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TOPIC: September 11 - The 9/11 Thread

Another year another 911 anniversary 16 Sep 2014 03:51 #61

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Rodin do you believe in the no plane theory?

Makes more sense than any official bullshit.

You have to consider equal and opposite reaction. Plane hitting building at 500MPH = building hitting plane @ 500 MPH

Planes hit the Towers and people died.

My childhood friend died in the pentagon, and a friend from school died in the towers.

As for who set 9/11 up that's where the conspiracy is...
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Another year another 911 anniversary 16 Sep 2014 04:09 #62

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Rodin do you believe in the no plane theory?

Makes more sense than any official bullshit.

You have to consider equal and opposite reaction. Plane hitting building at 500MPH = building hitting plane @ 500 MPH

Planes hit the Towers and people died.

My childhood friend died in the pentagon, and a friend from school died in the towers.

As for who set 9/11 up that's where the conspiracy is...

No Planes . Thermite. Mossad and neo -zons .....patriot acts and constant war on innocents......I think your rather suss myself . :ponda:
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No Planes . Thermite. Mossad and neo -zons .....patriot acts and constant war on innocents......I think your rather suss myself . :ponda:

fixed
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No Planes . Thermite. Mossad and neo -zons .....patriot acts and constant war on innocents......I think your rather suss myself . :ponda:

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yeah - your a fixer I think.
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No Planes . Thermite. Mossad and neo -zons .....patriot acts and constant war on innocents......I think your rather suss myself . :ponda:

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yeah - your a fixer I think.
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What do these pics prove?

I'm a fixer of what? :conf:
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Another year another 911 anniversary 16 Sep 2014 20:43 #66

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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 18 Sep 2014 11:06 #67

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The resident shill announced
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yet he is trolling further. :facepalm:

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the lice are only going to jump onto other typhus victim

Prime example of holocaustianity mental issues, clinically insane, and utterly ill informed, a danger to public health if this dude was working for CDC.
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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 22 Sep 2014 02:41 #68

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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 25 Oct 2014 11:32 #69

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Ground Zero - A Russian's view on September 11th

This is a long video so if you like you can skip to the 1 hour 14 minutes and 15 second mark when Dimitri (former officer of nuclear Soviet Intelligence according to him) gets down to the nitty gritty of his explanation of what happened on Sept 11th.. that being a thermo-nuclear device was set off 77 meters below the earth's surface and 50 meters below the base of the World Trade Centers. 

He says that before the World Trade Centers were built the regulations stated that the builders had to submit a demolition plan as was required and that the World Trade Center planners did have thermo-nuclear devices put in underground as the demolition plan before the Towers were built, that in Russia they knew of this because this information had to be submitted as part of a Treaty with Russia as regards to thermo nuclear devices/bombs used for possible demolition and other purposes. He says that there is also a thermo-nuclear demolition device or bomb below the Sears Tower in Chicago.

I don't agree with some of his conclusions as he says were told to him by the FBI, for example that the U.S. Government had to bring the Towers down because they had reason to believe that there were atmospheric nuclear bombs in the Towers themselves which if they went off would have killed millions so they had to do this, to pull the Towers 'for the greater good'. There are too many reasons for them to have wanted to pull off this 'new Pearl Harbour' as referred to in the 'Project for a New American Century', also there was Mossad/Israeli/Jewish involvement in 911 up to the high heavens.

His explanations as to what technically happened on that day do seem to make a lot of sense though as well as his explanation concerning the missile that hit the Pentagon. I have not watched the next part concerning Building 7 but am about to.

Meaning of the term Ground Zero pre September 11th: 

Ground Zero - a point on the surface of land or water at or directly above or below the center of a nuclear explosion.

Collins English Dictionary, Major New Edition (Third Edition 1991, ISBN 0 00 433286-5) 

"ground zero" - the point on the ground vertically beneath or above the point of detonation of an atomic or thermo-nuclear bomb.

The International Webster's Comprehensive Dictionary of the English Language (Deluxe Encyclopedia Edition 1999, ISBN 1-888777796).
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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 25 Oct 2014 12:23 #70

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....detonation of a 150 kiloton thermo-nuclear charge buried sufficiently deep in granite rock would result in creation of a cavity measuring roughly 100 meters in diameter - such as the one shown in this picture:



All skyscrapers have their lowest foundations lying 20-30 meters beneath the Earth surface. So, it is possible to calculate a position of a "zero-box" under such a skyscraper in such a way that a nuclear explosion would produce a cavity upper end of which would not reach the Earth surface, but would reach only the lowest underground foundation of a skyscraper it intends to demolish.

For example, in particular cases of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, their lowest underground foundations were 27 meters beneath the surface. While the 150 kiloton thermo-nuclear demolition charges were positioned as depths of 77 meters (measuring from the surface), or 50 meters below their underground foundations. Such a thermo-nuclear explosion at a depth of 77 m would create an extremely overheated cavity with its upper sphere touching the lowest underground foundations of the Twin Tower it intends to demolish. But it would still be short of reaching the Earth surface by 27 meters - so surrounding structures would not to be affected by any destructive factors of this underground nuclear explosion (except by, possibly, only its radioactive contamination). The Tower that is to be demolished supposes to lose its foundations completely, and to be sucked-in into this overheated cavity, temperatures inside of which are deemed enough to melt the entire Tower. Nuclear demolition schemes of the WTC building # 7 and that of the Sears Tower in Chicago were calculated in the same way.

However, there is one more factor that is to be taken into consideration during calculation of nuclear demolition projects of skyscrapers. This is about the actual evaporated granite rock inside the cavity. Where all that former granite rock now in gaseous state supposes to go from the cavity? In fact, a picture of the physical events after an underground nuclear explosion is quite interesting. Let's consider it.

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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 25 Oct 2014 12:33 #71

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Interesting stuff... and it fits with Larry's we decided to pull it comment too.
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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 25 Oct 2014 13:19 #72

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Some people might wonder - why the WTC-7 collapsed to its footprint very neatly, in its entirety, while either of the Twin Towers crushed down scattering not only dust, but even some debris to quite large distances. This question is very easy to answer - you have to look at the distribution of "crushed" and "damaged" zones along the Twin Towers structures and the answer will become obvious.

The picture below represents an approximate distribution of damages in case of a nuclear demolition of a skyscraper using a 150 kiloton thermo-nuclear charge positioned 50 meters deeper than the lowest underground foundations of a skyscraper. Don't forget, that demolition charges in this particular case were buried not "ideally deep", that is why forms of the "crushed" and "damaged" zones were not "ideally round" either - they were elliptic, with their sharper ends facing upwards - towards areas of the least resistance.



This particular distribution of damages along the skyscrapers structures inflicted by such a process could be better understood when you watch videos showing details of collapses of the WTC Twin Towers and the WTC-7. You can click the "Videos" button at the top panel of this page to watch these videos.

It should be added also that despite an apparent insufficiency of 150 kiloton thermo-nuclear charges to pulverize the tallest skyscrapers in their entirety, charges of higher yields could not be used in nuclear demolition industry due to merely legal reasons. The problem is that in accordance with the USA - Soviet so-called " Peaceful Nuclear Explosions Treaty of 1976" yield of nuclear munitions used for non-military purposes was limited to 150 kiloton /per individual nuclear explosion and to maximum of 1.5 megaton aggregate yield for group explosions. So, the nuclear demolition industry has to fit into these legal frames: in case of the WTC demolition it was possible to use as many charges as necessary, but not in excess of 150 kiloton per charge. That is why the WTC nuclear demolition scheme consisted of three of such charges - with aggregate yield of 450 kiloton. For those people who have difficulty to imagine how powerful 150 kiloton is, it could be reminded that an atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945 was less than 20 kiloton.

As it was mentioned in the beginning, this article does not describe any nuclear demolition scheme of a particular building in any exact detail, but does it rather on a conceptual level. But there is another article that describes a nuclear demolition scheme of the World Trade Center in New York in particular. It is available here: www.wtcnucleardemolition.com

www.nuclear-demolition.com/wtc-d ... ideos.html

WTC North Tower collapse - It is important to notice that the Tower was visibly shaking before its top started to crash down. You will most likely fail to notice the shaking at the first glance. You have to try to replay this video several times and try to lock your eyes on the Tower - simply disregard any details, except the shaking and you will notice it, at last. This shaking was caused by an earthquake measuring ~ 5.7 on Richter scale. That happened because of an underground thermo-nuclear explosion of 150 kiloton in TNT yield beneath the Tower. In the next couple of seconds the Tower structure was completely pulverized - in the same pattern as shown on the drawing to the right. So in the next moment the heavy undamaged top of the Tower began to crash down, because under it was nothing but a pile of complete dust with only some few fragments in the thin intermediate zone.



WTC-2 (the South Tower) collapse following its nuclear demolition. Please, try to remember how thick were those double-walled steel perimeter- and core columns that constituted its bearing structure. It looks strange that such a rigid structure collapses at near a speed of free fall. But it happens simply because of that fine microscopic dust which represented almost 75 % of the entire Tower structure after an underground nuclear explosion. It is very interesting to notice that an actual pattern of the South Tower collapse corresponded to the distribution of damages shown at the drawing to the right.



South Tower Collapse


Tower 7 Collapse
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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 26 Oct 2014 01:06 #73

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The Power of Imagery

Television is - and has always been - a Weapon of Mass Distraction.
The power of TV-imagery was the driving force behind the 9/11 deception.

Whenever a major news event is reported by the mainstream media, it will invariably be illustrated with photographs or videos in order to convey to the public some visual impressions of the event. Undeniably, the imagery connected with any given news story enhances our emotional relation to it. The way we relate to news imagery has an almost hypnotic effect on our psyche: we have come to consider the visuals of any given news story as proof of that news story’s authenticity. This is truly a ‘weak spot’ of our brains’ readiness for critical-thinking. Thus follows, unfortunately, that to challenge the authenticity of a catastrophic event shown on Live TV is way beyond what most people are willing to contemplate. However, the time has come for everyone to call television by its most appropriate, military-sounding name: "Weapon of Mass Distraction".
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The 9/11 psyop relied foremostly on that ‘weak spot’ of ours. We all fell for the images we saw on TV at the time – understandably so, as the sheer horror of the proposed imagery generated a wall of outrage and fear – thick enough to discourage any critical review of it. In hindsight, we can only wonder why so few questioned the absurd TV coverage proposed by all the major networks. The picture at left shows a moment (at 8:59AM) of the four synchronized TV broadcasts of ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX: yet another indication that the 9/11 TV "LIVE" broadcasts were managed by one single, centralized studio. (see my audio analysis in September Clues E)

WHAT TELEVISION VIEWERS SAW ON 9/11
The 9/11 TV imagery (of the crucial morning events) was just a computer-animated, pre-fabricated movie. It featured for the most part what were meant to be “chopper shots” of the smoking towers - and very little else. The sum total of “Action Shots” (“Planecrash” and “Tower collapses”) amounted to little over 30secs of the entire morning's TV broadcasts ! Needless to say, much as the rest of the animation movie, none of these “Action Shots” depicted any sort of reality. Now, it may be difficult for many to understand why the 9/11 plotters needed to fake even the tower collapses; yet this was undoubtedly the most crucial aspect of the entire operation - and needs to be fully understood in its plain logic: The unprecedented WTC demolition job was far too risky an affair to be shown on LIVE TV - (or to let any amateur cameraman capture it on film). The 9/11 conspirators had no intention whatsoever to offer such a "pyrotechnical" spectacle to world scrutiny - just imagine how unspeakably foolish this would have been. Thus, in all probability, the oldest trick in the manuals of covert military ops was used: smokescreens. More recent technology deactivated temporarily all cameras within sight of the area. In reality, the towers were most likely enveloped in thick smoke (military obscurants) as they collapsed - and no real footage exists of that brief event. Thankfully - for all normal people of this world - the 9/11 planners hired a poorly skilled animation crew : in their efforts to simulate reality, their crass 'artistry' and countless mistakes provide ample and repeatable proof of the trickery - forever engraved in the TV archives.

These images are an intolerable insult to human intelligence :
A REAL PLANE CRASH ?

See:
http://www.septemberclues.info/wtc_airplanes.shtml 

A REAL SKYSCRAPER COLLAPSE ?

See:
http://www.septemberclues.info/wtc_collapses.shtml 


WHY FAKE THE NEWS BROADCASTS ? The 9/11 TV broadcasts were designed to ‘sell’ a fictitious terror attack to the world– by replacing the real-life events of the day (the WTC demolitions) with fake imagery. The official story was quite surreal - as were the TV images of the day and the preposterous tale of 19 kids roundly outfoxing the US Air Defense. It is essential to judge with one's own eyes the broadcasts actually aired by ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC and CNN.
http://www.septemberclues.info/power_of_imagery.shtml 

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Have there been certain buildings that were pre-built to be able to be demolished via thermo-nuclear devices below the earth's surface that potentially can be used to serve a greater agenda. I do know that I would not want to be working in or living very close to the Sears Building in Chicago.

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September 11 - The 9/11 Thread 10 Nov 2014 20:00 #75

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The Atzmon connection - its true

heard a few days ago on one of the numerous shows I have on, that a relative of Gilad atzmon was involved in the security at Boston Airport on 911. Cannot remember which show it was

Here is a brief article confirming that

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Gilad Atzmon Confirms Shaul Eisenberg Connection to ICTS
November 6, 2014

By Christopher Bollyn

Gilad Atzmon, the author of The Wandering Who?, is related to the convicted Likudnik criminal Menachem Atzmon of ICTS, who ran airport security at Boston on 9-11. ICTS was one of the key defendants in the 9-11 tort litigation. In a recent email exchange Gilad wrote: “Menachem was front man for Shaul Eisenberg for years.”

“One may be left perplexed on learning that just three years after the liberation of Auschwitz (1945) the newly-formed Jewish state ethnically cleansed the vast majority of the indigenous population of Palestine (1948). Just five years after the end of World War Two, the Jewish state brought to life racially-discriminatory return laws in order to prevent the 1948 Palestinian refugees from coming back to their cities, villages, fields and orchards. These laws, still in place today, were not categorically different from the notorious Nazi Nuremberg Laws.”
Gilad Atzmon, The Wandering Who? (2011)

I just finished reading Gilad Atzmon’s book The Wandering Who? Quite by chance, our paths crossed recently in Portland and I had the chance to talk to Atzmon and get a copy of his book. I consider The Wandering Who? to be one of the essential books of our time because it provides an excellent critical analysis of the Zionist state of Israel, written by someone who was born and raised in that state.

People who support Israel because they think it is the right thing to do should re-read the extract above from Atzmon’s book and ask themselves if they really understand the nature of the Zionist state. Why, for example, does the U.S. government support Israel’s racially-discriminatory laws and practices, which, as Atzmon notes, are “not categorically different” from those of Nazi Germany?

When I had the chance to talk to Atzmon, I asked him if he was related to Menachem Atzmon, one of the heads of the Israeli company, International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS), which was the key defendant in the 9-11 tort litigation. ICTS is the parent company of Huntleigh USA, the company that was responsible for passenger screening operations at Boston’s Logan Airport on 9-11. Without hesitation, Gilad affirmed that he was indeed related to Menachem Atzmon of ICTS. It seems that his father and Menachem Atzmon are cousins.

In a recent exchange of emails, Gilad has also confirmed that Menachem Atzmon was working with Shaul Eisenberg – a senior Israeli Mossad operative who had tried to get the security contract for the World Trade Center in 1987. This bolsters our understanding of the Israeli faction behind the false-flag terror attacks of 9-11.

Here are the essential parts of my exchange with Gilad:

Bollyn: You are unique, being an outspoken critic of Israel, and, at the same time being related to the key defendant in the 9-11 tort litigation – Menachem Atzmon of ICTS. This is huge. Your extended family is tied into the crime of the century. If you and your Dad are talking you should ask him to talk to his cousin Menachem and get the low-down on what really happened on 9-11.

Atzmon: Brother, believe it or not… when I mention Menachem Atzmon to my mother and father… they were not even aware of his role, but I guess that they weren’t surprised either… Menachem was front man for Shaul Eisenberg for years; he had his fingers in a lot of crap, I guess, I don’t think that I’ve ever met him, only his brother who was a guided missile engineer …

Bollyn: When you wrote: “Menachem was front man for Shaul Eisenberg for years…” That makes complete sense.

Eisenberg was the guy who tried to get the security contract for the World Trade Center (Atwell Security of Tel Aviv for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey) in the 1980s – with veteran Mossadniks Avraham “Shalom” Bendor and Zvi Malkin as his front men. These guys worked closely with Rafi Eitan and Isser Harel. Harel, of course, was the Mossad chief who predicted in 1979 that Arabs would attack the tallest building in New York City. What prescience!

Thanks for the comment.

Atzmon: For sure. I thought you knew MA was with Eisenberg…

Bollyn: No. How should I know? I had not found that in the news reports. I will look into it though.

Atzmon: Good one. I think that this is where he made his wealth initially.
This brief exchange of emails confirms what I thought about Shaul Eisenberg being a key player in the setting-up of the false-flag terrorism of 9-11. The following extract is from my article, “Behind Closed Doors: Israelis Dismissed from 9/11 Trial” of June 2011:

BETAR – THE SHANGHAI CONNECTION AT ICTS

Matthew Albert Nissim was clearly a key elder partner for the Harel brothers at ICTS and before. He had been Co-Managing Director of Leedan International Holdings and served as President of ICTS-USA (1994) Inc. since January 1994. He was also Secretary of ICTS International since January 1994. From 1994 to 1995, he served as Managing Director of ICTS International B.V. Nissim served as President of Harel & Partners from 1991 to 1994. He has also a Director with them of Pioneer Commercial Funding Corp. since September 25, 1997. He served as a Director of ICTS International NV and also served as its Member of the Supervisory Board from 2002 to December 6, 2006.

Nissim is not just an older partner with the Harel brothers, he is one of the key players in the 9/11 false-flag terrorism with other members of the Betar (Zionist militia) from China. Shaul Eisenberg, Mossad’s mega-agent in China and Japan, was also involved with the Betar brigades in China in the 1930s and 40s. Eisenberg is the smoking gun between these Betar Likudniks from China and 9/11. Eisenberg owned Atwell, a Mossad company that tried to get the security contract for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (World Trade Center, airports, harbors, tunnels, etc.) in 1987. Rafi Eitan, Shalom Bendor, and Zvi Malkin were involved in this attempt to obtain the security contract for the World Trade Center. Ehud Olmert’s father and uncle were founding members of the Betar brigades in Harbin and Shanghai, China. Matthew Albert Nissim of ICTS was born in Shanghai. The fact that at least three architectural level players in the 9/11 attacks came from the Zionist communities of China suggests that this may be a key link between the masters of terrorism. For more on the Mossadniks who controlled security at the World Trade Center see The Architecture of Terror: Mapping the Network Behind 9-11.


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Dubya (almost) slip of the tongue, "Boston bombing was another conspiracy" (like 9/11).

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He makes a slip of the tongue and she sticks out her lizard tongue right after that.
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Rodin do you believe in the no plane theory?

Makes more sense than any official bullshit.

You have to consider equal and opposite reaction. Plane hitting building at 500MPH = building hitting plane @ 500 MPH

Planes hit the Towers and people died.

My childhood friend died in the pentagon, and a friend from school died in the towers.

As for who set 9/11 up that's where the conspiracy is...

My BEng Hons is from Brunel. My MEng is from Imperial. The two planes did not level the 3 buildings.

As to who also blew up the buildings, that's where the conspiracy is.

I don't like talking about 911. The fucking scientific and engineering cluelessness of the masses just gets on my tits. I don't go near 911 these days. I do a George Carlin on 911. Fuck it. Fuck them. Bollox to your 'friend' and the way you use him to make a point.
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