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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 14 Aug 2014 18:44 #1

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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character

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AMSTERDAM — The Netherlands’ controversial holiday character Black Pete might soon become Sooty Pete — but gradually.

The mayor of Amsterdam said Thursday that Black Pete, or Zwarte Piet, who features in the city’s winter holiday pageant, would change in appearance over the next four years to make him less of an offensive racial stereotype.

According to the mayor, Eberhard van der Laan, the gradual transformation began in last year’s official city parade, when Pete stopped wearing golden earrings, and would continue until the popular character eventually resembles someone who has climbed through a chimney rather than an exaggerated caricature of an African.

“Black Pete can look different,” said an Amsterdam city spokesperson.

In the annual Sinterklaas (Santa Claus) parade, held on Dec. 5, St. Nicholas, newly arrived by boat from Spain, enters the city on horseback accompanied by Black Pete, his Moorish servant, who walks alongside distributing candy and treats.

Children and adults have portrayed Black Pete by wearing blackface makeup, painting on big red lips and donning frizzy black wigs.

Dutch and foreign critics, who have become increasingly vocal about the character in recent years, say Black Pete is an offensive holdover from colonialism and slavery. Opinion polls, however, show that a majority of Dutch see nothing wrong with the depiction.

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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character

Source: http://www.nytimes.com
AMSTERDAM — The Netherlands’ controversial holiday character Black Pete might soon become Sooty Pete — but gradually.

The mayor of Amsterdam said Thursday that Black Pete, or Zwarte Piet, who features in the city’s winter holiday pageant, would change in appearance over the next four years to make him less of an offensive racial stereotype.

According to the mayor, Eberhard van der Laan, the gradual transformation began in last year’s official city parade, when Pete stopped wearing golden earrings, and would continue until the popular character eventually resembles someone who has climbed through a chimney rather than an exaggerated caricature of an African.

“Black Pete can look different,” said an Amsterdam city spokesperson.

In the annual Sinterklaas (Santa Claus) parade, held on Dec. 5, St. Nicholas, newly arrived by boat from Spain, enters the city on horseback accompanied by Black Pete, his Moorish servant, who walks alongside distributing candy and treats.

Children and adults have portrayed Black Pete by wearing blackface makeup, painting on big red lips and donning frizzy black wigs.

Dutch and foreign critics, who have become increasingly vocal about the character in recent years, say Black Pete is an offensive holdover from colonialism and slavery. Opinion polls, however, show that a majority of Dutch see nothing wrong with the depiction.

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I still have nightmares when they put me on Sint Nicolaas his lap :O
And what the hell is a bisshop of the Turkish town of Mira doing in Holland?!
Anyways,Sinterklaas is OUR Dutch national cultural festival;kids have no intent to be racists
they just see Black Pete as a goofy guy who makes jokes and brings presents.
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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 14 Aug 2014 20:05 #3

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Unfortunately the minds of politically correct political morons can't make rational and logical decisions bases on evidence and facts. They can only facilitate the implementation of the social and cultural changes dictated to them by their puppet masters. Their masters were the ones who coined the term racist in order to exploit it and use it as a social and political weapon against all races.

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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 14 Aug 2014 20:07 #4

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Amsterdam was and still is basically Jewish.
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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 14 Aug 2014 20:22 #5

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Amsterdam... Loved it in the 80's
Not now tho, went back a few years ago....
Cameras everywhere and a very bad vibe, not my cup of tea now, too 'hip' and expensive to say the least
Only went there for the smoke WAS the best at the time but not no more
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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 14 Aug 2014 20:26 #6

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Thinking about it none of the resident black people looked very happy but maybe that was just the places I went to?
The Old Church was nice and still is :)
I found there are still dudes wondering around pushing drugs, poor sods does anyone buy off them i wonder
Looked like a lot of the places are run by Turkish people but wot do I know...
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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 15 Aug 2014 00:27 #7

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Written by Jacques Brel - Performed by David Bowie



In the port of Amsterdam
There's a sailor who sings
Of the dreams that he brings
From the wide open sea
In the port of Amsterdam
There's a sailor who sleeps
While the river bank weeps
To the old willow tree

In the port of Amsterdam
There's a sailor who dies
Full of beer, full of cries
In a drunken town fight
In the port of Amsterdam
There's a sailor who's born
On a hot muggy morn
By the dawn's early light

In the port of Amsterdam
Where the sailors all meet
There's a sailor who eats
Only fish heads and tails
And he'll show you his teeth
That have rotted too soon
That can haul up the sails
That can swallow the moon

And he yells to the cook
With his arms open wide
"Hey, bring me more fish
Throw it down by my side"
And he wants so to belch
But he's too full to try
So he stands up and laughs
And he zips up his fly


In the port of Amsterdam
You can see sailors dance
Paunches bursting their pants
Grinding women to porch
They've forgotten the tune
That their whiskey voice croaked
Splitting the night
With the roar of their jokes
And they turn and they dance
And they laugh and they lust
Till the rancid sound of the accordion bursts
And then out of the night
With their pride in their pants
And the sluts that they tow
Underneath the street lamps

In the port of Amsterdam
There's a sailor who drinks
And he drinks and he drinks
And he drinks once again
He'll drink to the health
Of the whores of Amsterdam
Who've given their bodies
To a thousand other men
Yeah, they've bargained their virtue
Their goodness all gone
For a few dirty coins
Well he just can't go on
Throws his nose to the sky
And he aims it up above
And he pisses like I cry
On the unfaithful love

In the port of Amsterdam
In the port of Amsterdam


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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 15 Aug 2014 00:42 #8

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Frog wrote:
According to the mayor, Eberhard van der Laan, the gradual transformation began in last year’s official city parade, when Pete stopped wearing golden earrings, and would continue until the popular character eventually resembles someone who has climbed through a chimney rather than an exaggerated caricature of an African.

This :arowup: be funny.

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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 15 Aug 2014 10:45 #9

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Amsterdam was and still is basically Jewish.

Amsterdam has a population of 810,084 inhabitants within city limits.
On 1 January 2012, the ethnic makeup of Amsterdam was 49.5% of Dutch ancestry
and 50.5% of foreign origin.[citation needed] In the 16th and 17th century non-Dutch
immigrants to Amsterdam were mostly Huguenots, Flemings, Sephardi Jews and
Westphalians. Huguenots came after the Edict of Fontainebleau in 1685, while the
Flemish Protestants came during the Eighty Years' War. The Westphalians came
to Amsterdam mostly for economic reasons – their influx continued through the
18th and 19th centuries. Before the Second World War, 10% of the city population
was Jewish. Just twenty percent of them survived the Shoah.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam

Amsterdam has historically been the center of the Dutch Jewish community, and
has had a continuing Jewish community for the last 370 years.[1] Amsterdam is
also known under the name "Mokum", given to the city by its Jewish inhabitants
("Mokum" is Yiddish for "town", derived from the Hebrew "makom", which literally
means "place"). Although the Holocaust deeply affected the Jewish community,
killing some 80% of the some 80,000 Jews at time present in Amsterdam, since
then the community has managed to rebuild a vibrant and living Jewish life for its
approximately 15,000 present members.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Amsterdam

Dutch Jews came out of hiding and returned from concentration camps in the east
to find their communities decimated. Only approximately 21,600 of the 140,000
Dutch Jews before the war survived. Only 4,500 returned from the camps of those
107,000 deported. Of the approximately 35,000 sent to Sobibor, 19 people survived.
Of the approximately 60,000 sent to Auschwitz, 500 survived. Overall, approximately
three out of every four Dutch Jews were killed in the Holocaust.
These Jews returned to a fairly unsympathetic country. Most of the Dutch populace
had suffered during the war, particularly during the hongerwinter, and most were eager
to move on with rebuilding the country. Technical problems in trying to reclaim property
also plagued those trying to rebuild their lives. There were struggles over Jewish orphans
who were hidden by non-Jews during the war. Finally, anti-Semitism, barely apparent
before the war but furthered by Nazi policies of separating Jews from society, was more
commonplace than ever in Dutch society.
Due to all these problems, most Dutch survivors emigrated after liberation.
Most emigrants left for the United States or Palestine, later Israel.
The Dutch government had strict immigration laws due to a housing shortage in the Netherlands,
and thus very few displaced persons from other European countries came to the
Netherlands after the war. There were an estimated 15,000 Jews who affiliated themselves with a
congregation in the 1950s, while that number shrunk to 9,000 by the end of the 1980s.
Today, there are approximately 40,000 Jews living in the Netherlands, still concentrated in
Amsterdam and other major cities. Jewish communities are eclipsed in importance as a religious
minority group by mostly Muslim immigrants from North Africa, Turkey, and Indonesia.
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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 15 Aug 2014 11:05 #10

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Frog wrote:
Unfortunately the minds of politically correct political morons can't make rational and logical decisions bases on evidence and facts. They can only facilitate the implementation of the social and cultural changes dictated to them by their puppet masters. Their masters were the ones who coined the term racist in order to exploit it and use it as a social and political weapon against all races.

''Come and sit on my lap ''.....
Santa Claus and Sint Nicolaas; both of them are refered to as Saints.
If the kids don't obey or were naughty they either are being put in sack
and shipped to Spain,or they have to eat coal.
Old men with beards wanting kids to sit on their lap.
What is true story about ''Come sit on my lap'' ?

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SINTERKLAAS WAR IN AMSTERDAM



Coudenhove-Kalergi and his reincarnation, Barbara Lerner-Spectre, teach the Dutch how to celebrate!







People line the road to greet Sinterklaas, the Dutch version of Santa Claus, and his "Swarte Piet" (Black Pete) sidekicks in Amsterdam on Nov. 17, 2013. In the past few years, Black Pete has come under fire. Some say it's a beloved tradition that should remain; others say it is a racist stereotype.





Read more kuow.org/post/santas-black-faced-helpers-are-under-fire-netherlands
11 Things www.dutchnews.nl/features/2014/12/11-things-you-need-to-know-about-christmas-in-the-netherlands.php/
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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 19 Dec 2014 20:03 #12

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Old news Putz
Maybe you need some better Hasbara training ; ya ain't gonna win that Hasby
with a thread like this.

Germany also has a similar Nikolausfest .
Legend says that the German Nikolaus was a poor godfearing man,
with no money.
Because he had no money for his three daughters' dowry;he wanted
to sent them into prostitution.
To prevend this,he threw 3 nuggets of gold through the chimney which
ended up in socks that were in front of the fireplace.
By the way Sankt Nikolaus is also patron saint of the prostitutes.
And what about German Krampus the German Christmas devil ?

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Amsterdam Officials Plan Makeover of ‘Black Pete’ Holiday Character 19 Dec 2014 21:53 #13

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If anyone black or white finds "black Pete" or any other of Holland's ancient traditions "offensive" then they should fcuk off somewhere else.

Problem solved. :thumbup:
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Problem is Barbara Lerner Spectre types have promoted multiculturalism such that white dutch will soon be - or already are - a minority in their own country - to blacks from the former dutch slave colonies and Turks.

That then creates these problems.

Living in a country where the native black population was subjected to racial genocide by the colonial masters, I can yell you, nothing like Black Pete would ever take place here.
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If anyone black or white finds "black Pete" or any other of Holland's ancient traditions "offensive" then they should fcuk off somewhere else.

Problem solved. :thumbup:


Concise, straight forward comments are always welcome!
At least from my pov.



If this forum wasn't so much infected with anti-German and outright Germanophobe crap
I would start a thread on traditional German Christmas customs, Christian and Pagan.
Maybe I will do it nonetheless. RAUNÄCHTE.

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If anyone black or white finds "black Pete" or any other of Holland's ancient traditions "offensive" then they should fcuk off somewhere else.

Problem solved. :thumbup:

Yeah
well thats the thing ; strangers ,non native Dutch want to rule my country.
They have a choice to accept it or get the hell out of The Netherlands.
Like you said ''problem solved''
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Racism exists in Australia – are we doing enough to address it?

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If anyone black or white finds "black Pete" or any other of Holland's ancient traditions "offensive" then they should fcuk off somewhere else.

Problem solved. :thumbup:

Yeah
well thats the thing ; strangers ,non native Dutch want to rule my country.
They have a choice to accept it or get the hell out of The Netherlands.
Like you said ''problem solved''

If only it was that simple. In reality we all know that this is all engineered and fuelled by tptb using classic "divide & conquer" techniques. :(
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son_of_parrot wrote:
If anyone black or white finds "black Pete" or any other of Holland's ancient traditions "offensive" then they should fcuk off somewhere else.

Problem solved. :thumbup:

Yeah
well thats the thing ; strangers ,non native Dutch want to rule my country.
They have a choice to accept it or get the hell out of The Netherlands.
Like you said ''problem solved''

If only it was that simple. In reality we all know that this is all engineered and fuelled by tptb using classic "divide & conquer" techniques. :(

Anti BlackPete Protesters caused some riots ; stupid people .
No one ever thought about the small kids that celebrated
the arrival of Sinterklaas and his helpers.
Politics and kids don't mix well.

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Racism exists in Australia – are we doing enough to address it?

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Racism exists everywhere Jewess hasbara troll ... but name another country that mocks black African slaves as dumb helpers?
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