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This Is National Socialism 02 May 2016 23:22 #81

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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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This Is National Socialism 02 May 2016 23:35 #82

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If only :chuckle:


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You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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This Is National Socialism 05 May 2016 16:31 #84

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Reality check post.
Axis lost.
Allies won.
National Socialism didn't last very long at all in Germany.
Basically it didn't work.
The NSDAP had some super economic ideas in the early days, they were socialists.
It all went tits up once Nationalism supplanted socialism as the central plank of their policies.
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This Is National Socialism 05 May 2016 16:51 #85

The fact Germany had some 4 million tons of bombs in a 6 year period dropped onto it's cities (mainly it's civilian populations) might have something to do with National Socialism ''Not working.'' :roll:
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This Is National Socialism 05 May 2016 16:55 #86

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and how many millions of tons of bombs did the Nazis drop?
how many millions died in their acts of aggression?

War sucks.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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This Is National Socialism 05 May 2016 17:23 #87

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Zorro wrote:
The fact Germany had some 4 million tons of bombs in a 6 year period dropped onto it's cities (mainly it's civilian populations) might have something to do with National Socialism ''Not working.'' :roll:

Yep war is a bastard and no mistake.
Factor out civilian bombings on both sides though and look at the battles the Allies and Axis engaged each other.
It's still a 'win' for the allies.
Fess up buddy your lads were a bit shit all told.
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This Is National Socialism 05 May 2016 17:48 #88

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GMP wrote:
Zorro wrote:
The fact Germany had some 4 million tons of bombs in a 6 year period dropped onto it's cities (mainly it's civilian populations) might have something to do with National Socialism ''Not working.'' :roll:

Yep war is a bastard and no mistake.
Factor out civilian bombings on both sides though and look at the battles the Allies and Axis engaged each other.
It's still a 'win' for the allies.
Fess up buddy your lads were a bit shit all told.
:)

It was a win for the Jewish Money Power. EVERYONE else lost
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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This Is National Socialism 05 May 2016 19:14 #89

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rodin wrote:
GMP wrote:
Zorro wrote:
The fact Germany had some 4 million tons of bombs in a 6 year period dropped onto it's cities (mainly it's civilian populations) might have something to do with National Socialism ''Not working.'' :roll:

Yep war is a bastard and no mistake.
Factor out civilian bombings on both sides though and look at the battles the Allies and Axis engaged each other.
It's still a 'win' for the allies.
Fess up buddy your lads were a bit shit all told.
:)

It was a win for the Jewish Money Power. EVERYONE else lost

Exactly.

Yesterday, in Holland in which we hold 2 minutes silence every year for 'the people who died for our freedom' during WW II for "Liberation-day" which is today every 5th of May.

It's just part of the brainwashing spectacle that 'tyranny has been overwon' and 'never again'... also lots of WW II movies, documentaries and series playing these days.

Well.. there have been 65 wars since 1945 and Cultural Marxism is running RAMPANT in the west. Too bad all those soldiers of the allied forces have died for the wrong cause, as they were all brainwashed on massive scale, thinking they were doing the right thing.

You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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This Is National Socialism 06 May 2016 13:52 #90

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When I was a soldier stationed in Germany with the British Army On the Rhine ( BAOR) - we used to have monthly 'political education' lectures.
You had to attend.
All those lectures were about 'The Soviet Threat'.
That was back in the late 60s and early 70s when the 'cold war' was on.
No way did we get any Marxist indoctrination it was all 'against' Marxism, Communism and the Russian 'menace'.
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This Is National Socialism 06 May 2016 16:49 #91

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GMP wrote:
When I was a soldier stationed in Germany with the British Army On the Rhine ( BAOR) - we used to have monthly 'political education' lectures.
You had to attend.
All those lectures were about 'The Soviet Threat'.
That was back in the late 60s and early 70s when the 'cold war' was on.
No way did we get any Marxist indoctrination it was all 'against' Marxism, Communism and the Russian 'menace'.

Apparently it didn't really work for you by the looks of your avatar. :larf: :larf: :larf: :facepalm:
You can’t understand the world without understanding the Truth of WW2 and you can’t truly understand WW2 without understanding the Truth of WW1. And to get the full picture you need to understand who the German people were as a race and culture before these world wars were created to crush them.

Germany did not start WW1 or WW2… the Germans have been the victims.
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This Is National Socialism 06 May 2016 16:53 #92

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GMP wrote:
When I was a soldier stationed in Germany with the British Army On the Rhine ( BAOR) - we used to have monthly 'political education' lectures.
You had to attend.
All those lectures were about 'The Soviet Threat'.
That was back in the late 60s and early 70s when the 'cold war' was on.
No way did we get any Marxist indoctrination it was all 'against' Marxism, Communism and the Russian 'menace'.

Fake enemy, fake weapons, all sides under Jewish control... just like now....
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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This Is National Socialism 06 May 2016 17:03 #93

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Flare wrote:
GMP wrote:
When I was a soldier stationed in Germany with the British Army On the Rhine ( BAOR) - we used to have monthly 'political education' lectures.
You had to attend.
All those lectures were about 'The Soviet Threat'.
That was back in the late 60s and early 70s when the 'cold war' was on.
No way did we get any Marxist indoctrination it was all 'against' Marxism, Communism and the Russian 'menace'.

Apparently it didn't really work for you by the looks of your avatar. :larf: :larf: :larf: :facepalm:

LOL
I like to keep an open mind.
I'm not a Marxist- Leninist BTW my avatar I pinched from Gremlin on DIF and used here for shits n giggles.
I'm a card carrying Co- Operative Party ( UK) member.
The Co- Op Party advised the ( then socialist) NSDAP back in the early 1930s.
After the army I went through nursing school then university.
Every other lecturer at the uni was a Marxist so I had to sit through exactly the opposite political lectures to those I'd endured in the army.
They were all BS.
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This Is National Socialism 09 May 2016 16:55 #94

Is it Time for the Rehabilitation of National Socialism?




There are many forms of nationalism that have evolved to meet a variety of needs throughout history and depending upon one’s perspective and the circumstances prevailing at the time, they have been variously viewed as: heroic liberating movements, at one end of the scale; as movements of oppression and genocide at the other extreme; and every shade in between. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

In Germany during the 1930s, racial nationalism in the form of German National Socialism, came to be regarded by ethnic Germans as a movement of heroic liberation from the oppressive conditions that had been imposed upon Germany following her defeat during World War One. Furthermore, as the Wehrmacht later advanced across the Soviet Union during the early years of World War Two, the German conquerors were regarded by many Ukrainians and ethnic Germans living under Communist oppression in Russia, as liberators and their arrival seen as a cause for celebration.

Since the end of World War Two however, mainstream liberal and left-wing political reactions to the horrors of that conflict have caused German National Socialism, and by implication all forms of European racial nationalism, to be regarded as oppressive and inherently genocidal in nature.

Since World War Two, German National Socialism has been widely portrayed, throughout the mass media of the West and through our education systems, as the epitome of evil: as an ideology positing the German people as a ‘master race’; as an ideology intent upon world conquest; as an ideology designating all non-White races and all non-Germanic peoples as sub-human; and as an ideology hell bent on physically exterminating those supposedly sub-human peoples, together with every last vestige of their cultures, in the most depraved and barbaric fashion.

Wehrmacht Soldiers Bandaging Wounded WomanAs a consequence, we routinely encounter stories that the German people under National Socialism, created concentration camps in which enemies of their regime, together with prisoners of war and people from all minority groups, most especially the Jews, were subjected to imprisonment, slavery, starvation, non-consensual medical experimentation, beatings, torture, summary execution for the most trivial reasons, and of course genocide by gassing in specially converted lorries and buildings and gas chambers, specially constructed for the purpose. Furthermore it has been alleged that the Germans made soap from the bodies of the people they had murdered, shrunken heads, ashtrays from the skulls of their victims and lampshades from their skin.

Despite this demonising of the National Socialist regime, there have ever since the end of World War Two been a minority of German people who have denied the worst of these allegations as wartime propaganda fabrications that have been perpetuated for political reasons, and members of this German minority have been prepared to go to prison under laws enacted to make so-called ‘Holocaust denial’ illegal. Indeed, not only have a minority of Germans been prepared to speak out in this way, but so too have an increasing number of individuals, predominantly from other European countries, and as time has passed, certain of the more grotesque allegations, which were at one time regarded as true, have since been recognised as absurd untruths — as wartime black propaganda fabrications, of the sort that this minority of Germans and others have claimed all along.

No-one now asserts that the Germans made soap, or shrunken heads, or ashtrays, or lampshades from the bodies of people they are alleged to have murdered. In an age when DNA testing is widely available, it is no longer credible to maintain these fictions.

Wehrmacht Soldier on Mototbike Speaks to WomenFurthermore, whereas it was once claimed that every German concentration camp was the site of genocidal gassings, such claims have since been scaled down, such that only those camps that were during the post-war period inaccessible to Western academics — those located in Eastern Europe – are now claimed to have been ‘Death Camps’, and the camps that were easily available for inspection by Western academics have been downgraded to the status of mere forced labour camps. The reason for this scaling down being the obvious absence of any large gas chambers capable of being used for anything other than the routine fumigation of clothing to eradicate lice and other disease bearing agents.

Also, whereas it was once claimed that three-million of the alleged six-million Jews murdered by the Germans were killed at Auschwitz in Poland, despite the existence of German camp records showing a total of approximately 70,000 deaths, approximately 29,000 of which were Jews, the Polish authorities have since revised the claimed total number of victims at Auschwitz down to just 1.1 million.

All of these developments have tended to draw the World War Two narrative regarding the oppressive and allegedly genocidal nature of German National Socialism closer to the assertions of the German minority referred to earlier, and it is a great pity therefore that many European countries, including Germany, persist in retaining laws that are obviously now outmoded, discredited and iniquitous, outlawing critical examination of the facts surrounding the so-called Holocaust.

These laws were implemented in order to demonstrate that war crimes allegedly committed by the Germans, were so demonstrably heinous, that no-one should ever be allowed to question the damning allegations made by the victorious Allies and Jewish survivors. Such an assertion however is no longer credible and the retention of these laws is increasingly being seen as a desperate politically motivated attempt to suppress the truth, to deny freedom of enquiry and to deny freedom of speech.

Undoubtedly, large numbers of people did die in ghastly conditions in the German concentration camps which were predominantly forced labour camps, and this should not be overlooked, but so did large numbers of Germans, both prisoners of war and civilians die in ghastly conditions in Allied concentration camps and forced labour camps towards the end of World War Two and after.

Wehrmacht Boy SoldiersTwo wrongs don’t make a right, but as the victors in World War Two, the Allies have applied a double standard in their dealings with the issue of war crimes. War crimes allegedly committed by the Germans have been accepted almost without question as the gospel truth, no matter how far-fetched or exaggerated they appear. The Germans have been defamed as a result, and National Socialism as an ideology has been made taboo, whereas war crimes allegedly committed by the Allies, which are in many cases directly comparable to those alleged against the Germans, have in the majority of cases never been officially recognised, let alone properly investigated.

War is a ghastly process in which two opposing sides inflict violence upon each other with the intention or terrorising their opponent into submission or else destroying them utterly.

No side emerges with clean hands from a war, particularly a war on the scale of the two World Wars of the last century. The desperate and ghastly nature of warfare means that inevitably so-called war crimes are committed, as we humans are not able to remain dispassionate in situations in which we see our comrades injured and dying all around us, and human nature being what it is, some degree of hot-headed retribution, unjustifiable in the cold light of day, is always summarily visited upon the vanquished. Read more Here

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This Is National Socialism 09 May 2016 16:57 #95

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nationalism sucks.
it turns people into bigots and paranoid fools.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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This Is National Socialism 09 May 2016 17:22 #96

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Perhaps that is a rational response when you have people not of your nation manipulating and poking their NOSES into your business. When interests other than your own interest controls your currency, its value etc., that is maddening.


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I thought these excerpted comments - and some of the following as well - are worth ;) being posted on this thread:




PFIZIPFEI wrote:
@ll

Did you ever note that when the ... unspeakables ;) ... have no facts or arguments,
they simply try to occupy the "object"/"subject"?

e. g.

Hitler was a Jew
Hitler was a Rothschild child :D
Hitler was a British agent
Hitler was a zionist stooge
National Socialists were controlled by zionists
National Socialists were Jews .....

and so on and so forth.


This is quite funny to watch, when they are using this
smokescreen tactic smearing the "object"/"subject" by
association out of mere despair because there is nothing
they can prove at all.


:chuckle:
truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/67078-excerpts-of-zorro-a-moderator-who-abuses-his-entrusted-position.html#208875



Flare wrote:
peacenik wrote:
General George Patton was fond of saying, " when everyone is thinking the same, then someone isn't thinking". Me thinks you could be that someone? :yup: ;)

Look, the only thing you are used to for all of your life (with the rest of us), is being grown up in a democracy where you have 30 different parties set up to 'divide & conquer' the people. The media also helps a good hand in that tactic. Nothing really works and everything seems to go backwards eventually.

What National Socialism did back in the day was:

- UNITE the people
- Free them from economic slavery
- Get rid of depravity/degeneration
- Puts the people and family first
- Animal rights
- Protection of the environment
- Encouraging a good work-environment

Now who wouldn't want that kind of system..? Only a fool would go against that.
truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/67078-excerpts-of-zorro-a-moderator-who-abuses-his-entrusted-position.html#208894



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because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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This Is National Socialism 12 May 2016 15:40 #98

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Voltaire wrote:
Perhaps that is a rational response when you have people not of your nation manipulating and poking their NOSES into your business. When interests other than your own interest controls your currency, its value etc., that is maddening.

Maybe National Socialism was a rational response to those conditions you describe back in Germany during the 1930s.
Could it be the same today though when we still have very similar circumstances in the Euro zone?
I doubt that because National Socialism has such a bad reputation.
For sure there's a rise in the far right but the serious far right contenders distance themselves from National Socialism to avoid being branded Nazis.
AfD seems to me to have some sound economic ideas plus an appeal to those who are fed up with the status quo.
AfD is pretty far to the right but deffo not 'National Socialist'.
Early NSDAP economics were well to the left as far as Co-Operative principles went and IMO quite sound.
Sadly the early economic 'steer' was subsumed as the party grew into greater power.
AfD strikes me as an old order 'Thatcherite' conservative cause, none the worse for that as far as attracting votes is concerned.
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This Is National Socialism 14 May 2016 21:48 #99

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I need to try to understand what this very intelligent guy is saying by listening again

www.dailystormer.com/aryan-insights-kurt-roemer-national-socialist-economics-for-the-modern-world/
Kurt Roemer from SFecon joins us today for Aryan Insights to explain his ideas for a modernised National Socialist economy.

His system is called The San Francisco Model of Economic Adjustment, or SFecon for short and Kurt has taught at San Francisco State University and the University of San Francisco, his students have published academic papers on his model and he is due to present one of his own in Lisbon this summer. Our enemies have accused him of being a nazi, an anti-semite and a racist in their attempts to silence him, but his students were so supportive of his ideas that they continued to work with him even after he had been removed from his position.

Kurt’s system works for the benefit of the people, instead of the people working for the benefit of the system, with profits being paid out in dividends to the people who most deserve it. A computer simulation has been created, making all the calculations required to solve the problems inherent in our current economic model, which was created by Jews at the end of the war and requires a constant increase in debt just to pay the compound interest.

Kurt talks about what the problems are in our current paradigm, how the National Socialists attempted to solve them and the potential flaws to their solution which he has corrected. He also talks about the anti-western bias he encountered when at MIT as a student and then later at universities as an instructor. He explains why the Austrian school of economics goes against the western scientific tradition and just what he means by western scientific tradition. He also talk about the different responses to corruption among the races and how the Asians who are supposed to be so clever, have no scruples about cheating and even encourage it.

He describes how all debts used to be regularly zeroed in our past and explains why this needs to happen again now. He explains why going back to the gold standard would not be a good idea and how a decent economic system should not require any taxes to be paid at all.

Finally he encourages students to challenge their instructors and invites economists to test his model and see for themselves whether it works or not.

It is not enough just to condemn the banks and the usury system, we need to have another solution that we can offer people, one that is designed to function within an ethnically homogenous state. The San Francisco Model of Economic Adjustment sounds like it could be just that solution and it reflects our own traditions instead of Jewish ones too.

When he came up with his model he did not identify as a nationalist - he just saw the model as being best for the people.

His site (which so far is beyond my comprehension of the material)


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Kurt Roemer's economic model is no way 'new' it is in fact classical Marxism with an added dash of state-socialist ( Stalin era) imagining.
It doesn't actually 'work' outside of the paper it is written on.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs- As DEFINED BY THE STATE."
Romer plagiarises Marx's Labour Theory of Value...
www.marxist.com/in-defence-of-ltv.htm
...to put an n value on 'leisure' time.
page 18 here..
www.sfecon.com/Economic%20Calculation.pdf
Equating that to 1-hour of work 'buys' one hour of leisure.
Hence everyone takes the same leisure for the same cost.
Bit tough if you enjoy expensive hobbies such as flying planes for fun, not so bad if you enjoy relatively inexpensive pastimes such as birdwatching.
Romer dresses up his ideas in lots of opaque symbolic logic.
( NOT equations, they are pictorial 'thoughts' represented as symbols rather than written in words).
Easiest way in is page 22 here...
www.sfecon.com/Economic%20Calculation.pdf
The old communist 'water wheel' image of how the socialist economy best 'flows'.
That is by the state owning all the water, plus the river bed PLUS the state controlling all the egress points for and usages of the water ( which represents money flowing through the system).
It's been tried before and it failed because people are far too messy and independent minded to be constrained by statist models.
Some fecker ( usually a party member) is sure to set up his own unofficial water wheel somewhere along the system then creaming off a slice of the action for himself and his chums.
Others will dip their buckets into the water as and when they can.
Entrepreneurial,sorts will get together and build their own canals and water wheels unless the State stops them which it will try to do but , eventually fail - ( see 'Stalin's Kolkhoz' here... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_five-year_plan_(Soviet_Union).
Those 'co-operative' owned and run water wheels share out the profits amongst members whereas all the State's ever-diminishing water-wheel profits go to the state.
Every enterprising peasant along the water courses in remote areas is also busy building their own water wheel in hopes that the KGB don't come a calling to smash it up and consign them to Siberia.
Eventually the State-run water ( money supply) dries up and capitalism and or co-operativism takes over cos those models actually work.
Everybody is free to do what they want with the water ( the money they have earned or been given via welfare) in their own buckets without state sanction but with the state taking a cup full or two of water out of each bucket to fund state projects such as paying for welfare.
Hope that helps Voltaire
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