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The Purposes of War 11 Feb 2017 17:48 #1

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Based on a short (off-topic) discussion in another thread, it seems right to have a separate topic about war.

The first question that arises when thinking about the purposes of war is: What IS war?

There is no real carved in stone definition of war. The "mainstream" has used definitions but as it's mainstream, it's always tricky to just stick to them; they are meant to propagate an agenda.

As an illustration of that, a famous quote that comes in different forms:
Peace: A period of cheating between two periods of fighting - Ambrose Bierce
Peace is just a period between two wars - Jean Giraudoux

The use of these quotes suggests that the natural state of mankind is "war". This is also what mainstream history "teaches" us by focusing attention on the wars of history, glorifying or demonising wars and their leaders, and retelling the long period of mankind as "essentially a series of wars".

But is it?

Isn't history, or better "his-story" not a collection of dramatised tales that is indoctrinated into our minds?

As a comparison; a soap series, pick any of them. Are our daily lives really so much filled with drama, intrigue, back-stabbing and curious events as it is told in soap series? Not really.

Same for history. 99.99+ % of the time people are just living their normal lives, the majority of mankind that is. We are not fighting, not planning intrigues or anything like it. It's just "boring" everyday business of survival and hard work; getting food on the table, raising our kids and socialising with other human beings.

There is no reason to assume in the past it worked differently.

The natural state of mankind, of the non-Crazy Apes that is, is peace. Not war. People can be fighting, but fighting is not war. If two neighbours are fighting with each other, none of them is going to occupy the other house, enslave their children and take control of a future money supply. Looting is stealing and is instantaneous, it's not a long term plan. Not war.

War is essentially a game played by psychopaths, Crazy Apes. A game with different purposes which I think are interesting to analyse, given that we talk so much about wars on TZ.

The purposes of war
Main purpose, the root of it is control.
A - control of territory
B - control of money
C - control of people

With as most important subsets:
A1 - control of resources
A2 - control of strategic locations

B1 - control of the money supply of an area
B2 - control of making money, using war

C1 - control of people directly (as enslavement)
C2 - control of people's minds (propaganda)

Examples all over:
A1 - most wars are about controlling resources. In former times the control of fertile lands, in modern times more about ores and oil & gas. Today we have a couple of wars going on in the world and they are all centered around resources; Syria; oil & gas, Mali; phospates & uranium, future (??) Iran; OIL, lots of oil. In the past, the colonisations by the Russian, European and Asian powers over areas in the world, etc.

A2 - most recently of course the occupation of the Crimea by Russia, but many wars are about controlling strategic locations. The US with Cuba, Philippines, islands used as military bases around the world, etc. The Bosporus by the Ottoman Empire, the Suez canal, Panama canal, Silk Route, Gibraltar Strait, etc. etc. In most cases related to geography and a recommended reading for this is "The Revenge of Geography" by (mainstream) scholar Robert Kaplan.

B1 - this is a topic mostly scratched upon re WWII, but the real root of it is yet to be discussed in detail. Let's leave it for a new and specific topic.
B2 - here WWII comes into play as the most obvious of examples and because it was so world wide. The infamous treacherous trick by the Rothschilds in "Waterloo" is well known to the truth seekers, but this methodology was of course not only used there in France/Britain in the early 19th century, but many times before ("religious" wars in the Early Modern Period, Asian empires, the US with the "War on Drugs", etc. etc. etc.)

B2a - making money pre-war
B2b - making money during wars
B2c - making money post-war

Examples of B2a are the war economies of WWII. The Soviets, the Allies, the Fascists, all of them have made a lot of money in the running up towards the "inevitable" WWII. Or rather those providing those forces with weapons (armament industry), logistics and materials (civil industry; clothing design; Hugo Boss), etc. Mostly jews again.

An example of B2b is the research and development of weapons. Would rockets have been invented if it wasn't for WWII? We will never know, but without that silly war there was no need to develop those things and money, effort, people and resources could have been assigned to meaningful, peaceful and improvements, not destructive weaponry. Also the sponsoring of war efforts by money lenders in the back, most of them jewish of course again, that affected all war criminals, including the Nazis.

Another example is the long history of colonisations and conquests, essentially wars by """superior""" Western powers against """backward""" """primitives"'", first in Latin America, southern Africa and southeast Asia, later in North America and Australia and latest in northern and central Africa, India and Middle East.

The roots of the investments of the "Age of Discovery" are (of course and again) jewish.

The Spanish and Portuguese efforts in mainland Latin America are well-known by anyone, but did you know the conquest of areas we now know as Venezuela and NE Colombia was performed by Germans?? Or maybe better called (((Germans)))?

B2c is very visible with what we talked about; the post-war destructed "build-up". Without destroying "old stuff" first, there wouldn't have been such a big motivation to reconstruct and develop afterwards. Japan, Europe, China, as examples of WWII and Iraq as modern example, Syria will follow in the next decade and will come out as a "reconstructed nice place" in the future, like Hong Kong after the Japanese invasions of former British "property".

C1, the enslavement of people to "the new rule". Happened everywhere and every time with warmongering psychos. The Eastern European countries who suddenly had to sacrifice their hard earned money and work to the commies, Soviet puppet states. The Dutch, Belgians and French in WWII who were rationed and where formerly they had a well running economy, suddenly were paying tributes to the Nazis and had to work for them. The post-war payments of the German people to Allies who destroyed their lands. Essentially the outcome of the Crazy Apes; "I own you now".

C2, visible best in the modern wars because we have more alternative sources to rely upon. In Roman times it's pretty hard to understand how much propaganda there was because we don't have written texts of the Visigoths or the Kelts or the Saxons. Now, with so many different viewpoints at hand the search is easier and at the same time more difficult because of counterpropaganda, compromised sources, new agendas, controlled opposition, etc.

But propaganda is and remains a very important and successful factor of war, even today where things can be researched, most people you'd ask on the street (so outside of the small truth seeking community) would just say that ISIS is a real islamic terrorist threat, or that the Nazis really gassed 6 million jews in non-existing gas chambers, burying their bodies in the Polish swamps, digging them up in the middle of -20 degree winters and burning 6 million bodies to piles of ash that reach to the clouds using impossible magical burners invented by Ze Ausgerottene Rat on this very forum last year. :larf:

Propaganda is needed to both keep the people of the power that is waging war in line and to keep them afraid of "the enemy", that of course doesn't really exist; it's the friendly Elite of the other party that is in line with the Elite of the war country.
Best visible in the Cold War. Most of us have grown up under this idea that there was a "kind of war, but not really" going on between the US/"""capitalism"""/"""democracy""" and SU/"""communism"""/dictatorship.

Comments read here on TZ that "the Space (and Nuke) Hoax(es) are not really important and just side-topics" are incredibly stupid; they are two of the main tools of the Cold War scare, fake, propaganda, not true. So to understand the Cold War better, it's essential to recognise those as hoaxes. And also they are on-going. The Nuke scare is not so active anymore, with some Nuke Reactor Hoax (thanks BakerStreet) """incidents""' like Fukushima as exceptions, but the Space Hoax is still very alive, unfortunately.

Has become a long OP and a bit longer than anticipated and more of an essay than normally, but interesting to see other views and ideas about this concept that unfortunately (still) is very real, no matter the amounts of fakery and trickery; war and its purposes.
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The Purposes of War 09 Dec 2017 17:21 #2

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The Purposes of War 31 May 2018 06:23 #3

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What I think WWII was (also, there were 1000s of parallel motives) about was to subvert three of the most intelligent, well developed cultures of the Western world.

There were basically three “factions” to be dealt with by the warmongering psychopaths:
1 – the Germanic people – and their advanced, well developed technology, art, literature, science
2 – the Russian people – and their art, literature, science
3 – individual jews – and their art, literature, business and science

The “traditional” stronghold in world politics has been Great Britain, for the 200 years prior to WWII (following the Spanish Empire that was number one before but in great decline in the early 18th century). The British powers didn’t want to see a strong Germany, nor didn’t they want to see a strong Russia. Both powers excelled in their respective areas and needed to be suppressed.

Then there were the jews. The individual, normal, working class jews of Europe were well-integrated in language, business and even culture (though may -or may not- have practiced a different religion). Also they excelled in art, science, business and other intellectual areas. Despite many attempts by the Zionists to get them to move to Palestine, they refused, having their local communities and friends outside of the jewish groups. They did not want to move to some desert in the Middle East. That has been admitted to have sparked the “need for a ‘good’ crisis, that shouldn’t go to waste”.

The black-and-white idea pushed by online Nazis “it’s Ze Jews!” is of course completely ridiculous. Yes, the big jewish ultrarich families have dominated European society for centuries in the back. They were scheming, tricking and infiltraiting (no typo) the diverse societies of the European continent. But the normal jews didn’t have anything with them in common, other than maybe an invented “ethnicity” or a religion. But it would be just as ridiculous to hold a common Brit responsible for the actions of Theresa May or a US American christian for the deeds of Trump/Obama/Bush whatever. Salomon the Butcher has nothing to do with Soros the Manslayer.

So there was a plan scripted (already decades in the making; those ultrarich families plan a century ahead) to suppress all parties:
– Russia by the commie terror
– Germany by the fascist terror
– Jews by the “Holocaust” terror

And it worked;

Germany was defeated, destroyed and occupied and split (the Nazis had a big hand in that due to their many strategic “mistakes” and their focus on transporting jews instead of protecting their “Aryan” German people)
Russia was already before put under the boot of communism, but that anti-Russian power was further strengthened with the Warsaw Pact countries and left for a new “war” later, the Cold “War”.
And the individual jews were also destroyed; ripped away from their homelands, kidnapped and shipped to all over the world and the Zionist State in particular and can rely on an “eternal suffering” to be used whenever wanted.

If you take into account the Eastern theater (not for nothing they use that word!), the other 2 big powers in the region there suffered the same fate; Japan was turned into the culprit for everything and China was placed under the horrors of Mao.

So all the higher, better developed, more intelligent and creative cultures (Germanic, Russian, jewish, Chinese, Japanese) were submitted to “the new order”.


Of course that didn’t go well with the online armchair Nazis I have been dealing with for the past 2.5 years:
truth-zone.net/forum/researchers-and-presenters/70000-the-impartial-truth.html?start=20#287982
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The Purposes of War 13 Jan 2019 21:42 #4

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As a response to Lizzy's post in the World War II fakery topic, as it is broader than that and on-topic here.
Lizzy wrote:
Gaia wrote:

All "sides" of WWII, Allies, Axis and Comintern, were funded and supported by the same bankster and industrialist clique; the Warburgs, Morgans, Loebs, Fords, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Schiffs, etc. etc. All sides came from Freemasonry too.

War basically is a game played by psychopaths, using real human "capital" for their sick games.

The purposes of war are variable, but always fall in the categories:
- social indoctrination/mass psychology
- money making
- technological advancement and civilian spin-offs
- strategic occupation of lands, especially focused on resources
- mass movement of people

WWII was the biggest in that respect, with the largest participation in mainly Europe and Asia, little activity in the Americas, and showing what those purposes were when you analyze the narratives and actions on the ground.

As in every game, deliberate losing is part of it, especially when the rewards for that are in the background. It is not only boxing matches that get fixed. ;)

The jews declared war on Germany in 1933 - you know that . I believe they were beginning to see Hitler would never be their puppet.

No, not "the jews declared war on Germany". Zionists at a congress with just 1500 attendants decided to wage an economic war. Those Zionists of course do not represent "THE jews". Just as a CFR/Bilderberg/other society meeting of 1500 people deciding "the US declares war on terrorism/drugs/muslims/Germany/whatever" does not represent the views of every US American.

Yes, those Zionists decided that economic war, but retracted that soon after. Both sides were played in order to get the jewish settlement of Palestine in motion.
So which wars were fought to be intentionally lost -
excepting that Korea and Vietnam were - winning wasn't the objective there - giving communism it's war bounty borders or the whole country was.
Which others - excluding Germany ? - which never fought to lose.

I didn't say "every war is fought to deliberately lose", but that deliberately losing is part of war efforts.

Look at the present;

1 - Gulf War I - the war was waged against Saddam, painting him as a monster using a completely fake "testimony" (Nayirah "Babies out of incubators" Hill & Knowlton propaganda ("PR") campaign, but was not finished. George H.W. Bush didn't bring down Saddam, but the US left him play on for another 10 years.
2 - Gulf War II - the US could have slamdunked Iraq in weeks, and initially claimed they did, but then a "new problem" was created, and a reaction and solution provided (the typical strategy); the Al Qaeda narrative, which made it "necessary" for the US military to stay in Iraq for many years to come.
3 - as an offshoot thereof; "ISIS". The narrative that some mountain fighters in Kurdistan were able to hold off the most advanced military in the world is of course ridiculous, but they keep this narrative going for years already.

In essence, a deliberately losing war you could describe as a "False Flag". Take for instance the Malvinas/Falkland War. Nobody in their right mind would expect that the Argentinian army really would be capable of beating the far more advanced British army, making the invasion and reoccupation of the Malvinas a kind of False Flag, staged for the British to come in and claim victory.

This effect is also visible in many staged coup d'etats in history (especially the 2002 one "against" Hugo Chávez, which was just a staged "coup" never to happen). As a version of that take the various so-called "assassination attempts" in his-story (US: Reagan, Carter, Nazi Germany: many, a.o. Elser, Von Stauffenberg -both jews-, the many staged ones "against" Queen Victoria, etc. etc.).

Or look at the "War" of 1812:



(warning; mainstream view, but you can deduct a lot from it)
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The Purposes of War 10 Jan 2020 16:58 #5

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Relevant as ever, with the expected Plan Persia in full effect...

War as a Hoax and Which Wars are Very Real?



I can completely live and agree with that definition of war and I think we are aligned in that.

Hence the importance to point out THOSE real wars and st(r)ay away from the theater show on the telescreens.

Haven't we learned enough?

I see roughly 4 levels of real wars, in increasing importance:
I - War For Drugs - includes human trafficking, the biggest business of all, and the main intended result of """wars""" - enforced migrations, you should count the Venezuelans here, all mandatorily and free of charge vaxxed (!!!)
II - War For Resources - everything from agriculture, water to coltan and other REEs
III - War For Strategic Positions - Globalism - Plan Patagonia is crucial
IV - War For the Human Mind - Transhumanism - the topic of my birthday Podcast, interested participants can mail to agenda2020 [ape tail] protonmail.com

The psyop propaganda of what the mainstream calls "wars" and JLB, TNG, DaveJ, myself and others so eloquently debunk, each in their own way, is in the end part of the highest level. "MK Ultra" or whatever name you want to give to the Freudian-Bernaysian-Goebbelian-Marxist-Postmodernist-Facebookist social engineering sequence...

Resources
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† Take No Gnosis - TNGbreakingreality.com

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The Purposes of War 11 Jan 2020 12:36 #6

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All the taboos and other things that a population would rather not discuss, they get suppressed, subconsciously they get projected but people don't want to fall out with their kin, it's easier to project onto other groups, and they likewise.

It does sound like a rather simple answer but that's how I see it, when people suppress the things that they don;t like with themselves according to their society and beliefs, when those things surface from the subconscious (as they do) they get projected onto people from other groups or countries.

Carl Jung talked about this quite a lot and used the term ''the shadow self'' iirc, it's when people don't want to take responsibility for their own thoughts, so they suppress them and project them onto others.

That's a habit that is bound to end with conflict, makes me wonder if that's one of the ways that a population is controlled. ie if taboos are created, suppression and projection are likely to occur, creating conflict with others. The knack is to get them all projecting in the same direction.
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There is a spiritual aspect of war that no one wants to talk about. War demands you break the golden rule. The golden rule is, "do onto others as you would have them do on to you". War perverts the golden rule into, "do onto others, before they do onto you".

If our purpose for being here in this world is to achieve understanding (which I believe is true), Then war is the opposite of Understanding It fuks you up spiritually. It keeps you from moving on. It keeps you eternally coming back (incarnating) to understand what you failed to understand in the past.
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Frothy wrote:
The knack is to get them all projecting in the same direction.

Television has played the largest part in making this possible.
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The Purposes of War 12 Jan 2020 10:30 #9

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peacenik wrote:
There is a spiritual aspect of war that no one wants to talk about. War demands you break the golden rule. The golden rule is, "do onto others as you would have them do on to you". War perverts the golden rule into, "do onto others, before they do onto you".

If our purpose for being here in this world is to achieve understanding (which I believe is true), Then war is the opposite of Understanding It fuks you up spiritually. It keeps you from moving on. It keeps you eternally coming back (incarnating) to understand what you failed to understand in the past.

I guess the positive is that it does provide a setting where one can see what they are capable of doing which might otherwise be denied.

Someone I know who served in the British army in Afghanistan shot two children that had been running across the enemy positions, he was just told to shot them so he did. He saw their young bodies later, it took him a few years after leaving the army to come to terms with it, at least to some degree.

He didn't ever think he'd be capable of doing that, it just goes to show what we all deny in ourselves, we're all capable of anything ranging from heaven to hell metaphorically speaking, but we chose to deny much of our capabilities, and instead of accepting and managing them, we suppress them, and they seem to appear as war.

The good person is the one that integrates their dark side, understands their capabilities, and makes a conscious decision of how to manage them, that's a proper use of morals. Our societies generally require us to hide all that away, thinking that we're incapable of such acts, well we're not.

Hiding ones capabilities away, and thinking ''I could never do that'' isn't moralistic, it's fear, imo it's all that suppressed fear which explodes into war, surely one can only be truly moral if they admit to their capabilities but use their morals to manage them, rather than hiding them away in the pretence of being moral.

Let's have an example, say there was a little kitten, I know I could easily kill it by stamping on it, but I chose not to, because it's no threat to me, and it's unethical to do such a thing in my opinion, thus immoral... on the other hand if I thought ''oh no I could never do such a thing, i'm incapable of such an act'' I'm not being moral, I'm just kidding myself along to please society, afraid of what others might think, so that fear is hidden behind morals, there's nothing about denying one's capability which is moral.

I guess war is a time when the suppressed 'dark side' is realised, my point is if we were encouraged as children to engage with our dark sides, we'd all be more mentally healthy and better balanced, and the likely-hood of conflict would be diminished because we;d be more honest as creatures and less snappy.
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Post Tramatic Stress disorder (PTSD) is the name of the mental disorder many war veterans suffer from. It's a rather insidious disease, as you never have the symptoms when you are actually doing the evil deed. It's only after the fact of doing or witnessing the evil act, when it affects you. Hence the word, "post" meaning afterward.

You can still function, you can still go through the motions as if nothing happened. It may take months or years for it to catch up with you. But it will catch up with you.

I got to sit through several group therapy sessions with war veterans suffering from PTSD at a VA hospital in California. It was the most gut wrenching thing I've ever witnessed. Grown men crying like kids, telling of the horrific crimes they had done against humanity. They were broken beyond repair. They were alcoholics, drug abusers, constantly medicated, their families had left them. They relived their crimes everyday of their lives, knowing there was never to be any escape.

I would love to share some specific examples of stories I heard in those sessions, but there was a policy in place that demanded, "everything said in here, stays in here" and I respect their privacy.

Regret is the emotion of sin.

Regret limits you spiritually. Regret causes you to withhold yourself when you should be applying yourself.

It is you alone who determines the magnitude of your regret. Thus, IMO the remedy for PTSD would have to be a spiritual one?
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The kind of question one needs to ask themselves in order to engage with their dark side (for the want of a better term) is, if you were given a pistol and told to shoot a young infant child, what reasons would possibly make you do so?

One could be that the child had a highly infectious disease and was in a likely situation to spread that disease.
Another could be to kill the child quickly because it had somehow been poisoned.
Not only that but I might even kill someone who tried to stop me,

I don't think I'd suffer PTSD from that situation. in fact I think this is an essential part of being a conscious creature.

I truly believe if people were encouraged to show their dark side, or maybe a better term is 'whole self' people would be less likely to give each other any shit, people would be more respectful of others.

If you think of the most heinous crime, making a snuff movie or whatever, we're all capable of doing such deeds but we choose not to because it's a bad thing to do, is the good answer, saying that only a psychopath could do such a thing is the bad answer, you can do a deed as heinous as can be if you choose to, but you can;t be good unless you know this and choose not to.

So getting back to the actual topic of war itself, it's about projecting these suppressed dark thoughts onto the enemy, what I'm saying is that if we have already integrated those thoughts and capabilities into our conscious minds, they then can not be used as a means to instigate war, rather there will be a more sensible conclusion , the subconscious can't in that scenario be used as a projection onto an enemy, because the suppression won't be there, rather there will be conscious rational thoughts about how to resolve disputes.

The best way to see your subconscious shadow self is when you project and dislike other people, as soon as that happens just pause and think, right what have they actually done that's bad? What danger are they? And own your projection, even reel it back in, that's when capabilities are realised, you realise you'd just done something dark and sinister, and now you've managed it.

The world could be a much better place with minimal conflict if those attributes that we all have are realised and managed, it's almost as if we haven't evolved enough as a species or something is holding us back. it makes humanity look like a bunch of petulant children who can't manage their own behaviours.
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I don't see war as a moral/immoral decision, its born through greed and power, lust in other words.
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Lux Interior wrote:
I don't see war as a moral/immoral decision

Forcing other human beings to die for your interests you don't consider immoral?

I also miss the analogy; lust is a temporary emotion, war is prolonged controlled destruction.
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The Purposes of War 13 Jan 2020 12:49 #14

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I mean I don't think the decision to wage war is based on any moral grounds by those who make it happen.
Power, money, control are the driving forces.
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The Purposes of War 14 Jan 2020 02:12 #15

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According to William Brambly (The Gods of Eden), there has to be a hidden 3rd party manipulating things for two different factions to make war? He gave an example....The 'god' Yahweh would go into the Egyptian camp badmouthing the the Israeli. Then he would go into Israeli camp badmouthing the Egyptians.

Maximum slaughter was accomplished by playing both sides against one another, and Yahweh didn't even have to get his hands dirty.
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The Purposes of War 14 Jan 2020 08:06 #16

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Is 'Yahweh' code for Rothschild?
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The Purposes of War 14 Jan 2020 16:57 #17

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Lux Interior wrote:
I mean I don't think the decision to wage war is based on any moral grounds by those who make it happen.
Power, money, control are the driving forces.

But why would someone want to leave their home and family to go and kill people that they don't know...

....If your nation/community is under attack then sure, but why do it for the reason of attack? In the UK it's like if you;re in the military you have a good social statues, people are proud to be associated with you, isn't that a problem?

How is going to some nation in the Near East or Africa to kill a good thing, what is there to be proud of? How is that making anyone in the UK any safer, if anything their putting the population at greater risk,

What tptb are doing is projecting darkness onto the 'enemy' eg ''Look how poorly the Islamic State of Iran is treating it's people and it's harsh legal system'' they refer to Iran as a ''regime''. However it's all okay in Saudi Arabia where they refer to the leaders as the ''Saudi Royal Family'' rather than a regime.

So the knack is to highlight anything negative and actions which your group considers to be immoral and taboo that has occurred within the nation that has been selected for attack. if your military don't get a feel good buzz from the public, they won't want to join up.

For example they had a referendum in Iran after the 1979 revolution and they voted overwhelmingly for the nation to become an Islamic State, so that's the way they want it, if this means they hang homosexuals etc, then that's their problem, The Western ptb seem to like it when there is a disturbance in Iran, any sort of protest where the police take a hard line response on the protesters, they want to show Iran's government to be immoral because they don't have the same morals as The West.

So it's like ''we don't like what you're doing in your country, so we're going to attack you'' and somehow this has been installed into the minds of people who live in The West as a good idea, usually it achieves nothing, in fact Libya is worse since Gaddafi was taken out.

So whatever the real purpose of the war is, the narrative is to make the enemy share 'our' values, and attend to 'our' taboos.
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The Purposes of War 15 Jan 2020 20:32 #18

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There is an old philosophy that says, 'all Men are evil because all Men came from a woman, they, by their nature, inherited the sins of Adam'. Thus, by being born, one is "inherently evil".

This is the most deadliest philosophy I have ever heard of.

If, Man is inherently evil, then it's ok to kill Man at a wholesale level, because, after all, "Man is basically evil", and it's our job to stomp out evil?

All war has a dehumanizing factor.

What could be more dehumanizing than believing your fellow Man is inherently evil?

This stupid, idiotic, piece of philosophy, IMO, is a psy-ops, a psychological operation, used against Man for an evil purpose?

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Excellent thoughts, thank you!
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