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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 15 Aug 2017 13:03 #1

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Truthspoon is of the opinion that Hitler & the NS top were all controlled opposition.

At first, I was of the same opinion. Nowadays, I think that wasn't the case.

Let's debate WW II, Hitler & NS, while taking a close look at all the evidence presented back and forth with an open mind.



Therefore my first question to Truthspoon: what makes you think Hitler was controlled?

Let's roll.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 15 Aug 2017 18:34 #2

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Gosh .. What a clever and original thread topic.
Yes, let's start ANOTHER thread praising Hitler and his minions.
We NEVER have enough of those.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 15 Aug 2017 19:07 #3

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it is a serious thread bd. flare has offered people to post arguments contra Hitler as a German hero. seems fair to me.


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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 15 Aug 2017 20:13 #4

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it is a serious thread bd. flare has offered people to post arguments contra Hitler as a German hero. seems fair to me.

Well, basically it will be a debate between me and Truthspoon as the title suggests, which we also could have via pm of course..

But I thought it would be nice to have a talk with him about it on the forum, as it might be interesting for others to read/watch.

To me Truthspoon seems like an intelligent and reasonable guy who knows his stuff, so I guess it'll be a nice talk.
(This in contrary to figures like Gaia who will be foaming from the mouth after the first post has been placed)
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 15 Aug 2017 20:13 #5

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Thanks for starting the thread Flare.

I'd say the biggest clue about Hitler would be sheer amount of money which was sent his way by the Wall Street banks. The great work of Anthony Sutton is highly instructive on this subject.

Also that people like Prescott Bush were doing business with him during world war 2.

The Bushes are a Skull and Bones family, this being a chapter of the Bavarian Illuminati on American soil.

So Prescott was effectively helping out a fellow Illuminatus.

The one thing you could say about Hitler was that he persecuted Freemasonry, however Freemasonry is not the only route into the Illuminati. It can be demonstrated that Hitler was a pagan mystic who worshipped Odin, the pagan mystery schools are another portal into the Illuminati, since what the Illuminati really is is a shared mental condition...but that is straying somewhat into metaphysics and is probably beyond the scope of this thread at the moment.
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Ok, thanks for the points you made.

First off... is there any evidence that the Wall Street banks sent money to Hitler? As this all comes from hear-say, while actually no proof for this is available. Obviously there were Hitler supporters amongst some big industrialists in the US who sent him donations, like Henry Ford for example. However, I think this part of history deliberately has been distorted that "the (((US banks))) supported Hitler" in order to turn people away from the road to finding out the truth about WW II. Hitler pulled Germany out of The League of Nations (precursor of the UN) and stepped away from International banking by printing their own usury-free currency; the Labour Treasury Certificates.

Second. Yes, I've heard about Prescott Bush in regards to trading with Germany. It could be yes. But a lot of foreign companies traded with Germany since their economy was booming while the rest of the world was still in recession. Therefore it is no more than logical for companies wanting to make money, which in turn would be good for Germany's economy as well. The National Socialist government however protected their nation from foreign entities meddling in their affairs. The concept of National Socialism and/or Fascism in regards to economy is that it is fine to make profits and get rich, as long as the companies involved won't start to be a threat to the government, otherwise these companies would be nationalized. (which they did when necessary)

Third... as far as I know Hitler was a devout Christian. If you can prove he was a pagan mystic, I'd like to see it demonstrated as you suggest.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 15 Aug 2017 21:11 #7

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Ok, thanks for the points you made.

First off... is there any evidence that the Wall Street banks sent money to Hitler? As this all comes from hear-say, while actually no proof for this is available. Obviously there were Hitler supporters amongst some big industrialists in the US who sent him donations, like Henry Ford for example. However, I think this part of history deliberately has been distorted that "the (((US banks))) supported Hitler" in order to turn people away from the road to finding out the truth about WW II. Hitler pulled Germany out of The League of Nations (precursor of the UN) and stepped away from International banking by printing their own usury-free currency; the Labour Treasury Certificates.

Second. Yes, I've heard about Prescott Bush in regards to trading with Germany. It could be yes. But a lot of foreign companies traded with Germany since their economy was booming while the rest of the world was still in recession. Therefore it is no more than logical for companies wanting to make money, which in turn would be good for Germany's economy as well. The National Socialist government however protected their nation from foreign entities meddling in their affairs. The concept of National Socialism and/or Fascism in regards to economy is that it is fine to make profits and get rich, as long as the companies involved won't start to be a threat to the government, otherwise these companies would be nationalized. (which they did when necessary)

Third... as far as I know Hitler was a devout Christian. If you can prove he was a pagan mystic, I'd like to see it demonstrated as you suggest.

I'll tackle the third point first.....


In 1915, while serving in the German Army on the Western Front, Hitler
wrote the following poem dedicated to Odin. It reminds me of Marx's poem to Satan.

"Ich gehe manchmal in rauhen Nächten
Zur Wotanseiche in den stillen Hain,
Mit dunklen Mächten einen Bund zu flechten -
Die Runen zaubert mir der Mondenschein.

Und alle, die am Tage sich erfrechten,
Sie werden vor der Zauberformel klein!
Sie ziehen blank - doch statt den Strauß zu flechten,
Erstarren sie zu Stalagmitgestein.

So scheiden sich die Falschen von den Echten -
Ich greife in das Fibelnest hinein
Und gebe dann den Guten und Gerechten
Mit meiner Formel Segen und Gedeihn."

Which can be translated as:

"I often go on bitter nights
To Woden's oak in the quiet glade
With dark powers to weave a union -
The moonlight showing me the runic spell

And all who are full of impudence during the day
Are made small by the magic formula!
They draw shining steel - but instead of going into combat,
They solidify into stalagmites.

Thus the wrong ones separate from the genuine ones -
I reach into a nest of words
then give to the good and fair
With my formula blessings and prosperity"
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Anthony Sutton says that Max Warburg of the Federal Reserve made funds available to be sent through the American arm of IG Farben to fund Hitler's 1933 election.

reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_07.htm#Financing Hitler in the March 1933
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Is there any source that he actually has written this poem?

Besides that, does one poem make one a pagan?

Hitler was actually raised in Lambach Abbey (Monastery) as a Catholic, where as a young boy even attended the choir in his spare time.



That's also where he saw the Swastikas carved in the wall and woodwork which he later would adopt for the NS flag.

So far there is no proof that he ever converted to another faith.



Unless you can show some more evidence that we don't know of ofc.
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Anthony Sutton says that Max Warburg of the Federal Reserve made funds available to be sent through the American arm of IG Farben to fund Hitler's 1933 election.

reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_07.htm#Financing Hitler in the March 1933

That's an interesting read.

Nevertheless, why wouldn't he accept donations from IG Farben?

After he came into power, he kicked out the bankers and anyone else running Germany into the ground. + he turned Germany into an economic superpower in 6 years time by stepping away from usury based banking.

At the time during Hitler's rise, Germany was in serious danger of a communist takeover. If Hitler would be controlled, the only thing he would have had to do is just let Germany go communist and all of Europe would have soon followed suit. This would have meant a massively powerful communist block having a communist Europe and Soviet Union combined.

Therefore my question is: why would the bankers let the communist takeover in Germany fail by placing Hitler in power and make it go to war with communism* in stead?

( * which is their end-game, since the NWO is communism)
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- Adolf Hitler, in Berlin, 01 May 1935
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Odinism/Wotanism Exposed! | Truth For Germans

An article in a 1995 issue of the Australian Odinist magazine Renewal:

"From the beginning of the Third Reich, Odinists (pagans) were generally suppressed. In 1933, Rudolf von Sebottendorff was arrested and exiled. The works of Odinist writers such as Lanz von Liebenfels, Ernst Issberner-Haldane and Reinhold Ebertin were banned. Former membership of an Odinist congregation disqualified anyone from holding rank or office within the NSDAP. In 1936 Friedrich Marby, a runemaster and follower of [Wotan worshipper Guido] von List, was arrested and sent to a camp at Flossenberg; he was released from Dachau in 1945. He was not alone. But the full power of the state was not focused on religious minorities until the 9th of June 1941 when the head of the security police, [Reinhardt] Heydrich, banned a large number of spiritual practices. Among the victims were followers of Rudolf Steiner, followers of von List, and traditional Odinists. Their organizations were dissolved, their property confiscated, and many of their leaders arrested.”

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I must applaud you Truthspoon for approaching this topic with a open mind . Even in the conspiracy movement many dont have the courage to down this rabbit hole
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 16 Aug 2017 03:42 #12

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Honestly not trying to be rude but you two could have easily had this conversation via pm.

bd is right that it's basically just another of the same old thread.

Seriously it's not 1940 anymore, time to move on.
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Flare wrote:
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Anthony Sutton says that Max Warburg of the Federal Reserve made funds available to be sent through the American arm of IG Farben to fund Hitler's 1933 election.

reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_07.htm#Financing Hitler in the March 1933

That's an interesting read.

Nevertheless, why wouldn't he accept donations from IG Farben?

After he came into power, he kicked out the bankers and anyone else running Germany into the ground. + he turned Germany into an economic superpower in 6 years time by stepping away from usury based banking.

At the time during Hitler's rise, Germany was in serious danger of a communist takeover. If Hitler would be controlled, the only thing he would have had to do is just let Germany go communist and all of Europe would have soon followed suit. This would have meant a massively powerful communist block having a communist Europe and Soviet Union combined.

Therefore my question is: why would the bankers let the communist takeover in Germany fail by placing Hitler in power and make it go to war with communism* in stead?

( * which is their end-game, since the NWO is communism)

The question is why was Hitler financed by Jewish American bankers in the first place.

And why did Kuhn Loeb and co bank also fund the Communist takeover?

Because both Hitler and Lenin could be guaranteed to cause the destruction of Christianity and the death of millions of Christians in their respected countries. And that's just what happened. The end result of Hitler's term in office should indicate what the intention was all along.

You ask why didn't they use Hitler to let the Communists take over. Well that's no fun, there wouldn't be much of a war if both sides were ideologically the same, in fact there wouldn't be any war, and nothing kills Christians like a big dirty war.
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Ok. This is going to be a bit of a wall of text which I found on the internet, the quotes come from Hitler's Table talk which are monologues privately delivered by Hitler at the suggestion of Martin Boorman.

“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6

“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

“As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394

“There is something very unhealthy about Christianity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 418

“The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 75-76

“When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

“Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn’t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 343-344

“Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 146

“Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it’s the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322

“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7

“But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144

“It took fourteen centuries for Christianity to reach the peak of savagery and stupidity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 314

“Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7

“We must recognise, of course, that, amongst us, Christianity is coloured by Germanism.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 46

“We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. We shall continue to preach the doctrine of National Socialism, and the young will no longer be taught anything but the truth.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 62

“Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 51

“By nature the Duce is a freethinker, but he decided to choose the path of concessions. For my part, in his place I’d have taken the path of revolution. I’d have entered the Vatican and thrown everybody out—reserving the right to apologise later: “Excuse me, it was a mistake.” But the result would have been, they’d have been outside!” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that’s left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59

“But, even so, it’s impossible eternally to hold humanity in bondage with lies. After all, it was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed on our peoples by princes who had an alliance of interests with the shavelings. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS composed of men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesn’t prevent them from going to their deaths with serenity in their souls.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 143

“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing was Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies heroism and which opens the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 667 (Talk about Islamo-fascism!)

“The priests of antiquity were closer to nature, and they sought modestly for the meaning of things. Instead of that, Christianity promulgates its inconsistent dogmas and imposes them by force. Such a religion carries within it intolerance and persecution. It’s the bloodiest conceivable.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322-323

“One cannot succeed in conceiving how much cruelty, ignominy and falsehood the intrusion of Christianity has spelt for this world of ours. If the misdeeds of Christianity were less serious in Italy, that’s because the people of Rome, having seen them at work, always knew exactly the worth of the Popes before whom Christendom prostrated itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 288

“With what clairvoyance the authors of the eighteenth, and especially those of the past, century criticised Christianity and passed judgment on the evolution of the Churches!” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 88

“When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 59

“The fact that the Japanese have retained their political philosophy, which is one of the essential reasons for their successes, is due to their having been saved in time from the views of Christianity.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 393

“This terrorism in religion is the product, to put it briefly, of a Jewish dogma, which Christianity has universalised and whose effect is to sow trouble and confusion in men’s minds.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 393

“It may be asked whether concluding a concordat with the churches wouldn’t facilitate our exercise of power…. I’m convinced that any pact with the Church can offer only a provisional benefit, for sooner or later the scientific spirit will disclose the harmful character of such a compromise. Thus the State will have based its existence on a foundation that one day will collapse.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pp. 58-59

“It is to these private customs that peoples owe their present characters. Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that’s why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 60
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Honestly not trying to be rude but you two could have easily had this conversation via pm.

bd is right that it's basically just another of the same old thread.

Seriously it's not 1940 anymore, time to move on.

We've seen this for many years now, having been part of these kinds of forums. :hahano:

Im not against the thread, its not as if we dont have the disc space for text, right now the server is like a big tall room and the site takes up a basketball sitting on the floor in the corner. Only hosting videos would fill the room up fast, text on the forum is infinitely smaller in size, storage wise.

But yeah it has been done.

The thing is, its more useful to leave adolf and associated NSDAP paraphenalia out of any real life movement and most here know that of course, so when its done on the web over and over I can see your point.

But each to their own ey.

If anything with you know pfwho staying away we will have less net adolf and ww2 NSDAP here i reckon. :hahano: :gmc:
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Anthony Sutton says that Max Warburg of the Federal Reserve made funds available to be sent through the American arm of IG Farben to fund Hitler's 1933 election.

reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_07.htm#Financing Hitler in the March 1933

That's an interesting read.

Nevertheless, why wouldn't he accept donations from IG Farben?

After he came into power, he kicked out the bankers and anyone else running Germany into the ground. + he turned Germany into an economic superpower in 6 years time by stepping away from usury based banking.

At the time during Hitler's rise, Germany was in serious danger of a communist takeover. If Hitler would be controlled, the only thing he would have had to do is just let Germany go communist and all of Europe would have soon followed suit. This would have meant a massively powerful communist block having a communist Europe and Soviet Union combined.

Therefore my question is: why would the bankers let the communist takeover in Germany fail by placing Hitler in power and make it go to war with communism* in stead?

( * which is their end-game, since the NWO is communism)

The question is why was Hitler financed by Jewish American bankers in the first place.

And why did Kuhn Loeb and co bank also fund the Communist takeover?

Because both Hitler and Lenin could be guaranteed to cause the destruction of Christianity and the death of millions of Christians in their respected countries. And that's just what happened. The end result of Hitler's term in office should indicate what the intention was all along.

You ask why didn't they use Hitler to let the Communists take over. Well that's no fun, there wouldn't be much of a war if both sides were ideologically the same, in fact there wouldn't be any war, and nothing kills Christians like a big dirty war.

It's remarkable indeed.

However, IG Farben being a massive German employed company not somehow supporting Hitler would have meant quite an outrage I suppose?

Anyways, one also needs to look at the actions of Hitler in order to determine wether he was controlled or not, since these speak louder than words.

A few examples:

If Hitler wanted to kill Christians, why did he start up a program for the Germans to have big families?
Erase mass unemployment and improve living standards by a long-shot..?
And why did he open up churches all over the country and in liberated Ukraine for example?
Must say Hitler didn't look the same man after the loss of Stalingrad as he was devastated, since he knew that was the decisive moment.

Was that all a show?

One doesn't need war in order to kill off tens of millions of people. Which is proven by the Soviet Union and China.

Have to go to work and will respond to you later.
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Michael Collins Piper Debunks Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler



:right: www.counter-currents.com/2013/12/german-big-business-and-the-rise-of-hitler/
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 19:38 #18

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The question is why was Hitler financed by Jewish American bankers in the first place.

And why did Kuhn Loeb and co bank also fund the Communist takeover?

Because both Hitler and Lenin could be guaranteed to cause the destruction of Christianity and the death of millions of Christians in their respected countries. And that's just what happened. The end result of Hitler's term in office should indicate what the intention was all along.

You ask why didn't they use Hitler to let the Communists take over. Well that's no fun, there wouldn't be much of a war if both sides were ideologically the same, in fact there wouldn't be any war, and nothing kills Christians like a big dirty war.

"Hitler" (a collection of various actors playing that role, hence the clownesque disguise) was also supported by and provided slave labour for the big -mostly jewish- industrialists;
- Boss
- DuPont
- Ford
- General Motors
- IBM
- Porsche
- Quandt
- Citroën
- Renault

and received support of various other (jewish) crooks of the so-called "Allies":
- Lord Astor (media)
- Lord Halixax (politics)
- Duke of Windsor (monarchy)
- Henry Luce (media, Time)
- Allen Dulles (then law firm Sullivan & Cromwell, later FBI)
- Rockefeller (Standard Oil)
- Torkild Rieber (Texaco)
- William Rhodes Davis (oil)
- J.P. Morgan (banking)
- Dillon (banking)
- Harriman Bros. (banking)
- Owen D. Young (banking)
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 20:06 #19

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There's nothing strange for companies trading with National Socialist Germany, since that's what companies do: trade.

And they definately do that with a nation that had a booming economy while the rest of the world still was in (heavy) recession.

Easy as 1 + 1 = 2

But Gaia thinks he stumbled upon some 'secret conspiracy'.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 20:19 #20

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Anthony Sutton says that Max Warburg of the Federal Reserve made funds available to be sent through the American arm of IG Farben to fund Hitler's 1933 election.

reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_07.htm#Financing Hitler in the March 1933

The so-called "stolze" Blut-und-Boden Nazis surely would never do business with jewish bankers, because they were very much opposed to the jewish power in the world...

Oh wait, they installed a jewish Freemason as the Minister of Economy. Like putting a drug addict in charge of the pharmacy.... :facepalm:

And they had their highest ranks filled with jews. Magda -ex-Quandt- Goebbels was a jewish girl, next to Jewseph Goebbels who speeched in his propaganda bullshit against Ze Jews, strange innit?
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