TOPIC: Hitler and NSDAP were just as zionist controlled as the marxists - NaZionism

^ So, now the complete National Socialist regime consisted out of jewish homosexuals and they even taped Himmler during his homosexual activities?



And your source is sourced by "Time Magazine" I see...

No contribution to the topic. Read the OP. Counter-information to the thesis is not modded. Unrelated nonsense is.
Gaia

Adolph Rothschild and the Masonic Hand (Shake)

But Hitler wasn't a Mason:

Occult Forces (1943) National Socialist Anti-Freemasonry Film



The anti-Freemason film is a valuable piece of propaganda here, the others are already dumped in the Cognitive Dissonance topic, no need to repeat them in this research thread.

Gaia

What the fuck??

So now you are deleting crucial vids which contain information that Hitler was not a Freemason from your topic I see?

That's quite unfair of you, don't you think?

The videos are nothing more than propaganda, where he he telling he is not a Freemason. As it is a secret society, a member telling he is not a Freemason doesn't say anything. It is an empty statement, especially against all the other evidence shown in the topic.

The video left is an informational piece. I've watched it before, it is a nice piece showing the ways of Freemasonry.

Your propaganda Scheisse you can dump elsewhere, like you do all the time and did to those videos. This is a research topic.

Gaia

look Gaia it's still a forum - not a personal blog - if it's not abusive - you've no right to exclude posts contrary to your perceived historical account.

Lizzy wrote:
I have that right.

And the linkdumps and videodumps in general I can delete. Flare dumped the same vids in another topic already, this was merely a copy-paste of that post dumped here. If he really wants the reader to refer to those vids, he can always add a link to that specific post.

Videodumps without any description, no matter who posts it or what POV is shown will be deleted too. If one considers a video worth adding, then the least effort is giving a short description what the reader will see and preferably points to look out for (min 3:40, you see A).

It is extra ironic that it was Flare himself who -rightly- criticised dots for doing the exact thing he is doing. So he's a hypocrite.

Further discussion we can have elsewhere, this is a research topic.

What do you think of the list of points in the OP? Knowing you have a sharp eye for fakery and distraction, I cannot see how you can keep defending that crazy Hitler Hero Story against all the evidence he and his Nazionist buddies were just as controlled as anyone else, especially the similar marxists. Even the propaganda narrative is the same "We fight for Germany!" [not] vs. "We fight for Mother Russia!" [not]...

Interesting videos about the racial (Nuremberg) laws of the Nazis that were aligned with or even sprawn from jewish blood laws. More docs and interviews in the rest of the playlist.



Among others Edgar Jacobson was a high-ranking jew, propaganda architect.
Talks about the many jews as soldiers, high-ranking soldiers and generals in the Nazi army.
FDR closing borders for jews in the US, to force them to go to Palestine.
Zionists needed a way to get the jews to Israel, who didn't want to go there, best way was "Nazism" - or "Nazionism" which would be a better term.
When Hitler "came to power", he left the Zionist Paper alone, while closing all the other jewish papers. - no surprises; of course the Nazis support Zionism, as they are born from the same source
First ship to Palestina to Israel left under Nazi command with a Nazi flag. - "hmmm, strange..., or not?"

"Nazism and Zionism are two sides of the same program." So anyone defending the one side is actually defending the other.

"Anyone out there who wants to defend Hitler" because "Hitler was so anti-jewish" - beginning of 1935, ship from Bremerhafen to Palestine, based on the Haavara agreement - Edwin Black, also author of the IBM work with the Nazis

Hitler never complained about the Haavara agreement, why would you cooperate with the Zionists to send the jews to Palestine? - exactly my point from the beginning and one of the main flaws in the TGSNT "docu"

"A lot of orthodox jews were helping the 'rounding up' of the jews" - the Zionists were happy to round the -ordinary!- jews up

Great points, it's a long docu (2:22), but worth it.

Ze Greatest "Hero" Evah bowing to Hindenburg...

Deanna Spingola with Carolyn Yeager and Jim Condit Jr - Debate Alleged Hitler Zionism Connections

archive.org/details/DeannaSpingolaWithCarolynYeagerAndJimConditJr-DebateAllegedHitler

around 1:33:00 interesting to see the strategies played out between Adolph Rothschild and Josif Stalin, both being Zionist controlled, but put up against each other [to sell as many weapons as possible].
1:42:00 good background on the "refusal" of Adolph Rothschild to attack the English at Dunkirk/Duinkerken and about Rudolph Hess in his England trip.
1:45:00 - what happened in Munich, why was he in communist-controlled Munich and not captured?
idem - what happened in the bunker; obviously he didn't commit suicide (what we've seen before)
1:59:00 - the Balfour agreement, important book presented on this topic and the wish of the Zionists to push the British Empire out of power
2:01:00 - excellent - Spiridovich, one of the best books about The Big Zionist Hand, recommended by me to Ze Baby before I came here, short book review and talk

5:40+ - All the ordinary people were the victims of 4 supercriminals, all led by Zionists; Roosevelt, Churchill, Hitler and Stalin.

Exactly. Great to see some sense against this "Hitler was opposed to Zionists" Story.

27:00+ Great talk about how the German people were first f*cked by WWI, then by the crisis and then by the NaZionists
31:00+ How the Germans -and some members here still- got brainwashed into believing Adolph Rothschild was "their saviour"
52:00+ The lies about the "boycott against the Jews", the Zionist boycott giving the NaZionists the opportunity to start "war"
1:28:00 Destroying Elie Weasel
1:34:00+ Impossible Holocaust Story - he named it that, but great to see he used the same words I did

truth-zone.net/forum/gaia-s-forum-general-discussion/67545-jim-condit-jr-wwii-researcher.html Seperate topic on Jim Condit Jr.

The Fake Legends of Adolf Hitler’s “Jewish Grandfather”

Thanks for the Nazi Propaganda, not that it addresses the real points, but what is new...

…and the Frankenberger story

In place of Langer’s failed rumors, Waite posits another false story of a different “Jewish grandfather” that had also been “circulating” for years, to wit that Hitler's paternal grandmother had been working as a cook in the household of a Jewish man named Leopold Frankenberger before she gave birth to Hitler's father out of wedlock.

But Hitler had worried that he might be blackmailed over a Jewish grandfather and ordered his private lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate his paternal lineage. Frank told the Fuehrer that his grandmother had become pregnant while working as a domestic servant in a Jewish household in Graz.

The facts of this matter are in dispute - and a very lengthy dispute it has been. The point of overriding psychological and historical importance is not whether it is true that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, but whether he believed that it might be true.

Waite then lies when he writes: "He did so believe and the fact shaped both his personality and his public policy."

No, Hitler did not believe it, and in fact Hans Frank’s entire story is false, an invention made up in the mind of a condemned man under pressure to “clear his conscience.” There was no blackmail letter from Hitler’s nephew Patrick and there was no Frankenberger family living in Graz.

The American Jewish psychologist G. M. Gilbert was sent to Europe as a military intelligence officer and was appointed prison psychologist for the German prisoners. He later wrote in his book Nuremberg Diary on p.19: “He [Hans Frank] and Albert Speer were the only defendants to show any true remorse for their war crimes …” He should also have said they were the only two who spoke ill of Adolf Hitler in retrospect, the former in hopes to clear himself before God, the latter in hopes to clear his reputation before his new earthly rulers.


Above: Hans Frank in confinement, 1945

HITLER’S TRUE GENEALOGY

These are the principal blood relatives of Adolf Hitler:

Maria Schicklgruber, paternal grandmother

Johann Georg Hiedler, presumed, official paternal grandfather

Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, real paternal grandfather and maternal great-grandfather

Johann Baptist Põlzl, maternal grandfather

Klara Hitler, mother

Alois Hitler, father

Paula Hitler, sister

Alois Hitler, Jr., half-brother (by his father’s 2nd wife)

Angela Hitler Raubal, half-sister (by father’s 2nd wife)

Geli Raubal, niece (through his half-sister Angela)

Leo Raubal Jr, nephew (through his half-sister Angela)

William Patrick Hitler, nephew (through his half-brother Alois, Jr)

Below is an accurate genealogic chart from Familypedia.com. The only addition that needs to be made is to link Maria Anna Schicklgruber and Johann Nepomuk Hüttler as having an extra-marital liason which resulted in the child Alois Schicklgruber in 1837 (see Werner Maser, below). But in all other aspects, it conforms to the research done and accepted by all historians and genealogists. There are no Jews or Jewish connections at all.



Werner Maser, a German historian and author of several serious books on Hitler, was described in his obituary in the London Times as “one of the first German historians to treat the Nazi period as a field of academic research.”5

This is borne out in his exceedingly thorough job of tracing Adolf Hitler’s family background and lineage in his book, Hitler: Legend, Myth and Reality, published in German in 1971, in English in 1973. He concludes that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, a German farmer living in Spital, in the Waldviertel region in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

This book and the information it contains has been available for 40 years, yet conspiracy theorists who want to believe Hitler was a Rothschild or simply a part-Jew ignore it. Maser’s investigation included personal trips to look through church and baptismal records, interviewing relatives, heirs, school-fellows and childhood friends. In the attic of one of Hitler’s cousins, he discovered material which biographers had been seeking for half a century, including large numbers of letter and notes in Hitler’s own hand.


Werner Maser

FINDINGS OF WERNER MASER

1. It is undisputed that Adolf Hitler was born to Alois Hitler and Klara Pölzl. Alois, however, was born Schicklgruber because his mother, Maria Anna Schicklgruber was unmarried. [Not an unusual occurrence in Austrian villages at that time.]

2. Maria Anna Schicklgruber was not a poor housemaid who worked for wealthy Jewish families. The daughter of Johann Schicklgruber, a prosperous farmer in possession of a well-appointed farm in the village of Strones, and Theresia Pfseisinger, she was born in 1795 and is described by Maser as a thrifty, reserved and exceptionally shrewd peasant woman. She gives every appearance of having been strong-minded, a trait that was passed down to her son Alois and her grandson, Adolf.

3. Maria Anna Schicklgruber’s brother, Jakob, purchased the family farm from his father for 3000 gulden when the father was only 53 years old. Maria’s mother, Theresia, had just inherited 210 gulden from her father’s total estate of 1054 gulden, so the parents felt prosperous enough to retire. To put the value of 3000 gulden in perspective: a cow at that time could be purchased for 10 to 12 gulden; a brood sow cost 4 gulden; a bed w/bedding was 2 gulden; an inn with stabling could be had for 450 to 500 gulden. As you can see, 3000 gulden was a substantial amount.

4. Maria Anna, at the age of 26, inherited 74.25 gulden at the death of her mother in 1821. She kept this sum in the Orphans’ Fund until 1838, earning 5% interest. By then, it had increased to 165 gulden, over double the original amount. Her son was not born until June 1837 when she was 42 yrs. old.

5. She refused to reveal the name of her child’s father, even though the priest wanted her to do so. Thus, the child could only be given her name. This strong-willed woman did marry, in 1842—five years after the birth of her son—a man named Johann Georg Hiedler of the village of Spital. If he were the father of Alois, Maria Anna would certainly have named him such when they married and legitimized her son, but she did not. That entry was made in the baptismal register at Döllersheim where they married, but not until ten years after her death! The one responsible for it was Hiedler’s younger brother, Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, in whose household young Alois went to live at the age of 5 years, after his mother’s marriage to Hiedler.6

6. So … we have Maria Anna Schicklgruber Heidler’s illegitimate son Alois going to live in the household of his new stepfather’s brother—his ‘uncle.’ Maser explains it this way: Hiedler, at this time 50 years old and never before married, may have resented and/or been irritated by the presence of a young child who was not his. But more likely, Johann Nepomuk, a much younger 35 years old, who was married at the time Alois was conceived, could now welcome his son, as ‘nephew,’ into his family without his wife becoming suspicious.

7. All reports are, according to Maser, that Alois was happy in his ‘uncle’s’ home where he had ‘cousins’ and a more lively family life than he experienced living with his 47-year-old mother and her new husband.

8. Maria Anna Hiedler died in 1847 at the age of only 52. Alois did not, on his own initiative, seek legal legitimacy. His birth status did not hamper his career, in which he rose to what was considered the very respectable position of a Customs official; nor did it appear to trouble him personally. He was known as a tolerant, modern thinker, not particularly religious. His second wife Franziska Matzelsberger had a son born out of wedlock when he married her and he accepted this son in his household. It wasn’t until sometime between 1874 and 1876 that he changed his name to Hitler. Hitler is almost identical in sound to Hüttler.

9. It was in 1876 that Franz Schicklgruber, administrator of his sister Maria Anna’s estate, made over to his nephew Alois 230 gulden. It was now that Alois signed his name “Hitler,” spelling it just slightly differently than Hüttler. Maser comments that the Schicklgruber family was no doubt proud of how well Alois had done for himself and saw to it that he got the bulk of the inheritance of his mother.

10. Rothschild and Frankenberger Jew paternity is ruled out on the grounds of there being no evidence Maria Anna Schicklgruber ever worked for a Jewish family in Graz or Vienna.

11. The Jew Frankenberger story: Hans Frank, who became Govenor General of Poland from 1939 to 1945, is responsible for the false story, with the help of an American army chaplain Sixtus O’Conner, written before Frank was put to death by the Nuremberg IMT [International Military Tribunal]. He concocted a story that Maria Anna Schicklgruber worked as a cook in the household of a Jewish family in Graz, Austria at the time she gave birth to her son. In his ‘report,’ this family had a 19 yr-old son. [Remember, MAS was 42 years old, a fact of which Hans Frank was probably ignorant.] Further, he said the family, named Frankenberger, paid a maintenance allowance to Maria Anna for 14 years [which makes Jews look responsible and honorable]. But the story is false from start to finish. Some of the main reasons are:

12. The Rothschild in Vienna story: This is debunked for the same reasons. Maria Anna Schicklgruber did not visit or live in Vienna, and there is no record of who these Rothschilds were, their address or other necessary information.

13, Patrick Hitler: Another rumor of an alleged newspaper article in the Paris-Soir in which Hitler’s nephew [by his half-brother Alois, Jr.], Patrick, described his uncle Adolf as the grandson of a Graz Jew called Frankenreither. Maser dug up this issue of that defunct newspaper while on a trip to Paris and found it carried two pages and six illustrations of Patrick Hitler’s story, but no allusion whatsoever to any Jewish antecedents.

COMMENTS AND OTHER FINDINGS BY WERNER MASER

1. Maser feels that Johann Nepomuk Hüttler and Alois decided on the change of name in compliance with the wishes of Maria Anna. The inheritance was given in the same year that Alois wrote his name as Hitler. The baptismal record continues to name Johann Georg Hiedler as Alois’ father, but Alois chose to spell the name as Hitler.

2. Klara Pölzl, Alois 3rd wife, mother of Adolf, was a granddaughter of Johann Nepomuk Hüttler and his wife Eva Maria [Decker], making her the niece of her husband Alois. She was considered his niece because Alois was a Schicklgruber and Klara was a Decker on the maternal side. Hüttler died in 1888, Adolf was born in 1889.

3. Adolf Hitler’s maternal grandfather was Johann Baptist Põlzl, a farmer living in Spital. His paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, also a Spital farmer. Maser says that there is a distinct family resemblance between all the relations in Spital who are descended from Hüttler, and some of them bear a strong resemblance to Adolf Hitler. Hitler visited Spital in 1905, 1906 and 1908, and several times when on leave during the First World War. He knew his relatives and a great deal about his family history.

Endnotes

1. http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/shaw-hovannisian.htm

The methods used by the Armenian nationalist groups to secure foreign intervention at this time were very well documented by the distinguished Harvard University diplomatic historian, the late William L. Langer, in Diplomacy of Imperialism (2d ed.; New York, 1956), on the basis of Armenian as well as Western reports, and without any use of Turkish sources. Thus he found in the British Parliamentary Papers (Turkey No. 10, 1879, nos. 45 and 62 and Turkey No. 7, 1880, no. 3) statements from the British ambassador in June and July, 1879, such as ‘The same intrigues are now being carried on in Asia Minor to establish an Armenian nationality and to bring about a state of things which may give rise to a Christian outcry and European interference’ (p. 153).

Langer reports (p. 157) that Revolutionary placards were being posted in the cities, and there were not a few cases of the blackmailing of wealthy Armenians, who were forced to contribute to the cause. Europeans in Turkey were agreed that the immediate aim of the agitators was to incite disorder, bring about inhuman reprisals, and so provoke the intervention of the powers. For that reason, it was said, they operated by preference in areas where the Armenians were in a hopeless minority, so that the reprisals would be certain.

Langer concluded (p. 163) that ‘Enough has been said above to make unnecessary any further reference here to the Hentchak and its program and methods. The leaders were quite prepared to have thousands of their fellow-countrymen massacred in order to force intervention by the European powers and in order to raise from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire a new Armenian socialist state.’

Langer states: “Mr. Herbert, the British chargé, appreciated the provocation to the Turks. Mr. Hume-Beaman, an expert on things oriental, roundly declared that every member of the Armenian committees should be hanged, and that the responsibilities for the massacres rested divided between these cowardly committees and the ‘braggart and ineffectual intervention of Europe’.” (Langer, pp. 324-325]

2. This is the first mention of “Jewish godparents.” They appear out of the blue as a “guess” by Langer. The intention is clearly to show Jews as good, compassionate and upstanding people who “saw through” the good-for-nothing Hitler—placing Jews in the superior position morally, financially and educationally.

3. One of Langer’s “informants” who was employed by Hitler in Vienna as an agent for selling his paintings. Their business relationship lasted for 8 months. At that time, Hitler took Hanisch to court for not turning over the money he owed Hitler. Hanisch was found guilty and spent a very short time in jail.

4. Walter C. Langer, The Mind of Adolf Hitler, Basic Books, 1972, pg.111-113.

5. In his book on the Nuremberg Tribunals, Trial of a Nation, Maser alleged that Hitler’s architect, Albert Speer, who was given only a prison sentence by the tribunal, made a secret deal with the chief American prosecutor Robert H. Jackson.

6. The father of Johann Georg Hiedler, born 1792 and Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, born 1807 was Martin Hiedler, born 1762. Johann Nepomuk chose to spell the name Hüttler, or perhaps it was an error by a priest or cleric.

carolynyeager.net/fake-legends-adolf-hitler%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cjewish-grandfather%E2%80%9D

@ 01:19:45 Jim Condit says there is no proof for Hitler being jewish:

archive.org/details/DeannaSpingolaWithCarolynYeagerAndJimConditJr-DebateAllegedHitler

Whatever his ethnic background or his affinities, does it make any sense that The Jews would spread a rumour that he was one of them? How would that work in their favour? Sounds more like something a fanatical muslim extremist might say.

ps. I get the narrative that The Jews wanted to manipulate Hitler into attacking them for a mass ritual sacrifice, so they could forever get away with shit because of the Sympathy Card, but I'm missing how saying they financed him, or he was one of them helps the long term cause.

Can anybody enlighten me? Or am I just too dumb and brainwashed to be going down these paths?

ragnarok wrote:
Good questions Rag.

Yes they would benefit from it, because if people would like and start following Hitler's ideas and 'may come to find out' Hitler was Jewish himself, then people would let go of it.

Why is another Hitler thread required?

This one already has close to 3,000 posts and covers this information given it was set up by hasbara trolls in the first place

truth-zone.net/forum/history/65789-adolf-hitler.html