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TOPIC: How Guilty are YOU?

How Guilty are YOU? 11 Jan 2016 02:14 #1

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There are so many lies associated with the war and subsequent increases in militarism and scare tactics. The Movie Atomic Cafe will seem like comedy to people who did not live through it. It and Birth of a Nation should be shown at least as often as The Good, the Bad and the Ugly except when it is being shown the first few times there should be no programming but it available.

The abuses of power include mind control still being developed from wartime efforts as well as far worse applications of technologies you know little or nothing about. I have had partners involved and I have done major research for fifty years since I heard rumours while an officer of the regiment which watched over the birthplace of the OSS and many non-lethal weapons. That is Camp X!

forum.world-mysteries.com/threads/1587-The-American-Lie

The Nazis or German people were not the first movers in eugenics and human experimentation. In fact they were the only nation with laws regulating such things until after the war.

You might say War is Hell and we all know what goes on in war includes a lot of lies. Fine - that is true, but the wars of the 20th Century were all planned and it was not until the Treaty of Lisbon recently, that Hitler can declare a victory for what he wrote was his assigned task - bringing down the borders in Europe! The implementation of communism (Yeltsin quote available) was part of the plan, but it was not communism as much as it was an extension of capitalism US - style. Who cares if you get your flag over the steeples in a country if you are getting the resources and corporate deals you want? Call it colonialism, imperialism and a hundred other names; the words do not matter no matter how often they change.

Worse things are now being planned and almost every person living in the Americas is either blind or ignorant - just as the German people chose to look the other way as the camps were being built long before the war and they started reporting their gay neighbors or other mutants and lesser (supposed) people were forced to work for ideologies they would never have anything to do with.

Here is more to consider as you try to assimilate what you just read while thinking of names to sling at me so that YOU feel you are not guilty. www.democracynow.org/2004/5/5/plutonium_files_how_the_u_s

"In 2010 groups in Afghanistan produced 90 percent of the world's illicit opium, using clandestine labs well hidden in the country's topography."
www.deamuseum.org/ccp/opium/p...tribution.html

You can say this is ancient history - and there is nothing we can do about it. But that only shows how brainwashed you are. The facts are there - the US invaded Afghanistan after their former "student radicals" (They called the Taliban this when the Taliban was doing their bidding.) who were supported by US funds channeled through Pakistan's General Zia stopped the flow of drugs from Afghanistan. Yes, and the UN recognized their good work just a month before the US and Allies invaded in 2001. A very successful invasion of a country which only a few years before fought for the US and lost over a million fighters when Osama Bin Laden worked with the Mujahedin and later the CIA. You can see a little truth in the movie with Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts addressing how ghastly the US was to promise to take care of their fighters (In Vietnam they promised the Hmung would get US Citizenship for similar efforts.) and do NOTHING!

Is it pure co-incidence that GHW Bush was on the Board of Directors of Carlyle Corporation (Armaments goes hand in glove with drugs) with the Bin Laden family. And don't forget his son SHRUB who allowed them to fly away after 9-11 when no planes could be flown by any commercial or private concern.

www.britannica.com/event/Afghanistan-War
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How Guilty are YOU? 11 Jan 2016 11:21 #2

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Political correctness dictates all manner of acquiescence to supposed freedoms which cults called religions enjoy. You too might have thought the Muslims were far better than the other parts of this cult (Christian and Jew) because they did not go through a Dark Age as dark as Europe did. Some elements of this cult are persecuting the best elements of their faith because those elements allow women teachers or teach real spirituality (Sufis are killed and beaten regularly).

Henceforward I will not pussyfoot around these people, not that I ever really did. Here is a response to a person selling their stuff at another site. He equates Genital Disfigurement with circumcision.

Liars and deviates in your awful and retarded cult should ne nuked! It is the only way the rest of this world will survive probably. Brainwashing or other such means unfortunately cannot overcome your sick needs to keep women under your control. Please click on each colored word so some day you might actually stop doing what your asshole imams tell you to do.


Here is what WIKI says about genital disfigurement and why you assholes do it.

"The procedures differ according to the ethnic group. They include removal of the clitoral hood and clitoral glans, removal of the inner labia, and in the most severe form (known as infibulation) removal of the inner and outer labia and closure of the vulva. In this last procedure, a small hole is left for the passage of urine and menstrual fluid; the vagina is opened for intercourse and opened further for childbirth. Health effects depend on the procedure, but can include recurrent infections, chronic pain, cysts, an inability to get pregnant, complications during childbirth, and fatal bleeding.[11] There are no known health benefits.[12]

The practice is rooted in gender inequality, attempts to control women's sexuality, and ideas about purity, modesty and aesthetics. It is usually initiated and carried out by women, who see it as a source of honour and fear that failing to have their daughters and granddaughters cut will expose the girls to social exclusion.[n 2] Over 130 million women and girls have experienced FGM in the 29 countries in which it is concentrated.[3] The United Nations Population Fund estimates that 20 percent of affected women have been infibulated, a practice found largely in northeast Africa, particularly Djibouti, Eritrea, Somalia and northern Sudan.[15][16]"
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How Guilty are YOU? 11 Jan 2016 11:42 #3

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You have heard the slogan
"the government that governs least governs best".

It is a catchy phrase and you should know anything written about the Physiocrats and Adam Smith as being the first economic school of thought is utter nonsense. The monopolists and oligarchs including the family of Pierre Dupont de Nemours who authored some of the French Physiocratic writings have always understood and managed the Wealth of Nations. His family wrote the Hebrew Bible in 600 BCE and gave his fellow family members, the Benjaminites, the monopoly on usury. Keep this in mind as you read what I have excerpted herewith from a book on the web addressing Smith's book The Wealth of Nations. Or just read the last sentence.

"The Physiocrats, on their part, clearly laid down and steadily contended that nothing that did not have material existence, or was not produced from land, could be included in the category of the wealth of society. Adam Smith, however, with seeming inadvertence, has fallen in places into the inconsistency of classing personal qualities and obligations as wealth. This is probably attributable to the fact that what it seemed to him possible to accomplish was much less than the Physiocrats aimed at. The task to which he set himself, that in the main of showing the absurdity and impolicy of the mercantile or protective system, was sufficiently difficult to make him comparatively regardless of speculations that led far beyond it. With the disproval of the current notion that the wealth of nations consists of the precious metals, his care as to what is and what is not a part of that wealth relaxed. He went with the Physiocrats in their condemnation of the attempts of governments to check commerce, but stopped both where they had carried the idea of freeing all production from tax or restraint to the point of a practical proposition, and where they had fallen into obvious error. He neither proposed the single tax, nor did he fall into that mistake of declaring agriculture the only productive occupation. That there is a natural order he saw; and that to this natural order our perceptions of justice conform, he also saw. But that involved in this natural order is a provision for the material needs of advancing society he seems never to have seen.

There are passages in the Wealth of Nations where Adam Smith checks his inquiry with a suddenness that shows an indisposition to venture on ground that the possessing classes would deem dangerous."


http://www.politicaleconomy.org/speII_3.htm

The very term "Physiocrat" is an invention of Pierre Dupont de Nemours. He sold weapons to both sides of all conflicts in his time, before moving his family to Delaware where they continued playing both ends against the middle (Hegelian Dialectic) and benefitting from what became the Military Industrial Complex. I know the serious thinker will see what I quote next meant he wanted no taxes on his income, and he wanted rents on land to carry the full burden of government. What a master-stroke of deceit he achieved when he got economics to follow this path of reasoning - and then came Keynesian nonsense and building weapons which would never be used (Even giving a complete air force to the Russians shortly before saying they were not to be trusted and therefore we must increase military spending during Peacetime.) just to make work. If you think our leaders should emphasize work as a means to manage society and not productivity - you are indeed VERY guilty.
"As land is the only source of wealth, then the burden of all taxes ultimately bears down on the landowner. So instead of levying a complicated collection of scattered taxes (which are difficult to administer and can cause temporary distortions), it is most efficient to just go to the root and tax land rents directly.

However practical many of the Physiocrats' policy measures were, they wrapped their arguments in metaphysical clouds. They differentiated between the ordre naturel (natural order, or the social order dictated by nature's laws) and the ordre positif (positive order, or the social order dictated by human ideals). They charged that social philosophers had gotten both of these mixed up. The ordre positif was wholly about man-made conventions. It was about how society should be organized to conform to some human-constructed ideal. This, they argued, was what the "natural law" and "social contract" philosophers, like Locke and Rousseau, were concerned with. However, there was, the Physiocrats argued, nothing "natural" in them at all -- and so these theories ought to be dumped. In contrast, the ordre naturel were the laws of nature, which were God-given and unalterable by human construct. The believed that the only choice humans had was either to structure their polity, economy and society in conformity with the ordre naturel or to go against it."

www.biu.ac.il/soc/ec/students/teach/814/data/t1.doc
The Physiocrats were a group of French Enlightenment thinkers of the 1760s that .... The term "Physiocracy" itself (introduced by Dupont de Nemours (1767)) ...
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How Guilty are YOU? 11 Jan 2016 12:36 #4

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It may not really belong in this thread but I suspect some viewers will appreciate it shows a way that the Illuminized ones are impacting us to this day. Not necessarily in a bad way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEUHWbAZxU

Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to Lafayette in 1823 that went as follows:
"I do not believe with the Rochefoucaults and Montaignes, that fourteen of fifteen men are rogue. I believe a great abatement from that proportion may be made in favor of general honesty. But I have always found that rogues would be uppermost, and I do not know that the proportion is to strong for the higher orders... These set out with stealing the people's good opinion, and then steal from them the right of withdrawing it by contriving laws and associations against the power of the people themselves."

"… the archetypal Roman shouldered the White Man's Burden, the arduous but fabulously profitable task of governing those whom, despite all evidence to the contrary, the Romans judged incapable of governing themselves." (Lucy Hughes-Hallett from 'Cleopatra')

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again." -- Paine, Common Sense, 1776.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies a theft from those who hunger and are not fed; those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its labourers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953

"... our mode of teaching the principles of our profession [Masonry] is derived from the Druids... and our chief emblems originally came from Egypt..." [William Hutchinson, Mason, The Spirit of Masonry, revised by George Oliver, New York, Bell Publishing, originally published in 1775, p. 195]

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.
As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
- President Abraham Lincoln, 1865

If you circle around looking for a reason to disappear into the void of non-reason you will find ample opportunity in every religion. In some cases you will find fraud being accepted as dogma and different sects of the same cultus going to war against each other. All the while with pious sounds while pounding pulpits full of Armageddon and self-fulfilling prophecy. They suck and blow simultaneously out of every orifice.

Unfortunately some people who wish to have power over others have dragged all life on earth into this apocalyptic maelstrom. It really isn't funny to suggest anyone can learn the Torah or Kabbalah (spelt many ways and having numerous histories - including liars according to the eminent scholar who recently re-wrote the Zohar). This allows a lot more people to argue how many angels fit on the head of a needle while fleecing and ripping off the rest of life on earth; who long ago grew weary of debating with children. The development of soul is not in reach of smiling-faced purveyors or back-slapping deviates who engage in every criminal and immoral act over "Devoted Ones". Halakah allows genocide by elites against their Judaism converts through political efforts - the Khazars. What allows the Jews to claim a Holocaust when it was their own elites who did it?

But there is great wisdom encoded in the archaic books and oral trads (Qabala or Bairdic Tradition). We should get rid of codes and speak without the tongue that is forked before we are totally f**ked I say.

http://www.aish.com/atr/Torah_versus_Talmud.html

Language and gestures or the Bardic miming and performance arts caused a lot of human evolution and cultural adaptation to occur. The bards or poets kept the verbal history and performed for people while they learned how to speak and share thoughts or become more intelligent. Dream Dancing and the Orishas were part of this in Africa or with the Dervish. The qabala needs a lot more scientific inquiry. Language and gestures or the Bardic miming and performance arts caused a lot of human evolution and culture to occur.

http://www.cogsci.ecs.soton.ac.uk/cg.../newpsy?11.007
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