the Nazi lovers is; just deny the existence of many more jews who were kidnapped from other countries and Germany itself.

The Red Cross numbers are a bare minimum even if they can be trusted. Many names are missing.

Knowing the Nazis worked with and for the Zionists in various """agreements""", having similar goals and even copying racial laws from them, the purpose of the mass transports of jews from the various countries to the camps was to serve their Zionist masters.

What happened to all those people not appearing in the death records of the Red Cross is unclear, but in the light of missing forensic evidence they were not murdered in such great numbers. Transported out to the Soviet Union (ruled in the background by jews; Marxism) and/or the US (idem; Roosevelt and all the others) and/or some to Palestine (not too many as the non-existing Israel was small at the time) makes the most sense.

Falsified "diaspora" like happened many times in history before. Even the Nazi lovers quote these 109 times of extradition, but take those his-stories at face value. I don't; they fit in a millennia long scam to gain pity for jews and to spread them out over other countries and start infiltrating new areas.

Annabelle, what's your view on this?