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What to do with Germany? 03 Jan 2015 18:14 #281

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Zorro wrote :
''Yes Concentration camps did exist. It's a sad fact of war unfortunately. Jews were considered enemies of the state because typically they were the biggest supporters of communism.The Allies also interned many civilians as ''enemies of the state'' in their own concentration camps.. often without due cause. By far the worst of the internment camps were run by the commies. which made the German camps look like Butlins in comparison. How come you never mention this? After all this is the real cover up we're dealing with here isn't it. People have heard about ''nazi'' concentration camps and ''gas chambers'' for the last 70 years on an almost daily basis. Why don't the crimes of the Communist's, which were much much worse, receive equal publicity?''

What did they do wrong.
Why was their freedom taken away from them?
There only crime was :

Being a Jew
Being a gypsie
Being a homosexual
Being a mentally ill person
Being a political opponent
Being a Jehova´s Wittness
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What to do with Germany? 03 Jan 2015 19:56 #282

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:


trutube.tv/video/1847/Ethnic-Germans-A-Forgotten-Genocide-Full-Version


It is estimated that between 12 and 15 million ethnic Germans, including children, were systematically expelled, tortured, raped, put in camps, starved, enslaved and executed after World War II from 1944-1948, and later. Their only crime was being German. These actions were many cases government sanctioned and done in full knowledge of the victorious allies. To date, no one has ever been held accountable, and most do not know or do not acknowledge this genocide.

The following 80 minute documentary film details the plight of the “Donauschwaben” (Danube Swabians) and includes interviews with survivors of this genocide:

More background information and individual stories can be found here:
www.donauschwaben-usa.org/the_forgotten_genocide_project.htm

’The Destruction of Ethnic Germans and German Prisoners of War
in Yugoslavia’, 1945-1953
by Tomislav Sunic
www.ihr.org/other/sunic062002.html




From now it is official what your self-chosen avatar proclaimed prematurely:





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# 274

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Being hypocrite again ,ey Putz

There only crime was

Being a Jew
Being a gypsie
Being a homosexual
Being a mentally ill person
Being a political opponent
Being a Jehova´s Wittness




# 276

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There only crime was

Being a Jew
Being a gypsie
Being a homosexual
Being a mentally ill person
Being a political opponent
Being a Jehova´s Wittness




# 281

Cinta wrote:
What did they do wrong.
Why was their freedom taken away from them?
There only crime was :

Being a Jew
Being a gypsie
Being a homosexual
Being a mentally ill person
Being a political opponent
Being a Jehova´s Wittness



For those who still don't get it why hasbara needs to be called hasbara:

:right: truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63393-what-is-hasbara.html?start=380#145924





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What to do with Germany? 03 Jan 2015 21:34 #283

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@ Pfitz

Whats your view on "Pegida"?

One of their speakers made a highly suspicious statement, something along the line, "we defend the judeo-christian values of humanism"
RT reported. Total no go for me, they deliver the jew press the hollywood "nazi" and also manager to stir troubles between muslims and Europeans. The worst of all, many muslims know who the enemy is, better than many Europeams

And which German in is right mind defines himself a "patriotic European" first?

I think its a zion op, an attempt to control the coming storm, before they can't control it, and they won't. :yup:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furor_Teutonicus
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the lice are only going to jump onto other typhus victim

Prime example of holocaustianity mental issues, clinically insane, and utterly ill informed, a danger to public health if this dude was working for CDC.
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What to do with Germany? 03 Jan 2015 21:57 #284

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Oracle wrote:
@ Pfitz

Whats your view on "Pegida"?

One of their speakers made a highly suspicious statement, something along the line, "we defend the judeo-christian values of humanism"
RT reported. Total no go for me, they deliver the jew press the hollywood "nazi" and also manager to stir troubles between muslims and Europeans. The worst of all, many muslims know who the enemy is, better than many Europeams

And which German in is right mind defines himself a "patriotic European" first?

I think its a zion op, an attempt to control the coming storm, before they can't control it, and they won't. :yup:


Pegida is definitely RAF/NSU aka controlled opposition - abusing and exposing the fed up do-gooder Germans.
You surely know about the Franconian RTL employee who also gave an interview to the ARD?
This was only one case among we don't know how many "racist/nazi demonstrator impersonators" presented prominently by the msm.
Lutz Bachmann (= rivulet man) previously worked for DER SPIEGEL and is an ex-convict.
The VS/BKA/MI5-6/CIA/Mossad couldn't find a better stooge/agent.
"judeo-christian values of humanism" of course says it all, right in the face.


Yes, I also think it's another "zion op".

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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What to do with Germany? 03 Jan 2015 22:07 #285

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The o.p. was what to do about Germany whereas the bigger question IMO is what to do about power.
Power corrupts ,the left want power , the right want power , religions ,churches ,nations on and on ad finitum want power.
I am a newbie but I have encountered already either a bully or a sociopath on this forum. Whatever. What they want is power.
So, IMV, how can we enable that power does not corrupt?.
BTW the above bully\sociopath will not get an emotional response from me . Because I am in control.
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What to do with Germany? 04 Jan 2015 14:03 #286

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Gabriel hält Schwächung Russlands für "brandgefährlich"

Der SPD-Chef warnt vor weiteren Sanktionen gegen Russland. Kräfte, die den "anderen Supermacht-Rivalen endgültig am Boden" sehen wollten, gefährdeten Europa.

www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-01/gabriel-russland-sanktionen

I can't say this muppet is wrong.

Those who have until now dedicatedly served the enemy appear to come to their senses slowly, realizing they served literally the devil, and what the empire wants will have very bad outcome for them as well.
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What to do with Germany? 04 Jan 2015 15:27 #287

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PFIZIPFE wrote
It is estimated that between 12 and 15 million ethnic Germans, including children, were systematically expelled, tortured, raped, put in camps, starved, enslaved and executed after World War II from 1944-1948, and later. Their only crime was being German. These actions were many cases government sanctioned and done in full knowledge of the victorious allies. To date, no one has ever been held accountable, and most do not know or do not acknowledge this genocide.

The following 80 minute documentary film details the plight of the “Donauschwaben” (Danube Swabians) and includes interviews with survivors of this genocide:

From now it is official what your self-chosen avatar proclaimed prematurely :thumbup:
# 274

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What you do not get here Putz?
So it' is ok if Jews, gypsies homosexuals, mentally ill persons,Nazi political opponents
and Jehova´s Wittnesses were put in camps and were killed????
Why are you so hypocrite???

Their only crime was

Being a Jew
Being a gypsie
Being a homosexual
Being a mentally ill person
Being a political opponent
Being a Jehova´s Wittness
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What to do with Germany? 19 Jan 2015 10:31 #288

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Cinta wrote:
Their only crime was

1. Being a Jew
2. Being a gypsie
3. Being a homosexual
4. Being a mentally ill person
5. Being a political opponent
6. Being a Jehova´s Wittness



Typical lies over and over again ........


1. Declared war on Germany, many were members of communist/bolshevik organizations and had undermined the nation of Germany on all levels
2. Gypsies see themselves as relatives, siblings of the Jews and this is not far fetched, but they only were imprisoned if they violated the law.
3. Sodomists, who too publicly displayed their sexual preference and paedophiles were criminals who violated the law
4. Euthanasia was invented by British scientists and practiced in many countries before, during and after that short period of time.
5. See 1. and of course infiltration and agitation by enemies of the people / state were violations against the law
6. Unfortunately many of them also were instigating against the majorty, the people / the nation / the state and far from being innocent and the name alone of this sect says it all!







As a result of the "allies" destroying Germany's people, state, nation, economy, social structures ...
a crude mixture of all of the above are now the ruling class of the NGO FRG on still illegally occupied German territory:




REMNANT SALE: Memorial Site of Socialists


Loud Memory of Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg




Hans Modrow





WITH ANTI-COMMUNISM
FASCISM CAN'T BE BEATEN
by the DKP (German Communist Party)





Gregor Gysi, "victim" of the latest "antisemitism attack" by a another Jew in the German Bundestag -> truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/64665-exclusively-jewish-anti-semitism-scandal-in-the-german-bundestag-gregor-gysi-max-blumenthal-david-sheen.html





Katja Kipping and Bernd Riexinger of the THE LEFT





Petra Pau, Gregor Gysi, Oskar Lafontaine und Dietmar Bartsch





Petra Pau and in the background Sahra Wagenknecht





Gabi Zimmer, Oskar Lafontaine und Sahra Wagenknecht, thus the delegation of the EU-Parliament





Comrades in bed and in the political arena: Sahra Wagenknecht and Oskar Lafontaine





Source: Die Anmerkung - click for -> Translation
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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What to do with Germany? 19 Jan 2015 13:30 #289

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Loud Memory of Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg













LUXEMBURG LIEBKNECHT LENIN
NOBODY IS FORGOTTEN !
STAND UP AND RESIST





THE FUTURE WILL BELONG TO SOCIALISM








Source: die-anmerkung.blogspot.de/2015/01/die-anmerkung-auf-gegendemo-ohne-randale.html
Click for -> Translation
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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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What to do with Germany? 22 Jan 2015 08:47 #290

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Pegida leader's Hitler Facebook photo emerges



For Lulz? PEGIDA leader Lutz Bachmann steps down after Hitler-style pic emerges

''De facto PEGIDA leader Lutz Bachmann is to step down from his
post after a Facebook photo of the organizer looking remarkably like
Nazi leader Adolf Hitler – toothbrush mustache, pursed lips and side-part included –
was printed in a German tabloid.

Co-organizer Kathrin Oertel confrimed Bachmann's resignation to Reuters.
"Yes, I can confirm that Lutz Bachmann has offered his resignation and it was
accepted," she said. "PEGIDA will go on."
The 41-year-old graphic designer rose to prominence as the most recognizable
face of the Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West (PEGIDA) movement,
which started staging weekly anti-immigration marches throughout Germany in October.''
rt.com/news/224863-hitler-photo-pegida-leader/

america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/21/PEGIDA-leader-resigns-after-Hitler-pose.html



translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fikje.blogspot.com%2F2014%2F12%2Flutz-bachmann-scheldt-vluchtelingen-uit.html
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What to do with Germany? 22 Jan 2015 09:35 #291

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Oracle wrote:
@ Pfitz

Whats your view on "Pegida"?

One of their speakers made a highly suspicious statement, something along the line, "we defend the judeo-christian values of humanism"
RT reported. Total no go for me, they deliver the jew press the hollywood "nazi" and also manager to stir troubles between muslims and Europeans. The worst of all, many muslims know who the enemy is, better than many Europeams

And which German in is right mind defines himself a "patriotic European" first?

I think its a zion op, an attempt to control the coming storm, before they can't control it, and they won't. :yup:



Pegida is definitely RAF/NSU aka controlled opposition - abusing and exposing the fed up do-gooder Germans.
You surely know about the Franconian RTL employee who also gave an interview to the ARD?
This was only one case among we don't know how many "racist/nazi demonstrator impersonators" presented prominently by the msm.
Lutz Bachmann (= rivulet man) previously worked for DER SPIEGEL and is an ex-convict.
The VS/BKA/MI5-6/CIA/Mossad couldn't find a better stooge/agent.
"judeo-christian values of humanism" of course says it all, right in the face.


Yes, I also think it's another "zion op".

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SOURCE truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63386-what-to-do-with-germany.html?start=280#146008


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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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What to do with Germany? 22 Jan 2015 10:22 #292

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Pegida leader's Hitler Facebook photo emerges



For Lulz? PEGIDA leader Lutz Bachmann steps down after Hitler-style pic emerges

''De facto PEGIDA leader Lutz Bachmann is to step down from his
post after a Facebook photo of the organizer looking remarkably like
Nazi leader Adolf Hitler – toothbrush mustache, pursed lips and side-part included –
was printed in a German tabloid.

Co-organizer Kathrin Oertel confrimed Bachmann's resignation to Reuters.
"Yes, I can confirm that Lutz Bachmann has offered his resignation and it was
accepted," she said. "PEGIDA will go on."
The 41-year-old graphic designer rose to prominence as the most recognizable
face of the Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West (PEGIDA) movement,
which started staging weekly anti-immigration marches throughout Germany in October.''
rt.com/news/224863-hitler-photo-pegida-leader/

america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/21/PEGIDA-leader-resigns-after-Hitler-pose.html



translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fikje.blogspot.com%2F2014%2F12%2Flutz-bachmann-scheldt-vluchtelingen-uit.html

:larf:

What a picture :D
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What to do with Germany? 22 Jan 2015 10:31 #293

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@ Pfitz

Whats your view on "Pegida"?

One of their speakers made a highly suspicious statement, something along the line, "we defend the judeo-christian values of humanism"
RT reported. Total no go for me, they deliver the jew press the hollywood "nazi" and also manager to stir troubles between muslims and Europeans. The worst of all, many muslims know who the enemy is, better than many Europeams

And which German in is right mind defines himself a "patriotic European" first?

I think its a zion op, an attempt to control the coming storm, before they can't control it, and they won't. :yup:



Pegida is definitely RAF/NSU aka controlled opposition - abusing and exposing the fed up do-gooder Germans.
You surely know about the Franconian RTL employee who also gave an interview to the ARD?
This was only one case among we don't know how many "racist/nazi demonstrator impersonators" presented prominently by the msm.
Lutz Bachmann (= rivulet man) previously worked for DER SPIEGEL and is an ex-convict.
The VS/BKA/MI5-6/CIA/Mossad couldn't find a better stooge/agent.
"judeo-christian values of humanism" of course says it all, right in the face.


Yes, I also think it's another "zion op".

.


SOURCE truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63386-what-to-do-with-germany.html?start=280#146008


:yup:

Funny as fuck from pinky and perky :larf:

Every party is controlled oppostion, every group is infiltrated by the jooooowwwwwssss :facepalm:

Pfizzzi wrote
"As a result of the "allies" destroying Germany's people, state, nation, economy, social structures ...
a crude mixture of all of the above are now the ruling class of the NGO FRG on still illegally occupied German territory:"

Get a good Jewish lawyer, they will take the case on a no win no fee clause, make fucking hundreds of millions of $$$$$$$$,(they love money apparently) because according to the little " I WOULD BLOW ADOLF" click on here , there is no ceasefire, an illegall government is in place and Germany is illegally occupied :larf: :iitm:

With all the documents you keep putting on here, its what is called an Open and Shut case in your favour :twitch: :ponda: :larf:
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What to do with Germany? 22 Jan 2015 19:26 #294

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Cinta wrote:
Pegida leader's Hitler Facebook photo emerges



For Lulz? PEGIDA leader Lutz Bachmann steps down after Hitler-style pic emerges

''De facto PEGIDA leader Lutz Bachmann is to step down from his
post after a Facebook photo of the organizer looking remarkably like
Nazi leader Adolf Hitler – toothbrush mustache, pursed lips and side-part included –
was printed in a German tabloid.

Co-organizer Kathrin Oertel confrimed Bachmann's resignation to Reuters.
"Yes, I can confirm that Lutz Bachmann has offered his resignation and it was
accepted," she said. "PEGIDA will go on."
The 41-year-old graphic designer rose to prominence as the most recognizable
face of the Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West (PEGIDA) movement,
which started staging weekly anti-immigration marches throughout Germany in October.''
rt.com/news/224863-hitler-photo-pegida-leader/

america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/21/PEGIDA-leader-resigns-after-Hitler-pose.html



translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fikje.blogspot.com%2F2014%2F12%2Flutz-bachmann-scheldt-vluchtelingen-uit.html

:larf:

What a picture :D

''The image of Mr. Bachmann posing as Hitler was spotted by a reader of the
Morgenpost newspaper in Dresden, along with screenshots of earlier
Facebook updates in which Mr. Bachmann appeared to praise the Ku Klux Klan
and referred to immigrants as “cattle,” “brutes” and “trash.”
www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/world/europe/german-activist-against-islamization-posed-as-hitler-for-facebook-photo.html





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What to do with Germany? 22 Jan 2015 19:55 #295

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Isn't it sweet (German: Süss) that the resident hasbara trolls - at least for once -
eagerly confirm the truth and oppinions brought forward by Oracle and mhs!!!


truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63386-what-to-do-with-germany.html?start=280#148934


PEGIDA is a zion op and Bachmann a stooge from the start.


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The Real Terror: Germany's Tolerated & Supported Next Nazi Generations

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What to do with Germany? 26 Jan 2015 20:10 #297

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Cinta - your never going to learn the truth - your brainwashing is permanent - how sad to live with lies all your life when the truth is shown to you.
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What to do with Germany? 26 Jan 2015 20:15 #298

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What to do with Germany? 26 Jan 2015 20:36 #299

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Cinta wrote:
Friday wrote:
Cinta - your never going to learn the truth - your brainwashing is permanent - how sad to live with lies all your life when the truth is shown to you.

I am very content with the truth,you see :
My THRUTH is Jesus Christ,and not a dead dictator
and his filthy pagan doctrines.
Who do you serve ma'am?

lies ooze out of you like putrid sewage - your a brain dead as brick.
Your too scared to see the truth -

www.radicalpress.com/?page_id=1314

learn something truthful

justice4germans.com/2015/01/07/world-war-ii-truth-vs-the-new-world-order/
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A Memorial for the Victims of the Wilhelm Gustloff sinking,

Jan. 30th, 1945 – A “hate crime” of epic proportions








Remember the Wilhelm Gustloff, 1945

The sinking of MV Wilhelm Gustloff was a “war crime” and indeed a “hate crime” of epic proportions, which the world media, court historians and justice officials have ignored, like so many others committed against Germans. Why? Because of blatant Anti-German propaganda. “German victims” does not fit with the standard narrative of the so-called “good war” and with the childish notion that most have been indoctrinated with of “good guys vs bad guys”. If at all mentioned or noticed, the information is quickly dismissed and forgotten as the years of mental programming overrides ones logic, human decency and compassion with a simplistic response “They were Germans. Who cares? They started the war, and whatever bad things happened to them, they had it coming!”

Thankfully, however, more and more are waking up and coming to the stark realization that they have been lied to all of their lives about virtually everything, including origins of World War II and the true agenda behind it. But for now, let’s focus on this catastrophe and the events which led up to it.

History’s Greatest Naval Disasters – The Little-Known Stories of the Wilhelm Gustloff, the General Steuben and the Goya

(an old IHR article from 1992 citing very old sources in terms of the data which is referenced, but still a good read nonetheless)

Excerpt: “Ignorance and even suppression of the facts of these marine disasters is part of the general ignorance in the United States about the great loss of life and terrible suffering endured by the German people during the Second World War, above all in the conflict’s grim final months. For the story of the unparalleled loss of life in the sinkings of these three German ships can be understood only within the context of the general situation during the final months of the war, when the advancing Soviet forces, eager to take terrible vengeance against the Germans, set in motion one of the greatest mass migrations in history.

It began in mid-October 1944, when Red Army forces first broke into German East Prussia. Spurred on by the hate filled calls to violence against Germans by Soviet Jewish propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg, Red Army troops systematically plundered and murdered Germans unfortunate enough to fall into their hands. [3]

One of the first towns taken by the Soviets was Nemmersdorf, in the Gumbinnen district of East Prussia. It was only because German forces succeeded in recapturing this town a short time later that the world was able to learn how Soviet troops had set about brutally raping females of all ages, and slaughtering the old men, women and children there. The fortunate ones were shot out of hand. Many were clubbed or hacked to death. After being raped, naked women were nailed to doors in crucifix positions. In one case, a group of refugees was crushed under Soviet tanks. [4]

German authorities lost no time in publicizing the horrifying results of the brief Soviet occupation. Journalists, including some from neutral Sweden, Switzerland and Spain, were quickly brought in to report on what had happened. Shocking newsreel footage from Nemmersdorf was shown in German motion picture theaters.

Panic-stricken civilians now desperately sought to escape falling into the hands of the advancing Soviets. As a result, during the final months of 1944 and early 1945, long columns of terrified refugees streamed into the towns and villages along the Bay of Danzig, all frantically waiting for boats that would take them to at least temporary refuge further to the west.

In light of all this, it was quickly decided in Berlin to organize a mass evacuation of civilians. As a result, between January 1945 and the capitulation on May 8, 1945, more than two million people — the great majority of them German civilians — were safely transported to the West. This second “Dunkirk,” which dwarfed many times over the British evacuation in 1940, was organized by Rear Admiral Konrad Engelhardt under the direction of Admiral Karl Dönitz, Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy.”
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Documentary:

The Sinking of the Wilhem Gustloff

A 45 minute film produced by “Unsolved History” does an excellent job of investigating all of the facts and even attended the scene where the Gustloff went down with dive crews. They then engaged maritime disaster experts who, with state of the art technology, produced computer simulations, and included eyewitness testimony from some of the still living survivors from that fateful night. They prove that the previous estimates of the lives lost were far too low, and they also validate other sources I’ve read (as shown in my graphics) that put the total number of passengers at about 10,500 and they put the death toll at around 9,600 (slightly higher than my other sources).

Furthermore, their deep sea divers discovered a hitherto unknown and very chilling fact: the Soviets later added further insult to their victims, and by extension to all Germans, by later returning to the wreck, salvaging everything of value, and then setting off explosives inside the wreck to cover up their crimes!





Sadly, yet predictably, the makers of this documentary film found it necessary to include the usual Anti-German war propaganda demonizing Goebbels for having told the truth about Soviet atrocities that had been committed at places like Nemmersdorf to make it seem as though these German victims of deserved the revenge that an “out of control” Germany had brought upon herself. Nothing could be further from the truth! As I have documented, Hitler did not war and he did all he could to avoid through diplomatic means. The war was ultimately forced upon us Germans, and it is high time that the full and true history be told!

The makers of this film (like most others) either portray Goebbels as a liar, or as having exaggerated the facts of the Nemmersdorf Massacre and exploiting it for political gain, when in fact, he was doing is duty and all that he could to warn his people, to save the themselves, defend themselves and their nation against the beastly Soviet Red Army / Bolshevik hordes. He was also telling the world about these war crimes!

Simultaneously, they completely ignore what Soviet Propaganda Minister Ilya Ehrenburg was telling his troops about the Germans, and what he was ordering them to do the Germans. Like most historians, they also ignore the fact that the Soviet Union was not bound by the Geneva or Hague Conventions had a “licence to slaughter, rape and plunder, for which no one would ever hold them to account. And finally, they ignore the fact that thousands of refugees from Germany’s eastern frontiers were streaming westward and telling of horror stories with “first hand” as accounts. The word was spreading like wildfire even without assistance from Goebbels.


- to be continued

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