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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 15:02 #1

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No, I'm not advocating violence, that's just the title of this article (below) that an American guy sent me anonymously..:)
He seems to be all for a civil war, but do TZ members think it could ever really happen in within the next 5, 10, 50, 100 years?
Who are likely to be the two opposing sides; or could there be a whole number of different factions all fighting each other or forming alliances with other factions?
One possible scenario would be a number of States joining forces to announce they were breaking away from the Union, a kind of repeat of the first Civil War. Could it ever happen?


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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 15:28 #2

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He huffed and he puffed, then i guess he emailed you the pic :larf:

A civil war in todays age of technology would be unlike anything we've seen before?

Because those who hold the tech could probably put a stop to it pretty quickly with their aerial killing machines for example?
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 15:59 #3

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novum wrote:
A civil war in todays age of technology would be unlike anything we've seen before?
Because those who hold the tech could probably put a stop to it pretty quickly with their aerial killing machines for example?

Yes there are many possible scenarios, for example if a bunch of States announced they were leaving the Union, perhaps the rest of the states would just say "Okay go ahead we won't interfere".
If Lincoln had said that, there'd have been no first civil war..:)

(PS- I recently changed my avatar to a Brit redcoat, can anybody see it? All I'm seeing on my monitor is the old caveman one)
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 16:06 #4

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novum wrote:
He huffed and he puffed, then i guess he emailed you the pic :larf:

A civil war in todays age of technology would be unlike anything we've seen before?

Because those who hold the tech could probably put a stop to it pretty quickly with their aerial killing machines for example?


Given the sophistication of technology and weapons of the state pulling an insurrectionary guerilla campaign of civil war would be severely difficult but at the same time not impossible assuming the rebel leaders were mentally competent enough while also being organized.

There are ways to avoid even the sophistication of advanced technology in enemy hands.
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 16:08 #5

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Ugh wrote:
novum wrote:
A civil war in todays age of technology would be unlike anything we've seen before?
Because those who hold the tech could probably put a stop to it pretty quickly with their aerial killing machines for example?

Yes there are many possible scenarios, for example if a bunch of States announced they were leaving the Union, perhaps the rest of the states would just say "Okay go ahead we won't interfere".
If Lincoln had said that, there'd have been no first civil war..:)

(PS- I recently changed my avatar to a Brit redcoat, can anybody see it? All I'm seeing on my monitor is the old caveman one)


The best case scenario is that the economy of the western block collapses where all of us has the opportunity for insurrection. Their soldiers are only as good as they can afford to pay them.
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

"We must take from the right nationalism without capitalism and from the left socialism without internationalism."- Gregor Strasser

"We must reject the false dichotomy of capitalism and communism as the only choices for the world where instead we must embrace the third position of national socialism." -Myself

"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

"Syncretic politics is that taking political positions combining elements associated with the left and right that can achieve a goal of reconciliation." - Wikipedia

"Only collectivism will save our collective plight of western civilization during this crisis as individualism by itself isn't enough."- Myself

"We must secure ethnic racial homelands of European peoples worldwide."- Myself

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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 18:04 #6

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novum wrote:
He huffed and he puffed, then i guess he emailed you the pic :larf:

A civil war in todays age of technology would be unlike anything we've seen before?

Because those who hold the tech could probably put a stop to it pretty quickly with their aerial killing machines for example?
The Afghan Mujahideen is doing pretty well, first against the Soviets, and now against the Western Allied Forces
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 18:05 #7

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Ugh wrote:
novum wrote:
A civil war in todays age of technology would be unlike anything we've seen before?
Because those who hold the tech could probably put a stop to it pretty quickly with their aerial killing machines for example?

Yes there are many possible scenarios, for example if a bunch of States announced they were leaving the Union, perhaps the rest of the states would just say "Okay go ahead we won't interfere".
If Lincoln had said that, there'd have been no first civil war..:)

(PS- I recently changed my avatar to a Brit redcoat, can anybody see it? All I'm seeing on my monitor is the old caveman one)
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 19:51 #8

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I've got a theory- people may grumble and complain, but will never cross the line into taking violent action until the food shelves start becoming empty, then it'll really hit the fan with violent rioting and looting
There's an old saying in the survivalist community- "Doomsday is just 48 hours away", meaning that's the amount of food in a typical family fridge that will last for a couple of days, then all hell will let loose as bellies begin running on empty..







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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 20:23 #9

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The saying is that people are seven days from chaos as hunger takes hold Ugh. ;)
"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party owned by Jewish Wallstreet gives a flying fuck about you."- Myself

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Former Russian Soviet dissidents and now presently the American working class.

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"Globalism, internationalism, and civic nationalism means the death of western civilization where instead we must install an ethnic racial form of nationalism."- Myself

"The United States is a Jewish and Zionist owned corporate plantation or labor prison." - Myself

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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 20:35 #10

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Sword And Hammer wrote:
The saying is that people are seven days from chaos as hunger takes hold Ugh. ;)

Yeah it depends how big our food and water stockpile is, and how many people its got to support..:)
For example the pile on the left could support one person for say a week, but if it had to support two people, half of it would be gone in just 3 or 4 days (right)-

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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 20:56 #11

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When i put myself into debt to buy a small home i made sure we lived near a plentiful supply of fuel ( trees ) and within an hoirs walking distance of fresh water

Then we started prepping food supplies and learning what is edible from the local environment

The first nations people who were in canada before europeans lived without wallmart and industrial.farming for tens of thiusands of years

It just means going back to doing things the hard way and not being able to wander the aisles of grocery stores like a castrated and bemused cow
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 21:07 #12

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A film that illustrates how ordinary decent folk are apt to become violent when things hit the fan is 'Panic in Year Zero' (1962) starring Ray Milland trying to survive in the hills with his family after nuclear bombs hit the USA.
I can't find the full film on youtube anymore, only this trailer-



Below are a couple of stills from the film where Milland confronts two unarmed blokes who messed with his daughter, and shoots them in cold blood, shocking..:)
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 21:16 #13

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Those who have guns, have food. Those who don't have guns, have no food. It's really that simple in a tooth and claw environment.
Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting point.” ~ Chuang Tzu
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 21:19 #14

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Another on the theme of "when good folks turn bad" is the Twilight Zone episode called "The Shelter", apparently no longer on youtube but I saved these stills from it-
That white-haired bloke made the mistake of telling his neighbours a while back that he'd turned his cellar into a fortified bunker, what could possibly go wrong?...

1- A happy neighbourhood birthday party..
2- Radio announcer- "Incoming enemy missiles. get in your shelters!"
3- "Lemme in, I'm your mate"......."Sod off!"
4- "None of us have got a shelter, let's bust into his!"
5- Radio announcer-"False alarm"
6- "Get out of my house you mofos!"


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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 22:36 #15

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peacenik wrote:
Those who have guns, have food. Those who don't have guns, have no food. It's really that simple in a tooth and claw environment.

Forget your guns, too loud they will give you away, this is what you need and a few spare strings.

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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 22:44 #16

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Gan Anim wrote:
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Those who have guns, have food. Those who don't have guns, have no food. It's really that simple in a tooth and claw environment.

Forget your guns, too loud they will give you away, this is what you need and a few spare stings.


I made my son a bow a couple of years back to show him how easy it is and as he was firing his with make shift arrows i started to notch the ends of mine for the string to sit in and slipped the knife which made a fillet of the top of my thumb

Lesson learnt allways cut AWAY from your body not towards it *humble face*
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A Call to Violence! 28 Sep 2018 22:55 #17

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MrAnderson wrote:
When i put myself into debt to buy a small home i made sure we lived near a plentiful supply of fuel ( trees ) and within an hoirs walking distance of fresh water

Then we started prepping food supplies and learning what is edible from the local environment

The first nations people who were in canada before europeans lived without wallmart and industrial.farming for tens of thiusands of years

It just means going back to doing things the hard way and not being able to wander the aisles of grocery stores like a castrated and bemused cow

We are two minutes from both Mr A, right in the wilds, deer, tree squirrels and plenty of fish, wild mushrooms, chaga, you would not got hungry or be cold around here, I have made several bows, arrows and strings from the wild using an axe, and a knife I made myself.

Many years ago a small group of us did extensive testing to see how little calories you could survive on in all climates here in the UK, the absolute bare minimum was 500 calories a day, any less that that and most would succumb in around 12 days, and why we called it the 12 day rule, and that is in a sheltered dry scenario.

If the SHTF for real most people would be gone in around 9-10 days, so it would be best to leave highly populated areas and stay away from them for at least three weeks, then you would be pretty safe to move back where there is more tools etc, BD in Canada stands a much better chance than most especially in winter.
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A Call to Violence! 29 Sep 2018 00:00 #18

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MrAnderson wrote:
Gan Anim wrote:
peacenik wrote:
Those who have guns, have food. Those who don't have guns, have no food. It's really that simple in a tooth and claw environment.

Forget your guns, too loud they will give you away, this is what you need and a few spare stings.


I made my son a bow a couple of years back to show him how easy it is and as he was firing his with make shift arrows i started to notch the ends of mine for the string to sit in and slipped the knife which made a fillet of the top of my thumb

Lesson learnt allways cut AWAY from your body not towards it *humble face*

To each his own!

Don't like noise, love accuracy?

I prefer one of these.

Makes no sound. Accurate to 400 yards



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A Call to Violence! 29 Sep 2018 00:02 #19

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A Call to Violence! 29 Sep 2018 08:32 #20

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Speaking of survival and whether we should tell our neighbours what we've got or keep it secret, I learnt the hard way not to tell anybody some years ago when a bunch of us from local cycling clubs entered a 100-mile ride in midwinter.
To make sure that I survived the course, I carried a small rucksack full of food and drink, but made the mistake of showing it off to other riders on the start line.
You can guess what happened; most of them hadn't got enough supplies in their little bags, and some never even had a bag at all, so they kept pedalling up to me to beg and scrounge stuff from me, but I refused pointblank, saying "Sorry, I've only got enough for me".
It didn't make me very popular but I didn't care because survival was the name of the game, and whereas they kept dropping out all around the course, only me and a few other well-prepared riders completed the course
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