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TOPIC: The War On Free Speech

The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 16:36 #141

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paddy_blake wrote:
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You're such a dumb bitch. :larf:

Not intelligent enough to argue on the topic of free speech, so resorts to trolling like all the others.

:)

Hey, you're the one saying "I don't talk to fascists" :dunno:

So if we are so dead-wrong about everything, then we should be out-debated easily right?

But due to lack of your intelligence (which you project on others), you rather not debate us as you know you'll lose it. ;)
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The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 16:51 #142

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George Orwell fought against fascists like you Zorro, and other fascists on this board.
Having arrived in Barcelona on 26 December 1936, Orwell told John McNair, the Independent Labour Party's (ILP) representative there, that he had "come to Spain to join the militia to fight against Fascism." He also told McNair that "he would like to write about the situation and endeavour to stir working class opinion in Britain and France." McNair took him to the POUM barracks, where Orwell immediately enlisted.[4] "Orwell did not know that two months before he arrived in Spain, the [Soviet law enforcement agency] NKVD's resident in Spain, Aleksandr Orlov, had assured NKVD Headquarters, 'the Trotskyist organisation POUM can easily be liquidated'—by those, the Communists, whom Orwell took to be allies in the fight against Franco."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia

Is that so, paddy_fake? I don't think so. Me thinks you're taking things totally out of context here. My only question is, are you doing it deliberately, or are you just another confused lefty with a poor grasp on history in it's correct context?

Much of ''Orwell's'' views real name (Eric Arthur Blair) actually came out of his experiences with working with the United Marxist Workers Party militia in Spain, and his commitment to the working class and true socialism, and his opposition to tyranny . In some of his later essays he also writes about how he witnessed for himself the destruction and tyranny at the hands of the Communists. Which is also where he learned how tyranny often masks itself as ''freedom.'' Hence why he coined words such as ''double-think'' and so on..

If Orwell were alive today then he certainly wouldn't be supporting all this rotten Political Correctness that is responsible for eroding the very principals that he himself stood for i.e freedom of speech. To try and suggest otherwise is idiotic at best. Anybody who tries to suggest otherwise clearly doesn't understand Orwell, and why such things as Political Correctness are rightfully dubbed ''Orwellian.''

Orwell coined terms like ''double-think'' and such in his novel 1984 for good reason. Which is something that you yourself appear to be completely submerged in and very good at yourself.. 'double-think'' and ''double speak'' that is.. :cool2:
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 17:20 #143

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paddy_blake wrote:
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thinking? Is that what's going on. I don't see any of that. I only see you trolling me.

I think (!) this "zaxian" insinuation is quite funny,
especially given that you also said:


paddy_blake wrote:
Call a person a troll or shill long enough and people start believing it.
truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/66670-the-war-on-free-speech.html?start=120#251484

:wissl:

Call a Nazi a Nazi and they get upset.
Call a Fascist a Fascist and they get upset.
Call a Troll a Troll and they get upset.

I'm not upset. What has any of your posts directed to me have anything to do with the topic of this thread and free speech?


Dear paddy, nomen est omen btw, you can call me whatever pleases you :) for I know who and what I am.
I've said this many times already on this forum, but as you are a newbie from the dif pit I gladly repeat it.

If you start to use the most vile swear swords that exist, like gaia for example, then I might at least point to this fact,
because this form of most base behaviour is not tolerated on any other halfway civilised forum that I know, except TZ.


"Everyone must free their own mind. The door is always open, they must simply be brave enough to take the step."

- paddy of the dif pit :up: :up: :up: Plato's ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE in a nutshell.
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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 17:42 #144

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
paddy_blake wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
paddy_blake wrote:
thinking? Is that what's going on. I don't see any of that. I only see you trolling me.

I think (!) this "zaxian" insinuation is quite funny,
especially given that you also said:


paddy_blake wrote:
Call a person a troll or shill long enough and people start believing it.
truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/66670-the-war-on-free-speech.html?start=120#251484

:wissl:

Call a Nazi a Nazi and they get upset.
Call a Fascist a Fascist and they get upset.
Call a Troll a Troll and they get upset.

I'm not upset. What has any of your posts directed to me have anything to do with the topic of this thread and free speech?


Dear paddy, nomen est omen btw, you can call me whatever pleases you :) for I know who and what I am.
I've said this many times already on this forum, but as you are a newbie from the dif pit I gladly repeat it.

If you start to use the most vile swear swords that exist, like gaia for example, then I might at least point to this fact,
because this form of most base behaviour is not tolerated on any other halfway civilised forum that I know, except TZ.


"Everyone must free their own mind. The door is always open, they must simply be brave enough to take the step."

- paddy of the dif pit :up: :up: :up: Plato's ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE in a nutshell.
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Perfect irony for this thread. Already trembling to get me censored and banned. Already telling me what to write and what not to write, typical little snowflake authoritarian.
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The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 17:51 #145

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Perfect irony for this thread. Already trembling to get me censored and banned. Already telling me what to write and what not to write, typical little snowflake authoritarian.

This is you in a nutshell:

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The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 19:28 #146

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Perfect irony for this thread. Already trembling to get me censored and banned. Already telling me what to write and what not to write, typical little snowflake authoritarian.

I said "you can call me whatever pleases you".

:killinme:

If ever someone got blocked on TZ it's been me.

truth-zone.net/forum/researchers-and-presenters/65950-the-david-icke-forum.html?start=5200#251352

"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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The War On Free Speech 24 Feb 2017 22:19 #147

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If ever someone got blocked on TZ it's been me.

Its true, ive given time outs across the political and ideological spectrum, from the biggest nazis in the universe (like pfiz) to antifa, anarchists and maoists.
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The War On Free Speech 25 Feb 2017 14:09 #148

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novum wrote:
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If ever someone got blocked on TZ it's been me.

Its true, ive given time outs across the political and ideological spectrum, from the biggest nazis in the universe (like pfiz) to antifa, anarchists and maoists.

What do you want, a nobel peace prize? You're now making out that you're somehow the biggest liberal in the world, upholding the rights of freedom of speech, when you're not.

This forum is overrun with hate speech, because you allow it. That doesn't make you a liberal or defender of free speech.

Think about it novum, think long and hard. :chuckle:
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The War On Free Speech 25 Feb 2017 14:14 #149

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What do you want, a nobel peace prize? You're now making out that you're somehow the biggest liberal in the world, upholding the rights of freedom of speech, when you're not.

This forum is overrun with hate speech, because you allow it. That doesn't make you a liberal or defender of free speech.

Think about it novum, think long and hard. :chuckle:


Please define "hate speech".

You can criticise a lot about novum, but you can definitely not accuse him of not upholding the rights of freedom of speech!

This is a completely baseless and malicious insinuation.

Jmho


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Its true, ive given time outs across the political and ideological spectrum, from the biggest nazis in the universe (like pfiz) to antifa, anarchists and maoists.


Who was the "antifa" you blocked/gave time out?
Who was the "anarchist" you blocked/gave time out?
truth-zone.net/forum/profile/399-maoist-1.html Was it you, who blocked him?

:dunno:

It's quite a pitty that the extreme leftist newbies from the dif pit are totally intolerant.

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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The War On Free Speech 25 Feb 2017 14:40 #150

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Please define "hate speech".

You can criticise a lot about novum, but you can definitely not accuse him of not upholding the rights of freedom of speech!

This is a completely baseless and malicious insinuation.

Jmho

No, let wiki define hate speech:
Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation.[1][2] In the law of some countries, hate speech is described as speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it incites violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected group, or individual on the basis of their membership to the group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected group, or individual on the basis of their membership to the group. The law may identify a protected group by certain characteristics.[3][4][5] In the law of other countries, hate speech is not a legal term.[6] In some countries, a victim of hate speech may seek redress under civil law, criminal law, or both. A website which uses hate speech may be called a hate site. Most of these sites contain Internet forums and news briefs that emphasize a particular viewpoint.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Of course, you are free to make up your own personal 'alternative fact' definition, or you could agree to the standard popular understanding as given above.
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The War On Free Speech 25 Feb 2017 14:53 #151

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No, let wiki define hate speech:
Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation.[1][2] In the law of some countries, hate speech is described as speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it incites violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected group, or individual on the basis of their membership to the group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected group, or individual on the basis of their membership to the group. The law may identify a protected group by certain characteristics.[3][4][5] In the law of other countries, hate speech is not a legal term.[6] In some countries, a victim of hate speech may seek redress under civil law, criminal law, or both. A website which uses hate speech may be called a hate site. Most of these sites contain Internet forums and news briefs that emphasize a particular viewpoint.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Of course, you are free to make up your own personal 'alternative fact' definition, or you could agree to the standard popular understanding as given above.




You made my day!

:D :chuckle: :rofl: :larf: :killinme:

Soft revision for a start: truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/65850-10-shocking-facts-about-wikipedia-and-jimmy-wales.html


"Everyone must free their own mind. The door is always open, they must simply be brave enough to take the step."

- paddy of the dif pit :up: :up: :up: Plato's ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE in a nutshell. When will you be brave enough, paddy?
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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The War On Free Speech 25 Feb 2017 15:00 #152

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^ What's wrong with a bit of hate-speech here and there?

Aren't we allowed to hate or what? Aren't we allowed to hate the system and the ones upholding it and enslaving mankind?
Or should we only throw love and flowers at it according to bladdy_pake?
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^ What's wrong with a bit of hate-speech here and there?

Aren't we allowed to hate or what? Aren't we allowed to hate the system and the ones upholding it and enslaving mankind?
Or should we only throw love and flowers at it according to bladdy_pake?

Can you state, in your words Fliar, who you hate, without links to websites or memes and pictures?

Can you provide rational reasons for your hatred?
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The War On Free Speech 25 Feb 2017 18:07 #154

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^ Kay Murros explains it perfectly here:



"Only a fool talks endlessly about love, but forgets the hate."
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The War On Free Speech 18 Mar 2017 00:09 #156

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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The War On Free Speech 18 Mar 2017 09:11 #157

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(...)

1984 + 33 = ? by Alfred Schaefer


vid descr
1984 is here today. We have lost our ability to think and to speak clearly.
(...)


:right: Full comment and context: truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63116-holocaust-when-truth-is-outlawed-sylvia-stolz-speech.html?start=60#254112




Nec mergitur


Without free speech no search for Truth is possible;
without free speech no discovery of Truth is useful;
without free speech progress is checked,
and the nations no longer march forward
towards the nobler life which the future holds for man.

Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech.
The abuse dies in a day;
the denial slays the life of the people and entombs the hope of the race.



Charles Bradlaugh, Speech at Hall of Science c.1880

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
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The War On Free Speech 18 Mar 2017 10:19 #158

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Anger can be righteous and a powerful energy to be harnessed. Hate is a total waste of all that energy. All it does is consumes whoever feeds its flames.
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The War On Free Speech 24 Mar 2017 04:37 #159

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Amazon Mass-Bans Dissident Materials


Hundreds of Titles Erased within a Day


codoh.com/library/document/4266/



Btw, Horst Mahler's speech "We are fighting to win!", with 23k views,
German w/o English subs, is now blocked for Germany.

The subbed video is still available:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyGpIRY_qjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phKll4yszII
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~ J. W. v. Goethe

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The War On Free Speech 24 Mar 2017 09:47 #160

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Any right to free speech does not and should not guarantee a right to mass dissemination of that speech via a worldwide platform. Amazon is a private company who can remove whatever they want if they feel it will affect their sales.

If you don't like their service policy, feel free to try and peddle your wares on Nazi.com
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