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TOPIC: Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Charlie Hebdo Double Standards

Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 30 Mar 2014 17:01 #1

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Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 01 Apr 2014 12:46 #3

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Une belle quenelle épaulée aux sionistes :D
Ils sont "nuts", les sionistes!





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Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 01 Apr 2014 15:08 #4

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What exactly is your problem with anti-Zionists, jonb?
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Firstly, I am not anybody else, you could do some research into that, but I notice you rather jump to conclusions than think and check.
My problem with anti Zionists, I have none being one myself. What I have a problem with are people who seem unable to tell individuals apart, which neatly brings us back to the first point.
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jonb wrote:
Firstly, I am not anybody else, you could do some research into that, but I notice you rather jump to conclusions than think and check.
My problem with anti Zionists, I have none being one myself. What I have a problem with are people who seem unable to tell individuals apart, which neatly brings us back to the first point.

Typing mistake. I had just been reading a bit on the other forum and came across Pheony's comment to this johnfb's lip service, my fingers seem to have done what I was having on my mind in this moment. Corrected. Sorry if this offended you.
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"Dieudonné was a friend, now he has become a brother! The court [FA disciplinary hearing] asked if he was my friend, I said: 'Yes, of course.' He is a comedian, not a politician. He remains for me the best in France. It was not easy to support someone who was public enemy No 1."





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Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 24 May 2014 11:00 #11

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'First European Congress of Dissent'



Prohibited by Anderlecht mayor Eric Tomas


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"Organiser Laurent Lois, a member of the lower house of Belgium's parliament, has rejected claims that the congress is anti-semitic, and urged people to come to the venue, where a "surprise" was planned."

"Diedonne (sic), who has convictions for hate speech in France, was scheduled to attend the 'First European Congress of Dissent', as it was billed by organisers."

"His controversial quenelle gesture, which was adopted by footballer Nicolas Anelka, has been described as a reverse Nazi salute by anti-racism campaigners and condemned for its anti-Semitic connotations by England's football association."

"His controversial quenelle gesture, which was adopted by footballer Nicolas Anelka, has been described as a reverse Nazi salute by anti-racism campaigners and condemned for its anti-Semitic connotations by England's football association."

"The Belgian League Against Anti-Semitism, or LBCA, on Friday filed a complaint with the Brussels prosecutor against the event, saying that it would be "a day of hate, that would serve as a platform for the worst gathering of anti-Semite authors, theorists and propagandists that our country has seen since the end of World War II".

"In January, Lois' claim that the Holocaust was bankrolled by Zionists was condemned by Belgium's president."

"Writing on his Facebook page, Lois said it was absurd that his movement "Debout Les Belges!" (Stand up, Belgians!) was regarded as anti-semitic because members had adopted the quenelle salute."






www.lemonde.fr/europeennes-2014/article/2014/05/04/belgique-un-congres-controverse-de-dieudonne-et-alain-soral-interdit_4411297_4350146.html
www.ibtimes.co.uk/anti-semitic-congress-featuring-quenelle-comedian-dieudonne-banned-by-belgian-mayor-1447239
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Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 06 Jun 2014 19:44 #12

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Soral, Dieudonné and Atzmon



Monday, June 2, 2014 at 12:50AM by Gilad Atzmon




Alimuddin Usmani interviews Gilad Atzmon

Alimuddin Usmani: Despite its portrayal as racist and anti-Semitic by some French politicians and the mainstream media your Lyon conference with Alain Soral on May 26th was a huge success. Six hundred peaceful people attended the event. Tell us something about your impressions of this gathering.

Gilad Atzmon: Most of all, I was overwhelmed by the demography in the room. As I mentioned that evening, I have never witnessed such a diverse crowd. I guess that 30% of the people in the room were immigrants who see Soral and Egalitarian Reconciliation as the path to true Frenchness. So while the Left talks about ‘diversity’ and ‘tolerance,’ in spite of being predominantly white and totally detached from the lower classes. In the real world, it is Soral who is able to translate diversity into a popular awareness on both social and political level.


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Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 06 Jun 2014 20:02 #13

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I Love Dieudonné!



Friday, May 9, 2014 at 5:06PM by Gilad Atzmon






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Dieudonné - La Quenelle - Chaud Ananas 18 Jun 2014 12:00 #14

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“To smile when confronted with the most severe oppression,
is an act of Resistance rooted in unparalleled beauty.”


~ Jonathan Azaziah ~




"Dieudonné understands
that the concept of
cross-communal,
multi-ethnic solidarity
is key to overthrowing
Zionism."



Full article: www.maskofzion.com/2014/02/anti-zionist-wit-vs-chosen-gutterisms.html
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La roc boyz Quenelle? :think:



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The French paradox and the Dieudonne affair

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Last updated: 24 May 2014

Media hounding of Franco-Cameroonian comedian raises questions about 'limitations' on freedom of speech.

When the controversial French satirist Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala was recently asked why his humour was shocking, his answer was: "I find it surprising that some blame me for shocking people. This is my job, a humourist shocks, a humourist bothers."

The controversy over Dieudonne may have reached a pitch in French mainstream media earlier this year after his show "Le Mur" (The Wall) was banned by an administrative decision. But an intense debate has been raging for years over the sanctity of freedom of expression and whether or not it should transcend ethnic, religious and cultural consideration.

For many of his detractors, the Franco-Cameroonian comedian is viewed as an "anti-semite" and "a danger to society" for what they believe is his "incitement of racial hate".

For his fans, Dieudonne is an "anti-establishment" figure, and the campaign to silence him is seen as an attempt to limit free speech.

The bigger question, however, in the case of Dieudonne, is whether or not the space for dissent has shrunk in France when a satirist is chided for questioning the country's colonial past, speaking out against establishment or discussing taboo topics such as the Holocaust.

'The axis of good'

Dieudonne won a strong following back in 2003 while performing a controversial sketch on public television channel France 3, caricaturing an extremist Jewish settler calling to join "the axis of good" (as opposed to the infamous term "axis of evil"). He ended his sketch with the word "IsraHeil". Soon after, Dieudonne was accused of being an anti-Semite and was ostracised from the media landscape.

Meanwhile, a public debate was initiated on the limits of freedom of expression and whether or not issues deemed sensitive by French elite standards could be discussed or criticised. After some ups and downs, Dieudonne grew to be more explicit about his political views and presented himself as "anti-Zionist" and "anti-establishment".

This, however, was not without a price. He was physically attacked and some of his shows were interrupted by protests organised by Jewish organisations such as the UEJF (Union des Etudiants Juifs de France). Towards the end of 2007, the Paris Court of Appeal sentenced Dieudonne for "anti-semitic" remarks after he described Jews as "slave traders" (Negriers) in an interview with Journal-Du-Dimanche newspaper in February 2004.

Despite his controversial stands, Dieudonne maintains a notable following of a very heterogeneous composition, as once described by the French weekly magazine Le Point: "Young shaved headed, North  Africans, young preppy girls or 'soixante-huitards' [referring to 1968 French social protest movement] and even some 'Bonnet Rouges'... Dieudonne's fans form a cohesive mosaic united by their rejection of elites."

Dieudonne has also repeatedly made references in his shows to what he describes as the special treatment reserved in French media to the Jewish victims of the Holocaust during World War II, and how the popular concept of "crime against humanity" does not seem to recognise other peoples' suffering, such as the black victims of slavery or the indigenous populations of the Americas.

Stretching this a bit further, he hosted on stage the controversial historian Robert Faurisson (politically classified as revisionist). Such a move hardened the critics' position and fresh accusations of anti-semitism were levelled against him.

The situation was further complicated when Dieudonne initiated a gesture called "la quenelle" (which is a flattened hand pointed in direction of the ground) presenting it as an anti-establishment symbol, but organisations such as the Conseil Represntatif des Institutions Juives de France (CRIF) claimed it was an "inverted Nazi salute". 

Establishment hits back

The tense debate reached a climax earlier this year when in January 2014, the Council of State, the highest  administrative court in France, banned Dieudonne's show "Le Mur" after a request was submitted by the then Interior Minister Manuel Valls.

Valls pledged to "set limits" to Dieudonne by banning his shows. The interior minister's initiative received President Francois Hollande's full support.

An opinion poll issued in January 2014 showed that only 38 percent among French population support the principle of banning Dieudonne's shows, while during that same period a drop by 7 points occured in Manuel Valls's popularity (from 60 percent to 53 percent).

Meanwhile, momentum was gaining ground on social media outlets in support of Dieudonne against the establishment. Public figures expressed their support to the humourist such as the jazz musician Gilad Atzmon and the writer Jacob Cohen who aired a youtube interview where he was seen performing the "quenelle" gesture in support of the comedian. Dieudonne's youtube videos, in which he periodically comments on current events, are watched by millions of viewers.

A French paradox

Eight years ago, the French satirical weekly magazine Charlie Hebdo, in a gesture of solidarity with the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten, decided to republish the offensive cartoons of Prophet Mohammad, in defiance of the French Muslim community's indignation and protests. The magazine then received unanimous support from the French establishment, mainstream media and intellectual elite from across the spectrum expressing solidarity with the magazine on behalf of the sacred right to freedom of expression.

Today, that same elite is attacking Dieudonne for the exact same values it claimed to be defending during the  Charlie Hebdo affair. But they fail to realise that while a political humourist might want to prove an ideological point through satire, that form of entertainment remains among the most effective tools to engage an apathetic public and to address issues that are deemed sensitive.

That said, the question then is not so much about whether we approve or disapprove of Dieudonne's discourse, rather it is how France can remain faithful to its own principles of "freedom, equality and fraternity" when in one case, the republic and its intellectual elite stand in unison to defend freedom of expression, while in Dieudonne's case, they appear more willing to compromise that freedom - perhaps even to redefine its contours.

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Mario Herrera January 15, 2015 @ 12:12 am


It is about time to start a magazine exposing the JEWS in cartoons… “Holocaust Cartoon Magazine”, “Hollotoone”, or something like that.

It’s Ok to mock other peoples religions like Mohammad, Jesus and so on–but not Judaism, Holocaust, etc. Double standard!

Yesterday was arrested in Paris, humorist Dieudonné M’bala… just because he stated that he feels like Charlie Couilibaly.

“Dieudonné arrested over Facebook post on Paris gunman”

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/dieudonne-arrest-facebook-post-charlie-coulibaly-paris-gunman

Interview double standard Charlie Hebdo vs Dieudonné, France TV2 (English subtitles).








Source: www.realjewnews.com/?p=997#comment-1691746


More breaking news to come asap ..........


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Must watch-Jon Stewart on French Hypocrisy

And Our Most Beloved Dieudonne



January 16, 2015 / Gilad Atzmon


Jon Stewart brilliantly mocks the anti social tyranny performed by the
pathetic Francois Hollande and his Jerusalem 'socialist' government.











Why Is Charlie Hebdo OK, But Not Dieudonne?

FRENCH HYPOCRISY



January 15, 2015 / Gilad Atzmon






Is France selective about which speech they allow and which to censor?
Find out with TV presenter Hassan Alkatib and political expert Hafsa Kara-Mustapha
as they discuss how the French Comedian Dieudonne is being censored by the French authoritie

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