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TOPIC: Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S.

Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 09 Mar 2019 22:26 #21

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Robert David Steele is a retired CIA officer who found out what's really going on in the world after retirement, by very extensive reading, which he then reviews and posts on his website.

He is active in trying to bring about election reform and has very creative ideas about how to solve problems to make the world a better place in the future.

This interview is one of the best I've ever listened to.

The YouTuber has also provided a breakdown of time stamps in the Description, which is handy:
Crush The Street
Published on Mar 5, 2019


TOPICS IN THIS INTERVIEW:

02:10 Who or what is the Deep State?
06:10 Saudi Arabia’s IS a nuclear power!
10:40 A Gold backed Dollar – the urgency for a nationalized FED
17:10 Corruption and treason at the highest levels
28:20 Definition of a Debt Jubilee
34:45 Where to find more of Robert David Steele’s work


That discussion has made me very hopeful about the future!

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this guy is clear disinformation.

I thought I would give his video a chance.

He started out with an interesting premise, which my research agrees with. He said the "Deep State" is the Vatican and the Chabad cult which he said isn't even Jewish, and that they back Netanyahu.

Yes the Chabad is a major part of the deep state, and yes they back Netanyahu. The Chabad comes from a heretical form of Hasidic Judaism which was started by Sabbatei Zevi in 1666. He was a mystic who claimed HE WAS THE RETURN OF CHRIST. The CHabad is an extremist "Jewish" cult which backs extremist Zionism and has links to the Russian mob. Unfortunately the Chabad is also the power behind Trump. The whole Russiagate narrative of the MSM is correct but it does not go directly to the real heart of the issue, which is that Trump and Putin are connected by the Chabad. The Richest man in Israel Roman Abramovich is a member of Chabad and he was the one who helped put Putin into power in Russia. Many Trump associates are Chabad members including his lawyer Michael Cohen, who is now ratting him out, and Russian Mobster Felix Sater who worked with the Trump organization on real estate deals, including the proposed Russian Trump tower.

So Steele is correct in identifying the Chabad as a major player. Then he starts to sow deception when he stated that "Trump has partially nationalized the Federal Reserve" :facepalm: and that "he will fully nationalize it after he gets re-elected" :facepalm:

Trump is a puppet of the Chabad which Steele identifies as the Deep State. He has filled his cabinet with Goldman Sachs alumni. Goldman Sachs owns shares of the Federal Reserve, as does Blackstone Group, which is run by Trump associate and financier Stephen Schwarzmann. The idea that Trump would nationalize a bank that his associates directly own shares in, is fucking laughable, as is the fact that this Steele guy thinking a 2nd Trump term would be a good thing.

Then he goes on to say that the Deep State runs drugs, guns, gold, and human trafficking. Yes all true.

He then says "thats why I like Trump because he is against Human trafficking" :facepalm: :facepalm: :chuckle:


Umm, does this guy not know that Trump and his associates are neck deep in human trafficking.

Trump's mentor Roy Cohn ran pedophile networks.

Trump's current buddy Jeffrey Epstein also ran pedophile and human trafficking networks, which according to more than one witness, Trump himself took part in. Trump rewarded the guy who got Epstein off with a slap on the wrist with a position in his cabinet. Yeah Trump is really against Human trafficking. :facepalm:

Trump's buddy Robert Kraft just got busted in a sting visiting a massage parlour which was involved in human trafficking. The woman who runs the operation was partying with Trump and his superbowl party, and she is not only a donor to Trump but an insider with the whole Trump apparatus. (You can go to my thread on Trump and his hypocrisy on human trafficking to see more)

Also another Chabad member and Trump associate Tevfik Arif was busted in Turkey for human trafficking.

Trump and his criminal network are neck deep in human trafficking.

This Steele guy is a complete utter shill.
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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 10 Mar 2019 00:11 #22

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This Steele guy is a complete utter shill.
No, he is not.

He is a well-informed commentator about a President who is doing the best he can to function within the cesspool of globalist minions in the Federal government working against him.
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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 11 Mar 2019 20:21 #23

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This video has been posted on the blog that Robert David Steele and his associates post on:
Blackstone Intelligence Network
Published on Mar 7, 2019


Ilhan Omar has come under repeated attacks by some Jewish lawmakers over charges of antisemitism. But other Jewish lawmakers are defending #Omar against the allegations. In addition, there are many Jews who support Omar.

This video shows clips of Rabbi Weiss as he defends Omar - as well as addition clips of Orthodox Jews taking a stand against Israel.

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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 11 Mar 2019 23:42 #24

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people need to understand this about the jews against zionism - well specifically naturei karta - they oppose zionism on the religious ground that until thier moshiach comes, they must be in exile. Once he comes they will lay claim to the same real estate that the zionists currently do, and they will quite happily use force to ensure they get it.


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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 12 Mar 2019 01:37 #25

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people need to understand this about the jews against zionism - well specifically naturei karta - they oppose zionism on the religious ground that until thier moshiach comes, they must be in exile. Once he comes they will lay claim to the same real estate that the zionists currently do, and they will quite happily use force to ensure they get it.
Do they have their own website that you know of, which states their philosophy?
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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 12 Mar 2019 02:11 #26

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Do they have their own website that you know of, which states their philosophy?
I see this on the Jews United Against Zionism (Neturei Karta International) website:
WHAT IS THE NETUREI KARTA?

Neturei Karta opposed the establishment of and retain all opposition to the existence of the so-called "State of Israel"!

Neturei-Karta is the Aramaic term for "Guardians of the City. The name Neturei-Karta originates from an incident in which R. Yehudah Ha-Nassi (Rabbi Judah the Prince) sent R. Hiyya and R. Ashi on a pastoral tour of inspection. In one town they asked to see the "guardians of the city" and the city guard was paraded before them. They said that these were not the guardians of the city but its destroyers, which prompted the citizens to ask who, then, could be considered the guardians. The rabbis answered, "The scribes and the scholars," referring them to Tehillim (Psalms) Chap. 127. (Jerusalem Talmud, Tractate Hagiga. 76c).

The name was given to a group of Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem who refused (and still refuse) to recognize the existence or authority of the so-called "State of Israel" and made (and still make) a point of publicly demonstrating their position, the position of the Torah and authentic unadulterated Judaism.

The group was founded in Jerusalem, Palestine in 1938, splitting off from Agudas Yisroel. Agudas Yisroel was established in 1912 for the purpose of fighting Zionism. Gradually lured by money and honor they sold out to the "Golden-Calf" (see Exodus, XXXII) of Zionism. Those who wanted to maintain their faith and continue the struggle against Zionism, dissociated themselves from Agudas Yisroel and associated parties.

Over the years, a number of Neturei Karta activists and followers settled outside of Palestine. Some of the reasons that these individuals abandoned the country in which they and their families had lived for many generations (having lived there many years prior to the establishment of the illegitimate so-called "State of Israel") include; ideological refusal to live under the illegitimate heretical "Israeli" regime, their being exiled by the Zionist government for their insistence of remaining independent of the illegitimate heretical regime or them being unable to live a normal family life due to them and their families being persistently harassed, repeatedly incarcerated and many times even physically tortured by the Zionist police and agents. This dispersion resulted in the emergence of various Neturei Karta establishments on the broader international scene. These establishments include synagogues, educational institutions, publishing houses and organizations. The establishments in New York include three synagogues in Brooklyn (Boro Park and Williamsburg), three upstate, and organizations include the Friends of Jerusalem in NY, NY.

Neturei Karta is not - as is often alleged - a small sect or an extremist group of "ultra-orthodox" Jews. The Neturei Karta have added nothing to nor have they taken anything away from the written and oral law of the Torah as it is expressed in the Halacha and the Shulchan Aruch. The Neturei Karta are fighting the changes and inroads made by political Zionism during the past one-hundred odd years. Guided by the rabbis of our time and under the inspiring leadership of the late Reb Amram Blau, the Neturei Karta refuse to recognize the right of anyone to establish a "Jewish" state during the present period of exile.

There are those who wish to play down the Neturei Karta and its' Torah-true beliefs. This has been attempted many a time by stating that the Neturei Karta is a minority group and that compared to other Jewish groups the Neturei Karta aren't even noticeable in terms of number.

The name Neturei Karta is a name usually given to those people who regularly pray in the Neturei Karta synagogues (Torah Ve'Yirah Jerusalem, Torah U'Tefillah London, Torah U'Tefillah NY, Beis Yehudi Upstate NY, etc.), study in or send their children to educational institutions run by Neturei Karta, or actively participate in activities, assemblies or demonstrations called by the Neturei Karta. Although it is true that the number of families which could be classified as Neturei Karta members or activists per-se is relatively small (several thousand), the number of Orthodox Jews who believe in the anti-Zionist ideology which Neturei Karta is known for, number in the hundreds of thousands.

Neturei Karta oppose the so-called "State of Israel" not because it operates secularly, but because the entire concept of a sovereign Jewish state is contrary to Jewish Law.


All the great rabbis who in accordance with Jewish Law opposed Zionism at its inception did not do so merely due to consideration of the secular lifestyles of the then Zionist leaders or even for their opposition to Torah heritage and rejection of its values and practices, but due to the fact that the entire concept of a Jewish state is in direct conflict with a number of Judaism's fundamentals.

Condemnation of and segregation from anything connected to or affiliated with the so-called modern day "State of Israel" is based on the Talmud, the key fundamental doctrine of the Oral Tradition handed down by G-d to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The Talmud in Tractate Kesubos (p. 111a), teaches that Jews shall not use human force to bring about the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted Moshiach (Messiah from the House of David). Furthermore it states that we are forbidden to rebel against the nations and that we should remain loyal citizens and we shall not attempt to leave the exile which G-d sent us into, ahead of time.

Jews are not allowed to dominate, kill, harm or demean another people and are not allowed to have anything to do with the Zionist enterprise, their political meddling and their wars.

Neturei Karta forbid any participation with the so-called "State of Israel" or any of its subsidiaries. Neturei Karta followers do not participate in "Israeli" elections nor do they accept any aid from "Bituach Le'Umi" (Social Security), and the educational institutions of the Neturei Karta reject any form of financial support from the so-called "Va'ad HaYeshivos" (equiv. to Department of Education).

The Zionist state employs a set of chief rabbis and uses religious parties to ornament their state with a clerical image. They study the Torah with commentaries altered to clothe the words with nationalistic nuances. Our rabbis have countless times proclaimed that it matters little which individuals or parties govern in the Zionist state because the very establishment and existence of the state itself is to be condemned and to be deplored.

The true Jews remain faithful to Jewish belief and are not contaminated with Zionism.

The true Jews are against dispossessing the Arabs of their land and homes. According to the Torah, the land should be returned to them.


Neturei Karta deplore the systematic uprooting of ancient Jewish communities by the Zionists, the shedding of Jewish and non-Jewish blood for the sake of Zionist sovereignty and the Neturei Karta favor a peaceful transition from the present Zionist rule to a non-Zionist entity.

According to Judaic Law the Torah has the last word. There is no such thing as a majority of Jews who happen to be Jewish by birth who can alter Torah Law in any way. In fact even the greatest rabbi or as Maimonides writes, "even the greatest prophet" [referring actually to an authentic prophet], has no right to distort or amend even one letter of the Torah.

Rabbi Blau stated shortly before his death that the acceptance by the United Nations of the Zionist state as a member state constituted a grave injustice to the Jewish people. Neturei Karta hope that this great error will be corrected at the earliest opportunity. The Neturei Karta regret that the Zionist state has usurped the holy name of Israel and that the Zionists so often pretend to speak in the name of the Jewish people and assume the right to act on our behalf. Only those rabbis who have not been affected or influenced by the poison of Zionism, can be considered the spiritual leaders of today's Jewry.

The world must know that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name Israel and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!

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I see it does not say what will happen after the coming of the Messiah. It's unclear.
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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 12 Mar 2019 11:05 #27

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Connect Dots wrote:
I see it does not say what will happen after the coming of the Messiah. It's unclear.

Re-reading this:
Jews shall not use human force to bring about the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted Moshiach (Messiah from the House of David).

www.nkusa.org/aboutus/index.cfm
Are we to assume they'll use human force after (but not before) the Messiah comes?

This is posted on the Jews United Against Zionism (Neturei Karta International) website:
The Rabbis Speak Out
The 130 Year Record of Religious Jewish Opposition to Zionism

Introduction


The Jews have always been religious people who lived with belief and trust in the Almighty. In their long history, they have gone through many different periods. There were times when they had their own land, sanctioned by the command of the Almighty. At other times, such as in the current era, they have been in exile.

In the course of the two thousand years of this current exile, following the destruction of the Temple, Jews have remained faithful to the Almighty. Knowing that their exile was His will and His decree, they have always accepted it, and have not risen up to fight with other nations or dominate them. They have lived loyally under whatever governments they happened to live.

The past century has seen the rise of the Zionist philosophy, which transforms Judaism from a religion to a nationalism, from spirituality to materialism. (The word “Zion” was used by the prophets as a name for Jerusalem. The secular nationalists borrowed the name for their movement, whose goal was to take over Jerusalem.) The Zionists convinced a segment of world Jewry to leave behind their faith in the Almighty, not to trust in His security, and to take matters into their own hands. They forced their way out of exile and built a “Jewish” state. This act in itself was a severe violation of the Torah, which forbids Jews to found their own state before the coming of the messiah.

The act is doubly sinful when we consider that they founded their state in the land already inhabited by the Palestinian people. They cruelly expelled, murdered and persecuted the Palestinians, and stole their land – all terrible crimes in the eyes of the Torah.

Zionism, starting from its founding day in the year 1897, aroused sharp condemnation from all the Rabbis, both in Palestine and around the world. All of religious Jewry was united in its opposition to this dangerous new movement, and fought it fiercely. The result was that Zionism took hold almost exclusively among non-religious Jews. And were it not for the tremendous downfall of Jewry in the Second World War, Zionism could never have conquered any part of religious Jewry. In the War, which preceded the establishment of the Zionist state by only a few years, the Jewish people was torn to pieces and lost almost all its greatest Rabbinical leaders. Many Jews lost their faith and felt defenseless and vulnerable, and they were taken in by the Zionists‟ promises to “defend the Jewish people.”

In this publication, we bring some excerpts from words of the Rabbis of past and present generations on Zionism. These are the Rabbis, giants of Judaism, by whose light religious Jews walk to this day. As the reader will see, they were totally opposed to the ideology of Zionism, the existence of the State of “Israel”, the Zionists and all of their acts.

We must note that many of the rabbis quoted here lived before the founding of the Zionist state, and although the Zionists even then had a long record of cruelty and brutality to the Palestinians, their intentions and actions were not widely known. In fact, the Zionists took care to present themselves as a movement to purchase land and settle in Palestine, not as a movement to make wars with other peoples and displace them. Therefore, the rabbis of that period focused their opposition on the Zionists‟ violations of the Torah and their rebellion against the Almighty‟s decree of exile.

Even in the period after 1948, the Zionists‟ crimes against the indigenous people of Palestine received almost no coverage in the international media and thus most of the Rabbis did not know about them. In the State of “Israel” itself, the Zionists understandably did not want to arouse public opinion and therefore their media, for many years, did not report on the plight of the Palestinian people; they forcibly blacked out any coverage of their own atrocities. It has only been in the last two or three decades, starting approximately with the Lebanon War of 1982, that the Western world has gained an awareness of these issues. This awareness is reflected in the words of the Rabbis of the most recent period.

We hope and wait for the day when the Almighty‟s glory will be revealed, “the earth will be full of knowledge of the Almighty” (Isaiah 11:9) and “the Almighty will be king over all the earth” (Zachariah 14:9). Then there will be a spiritual revolution in the entire world, and the Almighty will redeem all Peoples, as we say in our prayers, “All the nations will become one organization to do Your will with their whole heart.” And in the words of the Psalms (102:23), “Nations and governments will gather together to serve the Almighty.” May it be soon, in our days, amen.

www.nkusa.org/historical_documents/TheRabbisSpeakOut.htm#LinkTarget_3209

"In the course of the two thousand years of this current exile, following the destruction of the Temple, Jews have remained faithful to the Almighty. Knowing that their exile was His will and His decree, they have always accepted it, and have not risen up to fight with other nations or dominate them."

I have never been aware that Jews thought their exile was God's will and decree.

Does the coming of the Messiah simply mean God's decree will change peacefully? (Rather than there would be a military savior.)

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Robert David Steele's Educated Opinion About Happenings in the U.S. 12 Mar 2019 14:17 #28

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They have changed their website. This is from 2006 via the wayback machine at internet archive ( web.archive.org/web/20060101000000*/www.nkusa.org )and I admit they do say they feel for what is happening to the Palestinians but they also say that God gave them the land - see bolded text below. Universal peace sounds good but depends on how you interpret the jewish concept of Tikkun Olam (fixing the world). Those critical of jewish power/intentions see it as a world which is good for jews and the goyim are there to serve the jews. This idea of goyim serving jews is not made up by the way, it is established in jewish tradition and rabbis have even opensly stated this, such as the late Ovadiah Yusef who said goyim were created only to serve jews.

I do have to concede that NK do not openly state that they will behave towards palestinians as the zionists do now once they are no longer in exile. I was confusing their message with a yt video called when Israel is Mighty
its only 12 mins long but contains some insight on jewish mindset. If what is in the video is true then as jews NK also has this worldview. It is no surprise that they do not state this openly.
However, despite the media blackout and easy resort to terror the simple truth remains unrefuted and irrefutable: ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!

The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.

Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process.

The Creator has commanded every Jew to follow the ways of peace and to be loyal to the country where he lives.

Torah true Jewry waits patiently for the Messianic redemption. They have nothing to do with any kind of pseudo "Jewish State" and its aggressions against other peoples. They have a deep sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians who have suffered the most from Zionism's false teachings and barbaric actions. The Zionist state is not a Jewish state. The Zionists alone are the only ones responsible for their actions. Authentic Jewry has and will continue to oppose the very existence of this blasphemous state.

May all mankind witness the true redemption.


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