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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 29 Apr 2019 15:05 #1

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Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I wasn't sure where best to post it...

Hi, I am new to the forum and new to all this in general having had my eyes opened to the realities of the world just over a year ago now. Since then I have been on a frenzy of gathering as much info as possible and the waters have been getting muddier and muddier along the way the more I find out. I am now at the point of not knowing what to believe, who is fake, who is genuine and most importantly what to do about it all. My partner isn't interested in any of this stuff and I don't know anyone else I would be comfortable bringing it up with just yet, so I'm just left here having had my worldview turned upside down and I guess I am feeling a bit lost.

Does this sound familiar to anyone and if so, how do you readjust to living a normal life and make positive changes in light of what you now know? The main areas that I can see to make practical changes are in my diet and health, i.e medications I take, etc. But in terms of day to day life, I still have to work every day, pay my taxes, etc etc and I can't see anything really changing.

I think what I am trying to say is I have found out so much, seen how some things are not at all like how I thought they were but really nothing is going to change in my day to day life and I find this frustrating.

Does anyone have any tips about how to cope with this adjustment in mindset, either emotional/spiritual/practical, basically anything at all that helped you at this stage of your journey?

Thank you :)
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 29 Apr 2019 15:27 #2

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You can still live a completely normal life knowing anything that's discussed on this forum.

Stay away from alcohol, fast food, television, watching sports, porn, unnecessary drugs ect...

As for politics try not to get upset about what you don't have the power to change.

Most people are open to talk about all this stuff irl if you're objective and not abrasive about it.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 29 Apr 2019 16:03 #3

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Yea, I guess we all sometimes want to know how the steak tastes again.

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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 29 Apr 2019 17:10 #4

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I was reminded of that exact scene when typing my original post! Can't say I wouldn't be tempted if I had the opportunity to go back!
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 30 Apr 2019 01:48 #5

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Its tough sometimes, since so many people believe in govt being chosen by them (elections) and working for them so much.

You have to be careful what you say alot of the time or else you will be getting looked at like this...




So assess people and situations carefully, around the wrong kind of people even attempting to drop hints at what you are thinking about some topics is problematic and risky/possibly damaging.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 30 Apr 2019 04:27 #6

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novum wrote:
Its tough sometimes, since so many people believe in govt being chosen by them (elections) and working for them so much.

You have to be careful what you say alot of the time or else you will be getting looked at like this...
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So assess people and situations carefully, around the wrong kind of people even attempting to drop hints at what you are thinking about some topics is problematic and risky/possibly damaging.

You can't fix stupid
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 30 Apr 2019 10:54 #7

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novum wrote:
Its tough sometimes, since so many people believe in govt being chosen by them (elections) and working for them so much.

You have to be careful what you say alot of the time or else you will be getting looked at like this...




So assess people and situations carefully, around the wrong kind of people even attempting to drop hints at what you are thinking about some topics is problematic and risky/possibly damaging.

Yes, I've already had that look a couple of times from my partner. I now think I'm of the opinion that there's almost nothing you can do to help someone see what's under their nose if they don't want to see it. No matter what they are shown, they will only open their eyes when they are ready (if at all).
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 30 Apr 2019 12:36 #8

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Firefly, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. You describe an all-too-familiar feeling people who woke up to the lies, scams, hoaxes and psyops have.

We are surrounded by people living in Disneyland, as I like to call it, by definition we will be a minority always. Truth seeking is a hard effort and it is not for everyone, just like recreational psychedelic drugs.

My methods to deal with it is to ask questions when it comes up in conversations. It is great, because it makes people think. Stick with the topics you know most about/are most passionate about and do not overwhelm them and definitely don't proselytize. Most people do have doubts about something and when you discover that, you can tap into that and casually bring up related topics or if you appear to know a lot about that subject, talk about that one.

What works best is to have your own research, so you don't need to rely on other (controlled?) people for your knowledge.

And above all, if you can, use HUMOR.

Two great comedians to learn from are Steve Hughes (Australian) and Owen Benjamin (US American).
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 30 Apr 2019 18:01 #9

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Firefly wrote:
Yes, I've already had that look a couple of times from my partner. I now think I'm of the opinion that there's almost nothing you can do to help someone see what's under their nose if they don't want to see it. No matter what they are shown, they will only open their eyes when they are ready (if at all).

Yea... I got redpilled on 9-11, the New World Order and a months later on the Holocaust-hoax back in 2008.

I tried discussing it with my wife and she thought I had gone mad. Especially when I started talking about the Holohoax.

She said: 'Now you've REALLY lost your mind!!" (as she had even paid a visit to the Auschwitz with a schooltrip)


But, as time progressed she slowly started to see bits and pieces and over the years she slowly became redpilled.

Not as fanatic as I am, but she just 'knows'. She won't be looking for stuff herself as she's not the kind of lady to go looking for it.

But when I've found a nice Adolf Hitler video or documentary I tell her to shut off the t.v. and have a look before she can proceed every once in a while.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 01 May 2019 15:06 #10

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Gaia wrote:

My methods to deal with it is to ask questions when it comes up in conversations. It is great, because it makes people think. Stick with the topics you know most about/are most passionate about and do not overwhelm them and definitely don't proselytize. Most people do have doubts about something and when you discover that, you can tap into that and casually bring up related topics or if you appear to know a lot about that subject, talk about that one.

Thanks, it's hard to remain calm in the face of frustration sometimes, but this sounds like a good approach
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 01 May 2019 15:08 #11

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But when I've found a nice Adolf Hitler video or documentary I tell her to shut off the t.v. and have a look before she can proceed every once in a while.

My partner is interest in WW2 so maybe that would be a good way in for him. Is there a particular video you would recommend as a good introduction? (I know I said people will do things in their own time but it can't hurt to give him a little nudge :P )
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 01 May 2019 15:17 #12

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Firefly wrote:
Flare wrote:
But when I've found a nice Adolf Hitler video or documentary I tell her to shut off the t.v. and have a look before she can proceed every once in a while.

My partner is interest in WW2 so maybe that would be a good way in for him. Is there a particular video you would recommend as a good introduction? (I know I said people will do things in their own time but it can't hurt to give him a little nudge :P )

Oh oh.....expect a Hitler compilation coming your way......Flare isn't awake, he's just rolled over in his sleep, he's having a wet dream about Dolfy.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 01 May 2019 16:29 #13

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My partner is interest in WW2 so maybe that would be a good way in for him. Is there a particular video you would recommend as a good introduction? (I know I said people will do things in their own time but it can't hurt to give him a little nudge :P )
I´m not much into videos. Whatever you do – DO NOT start with a topic that´s just “too” controversial like the Holocaust.

If you want to investigate WW II, maybe it´s best to start with a relatively “small” sub-topic...

The Morgenthau plan in which millions of Germans were starved to death by the Allied “heroes” could be good start: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1340#p4874

For the big picture you could look at the support for Hitler from banksters from Britain and the US, like for example Governor of the Bank of England Montagu Norman; the good friend of Hitler´s chief economic adviser Hjalmar Schacht.

For the even bigger picture I suggest looking at the Pan-Europa Union and Mont Pelerin Society: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1340&start=30#p5557

When Brexit was staged, the “Nazi” Pan-Europa Union suddenly got a lot of attention, including videos...
Donald Trump is very cozy with the Rothschild crime syndicate: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1038&start=40#p4587
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 01 May 2019 17:00 #14

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Frothy wrote:
Firefly wrote:
Flare wrote:
But when I've found a nice Adolf Hitler video or documentary I tell her to shut off the t.v. and have a look before she can proceed every once in a while.

My partner is interest in WW2 so maybe that would be a good way in for him. Is there a particular video you would recommend as a good introduction? (I know I said people will do things in their own time but it can't hurt to give him a little nudge :P )

Oh oh.....expect a Hitler compilation coming your way......Flare isn't awake, he's just rolled over in his sleep, he's having a wet dream about Dolfy.
Oh oh.....expect a Marx compilation coming your way......Frothy isn't awake, he's just rolled over in his sleep, he's having a wet dream about Marx.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 02 May 2019 14:12 #15

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Rocco wrote:
Frothy wrote:
Firefly wrote:
Flare wrote:
But when I've found a nice Adolf Hitler video or documentary I tell her to shut off the t.v. and have a look before she can proceed every once in a while.

My partner is interest in WW2 so maybe that would be a good way in for him. Is there a particular video you would recommend as a good introduction? (I know I said people will do things in their own time but it can't hurt to give him a little nudge :P )

Oh oh.....expect a Hitler compilation coming your way......Flare isn't awake, he's just rolled over in his sleep, he's having a wet dream about Dolfy.
Oh oh.....expect a Marx compilation coming your way......Frothy isn't awake, he's just rolled over in his sleep, he's having a wet dream about Marx.

I've never posted a video about Marx as far as I remember...nor do I proposed to be 'red pilled' a phrase from a film produced by a transgender Jew :yupgrin:.

I don't think Marx is great or the bravest ever, or any sort of hero or saviour, I don't know much about his life or care to know, I simply think his economic theory was pretty good, that's all. Saying that, I don't preach it nor do I have these elongated mega protected threads on TZ as if they were a shrine :yupgrin:
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 02 May 2019 14:39 #16

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Firestarter wrote:
Firefly wrote:
My partner is interest in WW2 so maybe that would be a good way in for him. Is there a particular video you would recommend as a good introduction? (I know I said people will do things in their own time but it can't hurt to give him a little nudge :P )
I´m not much into videos. Whatever you do – DO NOT start with a topic that´s just “too” controversial like the Holocaust.

If you want to investigate WW II, maybe it´s best to start with a relatively “small” sub-topic...

The Morgenthau plan in which millions of Germans were starved to death by the Allied “heroes” could be good start: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1340#p4874

For the big picture you could look at the support for Hitler from banksters from Britain and the US, like for example Governor of the Bank of England Montagu Norman; the good friend of Hitler´s chief economic adviser Hjalmar Schacht.

For the even bigger picture I suggest looking at the Pan-Europa Union and Mont Pelerin Society: www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1340&start=30#p5557

When Brexit was staged, the “Nazi” Pan-Europa Union suddenly got a lot of attention, including videos...

Thank you
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 02 May 2019 14:40 #17

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Has anyone made any practical changes to their life as a result of all this? Changes to your lifestyle or work for example?
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 04 May 2019 01:50 #18

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Has anyone made any practical changes to their life as a result of all this? Changes to your lifestyle or work for example?

Yes, some.

First of all, dont let propaganda get to you, try associate with like minded people wherever possible, and even online if real life is out of the question... find support wherever you can get it and know the majority of people are followers, dont let that get to you or mess with your head regarding who you are.

Eating better, avoiding the poisons in food as much as possible, like preservatives, colourings, added veg and soy oils, avoid sugar as much as possible. Try avoid any packaged foods basically, at least as much as possible or as much as your willpower can handle. Even cutting back is better than just gulping down all the poisons like one does when they are unaware.

Avoid tap water like the plague, im now at the point where I not only dont drink it or cook with it, i dont touch it at all or shower in it. More recently, the water in my city started to smell so chemically, it basically smelled like roundup mixed with chlorine. I also know it has sodium hexafluorsilicate added as well as aluminium flocculants.

The water thing is tough for many people, it requires a larger property with yards/land or rural dwelling.

It also depends on where one is, the water isnt so bad in some places.. in others its a KBR Halliburton / big pharma experiment.

Dont fall into the trap of buying stuff just because you think you have to, to keep up with the jonses and combses.

Stay out of debt wherever possible, this feeds the bankers and their system, which seems to be their #1 cash cow and the #1 thing they wish to defend.

Become self sufficient as much as possible, food, water, repairs and so on. If not self employed where possible.

Try drop red pills as much as possible to spread awareness, in any way you can.. either anonymously on line or in real life where possible in situations where it wont be detrimental to yourself.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 04 May 2019 02:35 #19

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Avoid tap water like the plague, im now at the point where I not only dont drink it or cook with it, i dont touch it at all or shower in it. More recently, the water in my city started to smell so chemically, it basically smelled like roundup mixed with chlorine. I also know it has sodium hexafluorsilicate added as well as aluminium flocculants.

The water thing is tough for many people, it requires a larger property with yards/land or rural dwelling.

It also depends on where one is, the water isnt so bad in some places.. in others its a KBR Halliburton / big pharma experiment.

What do you do about water?

I know the water around here is bad when i always see the Mexican's buying cases of bottled water.
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Do you ever wish you were still asleep? 04 May 2019 02:50 #20

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I have good water underneath me, ground water that is drinking quality.

Im aware many people wont be able to do what I do, as its a situational thing... and bores arent cheap either... mines 180m deep, and a submersible pump to pump it out.

From that I fill 20,000 litres of tanks that are above ground, and a pressure pump similar to the link below (mines german not chinese though) hooked up to the base of the tanks replicates the mains water.

www.ebay.com/itm/New-Home-220V-Screw-Pump-Automatic-Self-priming-Booster-Pump-Pressure-Water-Pump/163618299402?hash=item2618691e0a:g:ykEAAOSw7Khcmwd7

Im not sure what people could do in urban areas when they cant have a well/bore, other than catch rain water and put it in a tank like i do and use a pressure pump.

With a pressure pump you can actually turn off your mains water tap, disconnect the pipe on your end of the mains meter and plumb it to your pressure pump, it will feed an entire house if sized correctly... it only runs when a tap (faucet) is turned on.. it will start pumping to maintain a set pressure, it replicates mains pressure basically.
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