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TOPIC: Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism

Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism 17 Apr 2015 12:09 #21

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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism 24 Apr 2015 14:32 #22

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Nazi is simply a national socialist that presents it's terms in a fascist manner. :thumbup:
truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/64913-what-is-a-nazi.html?start=80#162736




Thumbing yourself up and posting Jewish songs won't make your idiotic lies become truth,
no matter how often you repeat them, hasbara troll.



Jewish songs

Marjorie Mazia was born Marjorie Greenblatt and her mother, Aliza Greenblatt, was a well-known Yiddish poet. With her, Guthrie wrote numerous Jewish lyrics. Guthrie's Jewish lyrics can be traced to the unusual collaborative relationship he had with his mother-in-law, who lived across from Guthrie and his family in Brooklyn in the 1940s. Guthrie (the Oklahoma troubadour) and Greenblatt (the Jewish wordsmith) often discussed their artistic projects and critiqued each other's works, finding common ground in their shared love of culture and social justice, despite very different backgrounds. Their collaboration flourished in 1940s Brooklyn, where Jewish culture was interwoven with music, modern dance, poetry and anti-fascist, pro-labor, classic socialist activism. Guthrie was inspired to write songs that came directly out of this unlikely relationship, both personal and political; he identified the problems of Jews with those of his fellow Okies and other oppressed peoples.

These lyrics were rediscovered by Nora Guthrie and were set to music by the Jewish Klezmer group The Klezmatics with the release of Happy Joyous Hanukkah on JMG Records in 2007. The Klezmatics also released Wonder Wheel – Lyrics by Woody Guthrie, an album of spiritual lyrics put to music composed by the band.[89] The album, produced by Danny Blume, was awarded a Grammy Award for Best Contemporary World Music Album.

In 2006, The Klezmatics set Jewish lyrics written by Guthrie to music. The resulting album, Wonder Wheel, won the Grammy award for best contemporary world music album

In the Almanac House, Guthrie added authenticity to their work, since he was a "real" working-class Oklahoman. "There was the heart of America personified in Woody ... And for a New York Left that was primarily Jewish, first or second generation American, and was desperately trying to get Americanized, I think a figure like Woody was of great, great importance", a friend of the group, Irwin Silber, would say.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Guthrie#Jewish_songs


Greenblatt = www.dict.cc/?s=Blatt
Blume = www.dict.cc/?s=Blume
Silber = www.dict.cc/?s=Silber


Reference
=> truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63588-communism-was-jewish-communism-is-jewish.html
=> truth-zone.net/forum/history/65452-lenin-s-transfer-to-russia-the-role-of-jewish-bolsheviks.html
=> truth-zone.net/forum/history/65213-freemasonry-bolshevism-and-dirty-little-secrets-you-weren-t-supposed-to-know-the-stalin-churchill-pact.html



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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism 24 Apr 2015 16:46 #23

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^ Anyone reading your posts and following the circle of your links will realize quite quickly what you are, and that is, you are some distance from anything even resembling the truth.

I see you like to shift posts about and answer them on other threads, are you practicing to become a forum moderator, if so be sure to drop us a line every now and again.

By the way, I've left you a lovely post to answer somewhere else, I'm sure you will, it's presently in the 'still talking about ww2 and Hitler is a waste of time' thread.
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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism 27 Apr 2015 15:33 #24

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Why should I respond to typical troll provocations? :cool2:

Especially as you are - typically - denying reality and distorting truth in the usual way, as can be seen on the previous page.

There is no better way of exposing your agenda than leaving your posts standing on their own unresponded.
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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism - Muhammad Ali a National Socialist? 25 May 2015 18:09 #25

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Muhammad Ali's seen here preaching the preservation of race. "It's nature! I love my people!"








Muhammad Ali 1968 speech on race mixing
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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism - Muhammad Ali a National Socialist? 24 Jun 2015 14:28 #26

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism - Muhammad Ali a National Socialist? 07 Jun 2016 13:54 #27

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Q: Liberals often refer to National Socialists as “fascists.” Are they correct in this practice?

A: Liberals apply the label “fascist” to anyone whose ideas they find abhorrent or dangerous–even conservatives. They tend to use this term as a smear word, not restricting it to the adherents of any specific ideology. Thus, they probably feel as justified in trying to smear us with the label “fascist” as any other of their opponents.

Q: Well, is it proper for National Socialists to refer to themselves as “fascists?”

A: Certainly not. When we use the term we are virtually always referring to the adherents of the specific social-political doctrine on which Benito Mussolini founded his governmental system in Italy–that is Fascist with a captial “F.” Although it may not seem important to the liberal, there is a profound difference between National Socialism and Fascism.

Q: But I thought that both Fascism and National Socialism were highly centralized, authoritarian and strongly nationalistic forms of goverment, with only slight differences between the ways they operated.

A: You have been reading too many textbooks written by liberals. Certainly the Fascist state and the National Socialist movement are authoritarian, and they both have a strong social basis. Furthermore, both Adolf Hitler’s National Socialist government and Mussolini’s Fascist government administered most of their programs for national and social renewal on a centralized, nationwide basis. Both governments brought forth immense popular enthusiasm, which was manifested in numerous public demonstrations and celebrations. All these things contributed to a seeming similarity. But the differences betwen the two systems are by no means slight!

Q: What are some of these differences?

A: The really fundamental difference lies in the role of the state and the race under each system.

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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism - Muhammad Ali a National Socialist? 12 Sep 2016 21:45 #28

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Further new reference:


What is Fascism? An Ideology explained


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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism 22 Sep 2016 14:12 #29

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Presumably a NS knows what NS is and a Fascist knows what Fascism is.
They'd not be especially politically astute if they didn't.
Chances are though that their political opponents will simply continue calling them 'Nazi' or 'Fascist' irrespective because, as it contains the word 'Socialist' (National 'Socialist') those opponents possibly see that term as a less effective 'insult' than either Nazi or Fascist.
Online most useful converstaions seldom peogress further than the first time that one poster calls another poster a Nazi.
Never yet seen 'National Socialist' used online as an insult. It's always 'Nazi'.
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GMP wrote:
Presumably a NS knows what NS is and a Fascist knows what Fascism is.
They'd not be especially politically astute if they didn't.
Chances are though that their political opponents will simply continue calling them 'Nazi' or 'Fascist' irrespective because, as it contains the word 'Socialist' (National 'Socialist') those opponents possibly see that term as a less effective 'insult' than either Nazi or Fascist.
Online most useful converstaions seldom peogress further than the first time that one poster calls another poster a Nazi.
Never yet seen 'National Socialist' used online as an insult. It's always 'Nazi'.


GMP aka grandmasterp - "Nazi": truth-zone.net/forum/search.html?query=nazi&searchuser=GMP&searchdate=all&childforums=1&limit=20

You even started quite a few "insulting" "Nazi" threads: truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/67223-online-adolf-boosting-and-controlled-opposition.html?start=100#216203

What is a Nazi? truth-zone.net/forum/the-human-condition/64913-what-is-a-nazi.html



Friedrich Hollaender - "We call them 'Nazis' just to piss them off"





Doesn't work any longer :)
As usual they overdid things ad nauseam.



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Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism 22 Sep 2016 15:08 #31

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You got it Pfizi, well done.
It's always 'Nazi' online.
Anyone ever seen the term ' National Socialist' used online as an insult where Nazi would do?
I never have.
It's a sure fire 'conversation stopper'.
Say Nazi and immediately the topic has shifted from whatever it was originally into a " Who are you calling a 'nazi' ?" Punch n Judy show.
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GMP wrote:
You got it Pfizi, well done.
It's always 'Nazi' online.
Anyone ever seen the term ' National Socialist' used online as an insult where Nazi would do?
I never have.
It's a sure fire 'conversation stopper'.
Say Nazi and immediately the topic has shifted from whatever it was originally into a " Who are you calling a 'nazi' ?" Punch n Judy show.

:)


Yes, of course, this is common knowledge and exactly why you are doing it.

Nice to hear it from the horse's mouth.

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Kvetch (derived from German www.dict.cc/?s=quetschen) Stage 1: They frequently use ‘Stop Words’ (for example ‘racist’, ‘anti-Semitic’, ‘bigot’, ‘Nazi’ etc) and attempt to utilise social shaming to force a retraction or force their opponent from the contest.


Same with "fascist" or "Fascho" in German antifa speak.
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