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There weren't no Ripper 02 Dec 2017 18:35 #41

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Gaia wrote: Great link G :nono:
Here's a colour version of that photo

Now does that GY look like it's been added later (the spacing's all out)?
There's the whole wall to write on, but not room to finish the long word? :conf:
Also there's a discolouration on the wall to the right of the paw print - looks like something was scrubbed
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There weren't no Ripper 02 Dec 2017 18:51 #42

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Glad you liked them. ;)

Isn't it "convenient", the Ripper Story was broadcasted just when Conan Doyle started writing...?

The grandmother of school shootings - Fakeologist.com
Yeah indeed the way Pulp Fiction foreshadows certain events just adds to the Serial Killer mythology whether be real/fiction or so called real-life events as you say. It’s a great fear control tool though either way especially on unsolved crimes like Jack The Ripper and the Zodiac Killer.
Interesting to note that a lot of so-called modern-day forensic stuff was supposedly influenced by Holmes who coincidentally started writing around the time of Jack The Ripper:

When Conan Doyle created his literary lion in 1887 it was just before the Jack the Ripper murders occurred in Victorian London. Six murders were committed in less than 90 days, and the police were stymied. The crime scenes had been contaminated and evidence collection was not part of police procedure. The crimes were never solved. Conan Doyle’s first Sherlock adventure, A Study in Scarlet, featured Holmes applying methods that would be used 120 years later: he protected the crime scene, searched for trace evidence, smelled the surroundings, measured everything and devised deductions.

www.gulf-times.com/culture/238/details/374446/sherlock-holmes%E2%80%99-influence-on-real-life-crime-solving-

A great Sherlock Holmes movie which features jack the ripper is Murder By Decree (1979)
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There weren't no Ripper 03 Dec 2017 02:16 #43

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Indeed! It's not escaped my attention that Angela Lansbury was caught up in the whole Manson parade. Apparently her property was a hang out of the so-called Family and her daughter carried written permission to travel with them. They quickly moved out the way to Ireland afterwards. Prior to this she had roles in films including: Gaslight, Dorean Gray & Manchurian Candidate. Probably most famously though, she was the lead in "Murder, She Wrote"; the TV series in which, the Cops are happy to let an Author take part in official investigations, never question why she (and her relatives) are constantly on the scenes of murders and when she finally confronts the killer with their crime, they always immediately break to give a full confession (seemingly to unburden themselves of the guilt). :larf:

Have you noticed how on TV, Detectives invariably have superhuman characteristics (and typically drive a fancy car). They never bodge the case and people are always happy to chat with them casually (off the record). I'm talking about the classics like: Morse, Midsummer Murders, Taggart, Agatha Christie, Columbo, Ruth Rendell, Prime Suspect and of course Sherlock.
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There weren't no Ripper 03 Dec 2017 02:30 #44

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monk.link wrote:
Indeed! It's not escaped my attention that Angela Lansbury was caught up in the whole Manson parade. Apparently her property was a hang out of the so-called Family and her daughter carried written permission to travel with them. They quickly moved out the way to Ireland afterwards. Prior to this she had roles in films including: Gaslight, Dorean Gray & Manchurian Candidate. Probably most famously though, she was the lead in "Murder, She Wrote"; the TV series in which, the Cops are happy to let an Author take part in official investigations, never question why she (and her relatives) are constantly on the scenes of murders and when she finally confronts the killer with their crime, they always immediately break to give a full confession (seemingly to unburden themselves of the guilt). :larf:

Have you noticed how on TV, Detectives invariably have superhuman characteristics (and typically drive a fancy car). They never bodge the case and people are always happy to chat with them casually (off the record). I'm talking about the classics like: Morse, Midsummer Murders, Taggart, Agatha Christie, Columbo, Ruth Rendell, Prime Suspect and of course Sherlock.
Good point. :thumbup:

Add Maigret, always solving everything. Used to read it as a kid.
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There weren't no Ripper 03 Dec 2017 21:39 #45

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Clouseau wasn't that good and Cato was hopeless.
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There weren't no Ripper 03 Dec 2017 22:18 #46

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So obviously if your heavily pregnant wife got gruesomely murdered, along with some friends and associates, you'd be devastated and in a deep state of grief (shock even) - but still pose next to the blood for Time magazine. :roll:

This is on the back of filming Rosemary's Baby, in which a Satanic cult drug and impregnate a woman in order to birth a child of Satan. We're told that he originally wanted Tate as the lead (middle name Marie), but Farrow seems almost like a double. It features a character called Roman, who's part of a coven who drug her, give her potions, and oversee her rape by what she perceives as a demon. They tell her the child died at birth, but when she discovers it they persuade her that being it's mother will be worthwhile and so she goes along with it.
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There weren't no Ripper 21 Jan 2018 23:06 #47

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The Head of the Navy of Vietnam, said "In order to really fight the Communists you've gotta stop your sexual activity." - the Vietnamese Navy was told yesterday. Now this is the same people, Mr Key and the Fascists and the same people in Greece and the people in South Vietnam who are coming-on the kids; their sexual fantasies; their fears. That their kids could do what they never could do. I'd like to do a whole show on Sexual Repressions and Fascism and "Coming Down"! So in the Summer of '67 & '68, I knew that the Hippies were being handed out (I had a friend that worked at the Diggers and they were being handed out) Bad Acid by disguised Agent Provocateurs to begin to burn their bellies out and drive their minds insane.
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There weren't no Ripper 11 Jun 2018 23:39 #48

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So you have a crime show on telly, on the premise that the public have a role in solving crime...

...then the presenter gets hit in an unsolvable way.
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There weren't no Ripper 18 Mar 2019 13:50 #49

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UKTV's Yesterday channel is usually obsessed with the notion of "Serial Killers" (almost as much as the Disney [sorry] "History" channel is with Hitler).

uktvplay.uktv.co.uk/shows/nazi-murder-mystery/watch-online

I happened to catch a show called "A Serial Killer in Berlin". My ears pricked up when they stated that most people wrongly assume Criminal Profiling was a 70's FBI invention, when in fact it dates back to Nazi Germany.

A common trope is that the WWs, particularly "The Blitz", were some kind of golden age of social togetherness, where everyone was helping each other out any way they could. However, there is evidence to suggest that all was not so rosy, for example, the Black Market (esp. food) and stats regarding (apparently) fatal accidents.

They look at a series of murders in wartime Berlin, that were eventually attributed to a train worker (because the bodies were all in the vicinity of the railway line, often seemingly thrown from the train). However, the murders didn't seem to follow a common pattern: some were stabbings, others blunt head trauma, some rapes, others seemingly beatings. They didn't seem to be robbed of their possessions.

So the guy they named "The S-Bahn Murderer" was called Paul Ogorzow, of humble Polish origin, a signalman and previously a farm and steel labourer. He was married with 2 kids and lived in cheap housing on allotments he tended. He was apparently popular with neighbours (who even spoke up for him years later). He was also a long term Nazi member and had risen to the rank of Squad Leader.

There was this super sleuth detective in a special police bureau they set up, who did the profiling and eventually managed to extract confessions and a slightly suspect amount of detail about how the crimes were committed. There's a story that bringing in a tray of skulls of the victims finally tipped him into confessing. After this they convened a special Court to quickly convict him and have him executed.

At the time, the sleuth was hailed as a hero and prodigy of criminal investigation. Later, seemingly at odds, he became one of the zealots rounding people up, getting them to dig a ditch some place out-of-town and then shooting them into it.
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There weren't no Ripper 18 Mar 2019 14:18 #50

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There weren't no Ripper 18 Mar 2019 17:19 #51

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Oh well, that's it then, case closed, it was Sweeney Todd the demon barber all along! :roll:

DNA Evidence seems to be the new panacea. Even if a shawl had been listed at the scene, and the DNA was still identifiable more than hundred years later, and it hadn't been contaminated by all the interim handling and it had been credibly analysed and reported upon...

It still doesn't explain how someone can have their throat cut, ear lopped off, nose cut off, eyes and cheeks pierced, intestines drawn out over the shoulder, part of intestines cut off and contents removed, left kidney carefully removed, oh, and part of her womb taken. All in the pitch dark, within a few minutes, overlooked by watchmen, with no blood spurting on the surrounding pavement/brickwork or even getting on the lower half of the body.

The whole point of the thread is that it weren't no lone Jack (or Aaron).
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