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No more physics and maths, 26 Mar 2015 18:40 #1

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The dumbing down is happening everywhere . We all know most schools are under 'attack.' for the last 50yrs.

No more physics and maths, Finland to stop teaching individual subjects

www.sciencealert.com/no-more-physics-and-maths-finland-to-stop-teaching-individual-subjects

Finland, one of the leading educational hotspots in the world, is embarking on one of the most radical overhauls in modern education. By 2020, the country plans to phase out teaching individual subjects such as maths, chemistry and physics, and instead teach students by 'topics' or broad phenomena, so that there's no more question about "what's the point of learning this?"

What does that mean exactly? Basically, instead of having an hour of geography followed by an hour of history, students will now spend, say, two hours learning about the European Union, which covers languages, economics, history and geography. Or students who are taking a vocational course might study 'cafeteria services', which would involve learning maths, languages and communication skills, as Richard Garner reports for The Independent. So although students will still learn all the important scientific theories, they'll be finding out about them in a more applied way, which actually sounds pretty awesome.

"What we need now is a different kind of education to prepare people for working life," Pasi Silander, the Helsinki's development manager, told Garner. "Young people use quite advanced computers. In the past the banks had lots of bank clerks totting up figures but now that has totally changed. We therefore have to make the changes in education that are necessary for industry and modern society."

The new system also encourages different types of learning, such as interactive problem solving and collaborating among smaller groups, to help develop career-ready skills. "We really need a rethinking of education and a redesigning of our system, so it prepares our children for the future with the skills that are needed for today and tomorrow," Marjo Kyllonen, Helsinki’s education manager, who is leading the change, told Garner.

"There are schools that are teaching in the old fashioned way which was of benefit in the beginnings of the 1900s - but the needs are not the same and we need something fit for the 21st century," she added.

Individual subjects started being phased out for 16-year-olds in the country's capital of Helsinki two years ago, and 70 percent of the city's high school teachers are now trained in the new approach. Early data shows that students are already benefitting, with The Independent reporting that measurable pupil outcomes have improved since the new system was introduced. And Kyllonen's blueprint, which will be published later this month, will propose that the new system is rolled out across Finland by 2020.

Of course, there is some backlash from teachers who've spent their entire career specialising in certain subjects. But the new blueprint suggests that teachers from different backgrounds work together to come up with the new 'topic' curriculums, and will receive a pay incentive for doing so.

Finland already has one of the best education systems in the world, consistently falling near the top of the prestigious PISA rankings in maths, science and reading, and this change could very well help them stay there.

Source: The Independent
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No more physics and maths, 26 Mar 2015 19:51 #2

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Actually I have thought for some time a more integrated teaching of maths physics and chemistry would be beneficial, together with Science history, so students could see

1. Where we are coming from

and

2. How the disciplines fit together.

These days these days the boundaries are blurred, and cross-referencing applications would help embed concepts
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No more physics and maths, 26 Mar 2015 20:20 #3

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That comprehensive idea you have to integrate in a way to make science and maths more easily understood sounds nice - I don't see as the intention . What will happen is a watering down in all subject areas.
I might be wrong in Finland s' case , I would like to think so but I'm completely sure that is not what's happening in the Uk and States.
Have you seen the "new math" - it's totally stupid .
The whole agenda is to dumb down . In 50 yrs I wonder how many will be truly literate - just look at the mid east , little learning going on these days. Further education is slipping away from many a grasp..
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No more physics and maths, 26 Mar 2015 20:22 #4

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rodin wrote:
Actually I have thought for some time a more integrated teaching of maths physics and chemistry would be beneficial, together with Science history, so students could see

I would urgently recommend to add ancient texts, reeavluation of translations if these text probably describe technology, rather than say "possibly a cult object".
Eventually these academics will notice electricity had been known eg to Greeks or romans, or short wave radio. :)
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No more physics and maths, 26 Mar 2015 20:48 #5

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hi oracle - I've seen your suggestion with home schooled children whose parent / teachers have discussed the topic of old and alternative energy sources . The Baghdad battery ect.
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No more physics and maths, 26 Mar 2015 21:21 #6

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Lizzy wrote:
hi oracle - I've seen your suggestion with home schooled children whose parent / teachers have discussed the topic of old and alternative energy sources . The Baghdad battery ect.

Well, how could it be, that Romans were able to send a message in 2 days from Rome to Britannia?
They used it militarily, the Greeks civil.
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No more physics and maths, 27 Mar 2015 01:09 #7

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No more physics and maths, 29 Mar 2015 03:26 #8

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Lizzy wrote:
That comprehensive idea you have to integrate in a way to make science and maths more easily understood sounds nice - I don't see as the intention . What will happen is a watering down in all subject areas.
I might be wrong in Finland s' case , I would like to think so but I'm completely sure that is not what's happening in the Uk and States.
Have you seen the "new math" - it's totally stupid .
The whole agenda is to dumb down . In 50 yrs I wonder how many will be truly literate - just look at the mid east , little learning going on these days. Further education is slipping away from many a grasp..

In Indonesia they selling new T-Shirts with the print on the back 1 + 1 = 3 .......... & its too over here!
No not joking.

Exactly what you pointing to .......
they trying to eliminate everything which would normally activate your logical self thinking ability.
This new generation are totally lost already once there power goes off in there Shops........ You can buy nothing anymore here if there teller counter in there shop lost its power & turned off.

Many can not even calculate the most basics over here.
Also two wrongs makes them both right by there calculations & hard core religious training only five times a day ........... Welcome to Indonesian education system.

And don't you ever tell them that 1 + 1 = 2 ....... they will declare jihad on you.

@ oiram @
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