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TOPIC: The War On Free Speech

The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 17:47 #41

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Gaia wrote:
Speech is the most fundamental ability of human beings separating us from the other animals.

Anyone wanting to forbid words coming out of mouths is a sick immoral bastard.

The only way to stop this madness on free speech is to not care; speak up. Never give in to those weasels
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You are changing your mind like a bat out of hell, "animal", aren't you,
at least when it comes to FREE SPEECH on certain topics.

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What a work you put into the rehearsel of my satirical images. :thumbup:

But it's hard to tell if you're trolling or really really stupid.

Where oh where have I said that Flare or any other member of the nazbara crowd should be forbidden to speak their minds? :noway:

On the contrary; let it out, please. Cause only then it shows what people think.

So if Flare, you and all the others have the right to say what you want, I have the equal right to respond to that and say what I want.

You seem to think that Free Speech means that you have the right to say A but nobody else would be able to criticise that?

That's not free speech, that's neo-policor talk. And if you really think that way you are just as weasel as the current policors. :facepalm:

Free speech is universal. Not just for the ones repeating a certain story.
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 17:50 #42

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What about trolls? Should they be entitled to this free speech right also?
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 17:52 #43

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ragnarok wrote:
What about trolls? Should they be entitled to this free speech right also?
Ragnatroll, do you have problems understanding the word universal? :umm:
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 18:02 #44

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I understand the term fine. It's you that seems to have a problem deciding whether I'm just a garden variety troll, or a person with mental health problems who can't help what he is doing.
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I understand the term fine. It's you that seems to have a problem deciding whether I'm just a garden variety troll, or a person with mental health problems who can't help what he is doing.

Your autospsychoanalysis is yours, not mine and less my "decision".

I just take your behaviour in the different threads and conclude you're a troll.

Some people say "don't feed them". I just eat sad suckers as you for breakfast.
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 18:14 #46

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No "autopsychoanalysis" going on. You implied it yourself in another thread. Are you going back on your "zinger" now?
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 18:15 #47

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Right now the biggest impediment to free speech is knowing what will happen when you try to tell the general public the truth. Even close family suffer from cognitive dissonance/Pavlovian conditioning. In fact, laws criminalising free speech are having an effect opposite to that intended in some important cases. Intelligent sceptics start to wonder "why"? That can be an aha moment for some....
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 19:37 #48

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Gaia wrote:

What a work you put into the rehearsel of my satirical images. :thumbup:


Your compatriot Cinta is also very concerned about me overworking by simple c&p. You have more in common than living in Amsterdam xxx, haven't you ;)

What a work you put into the creation of your "satirical images", which will surely strike a chord with the antifa-jidf crowd :yup:
On the other hand the ADL might not be pleased by those "funny" pictures, except if you are this creative at their behest or with their tacit consent :cool:



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But it's hard to tell if you're trolling or really really stupid.

:D My comment is perfectly on topic.



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Where oh where (Cinta, is this you? :cool2:) have I said that Flare or any other member of the nazbara crowd should be forbidden to speak their minds? :noway:

Making fun of heaps of dead people - WITHOUT telling who they are, under which circumstances they died, where the pictures were taken, when and by whom at that - exposes quite a morbid sense of humour :hmm:



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On the contrary; let it out, please. Cause only then it shows what people think.

You could not have shown more blatantly what's on your mind! :larf:



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So if Flare, you and all the others have the right to say what you want, I have the equal right to respond to that and say what I want.

Absolutely! :) This is an "all inclusive" forum.



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You seem to think that Free Speech means that you have the right to say A but nobody else would be able to criticise that?

You seem to have used the fat crystal ball belly from your profile picture to come to this conclusion :chuckle:
if you think only you are able to criticise and satirise others.



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That's not free speech, that's neo-policor talk. And if you really think that way you are just as weasel as the current policors. :facepalm:

:D For "weasel" see my above comment and for "policors" take another look at your "satirical images". :D



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Free speech is universal. Not just for the ones repeating a certain story.

Criticising the non-policor reality, expressed by Flare - like you did in your "Flares or Flames" thread - means being über-policor.

So you are an unconscious über-policor, criticising Flare, a über-non-policor.

Got it?

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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 19:46 #49

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Absolutely! :) This is an "all inclusive" forum.

That's not quite true, is it, Eva? There are certain "elements, shall we say, that you'd love to exclude from your all inclusive environment.
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 19:53 #50

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ragnarok wrote:
Absolutely! :) This is an "all inclusive" forum.

That's not quite true, is it, Eva? There are certain "elements, shall we say, that you'd love to exclude from your all inclusive environment.


No.

Inclusive education on TZ means, that even you are tolerated to lower the level of the intellectual standard.

Go oyvey to the admin, he always has an open ear for your ilk, Hasby winner.


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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 19:55 #51

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Your compatriot Cinta is also very concerned about me overworking by simple c&p. You have more in common than living in Amsterdam xxx, haven't you ;)

I've seen good comments by Cinta. If you're suggesting sock puppeting I recommend buying a new crystal ball. She can tell her story for herself.
What a work you put into the creation of your "satirical images", which will surely strike a chord with the antifa-jidf crowd :yup:

It was not so much work. And I have nothing to do with antifa or jidf, I even doubt they visit this forum anyway. If they like the images, fine, if not, also no problem. I really don't care.
On the other hand the ADL might not be pleased by those "funny" pictures, except if you are this creative at their behest or with their tacit consent :cool:
Same for them.
Making fun of heaps of dead people - WITHOUT telling who they are, where the picture was taken, when and under which circumstances they died - exposes quite a morbid sense of humour :hmm:

Oh really? Then that humour is still a quite bit less insulting to the dead than just calling it "legitimised", right?
You seem to have used the fat crystal ball belly from your profile picture to come to this conclusion :chuckle:
if you think only you are able to criticise and satirise others.
That's not what I thought, no.
:D For "weasel" see my above comment and for "policors" take another look at your "satirical images". :D

If they're anything not, it's policor. None of my language is, hence my very first reply in this topic.
Criticising the "non-policor" story - like you did in your "Flares or Flames" thread - means being über-policor.
For a person who can only see two colours; black and white, indeed.

For people who see the multitude of variations in humans the narrative "the enemy of the enemy is my friend" is ridiculous.
So you are an unconscious über-policor, criticising Flare, a über-non-policor.
Got it?
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Flare is not über-non-policor. He follows exactly the neo-policor story which is main stream here; the "Hitler Was A Hero" narrative.

That stance goes with little resistance and less with arguments and satire. Hence my contribution in both forms.
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 19:57 #52

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
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Absolutely! :) This is an "all inclusive" forum.

That's not quite true, is it, Eva? There are certain "elements, shall we say, that you'd love to exclude from your all inclusive environment.


No.

Inclusive education on TZ means, that even you are tolerated to lower the level of the intellectual standard.

Go oyvey to the admin, he always has an open ear for your ilk, Hasby winner.


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I don't go whining to admin if I don't get on with another poster. You must be thinking of yourself, mein frau.
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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 20:00 #53

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FREE SPEECH includes voluntary silence.

I won't respond to walls of texts which are deliberately quoted incorrectly and
thus unreadable and above all I will not respond to disruptive Hasby winner trolls.




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L'chaim anyway.
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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The War On Free Speech 05 Apr 2016 20:06 #54

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That title beneath my username only means something in the tiny minds of the likes of yourself.
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
... deliberately quoted incorrectly...

This only further illustrates your compulsive paranoia. I've seen that more within the truth seeking "communities". It's a danger when seeing so much material by others which is deliberately false and faked.

I recommend you taking care of that, it's unhealthy and only hurts yourself.

1 fecking quote tag that I forgot to delete. :facepalm:
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The War On Free Speech 16 Apr 2016 12:34 #56

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Neo-Progressivism has gone unchallenged for too long and has metastasized into an authoritarian cancer that is consuming the Left...and liberals are silent.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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The War On Free Speech 16 Apr 2016 13:20 #57

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...an authoritarian cancer....

From the mouth of a plastic nazi. :larf: :larf: :larf:

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The War On Free Speech 17 Apr 2016 22:40 #58

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This is a prime example of PC and therefore I think it should be posted in all relevant threads:





Cinta wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Cinta wrote:
@ Flares

Glorifying war and militarism;what is the purpose of these video's
Do they turn you on or something ?


You don't mean it, do you? :cool2:

I very much appreciate Flare's input on this forum, for I can learn something
from his point of view and overall knowledge and the pictures/videos he posted
on the previous page are very interesting for everybody who is interested in
historical truth, for they are yet unseen rarities, at least to me.

You sound like someone who is complacent with the system narrative and
who made their peace with lies and corruption - ulterior motives included.

After all you never stop to learn, do you?



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Yeah let's learn about how to make war,and watch war planes drop their bombs,and
honor a dead leader who betrayed his people by suiciding himself, leading his army
and his beloved German people into despair.

So Pfizipfei,I will have to disappoint you,but I see no informational or didactical value
in watching these kinds of video's.
What informational value could these war planes possibly hold for you?

All those who glorify militarism will probably be the first ones to shit their pants when
they have to go and fight,and in situations where it really matters they will be the first
ones to run.

Oh and how I sound to you matters not ; I certainly won't stand next to you and
raise my right arm and shout : Heil Hitler !

A leader who is in his sane mind and wants to deprive people from their freedom
based on race,ethnicity,religion,political views,mental state,or sexual preferences
won't ever get a ''heil'' from me,so instead of raising my right arm, I would raise
my middle finger and say f * you to Adolf Hitler and his Nazi doctrine

Source: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/65759-what-if-everything-you-were-taught-about-world-war-ii-was-a-lie.html?start=3120#203581




Typical case of trying to claim the exclusive prerogative of interpretation
which needs no further explanation or response for everything is crystal clear from your comment.

If you don't like free speech on certain subjects, go have a cup of tea and some cookies
with your chosen by zax über-pc, anti-German, anti-free-speech friends

wikkikid
cousin_frothy
zax
cinta
annabelle
mykah
entrangemercenary1
Gaia

in your very own "Clear Talk Café"
or oyvey a bit in your very own Orwellian "Clarity Zone", where you are free to practice as much political correctness
as you wish, but don't you try to impose your 100% system-compatible views with regard to certain crucial topics on all
other members and on all other threads.

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Interesting to find you here on this 'Free Speech' thread Pfiz.
I refer of course to our earlier exchanges where you were wanting to have my posted link to a BOOK expunged from TZ.
You will remember that book link was for 'Sexuality and German Fascism' which explains when and why the German Fascists adopted their mythical symbology.
www.amazon.co.uk/Sexuality-German-Fascism-D-Herzog/dp/1571815511/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461061371&sr=1-1&keywords=sexuality+and+german+fascism
How would such an action, if carried out; promote freedom of speech and expression do you think?
'Burning' a BOOK link on an online forum by forcible removal of said link.
That advocates free speech does it?
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Eva wants free speech for her and her kind, but everyone else has to pay for it, with their lives, if necessary.
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