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TOPIC: TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death

TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 25 Jul 2013 12:35 #1

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an excerpt from the book

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations

by John Coleman


The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations has had a profound effect on the moral, spiritual, cultural, political and economic policies of the United States of America and Great Britain. It has been in the front line of the attack on the U.S. Constitution and State constitutions. No group did more to propagandize the U.S. to participate in WWI at a time when the majority of the American people were opposed to it.

Much of the same tactics were used by the Social Science scientists at Tavistock to get the United States into WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Serbia and both wars against Iraq.

Tavistock began as a propaganda creating and disseminating organization at Wellington House in London in the run-up to WWI, what Toynbee called "that black hole of disinformation, a lie factory."

In 1821, operations that were to shape the destinies of Germany, Russia, Britain and the United States were transferred to the Tavistock Institute.

The people of these nations were unaware that they were being "brainwashed." Tavistock's "mind control," "inner directional conditioning" and mass "brainwashing" methods, still very much in use today, are explained in this easy to understand book written with great authority.

The fall of dynasties, the Bolshevik Revolution, WWI and WWII saw the destruction of old alliances and boundaries, the convulsions in religion, morals, family life, economic and political conduct and the decadence in music and art that can all be traced back to mass indoctrination (mass brainwashing) practiced by the Tavistock Institute Social Science scientists. Prominent among Tavistock's faculty was Edward Bernays, the double nephew of Sigmund Freud.

This is a book about the past, present and future. Without Tavistock, there would have been no Bolshevik Revolution and no WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Serbia and Iraq wars.

The book is stunning in the new knowledge that it reveals about the hidden role of British oligarchs to shape and control public opinion in order to manipulate the British public (and later the American public) into accepting the notion that war with Germany was necessary in order “to secure a lasting peace.” …


To be read with a critical mind
antimatrix.org/Convert/Coleman_The_Tavistock_Images.html
antimatrix.org/Convert/Coleman_The_Tavistock_Institute_of_Human_Relations_2005.html

Mainstream Info
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_Institute
www.tavinstitute.org/our-people/governance/council/
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 26 Jul 2013 08:22 #2

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I started this thread because of this comment


Chuck Random wrote:

The most famous person to come out of Tavistock was R D Laing. He did fantastic work.
The Frankfurt school was a bunch of pretty moral progressive left wingers.





Theodor Adorno (born 9/11) was a leading professor of the Frankfurt School of Social Research in Germany, founded by the British Fabian Society. A collaborator of twelve-tone formalist and British intelligence operative Arnold Schoenberg, Adorno was brought to the United States in 1939 to head the Princeton Radio Research Project.
The aim of this project, as stated in Adorno's Introduction to the Sociology of Music, was to program a mass "musical" culture that would steadily degrade its consumers. Punk rock is, in the most direct sense, the ultimate result of Adorno's work.

Adorno memorial in bankster city Frankfurt aka Mainhattan commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Adornodenkmal


Many people are familiar with the impact of the Leipzig and Frankfurt Schools upon society, but relatively few understand the impact of Tavistock. Therefore, this article will look at that organization and how it has shaped/planned our lives and the course of the world.

tavistockagenda.weebly.com/tavi-overview.html


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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 26 Jul 2013 20:13 #3

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
I started this thread because of this comment


Chuck Random wrote:

The most famous person to come out of Tavistock was R D Laing. He did fantastic work.
The Frankfurt school was a bunch of pretty moral progressive left wingers.





Theodor Adorno (born 9/11) was a leading professor of the Frankfurt School of Social Research in Germany, founded by the British Fabian Society. A collaborator of twelve-tone formalist and British intelligence operative Arnold Schoenberg, Adorno was brought to the United States in 1939 to head the Princeton Radio Research Project.
The aim of this project, as stated in Adorno's Introduction to the Sociology of Music, was to program a mass "musical" culture that would steadily degrade its consumers. Punk rock is, in the most direct sense, the ultimate result of Adorno's work.

Adorno memorial in bankster city Frankfurt aka Mainhattan commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Adornodenkmal


Many people are familiar with the impact of the Leipzig and Frankfurt Schools upon society, but relatively few understand the impact of Tavistock. Therefore, this article will look at that organization and how it has shaped/planned our lives and the course of the world.

tavistockagenda.weebly.com/tavi-overview.html


Mainstream Information
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Cheers Pfiz. I'll look at at it as and when I get round to it. But John Coleman is a crackpot, so I'm not very excited.

I also dispute this 'Tavistock wsa responsible for Hitler stuff' in your link. eugenics was a major theory back in the day. That is well understood. It was regarded as scientifically reputable and was not very controversial. The point is, Hitler's regime showed where that thinking leads to in the mass extermination of 'useless eaters' - people with disabilities - and 'racially undesirable' groups - basically Jews and Gypsies. Other countries only went as far as sterilisation (bad enough).
A brief glance looks like it's a bunch of the usual conspiranoid mixture of decontexualisation, sendsationalism and outright bullshit.
It also looks like a lot of that inane 'this person was here, so that's what it's all about' silliness. You know like saying Chomsky is a professor at MIT so therefore MIT is pushing libertarian socialism.
But I shall persevere, so thanks again.
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 26 Jul 2013 23:45 #4

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To be read with a critical mind
antimatrix.org/Convert/Coleman_The_Tavistock_Images.html
antimatrix.org/Convert/Coleman_The_Tavis..._Relations_2005.html

Pfiz, I tried reading this with a "critical mind" and discovered it to be the ramblings of a lunatic. I got to the bit where it was (baselessly) claiming Margaret Mead was into brainwashing people (!?) and realised it was pointless to continue. It's just full of bizarre assertions backed by nothing and a bunch of arbitrary linkages.

It's a right wing rant permeated by some unsavoury racism. I mean
The planners at Tavistock saw that the way to upset the balance of Western civilization was to force unwelcome changes in the race by removing control from the deserving to the undeserving in the manner of ancient Roman leaders who were supplanted by their former slaves and aliens, whom they had permitted to come and dwell among them.

this (as seems to be generally the case here) apparently based on nothing more than whatever delusions the writer is experiencing.

It's just a load of paranoid right wing fantasies.
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 26 Jul 2013 23:48 #5

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We see it also in the glorification of interracial marriages, divorce on demand, abortion, and blatant homosexual and lesbian behavior, in the loss of religious beliefs and in Western civilization family life.

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But that was only the beginning. In 1935 with Hitler rising to power, guaranteed by the impossible conditions forced upon Germany at Versailles, hemlines were also rising to the dizzy height of the knees, except in Germany, where Hitler was demanding modesty from German womanhood and getting it, along with wholesome respect, which did not suit Tavistock's book.

:rofl:

The New World Order destroyed the Third Reich because their skirts were too long.

You read it here first!
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 27 Jul 2013 20:56 #7

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If I were a mod or the admin here, I surely would delete any blatant mainstream crap.



And the reason why I signed in here in the first place was that there is no RULE which prohibits discussing moderation.
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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 27 Jul 2013 21:15 #8

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
If I were a mod or the admin here, I surely would delete any blatant mainstream crap.



And the reason why I signed in here in the first place was that there is no RULE which prohibits discussing moderation.

Deleting stuff isnt really what we want to be doing here though PFIZ, what you can do tho is present your information and no one is going to stop you doing so, unlike the mainstream media, newspaper comments and so on, where they edit and delete anything that doesnt fit into what they want to see.
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 27 Jul 2013 21:43 #9

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
If I were a mod or the admin here, I surely would delete any blatant mainstream crap.

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That sounds rather like you would like to suppress anything that does not conform to personal worldview does it not?
Do you actively advocate censorship of views contrary to your own?

How can you be in a position to complain about any censorship you perceive in the world if you yourself call for the censorship of anything you personally deem to be "mainstream"?

This notion also requires definition. It is "mainstream" to say that the battle of Hastings happened in 1066. Is this false because this is a "mainstream" fact? Are you a 'no-Normaner' or think it happened in 1273 or something? It is not "mainstream" to say that the evil Deros live in cave cities beneath the earth, opposed by the noble Teros. Should we therefore assume Richard Shaver was speaking the truth regarding the reality of the world? Your position appears to me to be highly illogical and in need of further clarification.
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 28 Jul 2013 01:44 #10

No chuck no need for clarification, individual a has religious beliefs and almost Paulian conviction in them, therefore looks for confirmatory material (which anti-semitic blogs and reactionary Cters provide) and tries to remove contradictory material, ie accepted collective reality, common sense, non paranoid delusional theories etc that you find in the mainstream.

With individuals who hold such flimsy, delusional and offensive beliefs, the paranoia they feel is not misguided and in ways supports their ability to hold such clearly wrong opinions etc, they need to hide themselves from the contradictory reality to support their personal convictions.
Many well-known psychologists and psychiatrists have passed through the Tavistock Institute over the years, and it became known as the focal point in Britain for psychoanalysis and the psychodynamic theories of Sigmund Freud and his followers. Other names associated with the Tavistock are Melanie Klein, Carl Gustav Jung, J. A. Hadfield, Beckett, Charles Rycroft, Wilfred Bion, and R. D. Laing.

Pfiz I've asked you before have you ever been diagnosed as Paranoid Schizophrenic?
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No chuck no need for clarification, individual a has religious beliefs and almost Paulian conviction in them, therefore looks for confirmatory material (which anti-semitic blogs and reactionary Cters provide) and tries to remove contradictory material, ie accepted collective reality, common sense, non paranoid delusional theories etc that you find in the mainstream.

With individuals who hold such flimsy, delusional and offensive beliefs, the paranoia they feel is not misguided and in ways supports their ability to hold such clearly wrong opinions etc, they need to hide themselves from the contradictory reality to support their personal convictions.
Many well-known psychologists and psychiatrists have passed through the Tavistock Institute over the years, and it became known as the focal point in Britain for psychoanalysis and the psychodynamic theories of Sigmund Freud and his followers. Other names associated with the Tavistock are Melanie Klein, Carl Gustav Jung, J. A. Hadfield, Beckett, Charles Rycroft, Wilfred Bion, and R. D. Laing.

Pfiz I've asked you before have you ever been diagnosed as Paranoid Schizophrenic?



Your comment is exemplary and proof for what is stated in the OP because it is exactly what you are doing.
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 28 Jul 2013 11:34 #12

It's just really interesting to me where this deep abiding mistrust of psychology and psychotherapy comes from?
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Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
It's just really interesting to me where this deep abiding mistrust of psychology and psychotherapy comes from?

I am aware who invented it, who uses and controls it how and for what reason.

And because

“Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life.”
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 28 Jul 2013 12:21 #14

Are you aware that prior to psychotherapy, punishments such as electroshock therapy, confinement, segregation, isolation and more physical abuse akin to torture were the favoured methods of "treatment" for psyche patients?

Did you know that after WWI troops who came home with PTSD and various shock related illness after witnessing the horrors of war, were often electroshocked and lobotomized as treatment?

Freud's contribution of psychotherapy, one to one communication etc has saved countless of millions from suffering similar abuse.

Maybe you suppose Freud to have been a bad person, are we to assume therefore that you think mental patients should be tortured and lobotomised, segregated and punished, instead of psychoanalyzed?
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Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
Are you aware that prior to psychotherapy, punishments such as electroshock therapy, confinement, segregation, isolation and more physical abuse akin to torture were the favoured methods of "treatment" for psyche patients?

Did you know that after WWI troops who came home with PTSD and various shock related illness after witnessing the horrors of war, were often electroshocked and lobotomized as treatment?

Freud's contribution of psychotherapy, one to one communication etc has saved countless of millions from suffering similar abuse.

Maybe you suppose Freud to have been a bad person, are we to assume therefore that you think mental patients should be tortured and lobotomised, segregated and punished, instead of psychoanalyzed?


Tavistock methods don't work on me, hasbara.
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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
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where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 28 Jul 2013 13:08 #16

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Just out of interest Pfiz, what interventions would you support for people with mental health problems?
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TAVISTOCK - Brainwashing the World to Death 28 Jul 2013 15:04 #17

PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
Are you aware that prior to psychotherapy, punishments such as electroshock therapy, confinement, segregation, isolation and more physical abuse akin to torture were the favoured methods of "treatment" for psyche patients?

Did you know that after WWI troops who came home with PTSD and various shock related illness after witnessing the horrors of war, were often electroshocked and lobotomized as treatment?

Freud's contribution of psychotherapy, one to one communication etc has saved countless of millions from suffering similar abuse.

Maybe you suppose Freud to have been a bad person, are we to assume therefore that you think mental patients should be tortured and lobotomised, segregated and punished, instead of psychoanalyzed?


Tavistock methods don't work on me, hasbara.

Name calling does work on me :sulk: :hrumf:
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Ultimate seeker - you are not living up to your name.
Freud was a Fraud - brought way more harm than any help . He was a founder of Tavistock.
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Watch this it's pre freudian treatment of depression, ptsd, hysteria and other complaints, i'll be back on this afternoon:
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Ultimate seeker - you are not living up to your name.
Freud was a Fraud - brought way more harm than any help . He was a founder of Tavistock.
leaderu.org/ftissues/ft9302/reviews/vitz.html

And one sick porn addicted twisted mind, too.
All of his personal character/brain/sex perversions went down into current "science" as god given illuminations of mankind.
One of the most vicious brainwashers and father of msm mind control!
Most of the shrinks I met were same "bloodine" and basically disturbed persons.
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