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TOPIC: What if both sides of the narrative are a lie?

What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 21 Aug 2020 13:38 #1

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The Punch & Judy show is presented for you to pick a side, either Punch or Judy.

The narrative of each character is there to coerce you into picking their side.

What if both narratives are a lie?

To divide the people so that they can be conquered, you require them to have a Punch and a Judy to choose between. So you set up a Punch & Judy show to divide the support of the people and then turn them against each other. So who wins the fight between the Punch supporters and the Judy supporters?

Can one slave find freedom by fighting another slave?
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 21 Aug 2020 17:26 #2

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Both sides of the narrative are a lie. Communism and Capitalism are both problems. People need to adopt a third position.
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 21 Aug 2020 19:43 #3

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Both sides of the narrative are a lie. Communism and Capitalism are both problems. People need to adopt a third position.

Hasn't it always been this way ?
Why ?
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 21 Aug 2020 20:36 #4

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NotInThisBloodyHouse wrote:
EW wrote:
Both sides of the narrative are a lie. Communism and Capitalism are both problems. People need to adopt a third position.

Hasn't it always been this way ?

Probably, I believe so anyway.

To be fair though, I don't know what two narratives OP is talking about anyway. Probably nationalist vs globalist.
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 21 Aug 2020 20:51 #5

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exilium wrote:
simply watch these bigots come out of the woodwork like a worm and hit out for dear life

Forget religion for a moment.

Do you believe that every culture has the right to rule their own homeland, Gan? Do you believe in national sovereignty, or do you think the few should control the many (world government)?

I believe that all cultures deserve the right to self-determination and I also believe in national sovereignty. If that makes me a bigot by today's standards then so be it.
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 21 Aug 2020 21:16 #6

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Awaits for the innevitable "borders are a man made concept" and "we're all one" post, to which I will reply in advanced by saying borders wouldn't have to be made if we were truly all one. People can dream about singing kumbaya together all they want, but the reality is that people are still very tribal and I'm pretty sure TPTB know this, which is why they expolit our differences by playing us against each other.
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 22 Aug 2020 00:55 #7

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Corporatism (fascism) and Communism (marxism) are indeed both part of the same group.

- based on fear
- based on violence
- based on greed
- based on destroying human creativity and independent thought

That is why WWII was staged like it was. It was a huge experiment, just like the Cold War and the Corona War now.

The only way out is to take our fate over our own lives into our own hands. And connect likeminded people who do the same.

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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 22 Aug 2020 01:06 #8

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Gaia wrote:
Corporatism (fascism) and Communism (marxism) are indeed both part of the same group.

- based on fear
- based on violence
- based on greed
- based on destroying human creativity and independent thought

That is why WWII was staged like it was. It was a huge experiment, just like the Cold War and the Corona War now.

The only way out is to take our fate over our own lives into our own hands. And connect likeminded people who do the same.

Agorism.

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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 22 Aug 2020 01:11 #9

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EW wrote:
Both sides of the narrative are a lie. Communism and Capitalism are both problems. People need to adopt a third position.

^ Exactly this yes.

It was not for nothing that all of the Capitalist and Communist worlds combined forces in order to destroy Fascism / National Socialism.

It was because the jews, who are behind capitalism and communism, were afraid to lose their power over the world.
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 22 Aug 2020 01:21 #10

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exilium wrote:
EW wrote:
Awaits for the innevitable "borders are a man made concept" and "we're all one" post, to which I will reply in advanced by saying borders wouldn't have to be made if we were truly all one. People can dream about singing kumbaya together all they want, but the reality is that people are still very tribal and I'm pretty sure TPTB know this, which is why they expolit our differences by playing us against each other.

We for the most part play each other by taking advantage of someone elses creativity and robbing others of theirs, mainly down to false paradigms like money and mind control to prevent us from seeing things in a clear light, the natives danced and sung cumbyyah in their way from respect for nature and those i it, yet never saw themselves above or beyond nature as modern ideologies do.

Fucking hell man... what are you even trying to say?

You come up with nothing constructive or worthwile... while in the meantime the jews are destroying our societies and entire race along with it.

Got any ‘creative’ plans to stop them perhaps, in stead of telling bullcrap, MacGyver?
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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 22 Aug 2020 04:09 #11

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EW wrote:
NotInThisBloodyHouse wrote:
EW wrote:
Both sides of the narrative are a lie. Communism and Capitalism are both problems. People need to adopt a third position.

Hasn't it always been this way ?

Probably, I believe so anyway.

To be fair though, I don't know what two narratives OP is talking about anyway. Probably nationalist vs globalist.

G'day EW.

The narratives are the two sides of the debate / conflict, two sides of a coin.

Science vs Religion
Right vs Wrong
Male vs Female
Gay vs Straight
Us vs Them

Yet as you have already recognised there is a third option, the edge of the coin, which is neither of the two sides.

Logical Fallacy
False Dilemma
Description:
When only two choices are presented yet more exist, or a spectrum of possible choices exists between two extremes. False dilemmas are usually characterized by “either this or that” language, but can also be characterized by omissions of choices.

So when you are asked to choose either this side or that side, then you are being presented with a false dilemma, a logical fallacy. The use of a false dilemma gives away the motive behind the one using it for the purpose of using it is control. Attempting to limit your choices using a false dilemma is what both sides of the narrative do to get you to be a 'follower' of their side, that is, under their control.

Back in the Roman senate it was expressed as, 'He who controls the mob controls the senate'. So each faction, each side, is attempting to control the mob so that they can control the senate. It is no different today. Both sides of the narrative are attempting to control the mob, the people, the 99%, so that they can be the one in power, authority, Caesar / God.

When a side is chosen, then disempowerment is accomplished because one slave fighting another slave, no matter who wins, does not free the slave nor any of the other slaves. It is the process of what is known as 'Divide and Conquer'.

Today we can see this played out in so many ways, especially with the covid-1984 narratives.
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.


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What if both sides of the narrative are a lie? 22 Aug 2020 04:19 #12

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Flare wrote:
EW wrote:
Both sides of the narrative are a lie. Communism and Capitalism are both problems. People need to adopt a third position.

^ Exactly this yes.

It was not for nothing that all of the Capitalist and Communist worlds combined forces in order to destroy Fascism / National Socialism.

It was because the jews, who are behind capitalism and communism, were afraid to lose their power over the world.

G'day Flare.

Capitalism
Communism
National Socialism

It appears that you love your ism's. :ponda:

Swapping one leader for another leader will not change your enslavement to a leader.

Fighting the other slaves will not gain your freedom.

National Socialism is simply another side to choose provided by those attempting to control you. A Punch & Judy show.

The 'red pill' can be a hard one to swallow when it helps you to recognise that you are part of the problem. :thumbup:
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.

When paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you.


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