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TOPIC: National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism.

National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 15 Aug 2018 17:55 #61

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 15 Aug 2018 17:56 #62

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Here we are already independant CooP to ourselves, we have been doing it for over 25 years and have helped and encouraged dozens to do the same, some have gone on to be much more fruitful than us which is how we all got here in the first place.

With the money they spend on the up keep of the Falklands/Malvinas in one day I could create so much creativity we would not need gvernment at all, let alone the amount of money wasted by fools like the TPV, I mean 300K gone without a single thing to show for it, I tell you this team of wasters have never produced anything of worth to anyone, not a bloody sausage.

I don't need a government to show me what to do, but one that leaves me alone to get on with it.

We can all do something similar and be much better off in the long run, tis a pity so many are incapable due to government policy, which dissables our intuition.

Over the years I have seen huge changes in how the government have stifled injinuity, it was once easy to get recycled materials but they even shut off that avenue by monetizing the scrap collectors so they could not longer get cash for crap as they cleaned up our waste, now you have to pay 30 quid to the councils to have three items disposed of, the skips now have to have a barrier around them for health a safety so there goes another avenue to recycle, I tell you this fella is not a happy chappie.

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 15 Aug 2018 17:59 #63

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Gan Anim nobody benefits under anarchism.
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 15 Aug 2018 18:07 #64

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We can have the miracle of national socialism once again here in the west because clearly since 2007 hardly anything has gotten better economically for people in the western sphere. We're told of economic recovery constantly but nothing gets better because the capitalists steal a little bit more every year from the general population.

The words economic recovery or austerity is their code words for ongoing theft and looting.

Under capitalism economic recovery and austerity measures are a disaster where I fear these capitalists are going to economically collapse all of our western nations to maintain their delusions. The good news is that after our societies collapse and afterwards where we go through what will end up being a savage bloody revolutionary civil war we can reinstate national socialist economics once again experiencing a real genuine economic recovery instead of those falsesities of lies they're always telling us about.
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 15 Aug 2018 18:07 #65

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Sword And Hammer wrote:
Gan Anim nobody benefits under anarchism.

It depends what kind of anarchism your talking about, there is a destructive kind and a constructive type of reality, the ones who strive to live but never do anything but talk about it, and those who do something about it without being asked or forced to be like it.

If your coming from a totally impractical but acedemic point of view, you will never know what needs to be done, this is what I call governance not self governing and or practical.

A sword is best left in its scabbard of a mind and a hammer is for knocking nails into your own coffin if used in the wrong way.

My weapons are tools, to make shoes in which to walk tall and proud, their quality serves us well, but we could not aford to buy them from someone else.
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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 15 Aug 2018 18:13 #66

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Gan Anim wrote:
Sword And Hammer wrote:
Gan Anim nobody benefits under anarchism.

It depends what kind of anarchism your talking about, there is a destructive kind and a constructive type of reality, the ones who strive to live but never do anything but talk about it, and those who do something about it without being asked or forced to be like it.

If your coming from a totally impractical but acedemic point of view, you will never know what needs to be done, this is what I call governance not self governing and or practical.

A sword is best left in its scabbard of a mind and a hammer is for knocking nails into your own coffin if used in the wrong way.

My weapons are tools, to make shoes in which to walk tall and proud, their quality serves us well, but we could not aford to buy them from someone else.


There is no such thing as creative anarchism.

Anarchists always perplex me because they'll always discuss there being no government yet even amongst the anarchist communes there are leaders and wherever you find leadership there is an authority.
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 00:15 #67

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"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 00:37 #68

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Most of the problems of the west like low birthrates, feminism, unemployment, lack of education, lack of healthcare, low wages, job outsourcing, and foreign immigration are all symptoms of neo liberal capitalism. Newsflash, if white people cannot get high paying income jobs and economic security being forced to compete with third world wages we essentially cannot have large families in reproducing altering the disastrous current population demographic crisis we find ourselves in now.

Communism and socialism didn't cause all of that to happen, neo liberal capitalism has!

But what about the democrats? They're capitalists also or they've infiltrated capitalism to bring western civilization down but either way they utilize capitalism to make all of this happen.

Since world war II it has been neo liberal capitalists in positions of power up until our present and under their leadership or watch western civilization is in flames under assault.

And no, forty percent of wealthy whites that benefit from capitalism sacrificing the other sixty percent of whites on the altar of capitalism isn't going to change anything on their own. Such people are dangerously deluded and anybody willing to sacrifice their own national countrymen is just as much as the enemy as the others.

Neo liberal capitalists whether they call themselves republicans, libertarians, or whatever won't address this because they don't care about race, identity, and ethnicity, all they care about is the monopoly of profit.

Money, profit, and capital is the only thing they focus on! And we wonder how we have fallen so low....
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 00:54 #69

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Radical individualism of classical or modern liberalism isn't going to save us, in order to save our race, ethnicity, and nation states a collective political system is the only way to move forward. Collectivism is what will save us not radical individualism.

Radical atomized individualism has destroyed western civilization to the brink of ruin and it is time we all face the music of that.
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 01:15 #70

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Muh free-market......




"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 01:37 #71

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Sword And Hammer wrote:
Radical individualism of classical or modern liberalism isn't going to save us, in order to save our race, ethnicity, and nation states a collective political system is the only way to move forward. Collectivism is what will save us not radical individualism.

Radical atomized individualism has destroyed western civilization to the brink of ruin and it is time we all face the music of that.

That's exactly where the jews want to have us... all divided as a bunch of sorry individuals.

While they work together like some Borg-like collective from their doom cube.











They're all tapped into a Satanic dimension.
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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 02:23 #72

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There is no collectivism or collective will in capitalism and libertarianism, both are cults of individualism.

Capitalism like it's counterpart communism is all about internationalism and globalism. Capitalism can't exist without internationalism or globalism which is why we see no movement of national capitalism because nationalism is an impediment against the international accumulation of global financial capital.

What ideology promotes collectivism and the overall public good of society? Socialism does.

What ideology promotes the integrity of race, ethnicity, culture, history, and tradition? Nationalism does.

Therefore what we need is a nationalist socialist model of society and nation state. Anything less than national socialism will not and cannot work. Anything less than national socialism should be immediately rejected.
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"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 02:29 #73

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^ Very well said S&H!

Keep in mind... Hitler's definition of Socialism is quite different from the Socialism which is being preached in MSM sources.

What Hitler means with Socialism is REAL Socialism:

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An argument between socialists and capitalists on the Federal Reserve.

Libertarian: The Federal Reserve is an unelected and non federal entity that has taken over the United States government. It devalues our currency and has taken the United States economy hostage!

Socialist: I agree that is a problem but isn't the Federal Reserve a private entity where you guys are all about the virtues of privatization?

Libertarian: Ummm, well......


Socialist: What exactly is your solution to the Federal Reserve? Ours would be to nationalize central banks under the control of the state. What's yours exactly in contrast? So you libertarians take down the Federal Reserve and then what exactly? Another private institution takes over its former position and the same exact problems begins all over again?

Libertarian: :umm:
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"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

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"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

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Socialism is the natural expression of a healthy national state looking out and protecting the interests of its people.

Communism is what socialism becomes when a bunch of Jews pervert it and poisons the fountain or wellspring of public social well being.

Also remember this, it was wallstreet capitalists that funded the 1917 Russian communist revolution from the United States and it isn't coincidence that the same people control both capitalism or communism alike simultaneously.

Capitalism and communism is a false duality or paradigm presented to the world as the only social, economic, and political solutions thus destroying any other alternatives. That was not done by accident.

Capitalism and communism are false dichotomies created by international usurpers, reject the false dichotomy by embracing the third position of national socialism.
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"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 02:49 #76

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National Socialism all comes down to pure common sense and logic.

It's not radical at all.

Hmyea... to a fucked up communist it might sound radical. But not to normal people who think a little bit about it.

It's all about love for your nation (National), love for your people (Socialism), striving for the best and having high morals / standards.
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In the west effectively the government and state as public entities which are supposed to protect the interests of citizens or the nation state is dead. Why do I say this?

Because nowadays what the government has become is an institution of ex bankers, ex lobbyists, and ex corporate CEOS. Private corporations, banks, and lobbyists have taken over government which means a variety of corporate private financial interests has essentially become the new defacto government model of the west.

Public government in the west is dead, there is only governments controlled by private interests for private interests where the rest of us are its rent seeking chattel cattle livestock tax mules.

The definition of government is whoever is the ruling class and for us in the west the ruling class stems from corporate privatization. It really makes you wonder what libertarians or capitalists are arguing against because what we live under now is essentially the end game of their embraced ideologies.
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"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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National Socialism Versus Capitalism And Libertarianism. 28 Aug 2018 12:52 #79

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@ Rocco

My thoughts. Apologies, because I haven't read the thread, and these issues may have been covered.

I'm not in favour of National Socialism because it limits peoples' freedoms for sure. I want to be free to be me, with my own thoughts
and creativity.

I'm more in tune with Rocco and Ancap BUT isn't there a danger of Corporations taking control, like they have today?

"David D. Friedman has expressed preference for a society where "almost everyone is self-employed" and "instead of corporations there are large groups of entrepreneurs related by trade, not authority. Each sells not his time, but what his time produces".

With regard to the welfare state, I'm not sure whether communities under an Ancap system would provide for vulnerable people.

I was thinking who would provide healthcare, and would it be free under AnCap?
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I'm not in favour of National Socialism because it limits peoples' freedoms for sure. I want to be free to be me, with my own thoughts and creativity.

:facepalm:

Typically the answer of a half-truther who is stuck halfway down the rabbithole and hasn't studied anything National Socialism actually is about.

Under National Socialism the most massive economic boom occured, literally dozens of inventions were made, huge artworks, big architecture, big emphasis on culture, everyone was extremely happy, 99% approval rating for the National Socialist government, they were the first to introduce animal rights, housing was cheap, wages doubled, interest was abolished, people had a feeling of belonging to eachother (collective), unemployment was eradicated, crime was eradicated with all streets safe to walk again etc. etc. etc. etc.

It was Utopia back then.

Yet, here we have Roastie throwing that all aside as she wants to be 'free and have her own thoughts'.

Yeaah.... riiiight. :roll:

National Socialism IS freedom Roastie.
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