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Divorce, single parents and step-families 15 Jun 2014 21:31 #1

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What are people's thoughts on these things?

My view is that the destruction of the traditional family (married biological parents together until death) is a number one, if not the number one, goal of the NWO, and has damaged our culture probably more than any other trend. I myself have never seen divorce or separation do anything but make a bad situation worse (or make an okay situation worse), and the people I know from broken homes are typically much more dysfunctional and damaged than those from intact homes (no, I'm not saying no-one from intact homes is damaged, nor that every intact home is better than every broken one, before anyone starts making strawman's).

So what are your thoughts on these phenomenons?

Here's an interesting little factoid for you too: The level of wealth of an area cannot be used to accurately predict its level of violent crime, but its number of single-mother households can.
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Divorce, single parents and step-families 15 Jun 2014 22:08 #2

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Timesarrow wrote:
Here's an interesting little factoid for you too: The level of wealth of an area cannot be used to accurately predict its level of violent crime, but its number of single-mother households can.

The ghetto has the highest number of single-mother households.

As for the rest of your post i agree with your points.
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Divorce, single parents and step-families 16 Jun 2014 00:41 #3

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Timesarrow wrote:
What are people's thoughts on these things?

My view is that the destruction of the traditional family (married biological parents together until death) is a number one, if not the number one, goal of the NWO, and has damaged our culture probably more than any other trend. I myself have never seen divorce or separation do anything but make a bad situation worse (or make an okay situation worse), and the people I know from broken homes are typically much more dysfunctional and damaged than those from intact homes (no, I'm not saying no-one from intact homes is damaged, nor that every intact home is better than every broken one, before anyone starts making strawman's).

So what are your thoughts on these phenomenons?

Here's an interesting little factoid for you too: The level of wealth of an area cannot be used to accurately predict its level of violent crime, but its number of single-mother households can.

I wouldn't say it's the "ultimate goal" of the New World Order. The ultimate goal of the NWO is a global police-state, HELL ON EARTH. But the erosion and destruction of the traditional family is definitely one of the main methods they use to achieve this goal. In my opinion, it's because the family unit is the lynchpin of any strong, decent, cohesive and unified civilisation - and it's been this way throughout history, and across the world. Strong and moral families build strong and moral communities, which build strong and moral nations (which are the antidote to the NWO plutocrats!). Inversely, weak and degenerate families build weak and degenerate communities, which build weak and degenerate nations...which are far easier for globalists to control. That's how it plays out on a political level.

On a social level, broken homes are nearly always responsible for causing degenerate and criminal behaviours, which are generally the result of psychological malfunctions and mental hang-ups caused by growing up in a hostile, turbulent, neglectful or otherwise inadequate environment as a child. It's definitely not always the case, but it's not common for someone brought up by two strong-minded, moral and loving parents to turn to crime or other vices which are a coping mechanism, to deal with their own repressed pain. There are numerous studies indicating a link between broken homes, dysfunctional families and suicide attempts (successful and failed).

They can't just impose their tyranny overnight, there would be insurrections on a grand scale. They have to chip away, from the bottom up, until the population is rootless and broken-hearted and spiritless and so they will either embrace, or not resist. It's ALL tied together, and that's why the anti-human agenda is so ingenious.
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Divorce, single parents and step-families 16 Jun 2014 00:56 #4

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Seaic wrote:

On a social level, broken homes are nearly always responsible for causing degenerate and criminal behaviours, which are generally the result of psychological malfunctions and mental hang-ups caused by growing up in a hostile, turbulent, neglectful or otherwise inadequate environment as a child. It's definitely not always the case, but it's not common for someone brought up by two strong-minded, moral and loving parents to turn to crime or other vices which are a coping mechanism, to deal with their own repressed pain. There are numerous studies indicating a link between broken homes, dysfunctional families and suicide attempts (successful and failed)..

This is true.
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Divorce, single parents and step-families 16 Jun 2014 07:42 #5

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When you say crime are you just talking about petty crimes or serious frauds such as those that financially wipe out entire nations? Petty and small time crooks aren't necessarily criminals because they come from single parent families that's too simplistic imho. There are multiple factors related to social conditions, peer pressure and education etc. There were plenty of criminals in the 50's and 60's and petty crime was rampant in Edwardian and Victorian times.

Many of the heavy weight criminals come from wealthy and dynastic families, but for some reason their white collar crimes don't seem to be considered serious or even criminal, when in fact they are off the scale and contribute to the social conditions that cause petty crime.

Poverty, social conditions, lack of respect for other people, low self-esteem and future prospects/expectations seem to be major factors to me. People are bombarded with images of unattainable life styles and unrealistic/unnecessary wants and needs through media, which cultivates low self esteem when the prospects of achieving those things is out of their reach. People are fooled in to believing everyone is doing better than them so they get in to debt or criminal activity in a quest to level up. Once they get the next big thing there is something else that they feel they need to improve their opportunities or lives and so the cycle goes on.

Poor education and corrupted values coupled with social myths and propaganda seem to play a big part in driving the decline. Strong families imho isn't a matter of having two parents, it's having an extended family, which spans generations, where people build respect and gain knowledge and wisdom within a secure support frame work of family and community.

I agree that there is an agenda to damage communities and communities are built on strong families but I don't think broken families are the only factor. We have been subjected to social engineering programs which have been created to cause dysfunction on multiple levels spanning all social classes. The visible effects manifest themselves in different ways poor families are more likely engage in petty crime and rich families fall into debt traps. Antisocial behaviour and disrespect isn't unique to any particular class the form it takes may differ but the combined effects at a social level are damaging imho.

I probably haven't explained myself very well there it seems a little disjointed. It's far to complex an issue to cover in any depth and rationalise it without considering a vast array of contributory factors which all eat away at society as a whole. I think it's easy for us to blame individual elements, which present an inaccurate assessment when isolated...mainly due to the fact generalisations are required to draw the conclusions.

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Divorce, single parents and step-families 16 Jun 2014 17:45 #6

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Frog wrote:
When you say crime are you just talking about petty crimes or serious frauds such as those that financially wipe out entire nations? Petty and small time crooks aren't necessarily criminals because they come from single parent families that's too simplistic imho. There are multiple factors related to social conditions, peer pressure and education etc. There were plenty of criminals in the 50's and 60's and petty crime was rampant in Edwardian and Victorian times.

I can't speak for Timesarrow, but I was referring to petty crimes and common criminality. I wasn't referring to NWO-sponsored mega-crime, which is a completely different subject altogether! Of course they're not criminals because of their single-parent childhood, but a lot of the other factors which contribute to why one might become a criminal are related to family and societal breakdown. In the absence of proper and decent role-models, children will take role-models that are less than wholesome and it opens them up a lot more to manipulation from external sources, mainly the media.

Many of the heavy weight criminals come from wealthy and dynastic families, but for some reason their white collar crimes don't seem to be considered serious or even criminal, when in fact they are off the scale and contribute to the social conditions that cause petty crime.

Definitely. It all comes back to the subversion of society for their own gain. Western cultural, societal and moral degeneracy is not a coincidence, it was all very carefully planned by "them".

Poverty, social conditions, lack of respect for other people, low self-esteem and future prospects/expectations seem to be major factors to me. People are bombarded with images of unattainable life styles and unrealistic/unnecessary wants and needs through media, which cultivates low self esteem when the prospects of achieving those things is out of their reach. People are fooled in to believing everyone is doing better than them so they get in to debt or criminal activity in a quest to level up. Once they get the next big thing there is something else that they feel they need to improve their opportunities or lives and so the cycle goes on.

A reason for this, in my opinion, is that they are trying to fill a void in their lives left by an unsatisfactory and unfulfilling, or otherwise dysfunctional, upbringing and family life. Some of the most materially poor people in the world are some of the happiest, because they have good, loving, stable families and strong communities. Doubtless these people have less of an access to TV and the Internet and other forms of mass media social engineering. I don't believe it's all about wealth, or lack thereof.

Poor education and corrupted values coupled with social myths and propaganda seem to play a big part in driving the decline. Strong families imho isn't a matter of having two parents, it's having an extended family, which spans generations, where people build respect and gain knowledge and wisdom within a secure support frame work of family and community.

It's not just about having two-parents, and it is definitely about having the extended family and community involved, but at the same time children need both parents. It's possible to do perfectly well with just one, but it's much more difficult and less likely. The reverberations of divorce or parental break-ups last for decades, and can damage a person for life. In the "old days", parents were generally married for life. If one parent tragically died, the community would rally round and pull the single-parent through. Nowadays, everyone is so isolated in their own bubbles, caring about themselves alone, no one cares anymore and people are left to struggle through on their own.

I agree that there is an agenda to damage communities and communities are built on strong families but I don't think broken families are the only factor. We have been subjected to social engineering programs which have been created to cause dysfunction on multiple levels spanning all social classes. The visible effects manifest themselves in different ways poor families are more likely engage in petty crime and rich families fall into debt traps. Antisocial behaviour and disrespect isn't unique to any particular class the form it takes may differ but the combined effects at a social level are damaging imho.

Oh I agree with all of that, and definitely am not discriminating against any particular class. You're very correct that the break up of the family isn't the only factor, but it is probably the most important. Dysfunction and degeneracy have a much harder time taking root in stable and strong families. The eradication of the family removes one of the main safeguards against those things. Have a look at inner-cities, where youths join gangs - how many of those youths have stable, loving, two-parent families? I bet the majority of them don't have an authoritative father in their lives.

The social engineering needs tackling, definitely. The problem is, most people don't even realise it's happening.

I probably haven't explained myself very well there it seems a little disjointed. It's far to complex an issue to cover in any depth and rationalise it without considering a vast array of contributory factors which all eat away at society as a whole. I think it's easy for us to blame individual elements, which present an inaccurate assessment when isolated...mainly due to the fact generalisations are required to draw the conclusions.

As always, there are exceptions to rules and so generalisation by its very nature will always be flawed. But it's the only way we have, like you say, to draw conclusions.

Yep, I've been saying for a while now the agenda is all interconnected. It's completely nefarious, but it's also elaborate and brilliant. It's not really any good for these groups that focus on just one issue, because they're all related and will live or die as one.
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Divorce, single parents and step-families 17 Jun 2014 00:08 #7

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The aspects of societal destruction have been evident for a very long time , told to us the last 100 yrs in all media form, witnessing it retrospectively is amazing , seeing the fiction I read 40+ yrs ago come true and lived the results of it. We know see military ex- Iraqi war tanks ( or as good as , cus they're in the wings) - humvee's if you like , that will have the microwave ability that won the Iraqi war - why else did thousands spill out of the sands with ear drums bleeding , only to be mowed down.
This technotronic edge, along with the cabals' control complex completed with the corporatization of 'our' safety protectors' , to private interest's ( the JEWS) these enforcers' are doing their masters' bidding and all decent cops will virtually disappear - if fracking isn't held back - the uk is a depopulation bomb , whose infuse is already lite , 'first' world countries will scream for it to stop, some screaming to their neighbours to keep the noise down , others' for food / shelter - so we see the spikes - got to PAY to sit on a park bench now?
First they came for our tribe - they were bedraggled with their feathers' scorched - we felt pity and let them in, ( ask Cromwell ) and the games' on, without the Britain in their pockets' it couldn't have worked out the same way.
The objective has been stated in about as many possible ways as is discernible and I see the f'ing lot just as anyone else (here)....
it seems also trite to me to bring up the Georgia Guildstones' - but it is all there - we just know who and why now.
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Two small excerpts from a much bigger and quite illuminating article by Kathleen O'Connell Corcoran, Ph.D., which I will link here for those whose interests have been piqued. Old (1997), but still relevant.

Effects of Divorce on Children

In the last few years, higher-quality research which has allowed the "meta-analysis" of previously published research, has shown the negative effects of divorce on children have been greatly exaggerated. In the past we read that children of divorce suffered from depression, failed in school, and got in trouble with the law. Children with depression and conduct disorders showed indications of those problems predivorce because there was parental conflict predivorce. Researchers now view conflict, rather than the divorce or residential schedule, as the single most critical determining factor in children's post-divorce adjustment. The children who succeed after divorce, have parents who can communicate effectively and work together as parents.
Actually, children's psychological reactions to their parents' divorce vary in degree dependent on three factors: (1) the quality of their relationship with each of their parents before the separation, (2) the intensity and duration of the parental conflict, and (3) the parents' ability to focus on the needs of children in their divorce.

Older studies showed boys had greater social and academic adjustment problems than girls. New evidence indicates that when children have a hard time, boys and girls suffer equally; they just differ in how they suffer. Boys are more externally symptomatic than girls, they act out their anger, frustration and hurt. They may get into trouble in school, fight more with peers and parents. Girls tend to internalize their distress. They may become depressed, develop headaches or stomach aches, and have changes in their eating and sleeping patterns.

A drop in parents' income often caused by the same income now supporting two households directly affects children over time in terms of proper nutrition, involvement in extracurricular activities, clothing (no more designer jeans and fancy shoes), and school choices. Sometimes a parent who had stayed home with the children is forced into the workplace and the children experience an increase in time in child care.

A child's continued involvement with both of his or her parents allows for realistic and better balanced future relationships. Children learn how to be in relationship by their relationship with their parents. If they are secure in their relationship with their parents, chances are they will adapt well to various time-sharing schedules and experience security and fulfillment in their intimate relationships in adulthood. In the typical situation where mothers have custody of the children, fathers who are involved in their children's lives are also the fathers whose child support is paid and who contribute to extraordinary expenses for a child: things like soccer, music lessons, the prom dress, or a special class trip. One important factor which contributes to the quality and quantity of the involvement of a father in a child's life is mother's attitude toward the child's relationship with father. When fathers leave the marriage and withdraw from their parenting role as well, they report conflicts with the mother as the major reason.

The impact of father or mother loss is not likely to be diminished by the introduction of stepparents. No one can replace Mom or Dad. And no one can take away the pain that a child feels when a parent decides to withdraw from their lives. Before embarking on a new family, encourage clients to do some reading on the common myths of step families. Often parents assume that after the remarriage "we will all live as one big happy family." Step family relationships need to be negotiated, expectations need to be expressed, roles need to be defined, realistic goals need to be set.

Most teenagers (and their parents) eventually adjust to divorce and regard it as having been a constructive action, but one-third do not. In those instances, the turbulence of the divorce phase (how adversarial a battle it is), has been shown to play a crucial role in creating unhealthy reactions in affected teenagers.

Joan Kelly, PhD, former president of the Academy of Family Mediators and prominent divorce researcher from California reports that, depending on the strength of the parent-child bond at the time of divorce, the parent-child relationship diminishes over time for children who see their fathers less than 35% of the time. Court-ordered "standard visitation" patterns typically provide less.

# Days
Every other weekend 48
4 weeks in summer 28
½ spring break 3
½ winter break 7
½ holidays 4
Total 90 days = 25%
Add 1 day per week 44
Total 134 days = 35%

And this next part describes in detail the typical reactions of children to divorce ;

Typical Reactions of Children to Divorce

Much of children's post-divorce adjustment is dependent on (1) the quality of their relationship with each parent before the divorce, (2) the intensity and duration of the parental conflict, and (3) the parents' ability to focus on the needs of the children in the divorce. Typically, children whose parents are going through a rough divorce engage in behaviors which are designed to help them feel secure. What follows are some typical experiences of children to divorce and separation:

A. DENIAL

This especially occurs in young children and surfaces as story telling (Mommy and Daddy and me going to Disneyland; we're moving into a duplex and Daddy will live next door; they will also have reconciliation fantasies).

B. ABANDONMENT

When parents separate, children worry who will take care of them. They are afraid they too are divorceable and will be abandoned by one or both of their parents. This problem is worsened by one or both parents taking the children into their confidence, talking about the other parent in front of the children, using language like "Daddy is divorcing us," being late for pick-up, or abducting the children. Children who are feeling insecure will say things to a parent which is intended to evoke a mama bear/papa bear response (a demonstration of protectiveness). If children do not have "permission" to have a good relationship with the other parent, or if they think they need to "take care of" one of their parents in the divorce, they are likely to end up having feelings of divided loyalties between their parents or, in the extreme, they may become triangulated with one parent against the other parent.

C. PREOCCUPATION WITH INFORMATION

Children will want details of what is happening and how it affects them. Communication from the parents needs to be unified and age appropriate.

D. ANGER AND HOSTILITY

Children may express anger and hostility with peers, siblings, or parents. School performance may be impaired. Hostility of children toward parents is often directed at the parent perceived to be at fault. Hostility turned inward looks like depression in children.

E. DEPRESSION

Lethargy, sleep and eating disturbances, acting out, social withdrawal, physical injury (more common in adolescents).

F. IMMATURITY/HYPERMATURITY

Children may regress to an earlier developmental stage when they felt assured of both parents' love. They may do some "baby-talk" or wet their beds. Children may become "parentified" by what they perceive to be the emotional and physical needs of their parents ("Someone needs to be in charge here.")

G. PREOCCUPATION WITH RECONCILIATION

The more conflict there is between the parents, the longer children hold onto the notion of their parents' reconciliation. It is clear that the parents are not "getting on" with their lives. Children will often act out in ways which force their parents to interact (negatively or positively). Children whose parents were very conflictual during the marriage often mistake the strong emotions of conflict with intimacy. They see the parents as engaged in an intimate relationship.

H. BLAME AND GUILT

Because so much marital conflict may be related to the stress of parenting, children often feel responsible for their parents' divorce--they feel that somehow their behavior contributed to it. This is especially true when parents fight during exchanges of the children or in negotiating schedules: children see that parents are fighting over them. They may try to bargain their parents back together by promises of good behavior; they may have difficulty with transitions or refuse to go with the other parent.

I. ACTING OUT

Children will often act out their own and their parents' anger. In an attempt to survive in a hostile environment, children will often take the side of the parent they are presently with. This may manifest in refusals to talk to the other parent on the phone or reluctance to share time with the other parent. Adolescents will typically act out in ways similar to how the parents are acting out.

In summary, expect that children will test a parent's loyalty, experience loyalty binds, not want to hurt either parent, force parents to interact because they don't want the divorce, try to exert some power in the situation, express anger over the divorce, occasionally refuse to go with the other parent (normal divorce stress, loyalty conflict/triangulation, or they may simply not want to stop doing what they're doing at the moment--similar to the reaction we've all gotten when we pick our children up from child care, or we want to go home from the park).

The most common problem which arise tend to stem from triangulation, divided loyalties, and projection. Some indicators of each are:

a. Triangulation: Child refuses to have time with the other parent or talk to the other parent on the phone, child badmouths the other parent.

b. Divided loyalties: When a child tells each parent different and opposing things about what they want it is a good indication that the child is trying to please both parents and is experiencing divided loyalties.

c. Projection: Children are barometers of a parent's emotional well-being. Usually a parent reporting the stress of a child can not see that the child is acting on the parent's anxiety. Parents should ask themselves how they are feeling about the divorce, the other parent, and the time sharing arrangements before assuming the child is having difficulty adjusting or assuming the problem is with the other household.
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A nice article from Henry Makow, originally written in 2005 but which he posted again on his website a few days ago ;

The Effect of Fatherlessness on Women

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
Feminism Deprives Girls of Father's Love
Slightly revised from June 18, 2005 -

Most girls already receive too little love from their fathers, and grow up to be insecure, distrustful of men and frigid, says Victoria Secunda, author of Women and their Fathers: The Sexual and Romantic Impact of the First Man in Your Life (1992). The result is failed marriages, broken families and a vicious circle of fatherlessness.

Secunda's conclusions are based on interviews with 150 daughters, 75 fathers, and dozens of authorities. Because she is not an academic, Ms. Secunda has written an honest and useful book. Because she is a feminist, it slipped through the feminist censors and was well received. This is ironic because feminism is largely responsible for the symptoms she describes.

FATHERS AND DAUGHTERS

Girls model their male romantic ideal on their relationship with their father, according to Secunda. One woman said: "When I grow up, will I ever find a man as sweet and good and kind as my daddy." (p.105)

Women's attachments are "mirror images" of how they related to their fathers. "They instinctively repeat what they experienced in childhood, even if it was the worst thing in the world. It's what they know. They are trying to have one more shot at childhood, one more chance to rewrite their emotional histories." (224)

A three-year-old girl wants to marry Daddy and have mother out of the way. A good father helps her to understand that he is spoken for and prepares her for another man. But if he leaves, her idealization of her father can be frozen in time. (197)

Girls must have their father's approval and love. This is like sun and water to a flower. One woman said: "Whenever I'd worry about ever getting a boyfriend, he'd laugh and say, 'Are you kidding? I'll have to beat them off with a stick. You'll see.' His whole approach was to make me feel good about myself.... I think if fathers do nothing else, that's a great thing." (221)

Another woman said: "It's my dad who made me believe in myself. I remember my mom once telling me, 'Don't act too smart; boys won't like you." To which my father responded, 'Hogwash! She'll get smarter boys." (225)

These women naturally feel positively about themselves and are able to find partners who mirror the devoted father of their childhood.

"FATHERLESS" WOMEN

If a woman does not have a dependable nurturing father, due to his arrested development or divorce, she may believe she is essentially unlovable and actually seek out men who deny her needs or reject her. (224)

These women may become sexually active prematurely. They may fear intimacy. The common theme is "an inability to trust, to believe that a man won't go away."

Secunda says that women who have trouble achieving orgasm mostly had fathers who were emotionally or physically absent during their childhood. (31) Understandably, a woman needs to trust in order to "let go." (See also my "The Power of Sexual Surrender.")

Women with absent fathers feel rootless and aren't sure they belong anywhere. They close up emotionally and tend to have rocky relationships. "Most of these daughters tended to test the men in their lives, starting fights, finding flaws, expecting to be abandoned, or looking for excuses to walk out themselves." (214)

Another pattern is anxiety about being financially dependent on men. This is where feminism comes in. "It seems that the less masculine attention they got in childhood, the more they seem to identify with and imitate men, keeping their feelings hidden, preferring casual teasing and unemotional banter to the intimacies of feminine soul bearing." (212)

Denied their fathers, women become more masculine. This is a way of bringing daddy back. They become the thing they are missing. (212)

In other words, a good father affirms his daughter's innate femininity. But if he is absent, she compensates by becoming masculine. This of course undermines her future relationships with men.

FEMINISTS COMPENSATE BY BECOMING MASCULINE

Many leaders of second-wave feminism are themselves products of broken homes. "My father didn't ever exist as a presence in my life.... He didn't care about us," said Marilyn French, author of The War Against Women.

"My father was living in California," said Gloria Steinem. "He didn't ring up but I would get letters from him and saw him maybe once or twice a year."

Germaine Greer: "My father had decided pretty early on that life at home was pretty unbearable...it gave my mother an opportunity to tyrannize the children and enlist their aid to disenfranchise my father completely." (From Susan Mitchell. Icons, Saints and Divas: Intimate Conversations with Women who Changed the World, New York: Harper Collins, 1997.)

Feminism is a self-perpetuating form of compensating for father-loss. Its goal is to "overthrow the patriarchy." The word originates in the Latin "pater" or father.

Feminism, like Communism, originates in the Illuminist endeavour to overthrow God and the natural order and impose on mankind an all-encompassing dictatorship of the rich. Feminism is patterned on spurious concept of class warfare Illuminati Jews used to subvert society. Similarly, men "oppress" women by virtue of their role as wife and mother. This is nonsense. Both sex roles involve sacrifice. Men have supported and defended families with their lives for centuries.

Feminism reflects the Illuminist (Masonic Jewish/Communist) assumption that man defines reality, not God and nature. It claims that sex roles are socially rather than biologically based. It coerces women to abandon the feminine role and usurp the male one instead, making men redundant. The goal is to emasculate males making them politically impotent.

Love, especially for a woman, is an act of faith. Feminism traumatizes young women with tales of how a woman is violently raped every 10 seconds. It teaches that all injustice is due to the "inequality" of the sexes and therefore heterosexuality itself must be eliminated.

Many feminists are lesbian and promote homosexuality. They have passed laws that deprive men of their children and property. Courts and police routinely discriminate against men. (See my "Dawn of the Feminist Police State" and "NWO Tyranny: Men are Being Kicked in the Teeth")

Second-wave feminism is the greatest enemy of femininity. It is part of a larger occult plan to poison the well springs of love and permanently damage the human spiritual ecology. Society suffers from a sourness due to the loss of feminine love, charm, beauty, intelligence, modesty and grace.

The innocent maiden is a relic of the past. The tramp is in. Women want to stay young but it never occurs to them that the secret formula might be innocence.

The establishment fosters and spreads the feminist hoax. I refer you to my articles "Relearning Heterosexual Love" ; "Betty Freiden: Mommie was a Commie"; and "Gloria Steinem: How the CIA Used Feminism to Destabilize Society."

THE HAVOC WREAKED BY FEMINISM

Since the onslaught of second-wave feminism in the 1960's the divorce rate has tripled. Almost 50% of white women who married then have divorced. In contrast, a single generation earlier (1940's), only 14% eventually divorced.

Between 1970 and 1992, the proportion of babies born outside of marriage rose from 11% to 30%. Three times as many children (per capita) are now living in single parent households. In 2000, 22.4% of all children under 18 (16,162,000 children) lived in mother-only households. In 1960, the figure was 8%. In 2010, four in ten babies were born to unwed mothers.

A study which tracked 1000 children of divorced parents from 1976 until 1987 found that nearly half of these children had not seen their fathers in the previous year. (203) The situation would appear to foster homosexuality, as males compensate for father-loss by becoming more feminine, and females by becoming masculine, as noted above.

As far as women's psychological development and happiness, feminism clearly is a virulent disease.

FATHER-DAUGHTER: A HETEROSEXUAL PARADIGM

These days men and women are kept in a state of arrested development, frozen in the courtship stage. If people are distracted and starved for sex, you can sell and control them.

The mass media encourages us to obsess on sex and postpone marriage and family indefinitely. When you are married, sex is readily available and less important.

Young men are taught to judge women on appearance and ignore qualities necessary for a successful marriage. The media presents beautiful women as goddesses and love as an ersatz religion. Perhaps the following will be of use to some men:

If women form their male ideal from their father, present or absent, perhaps men ought to be more "father-like" in their approach to women. Typically, women choose men who are five-years older because they seek to replicate their own family, with husband providing the physical and emotional security as their father did (or should have).

Men should seek younger women who "look up" to them. Instead of thinking in sexual terms, men should seek long-term relationships leading to marriage. This is far more rewarding than casual sex anyway.

Whether they had good fathers or not, women need husbands for children, security, nurturing and direction. Men should prepare themselves for this role. This is the standard to which men have always measured themselves, and women still measure men.

If many women are looking for a father figure, are men looking for a mother? Possibly. But this isn't healthy. Many men want a daughter-figure, someone who will demonstrate the loyalty, trust and devotion that a girl feels for her father. A man wants to be affirmed in his authority as husband and father, not mothered like a child.

Of course a man also wants his wife to be strong, sophisticated and effective because this makes her more desirable. But she should retain those daughterly qualities that he finds so attractive. When a woman trusts her husband's leadership, she can focus on her feminine side. It allows her to retain her youthfulness and attraction into old age.

Victoria Secunda's book confirms that some men occasionally have sexual feelings for their daughters. She says this is normal. Men get spooked and avoid their daughters. They shouldn't. There is a world of difference between involuntary arousal and conscious wanting, let alone acting. (16)

A father's responsibility is to build his daughter's trust in men, and thus prepare her for a worthy man. This involves confirming her in her sexual identity, as a capable attractive partner for a future husband.

CONCLUSION

In my lifetime the popular image of the father has been transformed from the dignified Robert Young in Fathers Knows Best to the bumbling fool Homer Simpson. This is not a coincidence or a "sign of the times." It reflects a sophisticated psychological warfare program designed by the Illuminist elite to emasculate men, depopulate, degrade and destabilize society.

The people who own and run the planet do not want us to become mature beings that can perceive the true order of things. Their main instrument is the mass media, which makes trends like feminism appear spontaneous.

Women have an equal claim to dignity and self-fulfillment, and can have careers if they wish, preferably after their children are in school. But second-wave feminism is not really about equality or choice. Its hidden agenda is to spread a lesbian developmental disorder that attacks the basic social unit, the heterosexual family.

The dysfunction created by the destruction of the family has spawned a parasitic class of feminist professionals: politicians, educators, writers, law enforcers, lawyers, counsellors and social workers. This class becomes the elite's political constituency.

Thus mankind is kept in a state of arrested development, the retarded family in the cosmos. It's time for men to step up to the plate. In the human life cycle, the boy becomes the father. The son carries on the vision of the father. As someone said, "you're not a success until you have a successor!"

Males also suffer from father loss. But there is a father that we can know. I am talking about God. We are made in God's image and His image is in our soul. Man in Latin, "vir", has the same root as virtue. It's as simple as always doing the right thing.

In this context, the right thing for a man means creating a healthy happy family based on sound values and a wholesome vision of life.
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There are several comments I'd like to make here (not aimed at anyone in particular).

First of all, there's a line of thinking that assumes so long as children of divorce don't end up drug addicts or mentally ill, it so follows that no damage was done.

This is extremely myopic and wrong. All the (now adult) children of divorce I know are functioning members of society with degrees, job, and no criminal records. Does that mean they're fine and undamaged? No, of course not - I have watched them have epic struggles with themselves and their personal relationships, and there is a fundamental brokenness and lack of wholeness to people who's families shattered which cannot be measured "scientifically". I can spot adult children of divorce with almost 100% accuracy, sad but true.

Becoming a parent is supposed to mean putting your children first and, if necessary sacrificing what you want for what they need. Parents who choose to divorce are putting this fundamental paradigm on it's head, and putting their own wants and desires over what their children NEED in order to develop optimally, which is both their biological parents present together in the same house as a family unit.

Studies show that children fare better in divorce if their parents are nice, communicative, respectful to each other - yeah, no shit, and the question this begs is if they're able to get on so well together, why in the hell are they getting divorced?

The only times divorce isn't catastrophic for children is when their parents get on well enough that they could have stayed married. How insane is that? But that's the truth.

Always when I'm hearing about "good divorces", it's all "oh, we get on so well, we're still best friends, etc etc", and no actual REASON for why they're divorcing!

If your partner is abusive to you or your children, of course you must leave - but evidence overwhelmingly shows that usually what happens when people leave one abusive relationship is they walk straight into another; and now the new partner is not the other biological parent of the children, they are in far more danger (children living with their mother and an unrelated adult male - e.g. stepfather type - are abused and neglected over 800% more frequently than children living with both their biological parents). So liberals screech about abusive relationships, that those of us who object to divorce somehow are in favour of abuse, when the hard facts are divorce facilitates a lot more abuse than it stops, plus the lion's share of divorces - two-thirds - are not abusive or violent at all. The parents are just unhappy, drifting apart etc - and does divorce magically make them happy and fulfilled? Very rarely.

Even when it does, the price the children pay is typically so enormous (and subsidised by the rest of society - the cost to the economy of broken homes and their side effects are into the billions), it is not worth it.
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Do you read anything by GirlWritesWhat here website is here http://owningyourshit.blogspot.co.uk/?


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Frog, this is about men not marrying/procreating in the first place not couples with children getting divorced.

I do know "Girl Writes What", she is a lesbian male supremacist "MRA" with, IMO, some serious, serious psychological issues. I do not generally like MRAs, see my thread here:

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Apparently, this is being encouraged:

Hacienda Villa, New Brooklyn Apartment Complex, Welcomes Polyamorous Residents

A new apartment complex in Brooklyn is celebrating all things non-monogamous.

Leon Feingold, co-president of Open Love NY, spoke with HuffPost Live's Ricky Camilleri about the Hacienda Villa, a three-story apartment complex that caters to polyamorous people in Brooklyn's Bushwick neighborhood.

"The idea for people to live together with shared intentions and goals is really nothing new," Feingold said. "However, New York City has a very large polyamorous community and one of our members is a real estate developer and he was buying and renovating a house. He thought it would be a really cool idea to have a whole bunch of people living in it."

Open Love NY is a NY-based organization that provides resources for the polyamorous community.

Feingold explained that while you don't have to be polyamorous to live in the apartment complex, you simply have to be respectful of other people's life choices. He said 12 of the 15 apartments have already sold in just one month.

"There’s obviously a lot of demand to live in a place that, sort of like this one, promises no judgment and understanding of people’s boundaries whatever they are," Feingold said.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/hacienda-villa-polyamorous-housing-complex-in-new-york_n_5499723.html
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Frog, this is about men not marrying/procreating in the first place not couples with children getting divorced.

I do know "Girl Writes What", she is a lesbian male supremacist "MRA" with, IMO, some serious, serious psychological issues. I do not generally like MRAs, see my thread here:

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The video is a introduction and men not marrying is just one part of a much border issue related to the single parent divorce situation. For a start there are more people that don't want to commit to relationships in the traditional sense such as formal marriage agreements. This leaves people more willing to end long term relationships i.e. obtain a divorce.

As for the adhominems you know where they can go! I have no idea if she is a lesbian or has any psychological issues. That's certainly not the impression she has given me! AFAIK she has a couple of sons and their future prospects obviously concern her.

She actually builds good arguments for her thinking and covers a wide area of social history and conditioning including the effects on children, which people will see if they read her blog etc. and don't judge her based on my poor choice of video.

It's quite possible to gain insights from people that we do not agree with 100% or in deed people we totally disagree with on issues. It's about understanding the bigger picture and in this debate these relationships combined to form social conditions and mould society.

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It doesn't surprise me to find someone with a name like Leon Feingold pushing anti-monogamy agendas. :roll:
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Frog wrote:
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Frog, this is about men not marrying/procreating in the first place not couples with children getting divorced.

I do know "Girl Writes What", she is a lesbian male supremacist "MRA" with, IMO, some serious, serious psychological issues. I do not generally like MRAs, see my thread here:

truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63707-men-s-rights-activists-mras.html

The video is a introduction and men not marrying is just one part of a much border issue related to the single parent divorce situation. For a start there are more people that don't want to commit to relationships in the traditional sense such as formal marriage agreements. This leaves people more willing to end long term relationships i.e. obtain a divorce.

As for the adhominems you know where they can go! I have no idea if she is a lesbian or has any psychological issues. That's certainly not the impression she has given me! AFAIK she has a couple of sons and their future prospects obviously concern her.

She actually builds good arguments for her thinking and covers a wide area of social history and conditioning including the effects on children, which people will see if they read her blog etc. and don't judge her based on my poor choice of video.

It's quite possible to gain insights from people that we do not agree with 100% or in deed people we totally disagree with on issues. It's about understanding the bigger picture and in this debate these relationships combined to form social conditions and mould society.

They're not ad homs, it's a fact - she is a lesbian and does believe in male superiority, and anyone who can denigrate their own gender as much as she does obviously has serious issues (as does the large majority of the MRA movement). She talks about "women this", and "women that" - she's a woman, how come these things don't apply to her? If these are part of women's evil nature, "gynocetric imperative" or whatever, how is she magically free of them?

She is obviously against marriage and children as she talked in that video about how marriage enslaves men and happens on "women's schedules" (um, no, kind of more nature's schedules), and is clearly another proponent of the philosophy that men should live as indulged toddlers for their entire lives and have no responsibilities.

Divorce isn't a "men v. women" issue as both men AND women file for divorces and split up their families. Yes, women file for the majority of divorces, but men still file for a third - that's quite a lot. Like, many millions. I know plenty of families where it was the man who had the affair and left, leaving the woman crushed and the children devastated. MRAs are hateful myopic fools who aren't interested in anything that might actual improve the world because that would detract from their REAL agenda - slagging off women. And unfortunately there are some self-hating women who join in.

As I read the other day, the definition of a misogynist is a man who hates women almost as much as other women do...

I'm not blaming you for posting her video :) I just despise MRAs. A lot. And can't agree with anything expressed through their distorted, absurd, and bile-filled world view.
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Humm well she offers rational arguments and supports them with her research.

I think your interpretation of what she is about differs from my own. I don't think she is anti or pro any agenda as such she is simply calling it as she sees it based on information she has found and opinions she has formed. Please show me evidence that supports the claim that she is anti children? As I said I have no idea if she is a lesbian or not and quite frankly I don't see what bearing that has on the stuff she presents which people can verify, agree or disagree with. Why would being a lesbian make anyone pro male some would argue the opposite might be true in most cases?

From my understanding of her she is pro healthy communities that are free from false ideologies and preconceptions. She tends to look at the roots of the issue not the peripheral BS and generalisations.

I guess people with an interest should investigate for themselves and form their own opinions on what she is all about, rather than accept either of our opinions on her work. It would probably be best if they consider the information she provides rather than her personality imho.

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Frog wrote:

As I said I have no idea if she is a lesbian or not and quite frankly I don't see what bearing that has on the stuff she presents which people can verify, agree or disagree with. .


And right there frog, you've touched upon a very real, growing vein running through this place.

Right there.

It would probably be best if they consider the information she provides rather than her personality imho


It's not her personality. It's her sexuality that is a problem for timesarrow and many others on this forum. What the woman says is moot because they can't see past this tiny little detail.

And I don't care how far our differences seem to have gone in the recent past, but I damn well know that that's not a view you share, so it begs the question, why is it suddenly so acceptable now?
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As I said I have no idea if she is a lesbian or not and quite frankly I don't see what bearing that has on the stuff she presents which people can verify, agree or disagree with. .


And right there frog, you've touched upon a very real, growing vein running through this place.

Right there.

It would probably be best if they consider the information she provides rather than her personality imho


It's not her personality. It's her sexuality that is a problem for timesarrow and many others on this forum. What the woman says is moot because they can't see past this tiny little detail.

And I don't care how far our differences seem to have gone in the recent past, but I damn well know that that's not a view you share, so it begs the question, why is it suddenly so acceptable now?

Good God, I dissected at length why I don't like her, and all you managed to take from it was that I said she was a lesbian?! Christ, I couldn't care less what she is, I dislike all of her brethren in the MRA as I said, who are almost exclusively heterosexual males. Very small minded and dense, aren't you? EVERYTHING always has to come back to racism! sexism! homophobia! Change the damn record.
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Good God, I dissected at length why I don't like her, and all you managed to take from it was that I said she was a lesbian?! Christ, I couldn't care less what she is, I dislike all of her brethren in the MRA as I said, who are almost exclusively heterosexual males. Very small minded and dense, aren't you? EVERYTHING always has to come back to racism! sexism! homophobia! Change the damn record.

No, you just hate her 'cus she's female. You're a misogynist. And an anti-Semite, and a Nazi, and a homophobe. I bet you believe women should be locked in the kitchen and only come out to give birth. Or is that me? I forget. Tends to get rather confusing when the same vague and seemingly random accusations are thrown around like confetti, as punishment for the crime of disagreeing with a cultural Marxist.
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