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TOPIC: HUNGARY - Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy Image

JOBBIK 14 Nov 2016 17:20 #61

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Jobbik to submit own constitutional amendment proposal on Monday (today)

Budapest (MTI) – The radical nationalist Jobbik party will submit to parliament its own constitutional amendment proposal on banning the resettlement of foreign nationals in Hungary on Monday.

Jobbik’s proposal is almost identical to the one submitted by Prime Minister Viktor Orbán last month with the exception of a clause that scraps residency bonds, János Volner, the party’s deputy leader, told a press conference on Sunday.

Volner said the ruling Fidesz party had come to a crossroads. They must now decide if they want to “keep clinging to the billions [of forints] they make from the residency bond scheme through offshore companies” or if they put the safety of the Hungarian people first, he insisted.

He said Jobbik had made it clear in the debates about the government-initiated amendment bill that it considered the safety of Hungarians its number one concern. This means the party will not support any “half solutions” proposed by the government, he said.

Volner quoted Jobbik leader Gábor Vona as saying, “Neither poor migrants, nor rich migrants should be allowed to settle in Hungary. Neither poor terrorists, nor rich terrorists should be allowed to come here.”

Fidesz responded in a statement saying that Jobbik’s move to submit a constitutional amendment bill was nothing more than “political machinations”. “It is an embarrassing and late attempt at obscuring the fact that they have failed Hungary.” Fidesz said Jobbik could not be trusted, arguing that they had already once said that they would support amending the constitution to ban the resettlement of foreigners in Hungary, but when the time had come to vote on the government’s bill, they rejected it.

Fidesz deputy leader Gergely Gulyás said that by rejecting the original bill, Jobbik had caused political damage “not just to the country but to itself as well”. Parliament is a “serious body” and it is impossible for it to amend the constitution within 24 hours, Gulyás told public television M1. He added that there was no reason at present for parliament to put Jobbik’s bill on the agenda.

dailynewshungary.com/jobbik-submit-constitutional-amendment-proposal-monday/
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Will Viktor let the bill pass now? Jobbik resubmits the constitutional bill

It was exactly seven months ago, on April 12, 2016 when Jobbik first tried to protect Hungary from the mandatory migrant allocation quota by amending the Constitution. Back then, the party's motion was turned down by 125 traitorous Fidesz MPs in the National Assembly. The patriotic opposition party will now try to convince the Parliamentary majority to come to their senses and resubmit the bill to the House.


"Not obtainable for payment"

According to Hungarian daily Magyar Nemzet, the patriotic opposition party is going to resubmit Viktor Orbán's Constitutional bill, with the addition of a single sentence to it. In order to provide a Constitutional guarantee for the withdrawal of residency bonds traded through offshore companies related to Minister Rogán, Jobbik will complement the text of the bill with a sentence stating that Hungarian residency permits are "not obtainable for payment" by foreign citizens.


Viktor won't let it happen

In the spring of 2016, the government parties did not feel pressed enough to ensure Hungary's Constitutional protection; so much so that György Rubovszky, the Christian Democratic Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee on Justice was actively delaying the procedure to prevent Jobbik's motion from being put on the agenda.

He did so in full knowledge of the fact that his action violated House Rules. Back then, Fidesz' Parliamentary faction leader Lajos Kósa was not quite upset about the delay; he did not call Rubovszky a traitor for threatening Hungary's security for partisan reasons.

Over a month later, while the government was already running its anti-migration campaign on Minister Rogán's neighbour's billboards, the House once again voted on Jobbik's Constitutional bill on May 24. The result was devastating. Voting alongside Ágnes Vadai (Democratic Coalition), Gábor Fodor (Liberals) and Tímea Szabó (Dialogue), 125 Fidesz and Christian Democratic MPs swept the anti-immigration Constitutional bill off the table. Thus likely posing a risk to Hungary's security for partisan reasons.

Since then, we have learnt that dirty money is at least as important for Fidesz as their clinging to power. Consequently, PM Orbán refused to give up the residency bond scheme in return for being able to protect Hungary from all forms of immigration by way of a Constitutional amendment. Will there be 125 government MPs again to block the Constitutional amendment?

jobbik.com/will_viktor_let_the_bill_pass_now_jobbik_resubmits_the_constitutional_bill




JOBBIK CALLS TRUMP AN "UNPREDICTABLE HALFWIT"


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Metapedia is still down: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik



The Latest: EU softens line on refugee quotas

The European Union is signaling it won't take legal action against countries that refuse to share refugees from Greece and Italy as long as the overall target number of people finds new homes.

www.newsbug.info/news/world/the-latest-eu-softens-line-on-refugee-quotas/article_cbd58054-2b2a-5bb5-8857-6654da69155a.html



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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
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only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
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HUNGARY - Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy Image 15 Nov 2016 16:01 #63

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I've noticed that Metapedia has been down for a while now. It was back up briefly a couple of weeks back but it's down again, and has been for some time now on and off.
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Atm it's back again en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jobbik



"Terrorist bonds" here to stay -

Jobbik's constitutional bill remains off Parliament's agenda






The Hungarian National Assembly's Committee on Justice did not put Jobbik's Constitutional bill on its agenda on Monday. Chaired by Christian Democrat MP György Rubovszky, the committee keeps playing for time so Hungary's constitutional protection from immigration is not guaranteed yet.

On Monday, the Parliamentary Committee on Justice had a session where Jobbik MP dr. Gábor Staudt attempted to have the opposition party's Constitutional bill put on the agenda. Eventually, the body decided not to put Jobbik's motion on the agenda with three YEAs (Gábor Staudt, István Apáti – Jobbik; Zoltán Kész – independent) and eight government-party NAYs.


Viktor did not let it happen?

In the brief debate, Mr Staudt argued it was the whole country's best interest to say NO to the "terrorist bonds" adding that it was time for government-party politicians to make a choice between "money or homeland".

Emphasizing that immigration had become the most important issue for the Orbán government in the past one and a half years, István Apáti asked if it was "just a political product like the concept of the civic Hungary?" In his view, if Fidesz turns down Jobbik's bill, "government MPs will be defending spoils which they won't get a dime of," referring to the ties between cabinet minister Antal Rogán and the residency bond scheme.


Not over yet!

We were informed that Jobbik was going to try again and get on the agenda with their motion that would exclude mandatory migrant allocation quotas and the sales of residency permits at the same time. According to the Parliament's resolution, the relevant committee has thirty days to decide whether to put the motion on the agenda. In other words, if partisanship so requires, the process so embarrassing for the government parties may as well last until mid-December, which poses a further risk: the European Union's heads of state and government might be discussing Brussels' mandatory migrant quotas in their 15-16 December summit.

As it is known, Jobbik's Constitutional bill is a verbatim copy of the version submitted by PM Viktor Orbán, except for one additional sentence to unconstitutionalize the residency bond scheme which is associated with offshore companies, tied to Antal Rogán and poses national security risks.

It is also noteworthy how Mr Rubovszky blocked Jobbik's anti-quota motion from being put on the committee's agenda last April, even though he had to violate the House Rules to do so. Just a month later, government MPs voted alongside with ex-PM Gyurcsány's Democratic Coalition, Together Party and the Liberals, thus sweeping off the constitutional protection from immigration in the Parliament's session.


jobbik.com/terrorist_bonds_here_to_stay_jobbiks_constitutional_bill_remains_off_parliaments_agenda
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HUNGARY - Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy Image 13 Nov 2017 10:52 #65

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Just my humble opinion.


In this current system only a "Hungarian" Jw is allowed to criticize/expose a "Hungarian" Jw.


Orban - contrary to his big mouth promises to grant asylum to everybody who flees their European countries because of
too many invaders sent and paid by Soros - extradited Horst Mahler (81) to the (((FRG system))).
truth-zone.net/forum/news-and-current-affairs/69136-horst-mahler-81-will-have-to-go-to-prison-again-for-another-3-5-years.html?start=100#266308


His spouse is Anikó Lévai.


Totally exposed muppet playing "the good goy".

He would be dead since long if he were a real enemy of the (((system))).

Ugye?


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HUNGARY - Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy Image 13 Nov 2017 12:42 #66

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He would be dead since long if he were a real enemy of the (((system))).

So how do you think we can get out of this mess?

Since everyone according to you is either controlled opposition, or marked for certain death if legit.
So we have come together on this day to prove symbolically that we are more than a collection of individuals striving one against another, that none of us is too proud, none of us too high, none is too rich, and none too poor, to stand together before the face of the Lord and of the world in this indissoluble, sworn community. And this united nation, we have need of it.

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HUNGARY - Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy Image 13 Nov 2017 21:02 #67

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He would be dead since long if he were a real enemy of the (((system))).

So how do you think we can get out of this mess?

By channeling the energy of mother Gaia , just like our ancestors did

This fellow below seems to know how to do just that :

''ATTENTION! We are Europe's largest Alt-Right/Nationalist group where Varg Vikernes and his ThuleanPerspective channel has more than 120 000 subscribers and 100 million views. Unlike the weak Americ*nt Chr1stard dominated Alt Right we know the REAL enemy and will fight with a fanatic passion until victory is won or Europe goes down in flames with blood, soil, death, forefathers honour and Ragnarok! We are hard-core atheists, pagans, warlocks and Luciferian Satanists. For hundred of years we have been oppressed by the fûcking chr1stards and what they call civilization, a fûcking concept that is alien for us European from the Aryan north, and came to us from the f*ucking deserts, like the fûcking abrahamic religions did. They are all the same, and if any difference the buy-bull bastards are worse than Muslims (see ThuleanPerspective video: Not Our Fight!). We Aryan European are meant to live in freedom with no bondage and synthetic life in a city/civilization. So we want to smash and destroy everything that has been oppressing us by the chr1stards for nearly 2 000 years. All their filthy things infested with the rotten corpse of christianit will be destroyed!!!! Architecture, so-called art, library houses etc etc. All will go up in flames and from the ashes a new tribal European Aryan Europe will emerge ruled by the god of our forefathers!! Hail SATAN our ALLFATHER of Óðinn and Wōtan!!! All you sheep listening to this channel are f*ucking stupid retards not seeing the world as it is. Varg Vikernes and his channel Thuleanperspective WILL FÛCKING SMASH YOUR MATRIX REAL HARD AND MAKE YOU SEE AND THINK AGAIN!!! UNDERSTAND Why Alt-Right women like Tara McCarthy, Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone etc are F*CKING BLACK WIDOW SPIDERS that will GIVE YOU SOME TRUTH BUT MOSTLY TOXIC AND LETHAL POISON THAT IS F*CKING DANGEROUS!!! Watch his video: Black Propaganda Some fûcking small minded ppl are saying that Varg is just a welfare bum. Well, who the fûck do you know? He says that he and his family is living off his music that is pure genius, and besides he also said in various videos that the point now is TO BE ON WELFARE, so you can just smash the whole fûcking system down and start again!! To see and understand all what we are about, esoteric wisdom and hidden knoledge, WATCH VARG'S EPIC VIDEO: 'ABOUT LARPers' WHERE HE EXPLAINS HOW TO GET WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE THROUGH REINCARNATION, AND HOW TO HARNESS AND USE IT IN TODAYS LIFE AND BATTLE AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS!! MUCH OF HIS SKILLS AND WISDOM ARE SO FÛCKING EPIC AND PROFOUND THAT IT CLEARLY IS SOMETHING HE HAD TO GAIN FROM MANY HARD AND SKILLFUL PREVIOUS LIVES AS WARLOCK AND EPIC MILITARY COMMANDER ARE FROM PREVIOUS LIVES AND WISDOMS REINCARNATED. GO AND FØCKING EDUCATE YOURSELF!!! What one say about people who can start playing in higher levels, because they remember, reminds me of wisdom. The kind of wisdom you have or you have not. Probably because of previous lives. Some cool comment from another pagan: I have been in reenactment for about 7 years. Not only is it fun exercise but it actually teaches you history and teaches you how to fight with melee weapons. I was actually ridiculed (by other pagans) for "LARPing". My response is "You are going to ridicule me for reenacting a life lived by my forebears?" Paganism is about ancestor veneration too this they forget. "In imitating the exemplary acts of a god or of a mythic hero, or simply by recounting their adventures, the man of an archaic society detaches himself from profane time and magically re-enters the Great Time, the sacred time." - Mircea Eliade Not uncommon, we ALL receive memories and visions when we are in an ecstatic mood, when we are excited or inspired, and when we are in certain places, like the forest or even my garden, we feel the deep urge and sexual energy to go forth as our pagan fore bearers and mix blood, sexual energy, dirt, sweat, raw hatred and sexual release in one giant, screaming big ball of hard core exctacy!!! So to speak, best word we can describe it as. WE have none of this in the city or urban areas, but rather we feel rootless, out of place, disoriented. we are sure nearly everyone here can relate and ejaculate. The chr1stards have fooled you for so long time. They wrote the history books. They are ling to you. We are millions in Europe waking up. Go to Thuleanperspective and see what Varg Vikernes has to say. He is using hidden knoweldge and history, that has been given from generation of warlocks to generations. In the dark away form the chr1stards so they would not be killed!! Thats how bad it is!!! Also knowldge from dreams is used. Especially his wife Marie, is used. The knoweldge she got from the Old Ones regarding the evil chr1stards WILL BLOW YOUR MIND!!!! *Hail SATAN our ALLFATHER of Óðinn and Wōtan!!!?''

You can tell this is a strong person because he abuses the words Tard and Fag

Just as strong as his great great great x 6 million grandfather ;)
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HUNGARY - Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy Image 13 Nov 2017 21:12 #68

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Its not the j*ws

Its the christians.

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So how do you think we can get out of this mess?

By buying Novum heathen herbs , get a 30% discount by using the code : desertreligionsareforFAGS :thumbup:

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So how do you think we can get out of this mess?

By buying Novum heathen herbs , get a 30% discount by using the code : desertreligionsareforFAGS :thumbup:

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:chuckle:

Those heathen herbs are from Sinead McCarthy.

Obviously she 'profits' by 'destroying the competition'...

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There's only so many truther dollars to go around, ergo the competition is fierce.
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... talking about $$$ again.

Seems to be as important on TZ as is the subject DRUGS.

What about talking about TRUTH on Truth Zone for a change.

And what exactly has this above chit chat to do with Hungary and Viktor Orban.

No question marks!

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And what exactly has this above chit chat to do with Hungary and Viktor Orban.

Cant you segue into a Renegade Tribune hit piece on Orban, you know, just to keep the flow going.

Since he's a shill and all, they must have something on him.
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Viktor Orban played a big part in the fight against Communism in Hungary during the 1980's, so he can't be totally kosher. There's nothing kosher about his stance on immigration either. Not as far as I can tell anyhow.



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Viktor Orban played a big part in the fight against Communism in Hungary during the 1980's, so he can't be totally kosher. There's nothing kosher about his stance on immigration either. Not as far as I can tell anyhow.




I don't know much about Hungarian politics, but aren't we seeing another orchestrated fight between the left Soros supporting Jewish oligarchy
and the right Jewish Israel supporting oligarchy.

At the end of the day, it's probably another deception.

Victor Orban doesn't have a problem with Israel as his remarks after meeting Netanyahu indicate.

Media tell us Netanyahu hates Soros, but Soros is financially involved with Jared Kushner, who is a lifelong friend of the
Israeli Prime Minister.

The uncontrolled immigration happening in Europe today benefits the Jewish elite. Soros and others steer this immigration policy to create
unrest in European Nations. They and the media especially demonise Muslims in general, who know more about their Talmudic practices than Christians or non-Muslim Goyim do.

Jewish people will leave Hungary and other European countries for Israel if civil unrest occurs because of uncontrolled immigration. This is what Netanyahu and many elite Jews are planning in my opinion. In a globalised world, it makes no difference if Jews are controlling the reins from
London, Washington or Tel Aviv.

18 July 2017

"The Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán – who has been accused of stoking antisemitism – has greeted his Israeli counterpart with a public promise to “protect” Hungary’s Jewish community.

Referring to Hungary’s collaboration with the Nazis, the rightwing leader told Benjamin Netanyahu, who is in Budapest on a controversial visit: “We decided in world war two, instead of protecting the Jewish community, to cooperate with the Nazis. This will never happen again.”




www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/18/orban-promises-netanyahu-he-will-protect-hungarys-jews
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Hmm, well, it's Politics as usual when it comes to appeasing Israel. All these World leaders have to rub shoulders with one another at times. It doesn't always necessarily mean they like each other because the press takes a photo of them shaking hands. I'm undecided on Orban anyways. He's better than the old hags May or Merkel though, that much I do know. At least the Hungarians don't have so much rotten PC forced and imposed on them.
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Zorro wrote:
Viktor Orban played a big part in the fight against Communism in Hungary during the 1980's, so he can't be totally kosher. There's nothing kosher about his stance on immigration either. Not as far as I can tell anyhow.




I don't know much about Hungarian politics, but aren't we seeing another orchestrated fight between the left Soros supporting Jewish oligarchy
and the right Jewish Israel supporting oligarchy.

At the end of the day, it's probably another deception.

Victor Orban doesn't have a problem with Israel as his remarks after meeting Netanyahu indicate.

Media tell us Netanyahu hates Soros, but Soros is financially involved with Jared Kushner, who is a lifelong friend of the
Israeli Prime Minister.

The uncontrolled immigration happening in Europe today benefits the Jewish elite. Soros and others steer this immigration policy to create
unrest in European Nations. They and the media especially demonise Muslims in general, who know more about their Talmudic practices than Christians or non-Muslim Goyim do.

Jewish people will leave Hungary and other European countries for Israel if civil unrest occurs because of uncontrolled immigration. This is what Netanyahu and many elite Jews are planning in my opinion. In a globalised world, it makes no difference if Jews are controlling the reins from
London, Washington or Tel Aviv.

18 July 2017

"The Hungarian prime minister, Viktor Orbán – who has been accused of stoking antisemitism – has greeted his Israeli counterpart with a public promise to “protect” Hungary’s Jewish community.

Referring to Hungary’s collaboration with the Nazis, the rightwing leader told Benjamin Netanyahu, who is in Budapest on a controversial visit: “We decided in world war two, instead of protecting the Jewish community, to cooperate with the Nazis. This will never happen again.”




www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/18/orban-promises-netanyahu-he-will-protect-hungarys-jews

It doesn't look like either of them believe that statement.
Politicians are professional cunts.
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For information:

Nigel Farage exposes George Soros: The biggest international political collusion in history

Farage talks at the European Parliament in Strasburg today, 14 November 2017 and also mentions Orban:

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Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it. Secure transactions via paypal.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2018 - May 2019, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 260 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 370 - Raised
( £ 284 GBP )
donation thermometer
109%
Updated
2nd April 2019

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.