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TOPIC: The War On Free Speech

The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 16:25 #21

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Yaaaayyyyy, we've been given Free Speech....
No, "we have not been given" Free Speech. Free Speech comes with our vocal cords, it's the essence of human life. Every individual has free speech, no matter what mosquitoing minions like yourself want to make of it, or rather destroy it.
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 16:36 #22

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Kinda agree with this OP.
There's a worrying trend in some UK University Student Unions to ban speakers whose points of view a few SU members don't agree with.
The excuse tendered is 'Safe Space'.
All it needs is for a few students to claim that having a particular speaker on campus will make them feel 'Unsafe' and that speaker can be banned.
Seems to me that is a slippery slope.
Why TF can't those students who don't agree with the speaker's topic simply NOT attend the meeting?
In my university days it was never any hardship for students NOT to attend lectures.
Some of them barely turned up for anything.
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The TROLL War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 18:15 #23

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THE T R O L L WAR ON FREE SPEECH


1. Supreme point of view

2. The troll knows best

3. Condescending & Patronising

4. Socialist (Smart and ‘caring’)

5. Narcissistic

6. Provocative

7. Dis-ruptive

8. Like to ask the questions, not answer questions

9. Control freaks obsessively dropping their 'scent mark' everywhere

10. Inflamed by anyone being not perfectly politically correct

11. ‘Moral’ Guardians of their own 'moral' codex

12. Classic insults: anti-Semite, Neo-Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier



Trolls use internet alerts to warn them when hot keywords are mentioned.
Keywords such as Holocaust, gas chambers, Hitler, National Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, Israel, Jew, Judaism, Zionism etc.

When those words are mentioned they are alerted and they go to investigate who is talking about what.

Initially they often explain where they had gone wrong and try to ‘educate’ people with their ideology.

THE way to spot the troll is the inflammatory language.




Extracted/adapted: truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63393-what-is-hasbara.html?start=380#146443


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I bet that anti-hasbara virtual scrapbook you've got is bulging with c+p jobs like that, eh?



I did not even mention the term "hasbara". Except in the link.
Good that you did. And according to this list you got 12 out of 12.

truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/61895-fighting-racism-implementing-multiculturalism.html?start=720#201394

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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 18:21 #24

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If you're entitled to your free speech, I'm entitled to mine, so enough with this pathetic "everybody who disagrees with me is a troll" bollocks. People like you just want to live in an echo chamber without any dissenting views. It's a common theme with tyrant lovers.
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 18:58 #25

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ragnarok wrote:
If you're entitled to your free speech, I'm entitled to mine, so enough with this pathetic "everybody who disagrees with me is a troll" bollocks. People like you just want to live in an echo chamber without any dissenting views. It's a common theme with tyrant lovers.


Novum also claims every F art by any old obscure troll is an opinion.

Other people are perfectly able to differentiate between controversial views and trolling.

Enjoying the pleasures of free speech also comes with the duty to behave decently, reasonably and respectfully.

Trolling is not only a nuisance to all except the trolls, but also totally anti-social.

Just my opionion.

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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Last Edit: 01 Apr 2016 19:05 by PFIZIPFEI.
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:05 #26

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ragnarok wrote:
If you're entitled to your free speech, I'm entitled to mine, so enough with this pathetic "everybody who disagrees with me is a troll" bollocks. People like you just want to live in an echo chamber without any dissenting views. It's a common theme with tyrant lovers.

The problem with your version and flavor of ''free speech'' is it insidiously opposes free speech.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:12 #27

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Do you want to explain how that works, or are you just going to leave it vague and shit-flingy?
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:20 #28

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Because you are quite clearly a ''progressive'' (that's regressive when you take the Orwellian spin out of it). You very much hold the beliefs and act like your average anti free speech ''social justice warrior'' moron, that's why.

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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:27 #29

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So, if I'm a "progressive" and that's a bad thing, are you a "regressive" and that's a good one?
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:38 #30

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I think you know exactly what I'm getting at, so don't try and play dumb.

You see the destruction of Europe, The West, and Christian civilization on the whole as ''progress''. That's what modern so called ''progressivism'' is all about. It's an insidious attack against mainly Europeans.

You know it too, and that's why you support mass immigration and other destructive so called ''progressive'' Nation Wrecking programs aimed solely at white Nations.

What you see as ''progress'' I see as regress and an attack against Europe.

Did that really need spelling out in black and white to you? No it didn't did it really. You know it already. You are just trying to play dumb in an effort to try and absolve yourself of any guilt.
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:41 #31

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Because you are quite clearly a ''progressive'' (that's regressive when you take the Orwellian spin out of it). You very much hold the beliefs and act like your average anti free speech ''social justice warrior'' moron, that's why.


Holy shit that vid is horrible.
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:50 #32

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Horribly patronising.

ps. @ zorro - care to point out where I've said I'm fully in favour of mass immigration, as opposed to merely saying we shouldn't scapegoat every migrant?
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:55 #33

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No. It's fully deserved where you ''social justice warrior'' lemmings are concerned. Who the cap fit let them wear it and all that..
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 19:59 #34

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I do all my posting here these days. I don't go on any protests in the real world. I must be the least active SJW on the internet. Just take comfort that I'm not spreading my dissent to a larger audience.
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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 20:00 #35

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Yes, to be sure "Social Justice" will never peek it's ugly head where dark and gooey recesses seek more projected insane company.

While Smedley Butler was going through his catharsis of conscience and exposing how bad the government and military bedfellows and bankers are - there were many other social upswells going on. Today we can easily forget what turmoil existed in the Norman Bethunes and Upton Sinclairs of the world who saw a need for change and no venue presented true changes. Is it different today?

Then we can wonder how a man like John Dos Passos or G. B. Shaw got taken in by rhetoric during the Stalinist era. Never has there been so many lives given for so little by so few. But will the sheep ever fight for what is right? We can sympathize with the intellectual with passion for what is RIGHT when there is no interest in learning or making a better world. The majority are sheep and content themselves with being screwed by people with high waders pushing them towards the cliff. They actually seem to enjoy having their back legs put into those boots or hearing the clickety-click of the heels when a salute is given to the next monster. The next monster might be a McCarthy or a Quisling it matters not to a person capable of reason and spiritual insight.

"John Dos Passos (1896-1970)

John Dos Passos is one of the most overtly political authors in this unit. Involved in many radical political movements, Dos Passos saw the expansion of consumer capitalism in the first decades of the twentieth century as a dangerous threat to the health of the nation. The son of unmarried Portuguese American parents, Dos Passos grew up in Chicago. He attended prestigious East Coast schools, first the Choate School and then Harvard University. He graduated from Harvard in 1916 and joined the war effort before the United States entered World War I, becoming a member of a volunteer ambulance corps and later serving in the American medical corps.

Following the war he became a freelance journalist, while also working on fiction, poetry, essays, and plays. He wrote a novel drawing on his war experiences, Three Soldiers (1921), but his 1925 novel Manhattan Transfer established him as a serious fiction writer and displayed many techniques that writers who followed him would emulate. Political reform underwrote much of his fiction, and in 1926 he joined the board of The New Masses, a Communist magazine. Though not a party member, Dos Passos participated in Communist activities until 1934, when the Communists' disruption of a Socialist rally convinced him that the Communists were more concerned with achieving power than with the social reform about which he cared passionately.

From 1930 to 1936, Dos Passos published three bitingly satirical novels about contemporary American life, The 42nd Parallel; 1919; and The Big Money, an excerpt of which is discussed in this unit. Together the novels form a trilogy called U.S.A., and they attack all levels of American society, from the wealthiest businessman to the leaders of the labor movement. Dos Passos believed that American society had been thoroughly corrupted by the greed its thriving capitalist system promoted, and he saw little hope for real reform of such an entrenched system. His novels experimented with new techniques, especially drawing on those of the cinema, a relatively new cultural form (see the Context "Mass Culture Invasion: The Rise of Motion Pictures," Unit 13). His "Newsreel" sections mimic the weekly newsreels shown before films at local cinemas, blending together a patchwork of clips from newspapers, popular music, and speeches.

Dos Passos's politics shifted radically following World War II, as he saw the political left, with which he had identified himself, becoming more restrictive of individual liberty than the political right. His trilogy District of Columbia (1952) reexamined American society from this new perspective, attacking political fanaticism and bureaucracy."


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The War On Free Speech 01 Apr 2016 20:02 #36

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Get the fuck outa here, troll. One doesn't have to point to any one post of yours that specifically states anything in particular. It's already there and in your face. Practically every post you make is an attack of some kind against people who see through all the Orwellian ''progressive'' nonsense. That in itself is more than enough to know what you are all about.
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The War On Free Speech 02 Apr 2016 11:34 #37

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If I was half the troll you make me out to be, you'd only be making my head swell with pride by responding so negatively, so why do you do it, fella? Compulsive behaviour disorder, or just easily rustled jimmies?
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The War On Free Speech 02 Apr 2016 11:46 #38

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ragnarok wrote:
Compulsive behaviour disorder...
Ragnatroll has found a mirror. Call the news! :larf:
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 11:45 #39

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Speech is the most fundamental ability of human beings separating us from the other animals.

Anyone wanting to forbid words coming out of mouths is a sick immoral bastard.

The only way to stop this madness on free speech is to not care; speak up. Never give in to those weasels
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You are changing your mind like a bat out of hell, "animal", aren't you,
at least when it comes to FREE SPEECH on certain topics.

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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 11:58 #40

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Gaia wrote:
ragnarok wrote:
Compulsive behaviour disorder...
Ragnatroll has found a mirror. Call the news! :larf:

After holding out for 3 days before responding, how do you think my cbd is progressing, Dr Gaia?
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