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TOPIC: Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong.

Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 12:18 #1

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False-Flag/ Hoax claimants are always wrong.
Our chums pick and choose to construct a narrative that suits them - from what?
Reportage, filmed during an incident if any such exists.
Online and print media reports of the incident after it happened.
'Eyewitness' accounts recorded after the incident.
All the above are unreliable.
How can our friends have solid facts?
They weren't there so build their imaginings on foundations of shifting sand.
Memories, recollections, viewpoints all of which clash and often contradict each other.
Our False-Flag/ Hoax claimant chums often make huge efforts to construct their own narrative myths about incidents.
It's what like to do because owning their home-made 'special knowledge' makes them feel 'special'.
Unfortunately their imagined 'special knowledge, is always, as are its imaginers ... WRONG.
:)
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 12:35 #2

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What kind of ridiculous topic is this? Do you feel like stirring up some shit today? :larf: :facepalm:

False flags are as old as since war has been waged and is a common tactic to start one.

And hoaxes do exist as the evidence for it is overwhelming.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 12:43 #3

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www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/41-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html

I think being aware that human beings and organisations they may work for are capable of such things is not such a bad thing.

Reports of the old problem > reaction > solution go as far back as antiquity, and im sure homo sapiens were doing such things even further back.

Ive had so called 'mates' (as well as others who didnt pretend so much) false flag me personally with relatively petty shit, to gain an advantage in some way... ie do a bad deed and spread the word that it was me, that kind of thing.

Now if regular joes are more than capable of such things, the people with much more money, power, and things to gain might be more inclined, and more able, than joe.

And its not just used for political/military strategy even though many in that link i posted above are... I am of the opinion that false flag type occurances or perhaps better referred to as problem > reaction > solution have taken place when corporations (via the help of complicit politicians) want to take control of water sources, food production and so on. Divert water, claim drought/climate change... then change the 'acts' to suit, shake out the little guys and laugh all the way to the bank.

It just boils down to considering human nature basically, and homo sapiens is the most cunning creature on this earth, many homo sapiens are more than capable of P > R > S
1365 = 1

1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 12:56 #4

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GMP wrote:
False-Flag/ Hoax claimants are always wrong.
:)



From @ 25sec footage I calibrated and measured the acceleration. = g = demolition = false flag

From this one example your premise is a busted flush. From this premise I was able to see global media and government conspiracy at work, of course over 200 years later than a fellow Edinburgher, John Robison

www.conspiracyarchive.com/PROOFS_OF_A_CONSPIRACY_John_Robison.pdf
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

"Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 13:16 #5

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GMP wrote:
False-Flag/ Hoax claimants are always wrong.
Our chums pick and choose to construct a narrative that suits them - from what?
Reportage, filmed during an incident if any such exists.
Online and print media reports of the incident after it happened.
'Eyewitness' accounts recorded after the incident.
All the above are unreliable.
How can our friends have solid facts?
They weren't there so build their imaginings on foundations of shifting sand.
Memories, recollections, viewpoints all of which clash and often contradict each other.
Our False-Flag/ Hoax claimant chums often make huge efforts to construct their own narrative myths about incidents.
It's what like to do because owning their home-made 'special knowledge' makes them feel 'special'.
Unfortunately their imagined 'special knowledge, is always, as are its imaginers ... WRONG.
:)

The official narrative of the sinking of the USS Maine was a hoax.
Conveniently for the USA this justified the Spanish/USA war.
There are many,many, more examples of this that cannot be disputed.
The Mexico border skirmish which started the USA Mexico war for example.
Do you wish me to carry on with more examples?
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 15:51 #6

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Great responses so far.
Keep em coming.
I posted a similar thread over on DIF and that's had some good replies too.
Not seeking to stir up shit Flare just posting my thoughts and interested in what others think.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 16:16 #7

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The Alamo , Mexican civil war.

We are brainwashed to believe that it was a tiny group
fighting the tyrannical Santa Anna.

But the truth is the Alamo defenders were terrorists.
Unhappy that Mexico had abolished slavery and were
fighting the Mexican govt. for this reason.

But there is a lesson to be learnt if you don't limit immigration.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 16:19 #8

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hokuspokus wrote:
The Alamo , Mexican civil war.

We are brainwashed to believe that it was a tiny group
fighting the tyrannical Santa Anna.

But the truth is the Alamo defenders were terrorists.
Unhappy that Mexico had abolished slavery and were
fighting the Mexican govt. for this reason.

But there is a lesson to be learnt if you don't limit immigration.

'The Alamo' was a great movie and probably about as close to the truth of what happened as were any contemporary reports or the myth and tourist industry that grew up about The Alamo afterwards.
i.e. Not at all true.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 16:22 #9

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Why have two separate threads about the exact same topic?

truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/67380-let-s-list-all-the-terror-hoaxes.html?limitstart=0

They need to be merged.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 16:28 #10

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Sounds fair enough to me.
Make it so Mr Zorro
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 17:02 #11

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Rorkes Drift.

Funny that the day after the British Army were defeated a bunch of engineers
fought night and day etc etc you know the story.

There was a skirmish and this was blown out of all proportion in the newspapers
because of the events the day before.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 03 Jul 2016 17:05 #12

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Charge of the Light Brigade too. That was spun in the press to make it look like some sort of victory..
Lord Cardigan - Worst strategist EVER.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 04 Jul 2016 10:03 #13

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GMP wrote:
False-Flag/ Hoax claimants are always wrong.
Our chums pick and choose to construct a narrative that suits them - from what?

'Picking and constructing' might lead to wrong results, indeed.

The question 'Cui bono?' in combination with MIH or LIH (make it happen or let it happen) shifts the individual incident in brighter light. Common sense and critical self research might form a proper opinion.

BTW: I think this topic here is a 'FF/Hoax' from GMP :coolio: Why? Because 'FF/Hoax claimants are always wrong'. GMP surely knows, that this is not true. :cool2:, so why use this term? :roll:
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 04 Jul 2016 11:48 #14

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Stavros from Crete says that all Cretans are liars.
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Thoughtful reply, thankyou Steven.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 04 Jul 2016 15:02 #15

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GMP wrote:
Stavros from Crete says that all Cretans are liars.
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Stavros? Might be a cousin from Epimenides?

Liars - all of them! :D
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 05 Jul 2016 14:11 #16

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GMP wrote:
Lord Cardigan - Worst strategist EVER.

That would be Lord North
Keep your spirit level
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 08 Jul 2016 12:45 #17

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dentedarthur wrote:
GMP wrote:
Lord Cardigan - Worst strategist EVER.

That would be Lord North

No It was deffo Lord Cardigan who led the Charge of the Light Brigade.
I'm no military genius but FFS dudes on horses waving feckin swords charging towards lines of dudes armed with long range and accurate rifles.
That was never going to be a success was it?
Lord Cardigan was a prick.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 08 Jul 2016 12:55 #18

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Jon Snow would never have done something as stupid as that.

Oh, wait... just watched episode 9, season 6.
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 08 Jul 2016 12:57 #19

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ragnarok wrote:
Jon Snow would never have done something as stupid as that.

Oh, wait... just watched episode 9, season 6.

Bleddy good battle that was in S6 episode 9.
You'll love S6 episode 10.
We saw that this week.
Excellent
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Why 'False-Flag/ Hoax' claimants are ALWAYS wrong. 08 Jul 2016 14:33 #20

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Lord Raglan wrote the order which Cardigan misinterpreted. Raglan meant for the cavalry to capture guns which the Russians were taking away. Those guns were not in Cardigan's line of sight, so he charged the only guns he could see.


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