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TOPIC: Strasserism Of Yesterday And Strasserism Of Today.

Strasserism Of Yesterday And Strasserism Of Today. 06 Sep 2018 13:16 #1

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This thread deals with the ideas of nationalism, economics, or political state as espoused by Otto and Gregor Strasser.

To start we'll start with the Youtube sensation Cultured-Thug outline of what Strasserism is. If anybody wants full knowledge of how a national socialist or fascist state operates in terms of economics and organization Cultured-Thug is a brilliant historian on those subjects. I really hope he creates a Bitchute channel if he hasn't already as that man has a great intellect.


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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Strasserism Of Yesterday And Strasserism Of Today. 06 Sep 2018 14:10 #2

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Now as a Strasserite I do have some disagreements particularly with Otto Strasser.

1. There can be no compromise, assimilation, tolerance, or negotiating with international Jewry. Anti semitism is a natural reaction to international Jewry that seeks to subvert all nations. I blame this on Otto Strasser due to his altruistic naivety because in the 1920's up until the 1970's of his death it was probably inconceivable for him to know and understand the influence of what international Jewry has become today. Simply put, you can't play nice with Jews as it doesn't work. It never has worked and it never will. So in that regard if Otto Strasser was still alive I would probably call him an imbecile on that major hot topic issue. Gregor his brother it would seem disagreed with Otto on the Jews since he on record remarked,

"We National Socialists want the economic revolution involving the nationalization of the economy...We want in place of an exploitative capitalist economic system a real socialism, maintained not by a soulless Jewish-materialist outlook but by the believing, sacrificial, and unselfish old German community sentiment, community purpose and economic feeling. We want the social revolution in order to bring about the national revolution.”

So it is clear Gregor Strasser understood much better than his brother Otto the threats of both zionism and international Jewry.


2. I am not anti Adolf Hitler as Otto Strasser was. While I think Adolf Hitler had many faults of which I am not afraid to criticize overall I think also Hitler did a variety of good things and should be historically respected for them concerning achievement. Otto Strasser was butthurt over his brother and decided to write a book about Adolf Hitler in a rage which probably helped him avoid persecution to the same fate of others such as the Nuremberg Trials. Yes, the book is full of negative biases and that is another unfortunate blunder.

3. While I admire the Strasser brothers for their heavy emphasis on the part of socialism within national socialism ultimately their lack of pragmatism and higher awareness of international events during the war caused Gregor's death along with Otto's exile into banishment. For me this is an unfortunate historical event in that I like both of the brothers intellect and if I could take a time machine into the past slapping them both around a bit I would probably say something on the lines of, "Don't be fucking stupid you two brothers in that you don't organize a political coup in the middle of wartime even with your socialist perceived grievances against Hitler who by the way is the only thing standing in the way of Germany's defeat by allied forces."

"Your German socialism or socialist platform won't even get off the ground if Hitler and Germany is defeated!"

That was just a stupid and dumb move by them both where even as a modern day Strasserite I am unapologetic for saying so. In fact if both learned how to compromise, communicate, and negotiate with Adolf Hitler more reasonably they probably would of been able to keep their socialist platforms within the Third Reich making it more socialist overtime through political activism. It's a shame history didn't play out that way and that it turned out the way it did.

In my ideal world Adolf Hitler and the Strasser brothers got along together where everybody lived happily ever after, unfortunately it didn't happen that way and is wishful thinking.

Nonetheless that is the past and modern Strasserism or national socialism needs to look more towards our present into the future. There is literally no reason for infighting on issues that happened in our ancient past because we have enough problematic issues of our own present to contend with. We should be more about the present and future not an ancient past that has already long transpired. I'm sure there will be some who will come into this thread and argue about past history, whatever.....
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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Strasserism Of Yesterday And Strasserism Of Today. 07 Sep 2018 07:33 #3

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Every now and then I like to see what other Strasserites or non Hitlerian national socialists have to say on the inter-web.

One of the most common things I see is this statement below.

"Adolf Hitler betrayed the socialist movement and working class revolution, down with Hitler!" :facepalm:

Did Adolf Hitler betray the German socialist movement and revolution? Well, yes and no....

Oh what, you didn't think you were going to get an easy answer or explanation from me on the issue, did you? :nono:

In a sense yes he did get in bed with industrialists, capitalists, financial aristocrats, and bankers which is in direct opposition to socialist ideology but I would argue that he didn't have much of a choice where here's why.

1. Germany was rebuilding its economy, infrastructure, and society after the whole Weimar fiasco.

2. After Adolf Hitler became the new leader or figurehead of Germany other nations were already making moves against the German Third Reich militarily. In order to build a new German military to face foreign aggressors Germany had to raise enough capital to build and create one.

Look, I get it that at the time this pissed off a lot of German socialists along with the Strasser brothers but understand this idealism only gets you so far politically where ultimately it takes pragmatism, resources, compromise, negotiation, and financial capital investments to make things happen in real life beyond theoretical positioning. You can't get anywhere as a socialist just being all idealistic and philosophical without the necessary resources to build your political platform. Socialism isn't built in a day or on ideology alone and sometimes you have to be pragmatic which means you have to communicate or negotiate with your opposition a great deal of the time. What that means is that you have to be reasonable and sit down communicating with your political opponents often enough in debate, settlement, or political bargaining.

The more I study this period of past history of German socialism and the Strasser brothers the more I believe they all let their idealism get the best of them clouding their vision of things which ultimately caused the Third Reich to get rid of its independent socialist platforms in reaction. What can we learn from that? Be more pragmatic and understand that while idealism is good it cannot do anything on its own where there has to be things backing it up.

If we can do that as modern national socialists or social nationalists we can achieve so much more and perhaps even more so than our past predecessors who came before us. Understand this, you have to work within the present system of things to eventually change the system altogether. You only work from outside the system against it if all other options have been thoroughly exhausted as a final recourse only. If you don't know what pragmatism is I suggest you look it up. :thumbup:
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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