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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 20:25 #21

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Gaia wrote:
"Hitler" (a collection of various actors playing that role, hence the clownesque disguise)

:larf: :facepalm:

This dude is getting crazier by the day.

Ever since he found out the Holocaust was hoaxed, EVERYTHING is hoaxed according to this jew. :iitm:

I guess that's what happens when a jew finds out his/her precious holocaust which is part of their being didn't happen... they mentally can't handle it and come up with the weirdest of ideas.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 21:07 #22

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Ok. This is going to be a bit of a wall of text which I found on the internet, the quotes come from Hitler's Table talk which are monologues privately delivered by Hitler at the suggestion of Martin Boorman.

“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6

“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

“As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.” –Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394

Very telling, these attacks on Christianity, while at the same time doing business with the Vatican and in propaganda speaking to "defend German Christian values".

Also the statement "we've succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst" is hilarious, knowing that the NSDAP and SS employed many many jews, most of them in high ranking positions.

The "chasing the jews away" comment is extra ironic in the so-called Holocaust Story. Because what happened with all those jews? There were hundreds of thousands to millions of them kidnapped from their homes. They were clearly not "annihilated" (vernichtet), so what happened with them? A question the Nazi lovers like to avoid to answer, as it exposes the staging of the whole thing; why would the Nazis go so far to have a complete system of transport all throughout (Central) Europe working? What was their goal, by first kidnapping the jews and then transporting them, to where exactly?

Following the Nazi propaganda, the mass extermination/annihilation mainstream story of gassings would make sense.
But knowing that story is false, it doesn't make sense anymore that they would go over that enormous effort, with loads of manpower put into that, while fighting (and losing) a war on various fronts.

You'd think they'd need all hands on deck to fight off their enemies, not caring for jews not to be annihilated, but transported by the hundreds of thousands to millions to where? Where did all those people go from the transit Reinhardt camps?
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 21:20 #23

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I've never seen any ' evidence' or read much about this thought but I've always had the feeling , since coming to my present understanding of Hitler and the Reich that foreign companies , esp, the big American ones did business with Germany knowing war would come - they made the profit in that transaction and that war would only bring more . Building up the Reich secured a long and well armed war which they knew he have to fight on multiple fronts with most of the world against him and what if he 'won' could Germany really control it all ? or would another 10 yrs ( if that ) be spent wearing it down - the English , probably the Russians and the Commonwealth would have never let Germans be safe on foreign soil - or let it obtain raw materials -oil ect without hinderance ............I reckon they'd considered all possible outcomes and Germany wasn't going to be allowed to left in ' peace ' no matter how benevolent or non - invasive their victory , Germany was doomed from the start no matter how great , how right and just - They knew who the real enemy was ,this sealed a fate . I could be wrong - perhaps they didn't expect the Reich to as strong however, could it have dominated the world - would Japan have survived ?
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 21:52 #24

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All wars are bankster wars accept Nazi Germany..it was reichtous mann.

www.bis.org/about/history_2ww2.htm

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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 21:52 #25

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Lizzy wrote:
I could be wrong - Hitler kicked out the banksters , ...

That is only the propaganda version, the fact is, he didn't. He did the opposite, installing his highly esteemed jews, first Schacht, then Walther Funk (see below) into the Economy.

The strategy of the industrialists of the so-called Allies was to support Hitler. They favoured fascism as a great way to exclude competition; the so-called capitalists are actually crapitalists; monopolists who are very much against the free market. Capitalism is the opposite of that.

As with every other war (a game by psychopaths and against non-psychoapths) in history, WWII was staged that way; to let business (at least that in the hands of the Elitist few) boom.

The US American big banksters and industrialists (like Ford) provided investments and goods to all sides of this staged war; the Allies, Axis and Comintern all used their products and services.

Look at the links I provided for the "French" (Citroën was a Dutch jew) car manufacturers. They were all in on the game, producing tanks, trucks and even bullets for both sides; the Allies AND the Axis.

A key period to watch is also the post-war. Most of the Nazis were acquitted from persecution and those who were convicted were ridiculous cases; first "sentenced to death", then reduced to "life in prison" and then the so-called anti-Nazi postwar figures released all those people after just a few years (if they even spent that). Many of them had successful careers in post-war German politics.

A few show trials (the most famous is Nuremberg, but there were many more) and fake hangings and that was propagandised after the war as "now, we have done something about those Nazis, sheeple".

Many of those "hanged" at Nuremberg were jewish Nazis:

Joachim von Ribbentrop
Hans Frank
Wilhelm Frick
Alfred Jodl
Ernst Kaltenbrunner
Wilhelm Keitel
Alfred Rosenberg
Julius Streicher

Other famous and influential Nazis were acquitted or released soon. These were part of the personal circle of Hitler himself, the highest one could get in the fake fascist regime of Nazi Germany. ALL were acquitted, released, not prosecuted. That makes no sense whatsoever if the Nazis would be "the enemy" in the post-war period and especially their roles so high up in the chain of command:

Wilhelm Brückner
Willy Johannmeyer
Traudl Junge (Humps)
Richard Schulze-Kossens
Otto Günsche
Nicolaus von Below
Max Wünsche
Rochus Misch
Karl Wilhelm Krause
Karl-Jesko von Puttkamer
Hugo Blaschke
Johanna Wolf
Heinz Linge
Gerda Christian (Daranowski)
Fritz Darges
Friedrich Hossbach
Wilhelm Mohnke
Else Krüger
Christa Schroeder
Johann Rattenhuber
Julius Schaub
Emil Maurice
Erich Kempka
Johannes Hentschel
Hans Baur
Fritz Tornow (still alive!)

The brothers von Salomon, Franzie was allowed by the so-called anti-Nazi postwar Germans to become a politician (?????)

Franz Pfeffer von Salomon
Friedrich Pfeffer von Salomon



Funky (((Funk))) ...I mean, come on!... :emb:
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 22:10 #26

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Lizzy wrote:
I've never seen any ' evidence' or read much about this thought but I've always had the feeling , since coming to my present understanding of Hitler and the Reich that foreign companies , esp, the big American ones did business with Germany knowing war would come - they made the profit in that transaction and that war would only bring more . Building up the Reich secured a long and well armed war which they knew he have to fight on multiple fronts with most of the world against him and what if he 'won' could Germany really control it all ? or would another 10 yrs ( if that ) be spent wearing it down - the English , probably the Russians and the Commonwealth would have never let Germans be safe on foreign soil - or let it obtain raw materials -oil ect without hinderance ............I reckon they'd considered all possible outcomes and Germany wasn't going to be allowed to left in ' peace ' no matter how benevolent or non - invasive their victory , Germany was doomed from the start no matter how great , how right and just - They knew who the real enemy was ,this sealed a fate . I could be wrong - perhaps they didn't expect the Reich to as strong however, could it have dominated the world - would Japan have survived ?

Germany actually came very close to winning the war in 1941 when they were on the outskirts of Moscow and already starting to surround the city.

If Moscow would have fallen it would have been the end of the Soviet Union.

With all raw materials from Russia available to the Germans and no Eastern front to fight at, the UK wouldn't have stood a chance against Germany.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 06 Sep 2017 23:11 #27

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Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]


Slapping down a list of names doesn't make them jewish.

Perhaps in your jewish brain it does, but not in reality.

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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 07 Sep 2017 02:17 #28

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porridge wrote:
All wars are bankster wars accept Nazi Germany..it was reichtous mann.

www.bis.org/about/history_2ww2.htm


Yes, the indoctrination is thick on the house Nazis here...

No matter Ze Facts, Ze Nazis were Ze Bomb.

Looks like those mainstream shills, but then just with a tad different religion.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 13 Sep 2017 20:59 #29

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Gaia wrote:

Looks like those mainstream shills, but then just with a tad different religion.

Same Cons who were rallying around Trump... :wissl:
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 29 Sep 2017 21:15 #30

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So let me get this straight....

Hitler:

- united the people under National Socialism by eradicating (easy to control) democracy
- ripped up the Versailles Treaty which was tearing Germany apart
- abolished usury based banking which made Germany an economic superpower within 6 years
- improved overall life greatly and put Germany as world leader in education, literature, science and medicine
- got rid of degeneracy by trashing porn, degenerate art, burned communist literature and taking jews out of influential positions
- spiritually and emotionally lifted his people up to the greatest heights



However, according to Truthspoon, Hitler was controlled and behind the scenes secretly schemed to destroy his empire and people afterwards?

Where's the logic in that?
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^ To add to that...

What did Hitler have to gain by this?

As he didn't live a life in luxury and wealth afterwards; neither in fame.

His entire country and Hitler (with his wife) got destroyed along with it.

So what was in it for him?
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- did not abolish usury based banking which made Germany an economic superpower within 6 years
- improved overall life greatly and Germany was always a world leader in education, literature, science and medicine
- got rid of degeneracy by trashing porn, degenerate art, burned communist literature and installing jews at the most influential positions


Fixed.

And after devastating Germany with his clownesque acts, search for Lebensraum and doing his job for the Zionists, essentially founding the State of Israel, the coward fled to Brazil and Argentina.

What a "hero". :facepalm:
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 29 Sep 2017 23:50 #33

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^ There is no evidence that Hitler fled to Brazil and Argentina. This communist propaganda story has been made up by Stalin in order to smear Hitler as being a coward. And obviously you seem to swallow the story gladly as being an amateur conspiracy theorist.

Besides that, Hitler's health was bad at the end of the war and he wouldn't have lived for long as he suffered Parkinsons disease.

Regarding Germany's economics:
What is the economic philosophy of National Socialism?

How did National Socialism rescue Germany from the brink of annihilation during the worldwide Great Depression of the 1930's and enable it to become the most powerful nation in Europe, bringing Germany from last place to first place in Europe within only four short years [1932-1936], and before any significant military build-up took place? What happens when the people of a country take the power to create a money supply out of the hands of private bankers, eliminate national debt, and reapportion the illegitimate banking profits made by the parasitic internationalist bankers for the benefit of the nation itself and its people?


P.S. Hjalmar Schacht didn't come up with the idea of abolishing usury banking; he was put in place as he was well known with finance, but eventually had to take his orders from German high-command. Yes, Schacht was a mason, however he turned to National Socialism after he had read Mein Kampf.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 30 Sep 2017 00:19 #34

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Hitler, or at least one of his many doppelgänger, was even here, in 1955, in Tunja.




As his many buddies, with as famous example Jewseph Mengele, Dolfy went to South America, joining his buddy Richard Walther Darré, Argentinian who was Food minister in Nazi Germany (how come?! :emb: )

Flown out of Berlin with his favourite pilot, Hanna Reitsch:

During the evening of 28 April, Reitsch flew von Greim out of Berlin in an Arado Ar 96 from the same improvised airstrip. This was the last plane out of Berlin. Von Greim was ordered to get the Luftwaffe to attack the Soviet forces that had just reached Potsdamer Platz and to make sure Heinrich Himmler was punished for his treachery in making unauthorised contact with the Western Allies so as to surrender. Troops of the Soviet 3rd Shock Army, which was fighting its way through the Tiergarten from the north, tried to shoot the plane down fearing that Hitler was escaping in the plane, but it took off successfully.

He was only declared dead 10 years after, by the Berchtesgarten tribunal.

The story that he "committed suicide" and that "his body was burned with gasoline" is the Stalin propaganda story. Some attic Nazi needs to get his facts straight and talk more to Pfizi. :yerright:

Schacht and his successor Funk were jews, masons and did not do anything to stop usury banking.

How do we know this? Consider this:
1) It were the Jewish Councils that organized the transports to the camps during the war. These Jewish Councils were dominated by Zionists. They had no interest in ‘saving the Jews’. They had an interest in getting those willing to Palestine and they couldn’t care less about the rest. The Zionists, in turn, are owned by the ultra rich, as can be seen from the Balfour declaration, that was directed at Lord Rothschild. We also know that the Zionists did everything in their power to make the Jews’ plight as bad as possible, to uproot them completely, in order to get them to move to Palestine.
2) Jews are interest-slaves too: wealth distribution in the Zionist Entity in Palestine is among the worst in the world.
3) Anti-semitism is used to control the Jewish masses, who are perpetually kept in fear of the stupid Gentiles, who are supposedly always trying to murder them. Holocaustianity is a key part of this agenda. I believe everybody should see the ‘Defamation’ film to understand how the Jews are being manipulated in this way. Combined with this anti-semitism scare is this nasty ultra nationalism that Jews are programmed with and the strong cultural stigma against intermarriage with non-Jews. All this creates a decidedly narcissistic culture, which is very damaging to both the Jews themselves and the poor Gentiles having to live with them.

More on Schacht and Hitler’s Finances
It is unfortunate that there is so little financial literacy. This never ceases to amaze me: we all know that the bankers are behind all wars, owning both sides of the conflict. So why in the world are we not all studying economics and finance??

It tells in many of the comments too. For instance: in my article I noticed that Schacht oversaw the merger of several companies into I.G. Farben. This is then attacked by Martin as in some way ‘defaming’ Schacht. He says I only mention this because I.G. Farben has a bad reputation for Zyklon B and that it was just some sort of benign industrial giant.

Well I didn’t, because Zyklon B was used to delouse the camp inmates. I don’t see a problem with that. I do, however, see a major problem with massively consolidated industry in the hands of very few people, people who then continue to make an incredible amount of money with war profiteering. I.G. Farben was broken up after the war in its original parts. Agfa, BASF, Hoechst and Bayer. Today these are key components of the Big Pharma Cartel, which is behind chemotherapy, vaccinations and the depopulation agenda. I.G. Farben was closely associated with the Standard Oil Cartel, another issue people like to downplay. It is this close association that actually IS Big Pharma today.

Pharmacy and the eugenics link are also tightly connected, another little something I’m not eager to ignore.

Even worse is that Martin says ‘Schacht only provided a loan for the merger’. And this is why I suggest this financial illiteracy is really killing us. Because what is it that bankers do other than lending? It is by their financing that they control the economy! No financing, no deal. It is this prerogative by which they direct all the economies in the world. It is by the usury on the loan that they get their part of the action.

This blindness to banking, how it works and how bankers influence everything is also telling in the way Justice4Germans describes Schacht: “He spoke perfect English, had spent a lot time in America, had connections, was very egotistical and enjoyed having power and prestige, and to be in the limelight. Thus, Hitler was able to use and manipulate him to make him useful and to act as a kind of firewall against the international bankers while Germany was being reorganized under the NSDAP.”

Well, I’ll venture to suggest it was the other way around: Hitler was rather ambitious and through Schacht the Money Power controlled Hitler. The Money Power wanted Hitler to go to war and they made sure, through Schacht, that he could. They did not want him to nationalize the banks or end usury.
Why was Feder and the Nazi left sidelined after the night of the long knives? The fact is: this already happened in 1931, when Hitler’s financial and industrial backers threatened to cut him loose if he didn’t reign in Feder.

Schacht’s position as Reichsbank President was MUCH more important than Feder’s ministerial position, this is another issue the critics overlook. This position was second only to the Fuehrer himself, in terms of real power.

What was that old (probably debunked) quote about ‘give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws’? It seems that this all important lesson continues to elude many.

I repeat the simple fact that Schacht’s is an absolutely exemplary high level Money Power agent bio. Why try to make this go away? To say that Hitler was forced to appoint him to appease his backers (as both Martin and Justice4Germans suggest) basically admits that the power behind the throne was given what they demanded: control of the economy.

Then about Schacht’s policies, allowing the resurrection of the German economy.
As we know the Money Power rules through control of the money supplies of the nations and exploits this control through usury, the manipulation of the volume of money and to direct the economy by financing those it owns (or wants to own) while starving the rest of credit.

What Schacht did, and this is my basic message in the original article, is solve the volume of money. People are highly impressed by the quick solution of German unemployment. I’m not. People like Major Douglas, but also Keynes, would also not have been surprised. The simple fact is that depressions are caused by deflation, a contraction of the money supply. Provide the economy with sufficient liquidity and it will quickly return to full activity.

Schacht provided this much needed liquidity through his MEFO bills. I did not say, as Martin and Justice4Germans seem to believe, that it was rearmament that solved the depression in Germany. I did say that rearmament was where all the (extra) money went. They tried to downplay this, with some justification, by pointing at the public works program (Tempelhof Airport, Bremer Haven, Autobahns) that Hitler initiated, but here too they succumb to whitewashing instead of objectivity, claiming rearmament began only ‘in earnest’ in 1936. However, the mentioned public works clearly greatly enhanced both German productivity and capacity for war and this should not be overlooked. Moreover, Hitler immediately started reinforcing the Wehrmacht, there can be little doubt about that. It was his growing confidence because of the rebuilding Wehrmacht that gave him the nerve to remilitarize the Rhineland in 1935, not because Autobahns provided his troops with an escape route should the French have called his bluff.

German public debt stood at 18 billion in 1939 and total outstanding MEFO bills were at 12 billion Reichsmark.

And this is why it is so important to understand that the Reichsmark was created by the banks through fractional reserve banking, as an interest-bearing debt to them.


Hitler’s Finances, a Response to my Critics
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 30 Sep 2017 00:33 #35

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^ Nice to see you copy and paste some crappy tabloid MSM newspapers as 'proof' for Hitler's 'escape to South America' into the debate. :facepalm:

And regarding your story of Hanna Reitsch who would have flown him out of Berlin; this has long been disproven.



It's quite amusing to see you are only trying to dig up dirt on the National Socialists and are refusing to look at the story from the other perspective by even a milimeter. That makes one hell of a pathetic self-proclaimed "researcher".
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Well... Truthspoon?

Got anything to say about post # 30 + 31 ?
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From the youtube comment section below one of Dennis Wise's vids:
André Pereira
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Hitler was funded by Zionist WallStreet, he was just another Ziopuppet who knew that the jews were disliked (for good reasons BTW) and used it for his advantage.

Research the work of Eustace Mullins, who atested the connections of the Zionist FED to the main "revolutions" in the world.

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As much as I like his work, on Hitler he like many other American historians were privy to only what the US would allow out of Europe. You need to research Hitler himself to find the truth. He was no Ziopuppet, he was no Rothschild, no Jew, no funded by Wall St, No British agent, No homosexual, no sneak off to Argentina ... are you getting the picture?
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Flare wrote:
From the youtube comment section below one of Dennis Wise's vids:
André Pereira
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Hitler was funded by Zionist WallStreet, he was just another Ziopuppet who knew that the jews were disliked (for good reasons BTW) and used it for his advantage.

Research the work of Eustace Mullins, who atested the connections of the Zionist FED to the main "revolutions" in the world.

Dennis Wise
1 week ago
As much as I like his work, on Hitler he like many other American historians were privy to only what the US would allow out of Europe. You need to research Hitler himself to find the truth. He was no Ziopuppet, he was no Rothschild, no Jew, no funded by Wall St, No British agent, No homosexual, no sneak off to Argentina ... are you getting the picture?

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André Pereira
1 week ago
Hitler was funded by Zionist WallStreet, he was just another Ziopuppet who knew that the jews were disliked (for good reasons BTW) and used it for his advantage.

Research the work of Eustace Mullins, who atested the connections of the Zionist FED to the main "revolutions" in the world.

Dennis Wise
1 week ago
As much as I like his work, on Hitler he like many other American historians were privy to only what the US would allow out of Europe. You need to research Hitler himself to find the truth. He was no Ziopuppet, he was no Rothschild, no Jew, no funded by Wall St, No British agent, No homosexual, no sneak off to Argentina ... are you getting the picture?

The problem is the evidence is against Mr Dennis Wise. Do you follow the evidence? Or do you blindly follow surrogate daddy figures?

I don't defer to anyone and I find this 'quest for a cult leader' mentality who will explain and solve all your problems for you to be a not entirely healthy trend. There was only one hero.....and the Jews killed him 2000 years ago. All the rest is bullshit, and it is easily provable. Noone rises to a position of dominance and authority in this world unless the fake Jew Edomite Satanists want them to. And they always fund them.

You have to think in 4 dimensions to see how the Jew mind works, and they rely on people who can't to achieve their ends, and Hitler was just such a Jewish pawn.
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The Truthspoon & Flare thread 22 Oct 2017 15:10 #40

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^ Well, no.

After I had seen "The Greatest Story NEVER Told" (have you seen it I wonder..?) it put me on a relentless research to see if what is stated in the documentary is correct.

Of course I have heard aaaalllll the conspiracy theories regarding Hitler before, but if you take a closer look into what the man exactly said himself and all his actions taken, you will see those theories are incorrect.

It is YOU who is relying on other people's research to draw your conclusion, while refusing to look closer into the matter (Hitler & National Socialism) itself. Basically you are blinded as you only look at the subject from one perspective, but never check out the German perspective.

As why won't you take a look at "A Last Appeal to Reason" which I posted in # 37 for example?

Is it because you have already made up your mind and refuse to look into the matter a bit more?
Or is it because you are afraid what you'll find and you will be proven incorrect for all those years, and afterwards have to be identified as a "Nazi" ?
Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but not to his own facts. - Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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