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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 10 Oct 2015 10:44 #21

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Why is there no outrage on this forum about American old and new atrocities?

Is the USA as sacrosanct as is Is-not-real?

Are the frogs of this world already cooked?



:dunno:


PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Eva Nielsen
October 4, 2015 @ 11:52 pm

I will always remember Killery for saying:

WE CAME-WE SAW-HE DIED. Said when she retunrned from Libya, some days after Ghadaffi was murdered and sodomised with a knife.

All done by NATO´s hired killers.



Source


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Some say this is retaliation for Russia helping Assad ...


MSM NEWS


I'd say this is just their usual way of giving demoncrazy to the world ..... at least since 1945.



PFIZIPFEI wrote:
This is nothing new, as the msm insinuate, this is typical for the misanthropic warfare of the US proxy government of greater Israel
against benevolent mankind since at least 1945 !

LEST WE FORGET !

Dresden - Hamburg - Nuremberg - Hiroshima - Nagasaki ..... holo causting civilians in millions







On October 3, just after 2 a.m., a US AC-130 warplane dropped its first bombs on a Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, beginning an attack that lasted more than an hour. The strikes killed 12 MSF staff and 10 patients, including three children, and they wounded 37 others.

"Those people that could had moved quickly to the building's two bunkers to seek safety," Heman Nagarathnam, MSF's head of programs in northern Afghanistan, who was in the hospital at the time, said in a statement. "But patients who were unable to escape burned to death as they lay in their beds."

After news of the attacks spread, MSF withdrew from Kunduz and demanded an independent investigation, describing the incident as a "war crime." Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein, the UN high commissioner for human rights, called the attack "tragic, inexcusable, and possibly even criminal."


But should it be considered a "war crime"?


"We don't know yet," says Leonard Rubenstein, director of the Program on Human Rights, Health and Conflict at the Bloomberg School of Public Health and Johns Hopkins University. Under the Geneva Conventions, hospitals can't legally be deliberately targeted for a military attack. In cases where the enemy is using hospitals as cover, however, they can become legitimate military targets. Also, care must be taken to keep the attack proportional to the threat, and to avoid civilian casualties.


Read more: www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/10/us-bombing-afghan-hospital-war-crime



There is no doubt that this was a war crime - but they are doing this since at least 1945 bringing death and demoncrazy to
the world incessantly.


PICTURES


This MUST stop!



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A Short History of U.S. Bombing of Civilian Facilities


On October 3, a U.S. AC-130 gunship attacked a hospital run by Médecins Sans Frontières in Kunduz, Afghanistan, partially destroying it. Twelve staff members and 10 patients, including three children, were killed, and 37 people were injured. According to MSF, the U.S. had previously been informed of the hospital’s precise location, and the attack continued for 30 minutes after staff members desperately called the U.S. military.

The U.S. first claimed the hospital had been “collateral damage” in an airstrike aimed at “individuals” elsewhere who were “threatening the force.” Since then, various vague and contradictory explanations have been offered by the U.S. and Afghan governments, both of which promise to investigate the bombing. MSF has called the attack a war crime and demanded an independent investigation by a commission set up under the Geneva Conventions.


Full Article covering 1991 onward atrocities only: theintercept.com/2015/10/07/a-short-history-of-u-s-bombing-of-civilian-facilities/



Urgent appeal by Belgian doctors

Medical Aid for the Third World, a group from Brussels, Belgium, that has had a small delegation of physicians in Baghdad since March 16, has called attention to a “humanitarian catastrophe” caused by the U.S.-British bombings and invasion of Iraq. On April 16, the doctors demanded that the occupying powers carry out their responsibilities under the fourth Geneva Convention and asked the UN to resume humanitarian operations at once. They said, in part:

“We have seen hundreds of civilians, including many children, injured and killed, often by prohibited weapons such as cluster bombs. We have seen how ambulances and civilian cars have been hit by US troops.

“We have experienced how patients and health workers had difficulties passing US military checkpoints and reaching medical facilities.

“We now see how the Iraqi civilian hospitals and other medical facilities are plundered and neglected. Many Iraqi health professionals can no longer report to work. Without electricity, safe water supply and the provision of medicines and other medical supplies, many patients are simply left to die.”

They placed the blame on U.S. and British authorities for launching a war of aggression in violation of international law and repeatedly breaching the Geneva Conventions. They said that at the request of victims, they asked a lawyer to explore the possibility of a war crimes trial. Ultimately, a solution required the unconditional withdrawal of occupation troops, full restoration of Iraqi sovereignty, and payment by the U.S. and the U.K. for all damages inflicted on the people and society, the group stated. Nevertheless:

“In the meantime, as occupying powers, the US and Great Britain have the duty of ensuring the food and medical supplies of the population (Article 55 of the Fourth Geneva Convention). They likewise have the duty of ensuring and maintaining, with the cooperation of national and local authorities, the medical and hospital establishments and services, public health and hygiene in the occupied territory. They must allow medical personnel to carry out their duties (Article 56 of the Fourth Geneva Convention)....

“ We call on the relevant UN agencies, such as the UNFP, UNICEF and the WHO, to immediately resume their humanitarian operations in Iraq.”

The signers were Doctors Geert Van Moorter, Colette Moulaert, Harrie Dewitte, April Claire Geraets, and Bert De Belder, the group’s coordinator.

May 1, 2003

warandlaw.homestead.com/files/hospitals.html





Russia Bombs Terrorists, USA Bombs Hospitals


It goes against every fiber of human decency to use a tragedy involving the murder of civilians by a terrorist in an aircraft to score political points. This is about murder, not politics. One day after warning Russia for its airstrikes in Syria, what happens? The USA precision-bombs a MSF hospital in Kunduz. Whoosh-BANG! God Bless America!



Read more: www.globalresearch.ca/russia-bombs-terrorists-usa-bombs-hospitals/5479943



Unfortunately even the non-mainstream sources seem to be unable to cover the bombings/demoncrazing of hospitals and
civilian housing in general by the self-chosen "ELITE" of humankind between - let's say - 1900 and 2000.

Lots of work for coming generations to reveal the truth.


Orangeaid wrote:

Unfortunately Pfiz, I and I'm sure tens of millions of others, have been totally desensitized by the myriad of atrocities, lies, double standards and hypocritical acts done by the self proclaimed beacon of "freedom liberty and democracy".

I think all the people referred to above are revelling in seeing how Russia is completely phucking over the US and it's ridiculous minions in Syria and the broader middle east.

What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe.

Europe and the rest of the world needs protection from the USA .. and not the other way around. Russia is showing the rest of the world that that might be possible.


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The Jew / US provides the world with its only true "axis of evil".

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University Hospital, Damascus:

Meeting Victims of Western-backed Mortar and Rocket Terrorism



(...)
The victims in University Hospital the day we visited—a mere fraction of the endless injured and martyred Syrians by such terrorist attacks not only in Damascus and environs, but also in Latakia, Aleppo and elsewhere in Syria—are testimony to this terrorism.

The average reader might question why the MSM hasn’t reported on these victims, this terrorism. The sad reality is that the corporate and Gulf media serve the US-NATO-Zionist-Gulf-Turkish terror agenda.

Which is why these mortar and rocket victims stories need to be seen, heard and shared.
(...)

See the pictures of the survivors: ingaza.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/university-hospital-damascus-meeting-victims-of-western-backed-mortar-and-rocket-terrorism/





A friend of mine in Aleppo writes:


“I hesitated about sending this information, as it’s only a little detail in a huge long conflict. Then I thought it was better to share such photos, the ones you never see in the daily propaganda against Syria and its people and government, who are facing such random attacks daily. I also talk about how Syrians seem to feel about Russia coming to help defend us against the terrorists.

This is a roof of 4-story building, that was shelled by the terrorists yesterday. The building is on the way to the Military Hospital, so shootings and mortars hit it from time to time accidentally, while targeting the hospital.

A cooking-gas-cylinder bomb damaged two water cisterns on the roof, a solar cell heating system for water, plus a room that looks like a studio with a master bed and toilet. Window glass on the 4th floor was shattered.

Read more: ingaza.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/aleppo-syria-awaits-with-hope-for-russian-intervention-against-terrorists/

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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 10 Oct 2015 13:35 #22

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Thanks for re-setting the thread and removing the trolling defections. :thumbup:

A history of some other US civilian facility bombings since 1991:

Infant Formula Production Plant, Abu Ghraib, Iraq (January 21, 1991)

On the seventh day of Operation Desert Storm, aimed at evicting Iraq military forces from Kuwait, the U.S.-led coalition bombed the Infant Formula Production Plant in the Abu Ghraib suburb of Baghdad. Iraq declared that the factory was exactly what its name said, but the administration of President George H.W. Bush claimed it was “a production facility for biological weapons.” Colin Powell, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, chimed in to say, “It is not an infant formula factory. It was a biological weapons facility — of that we are sure.” The U.S. media chortled about Iraq’s clumsy, transparent propaganda, and CNN’s Peter Arnett was attacked by U.S. politicians for touring the damaged factory and reporting that “whatever else it did, it did produce infant formula.”

Iraq was telling the truth. When Saddam Hussein’s son-in-law, Hussein Kamel, defected to Jordan in 1995, he had every incentive to undermine Saddam, since he hoped the U.S. would help install him as his father-in-law’s successor — but he told CNN “there is nothing military about that place. … It only produced baby milk.” The CIA’s own investigation later concluded the site had been bombed “in the mistaken belief that it was a key BW [Biological Weapon] facility.” The original U.S. claims have nevertheless proven impossible to stamp out. The George W. Bush administration, making the case for invading Iraq in 2003, portrayed the factory as a symbol of Iraqi deceit. When the Newseum opened in 2008, it included Arnett’s 1991 reporting in a section devoted to — in the New York Times’ description — “examples of distortions that mar the profession.”

Air Raid Shelter, Amiriyah, Iraq (February 13, 1991)

The U.S. purposefully targeted an air raid shelter near the Baghdad airport with two 2,000-pound laser-guided bombs, which punched through 10 feet of concrete and killed at least 408 Iraqi civilians. A BBC journalist reported that “we saw the charred and mutilated remains. … They were piled onto the back of a truck; many were barely recognizable as human.” Meanwhile, Army Lt. Gen. Thomas Kelly of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff said: “We are chagrined if [civilian] people were hurt, but the only information we have about people being hurt is coming out of the controlled press in Baghdad.” Another U.S. general claimed the shelter was “an active command-and-control structure,” while anonymous officials said military trucks and limousines for Iraq’s senior leadership had been seen at the building.

In his 1995 CNN interview, Hussein Kamel said, “There was no leadership there. There was a transmission apparatus for the Iraqi intelligence, but the allies had the ability to monitor that apparatus and knew that it was not important.” The Iraqi blogger Riverbend later wrote that several years after the attack, she went to the shelter and met a “small, slight woman” who now lived in the shelter and gave visitors unofficial tours. Eight of her nine children had been killed in the bombing.

Al Shifa pharmaceutical factory, Khartoum, Sudan (August 20, 1998)

After al Qaeda attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, the Clinton administration targeted the Al Shifa factory with 13 cruise missiles, killing one person and wounding 11. According to President Bill Clinton, the plant was “associated with the bin Laden network” and was “involved in the production of materials for chemical weapons.”

The Clinton administration never produced any convincing evidence that this was true. By 2005, the best the U.S. could do was say, as the New York Times characterized it, that it had not “ruled out the possibility” that the original claims were right. The long-term damage to Sudan was enormous. Jonathan Belke of the Near East Foundation pointed out a year after the bombing that the plant had produced “90 percent of Sudan’s major pharmaceutical products” and contended that due to its destruction “tens of thousands of people — many of them children — have suffered and died from malaria, tuberculosis, and other treatable diseases.” Sudan has repeatedly requested a U.N. investigation of the bombing, with no success.

Train bombing, Grdelica, Serbia (April 12, 1999)

During the U.S.-led bombing of Serbia during the Kosovo war, an F-15E fighter jet fired two remotely-guided missiles that hit a train crossing a bridge near Grdelica, killing at least 14 civilians. Gen. Wesley Clark, then Supreme Allied Commander Europe, called it “an unfortunate incident we all regret.” While the F-15 crew was able to control the missiles after they were launched, NATO released footage taken from the plane to demonstrate how quickly the train was moving and how little time the jet’s crew had to react. The German newspaper Frankfurter Rundschau later reported that the video had been sped up three times. The paper quoted a U.S. Air Force spokesperson who said this was accidental, and they had not noticed this until months later — by which point “we did not deem it useful to go public with this.”

Radio Television Serbia, Belgrade, Serbia (April 23, 1999)

Sixteen employees of Serbia’s state broadcasting system were killed during the Kosovo War when NATO intentionally targeted its headquarters in Belgrade. President Clinton gave anunderwhelming defense of the bombing: “Our military leaders at NATO believe … that the Serb television is an essential instrument of Mr. Milosevic’s command and control. … It is not, in a conventional sense, therefore, a media outlet. That was a decision they made, and I did not reverse it.” U.S. envoy Richard Holbrooke told the Overseas Press Club immediately after the attack that it was “an enormously important and, I think, positive development.” Amnesty International later stated it was “a deliberate attack on a civilian object and as such constitutes a war crime.”

Chinese Embassy, Belgrade, Serbia (May 7, 1999)

Also during the Kosovo war, the U.S. bombed the Chinese embassy in Serbia’s capital, killing three staff and wounding more than 20. The defense secretary at the time, William Cohen,said it was a terrible mistake: “One of our planes attacked the wrong target because the bombing instructions were based on an outdated map.” The Observer newspaper in the U.K. later reported the U.S. had in fact deliberately targeted the embassy “after discovering it was being used to transmit Yugoslav army communications.” The Observer quoted “a source in the U.S. National Imagery and Mapping Agency” calling Cohen’s version of events “a damned lie.”Prodded by the media watchdog organization Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, the New York Times produced its own investigation finding “no evidence that the bombing of the embassy had been a deliberate act,” but rather that it had been caused by a “bizarre chain of missteps.” The article concluded by quoting Porter Goss, then chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, as saying he believed the bombing was not deliberate – “unless some people are lying to me.”

Red Cross complex, Kabul, Afghanistan (October 16 and October 26, 2001)

At the beginning of the U.S-led invasion of Afghanistan, the U.S. attacked the complex housing the International Committee of the Red Cross in Kabul. In an attempt to prevent such incidents in the future, the U.S. conducted detailed discussions with the Red Cross about the location of all of its installations in the country. Then the U.S. bombed the same complex again. The second attack destroyed warehouses containing tons of food and supplies for refugees. “Whoever is responsible will have to come to Geneva for a formal explanation,” said a Red Cross spokesperson. “Firing, shooting, bombing, a warehouse clearly marked with the Red Cross emblem is a very serious incident. … Now we’ve got 55,000 people without that food or blankets, with nothing at all.”

Al Jazeera office, Kabul, Afghanistan (November 13, 2001)

Several weeks after the Red Cross attacks, the U.S. bombed the Kabul bureau of Al Jazeera, destroying it and damaging the nearby office of the BBC. Al Jazeera’s managing director said the channel had repeatedly informed the U.S. military of its office’s location.

Al Jazeera office, Baghdad, Iraq (April 8, 2003)

Soon after the start of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the U.S. bombed the Baghdad office of Al Jazeera, killing reporter Tarek Ayoub and injuring another journalist. David Blunkett, the British home secretary at the time,subsequently revealed that a few weeks before the attack he had urged Prime Minister Tony Blair to bomb Al Jazeera’s transmitter in Baghdad. Blunkett argued, “I don’t think that there are targets in a war that you can rule out because you don’t actually have military personnel inside them if they are attempting to win a propaganda battle on behalf of your enemy.”

In 2005, the British newspaper The Mirror reported on a British government memorandum recording an April 16, 2004, conversation between Blair and President Bush at the height of the U.S. assault on Fallujah in Iraq. The Bush administration was infuriated by Al Jazeera’s coverage of Fallujah, and according to The Mirror, Bush had wanted to bomb the channel at its Qatar headquarters and elsewhere. However, the article says, Blair argued him out of it. Blair subsequently called The Mirror’s claims a “conspiracy theory.” Meanwhile, his attorney general threatened to use the Official Secrets Act to prosecute any news outlet that published further information about the memo, and, in a secret trial, did in fact prosecute and send to jail a civil servant for leaking it.

Palestine Hotel, Baghdad, Iraq (April 8, 2003)

The same day as the 2003 bombing of the Al Jazeera office in Baghdad, a U.S. tank fired a shell at the 15th floor of the Palestine Hotel, where most foreign journalists were then staying. Two reporters were killed: Taras Protsyuk, a cameraman for Reuters, and Jose Couso, a cameraman for the Spanish network Telecinco. An investigation by the Committee to Protect Journalists concluded that the attack, “while not deliberate, was avoidable.”

This story has been updated to include the April 8, 2003, attack on the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad.
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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 10 Oct 2015 21:01 #23

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Orangeaid wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
peacenik wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Why is there no outrage on this forum about American old and new atrocities?

Is the USA as sacrosanct as is Is-not-real?

Are the frogs of this world already cooked?

:dunno:

I've asked the same question about Angela Merkel's destruction of Germany through immigration. Everyone knows she's destroying Germany yet there's no outrage. MOF, there's hardly any mention of it on this forum.





What exactly is the relevance of Angela Kazmierczak Merkel Sauer on USA BOMBING HOSPITALS AGAIN ?
Except distraction of course.

And as you appear to have missed it, here is the IM ERIKA thread started on 17 October 2012:

truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/60511-myrkul-master-muppet-of-the-most-profitable-slave-colony.html


De rien.

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Notice how peacenik has unsocked and slotted in nicely with the hasbara clique. :hahano:

Notice how any discussion dealing with European leadership trashing Europe, orangeaid and his tag team buddies deflects to a discussion about America? :yup: :larf:
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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 10 Oct 2015 21:36 #24

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The list is only getting longer & longer by the day
The question should be; who is not involved in one or another way looking at all Governments & so called international Organisations!
They all in on it including Religious organisations!..........

In truth there are only two major groups ...... the People Slaves & ALL the master Rulers >>>
For more details just follow the Money!
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by Jim Kirwan
May 10, 2014
from Rense Website

In Homs, Syria,
but meant for the world at large.

People the world over have been stunned into silence by what we have done to the planet just since 9-11.

However, this goes back much, much further to everything that was done under Clinton and G.H.W. Bush as well. Because that's when the Gates of Hell were opened and when we officially began to unleash this permanent reign of terror upon the world.

The concept itself began with our wars against the native population in which more than 50 million natives died, over the course of 400 years of this scorched earth policy.

The slaves in the states shared the same time frame but because each slave was worth real money the numbers that died were smaller. The crimes against them were horrific just the same.

By the time that G.W.H. Bush arrived in the oval office, having come directly from the CIA, he still had many loose-ends to finish.

After he locked up Noriega in the Dry Tortugas, in Florida and after he began the Iraq war against Saddam in 1991, which were meant to destroy all evidence of his war-crimes, plus his drug-running and weapons trafficking.

Bush 41 set the stage for Clinton who allowed the slaughter in Rwanda, followed by Bosnia-Herzegovina which is not even close to being rehabilitated.

Then came Bush 43, illegally by appointment in December of 2000 by the U.S. Supreme Court followed, by 911 and the rejuvenation of the first War on Iraq that was never concluded.

By 2003 junior declared the continuation of the War on Iraq, supposedly for Weapons of Mass Destruction which was never a factor, in that conflict, because all those WMD's that were sold to Saddam by Rumsfeld had been either moved or destroyed by 2003.

Yet when the administration finally admitted that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction the war continued uninterrupted, despite the fact that the reason for that war had never been a factor.

By the time of the wars labeled as "The Arab Spring" which were just cover for a number of regime-changes throughout the Middle-east and financed by George Soros; the current Scorched Earth Policy went into immediate effect, throughout the Middle East.

Promises were made about Freedom & Democracy to nations that had previously had neither.

While these illegal wars were continuing the United States underwent a total conversion to a corporate Stazi-State that wiped out the U.S. Constitution and turned the US over to the criminal-Israeli regime which had been covertly directing US policy for decades before they went public under G.W. Bush.

Amerikans get their "news" from the tube. That source has been criminally controlled since the end of the Vietnam War in 1975.

Here's what CNN was supposed to report on worldwide and was supposed to look like today. This report comes from RT and is just one of several daily worldwide reports issued every day.

They are thorough and they present a totally different view from any US media assigned to cover the world today:

When the world looks at our brutality and the blood-thirsty wars, all we can see are the results, worldwide that have left virtually every country we've touched in ruins.

Drinkable water, viable electricity and any other "services" have been decimated, millions of refugees are created and millions upon millions of people get slaughtered in every country we "attack" supposedly to prevent terrorism.

Instead of "Terrorists" we slaughter "Insurgents" to the point that we have now labeled most of the U.S. population as "insurgent enemies of the State". The State here is a private-corporate fascist Stazi-State that remains virtually at war upon the rest of the world (see "Insurgents "R" Us").

Now with the ongoing war inside Ukraine, all of that "war" is being waged by US mercenary forces, combined with Nazis-forces, NATO and United Nations military forces that are about to swing into action against Russia for "creating" the violence inside Ukraine.

But as you can see from the RT report above, there are consequences for each and every sanction that we continue to place on Russia, as 'the instigator' of all of the violence in the region. Nothing could be further from the truth.

What is perhaps worse that the minute to minute news of the world is the fact that apparently Amerika remains totally unaware of what we actually leave behind in our blood-drenched wake. The nations we attacked had excellent technologists, teachers, medical services, and first rate educational services ­ Iraq was light years ahead of the United States before we began bombing it.

The same was true of Libya and Syria, but Amerikans never bothered to find out the facts behind any of the blood-baths we initiated in the name of Freedom & Democracy.

If we go back to what we began with our wars upon the native population here it's easy to see where Israel got its template for their treatment of the Palestinians, which amounts to 66 years of a totally Scorched Earth policy.

Our supposed allies are the military arms of fascist global-bankers who are still trying to wring their blood-stained profits from the left-over ruins from our mutually used Scorched Earth Polices worldwide.

Where is the public in all of this? We have supposedly changed politicians, several times in order to get different policies here in the States. But not only does nothing change, our policies continue to get much, much worse.

For instance, Obama promised to close Gitmo in his first year in office. Yesterday he got approval for over 69 million to build another Gitmo on the same site in Cuba.

It currently costs over $900,000 to care for each prisoner in the current facility…


"House committee earmarks $69M for new secret prison at Guantanamo
08 May 2014
Some members of Congress want to build a new secret prison for the alleged 9/11 mastermind [George W. Bush/Dick Cheney?] and other former CIA captives at Guantanamo, a project once proposed by the U.S. Southern Command but then dropped because of a lack of support from the Obama administration.

Republicans at the House Armed Services Committee inserted 69 million for the new 'high-value detainee complex' in its spending bill Wednesday night that earmarked a total of 93 million for new construction at the prison camps in Cuba.

At Guantanamo, the military calls the complex Camp 7 and says it's built on a clandestine location at the 45-square-mile Navy base and run by a secret U.S. Army unit called Task Force Platinum."

The United States cannot feed its own people.

Our infrastructure is in ruins. Our people live in literal terror from our own police, yet nothing at all is done to fix anything that matters. The police have become the true enemy of the people inside the USA (see "Call the Police at your own Peril").

What makes this portrait of Amerika so ugly is that no one who 'matters' ever questions anything this government does. Israel runs wild over the US government and does whatever they want anywhere while we pay for everything they do. This is what will soon be left to those of us that don't get any help to end this barbaric slaughter.

That's because if we don't learn to come together soon, then we will die alone and there will be nothing romantic about any of this…
The criminality inside the private-corporate states that run the Stazi-State is legendary and is totally above and beyond any of the so-called laws they cite for the crimes they commit by the hundreds every day.

American taxpayers are funding the destruction of the entire world, while they continue to watch their games and immerse themselves in toys and habits that have nothing to do with any of the global-crimes we commit world-wide; each and every hour day and night.

There are some suggestions below about how we could almost easily change everything if the people were to actually realize what's really going on… (see "Nullify U.S. Inc.").

Stop watching the poisoned Tube and start going to real news sources if you want any information about what is driving this world today; because that is the only way out of this nightmare.

I heard from someone in England today who mentioned that conditions in the space where most of the satellites are, is beginning to look like a massive field of fleas.

She mentioned that all of that will very soon be hit by some of those CME's that most pay absolutely no attention to at all. This will appear as if the universe will be shaking off a huge infection of fleas throughout our star system.

When that happens it will be the end of globally-corrupted communications, satellite tracking, aircraft, sophisticated weaponry of all types, spying, the internet, all our cell-phones and most of everything that has conned us into believing that we're living in a technological age.

Overnight we could soon be in the Stone Age, because of what's already been done to everything including our atmosphere. The only good news in any of that is that HAARP would end, along with Chemtrails and at least the weather could return to being just the weather…

Think about it ­ please....

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WHAT IF A ‘GOY’ called for nuking Tel Aviv? All hell would break loose. Wretched Jews from every media rat hole would demand the ‘Goy’s’ immediate death.

But let a billionaire Jew who funds Jewry’s lackeys on Capitol Hill say it—with full approval from his Jewish audience—then he and his rabble get a free pass.

Even the Jew Eric Cantor is leading Congress down the dung hill with his warmongering rants and programme.

For while Iran is waving the olive branch regarding their right to develop nuclear power, Cantor is calling for even greater sanctions against that ancient and noble country.

In concert with his fellow tribal bloodhounds at AIPAC — lobbying overtime to sabotage US-Iran negotiations via bribery of Jew-bought hacks — Cantor’s demand for harsher sanctions on the Iranian people illustrates that Jewry is indeed the enemy of mankind.

AND with blood flowing from their barking tongues, Jewish neocons William Kristol and Michael Makovsky, (Director of Jinsa that brought us the WMD lie), are endorsing Israel’s threat to “act alone” in taking military action against the people of Iran.

MORE deaths. MORE bloodshed. MORE misery SPREAD by the enemies of mankind: JEWS.

It’s time we take action. Jews MUST be put out of power. Jew-money must NOT be allowed to influence US policy any longer.

PUTTING JEWS OUT OF POWER
WE ALL KNOW what the problem is…it’s time for some real solutions.

5 Point Plan To Put Jews Out Of Power:

1) Require AIPAC to be the first Jewish organization to register as a foreign agent.

2) Jews with US-Israeli dual-citizenship must give up one or the other.

• Jews can then either choose to be US citizens of the Jewish faith or register as aliens if they keep their Israeli citizenship.

3) Jews who do give up their US citizenship and register as aliens must not be allowed constitutionally to hold government offices nor be allowed to vote.

• Jews who retain their US citizenship must swear to and sign a loyalty oath based on the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1953 which requires:

• “Renunciation” of allegiance to any foreign country to which the immigrant has had previous allegiances.

4) Citizens United must be overturned by a Constitutional Amendment so as to prevent thousands of Jewish PACS from subverting elections.

5) All Synagogues with Zionist ‘non-profit’ collection boxes or issuing Appeals to financially support Israel must register as foreign agents or lose their tax deduction status.

• No other religious institution — be it Church, Mosque, or Ashram — is allowed to conduct political and campaigning business on its premises, much less plot the subversion and overthrow of governments and establish a country of one’s own in a foreign land through land theft, fraud, murder and war.

IT’S TIME to STOP the Jews. Their power and influence MUST come to an end.

The enemies of mankind have had their say.

NOW it’s our turn to restore America and redeem the world.
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=863


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@Peacenik ... you need to learn how to read and develop basic comprehension skills. Though I know that would be difficult with the atrocious US Public Education system.

You've probably done Common Core English ... to misread this thread title "History of US Bombing Hospitals Again ..... " to think that actually means Europe being trashed.
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The deadly air strike that hit a hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz was a mistake made within the US chain of command, the American commander of international forces in Afghanistan said.



The strike on Saturday on an Afghan hospital run by Doctors Without Borders, or Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF), killed 22 people and deeply angered the medical charity.

MSF officials have blamed the United States, demanding an independent investigation into the incident and calling it a war crime.

US Army General John Campbell said US forces had responded to requests from Afghan forces and provided close air support as they engaged in a fight with Taliban militants in the provincial capital of Kunduz.

"To be clear, the decision to provide aerial fires was a US decision made within the US chain of command," General Campbell said in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"A hospital was mistakenly struck. We would never intentionally target a protected medical facility."
mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-07/afghan-hospital-mistakenly-struck-general/6832504

Lying sack of shit. The US deliberately fire bombed hundreds of thousands of people in Tokyo and burnt them to death in their homes and called that "the Good War" and a good deed as they saved giving out thousands of bravery medals to those who would have died in a ground assault.

The US has been deliberately killing millions of innocent people for over a century.
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... to misread this thread title "History of US Bombing Hospitals Again ..... " to think that actually means Europe being trashed.

Clean up your own backyard before whining about others. :nono: You've managed to divert a thread on, "USA Bombing Hospitals Again .." into one on, Russia and European relationships

The best part is, you're to dumb to see your own hypocrisy.
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"What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe."
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... to misread this thread title "History of US Bombing Hospitals Again ..... " to think that actually means Europe being trashed.

Clean up your own backyard before whining about others. :nono: You've managed to divert a thread on, "USA Bombing Hospitals Again .." into one on, Russia and European relationships

The best part is, you're to dumb to see your own hypocrisy.
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"What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe."
Yes, their banking system & money is the same 'jew-s-a controlled. The collations are always UK/USA/AU without fail.
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peacenik wrote:
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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Why is there no outrage on this forum about American old and new atrocities?

Is the USA as sacrosanct as is Is-not-real?

Are the frogs of this world already cooked?



:dunno:

Unfortunately Pfiz, I and I'm sure tens of millions of others, have been totally desensitized by the myriad of atrocities, lies, double standards and hypocritical acts done by the self proclaimed beacon of "freedom liberty and democracy".

I think all the people referred to above are revelling in seeing how Russia is completely phucking over the US and it's ridiculous minions in Syria and the broader middle east.

What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe.

Europe and the rest of the world needs protection from the USA .. and not the other way around. Russia is showing the rest of the world that that might be possible.

I think you've been watching to much, ABCCBSNBC?

The Americans I've talked to, as well as all American alternative media, I've seen, approve of Russia's actions in Syria.

You need to find another boogy-man. Or, at the very least, clearly define the one you already have.

A few days ago when I logged into TZ and read Phiz's OP post , I was pissed off with it's insidiousness . so much so I logged out and went to FB for a few days and believe me there are so strong peeps there who really know the score .....
.................one might legitimately ask that question of the American public watching CNN ( and even they are wondering where the phuck did flatting the ME get us , living under intensified poverty , homelessness , excessive immigration in to the jUSSA and the total mess being made out of Europe ) .......
however, to ask that question of us here is both insulting and divisive .......and personally I was already completely sick of dealing with both.

Try this guy in for size -



There is no way in hell that Putin is not playing the new good cop to Obama's new bad cop in the scenario - in much the same way the the USA ( Bernie Sanders ) and the UK ( Corbyn ) are now being offered jewish left , Fabian, Liberal Communists - another huge head fake .



all I've seen Putin do is make 'hate' speech illegal , drop a few precision bombs and draw the line exactly where it's supposed by drawn ....



... what makes anyone think that Americans are so stupid - this last FF didn't fly .






and we ALL know this arch sub-human villain --- urging this second hoaxed cold war - right from the TOP.
www.politico.com/story/2015/10/zbigniew-brzezinski-financial-times-op-ed-obama-retaliate-russia-214438

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Major works by Brzezinski

The Permanent Purge: Politics in Soviet Totalitarianism. Harvard University Press. 1956.
Soviet Bloc: Unity and Conflict. Harvard University Press. 1967. ISBN 978-0-674-82545-1.
Between Two Ages : America's Role in the Technetronic Era. Viking Press. 1970. ISBN 978-0-313-23498-9.
Power and Principle: Memoirs of the National Security Adviser, 1977–1981. Farrar, Straus, Giroux. 1983. ISBN 978-0-374-23663-2.
Game Plan: A Geostrategic Framework for the Conduct of the U.S.-Soviet Contest. Atlantic Monthly Press. 1986. ISBN 978-0-87113-084-6.
Grand Failure: The Birth and Death of Communism in the Twentieth Century. Collier Books. 1990. ISBN 978-0-02-030730-3.
Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the 21st Century. Collier Books. 1993. ISBN 978-0-684-82636-3.
The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives. Basic Books. 1997. ISBN 0-465-02725-3. Subsequently translated and published in nineteen languages.
The Choice: Global Domination or Global Leadership. Basic Books. 2004. ISBN 978-0-465-00800-1.
Second Chance: Three Presidents and the Crisis of American Superpower. Basic Books. 2007. ISBN 978-0-465-00252-8.
America and the World: Conversations on the Future of American Foreign Policy. Basic Books. 2008. ISBN 978-0-465-01501-6.
Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power. Basic Books. 2012. ISBN 978-0-465-02954-9.


Other books and monographs

Russo-Soviet Nationalism, M.A. Thesis, McGill University (1950)
Political Control in the Soviet Army: A Study on Reports by Former Soviet Officers, New York, Research Program on the U.S.S.R (1954)
with Carl J. Friedrich, Totalitarian Dictatorship and Autocracy, Cambridge: Harvard University Press (1956)
Ideology and Power in Soviet Politics, New York: Praeger (1962)
with Samuel Huntington, Political Power: USA/USSR, New York: Viking Press (April 1963), ISBN 0-670-56318-8
Alternative to Partition: For a Broader Conception of America's Role in Europe, Atlantic Policy Studies, New York: McGraw-Hill (1965)
The Implications of Change for United States Foreign Policy, Department of State (1967)
International Politics in the Technetronic Era, Sofia University Press (1971)
The Fragile Blossom: Crisis and Change in Japan, New York: Harper and Row (1972), ISBN 0-06-010468-6
with P. Edward Haley, American Security in an Interdependent World, Rowman & Littlefield (September 1988), ISBN 0-8191-7084-4
with Marin Strmecki, In Quest of National Security, Boulder: Westview Press (September 1988), ISBN 0-8133-0575-6
The Soviet Political System: Transformation or Degeneration, Irvington Publishers (August 1993), ISBN 0-8290-3572-9
Zbigniew Brzezinski, bibliography and drawings = Zbigniew Brzeziński, bibliografia i rysunki, Łódź: Correspondance des arts (1993)
with Paige Sullivan, Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States: Documents, Data, and Analysis, Armonk: M. E. Sharpe (1996), ISBN 1-56324-637-6
The Geostrategic Triad: Living with China, Europe, and Russia, Center for Strategic & International Studies (December 2000), ISBN 0-89206-384-X
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... to misread this thread title "History of US Bombing Hospitals Again ..... " to think that actually means Europe being trashed.

Clean up your own backyard before whining about others. :nono: You've managed to divert a thread on, "USA Bombing Hospitals Again .." into one on, Russia and European relationships

The best part is, you're to dumb to see your own hypocrisy.
:larf:

"What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe."
Oh ... I'm sorry. How silly of me ... I really forgot how the world should be eternally grateful for the US and its spread of democracy and values of freedom peace and liberty.

Thank you America.



Lets worship USA (oo ss uh)



Let's be so grateful for the democratic processes that come from the US Congress





.. and it's leaders who speak for all Americans while also controlling the world's largest and most powerful military.

Let's not forget how the Clintons hosted the Rothschilds in the White House for their honeymoon in 2000.



... then through their support behind John McCain.



The US people (and the world who feels the aftermath of the use of its military) should be grateful for how much Obama acts in their best interests



Or how the Republican Party also acts in the best interests of the American people.



www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/24/gop-contenders-gather-at-sheldon-adelson-primary-in-vegas/





... the world really does owe you and should be eternally grateful. :)
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Lizzy wrote:
peacenik wrote:
Orangeaid wrote:
PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Why is there no outrage on this forum about American old and new atrocities?

Is the USA as sacrosanct as is Is-not-real?

Are the frogs of this world already cooked?



:dunno:

Unfortunately Pfiz, I and I'm sure tens of millions of others, have been totally desensitized by the myriad of atrocities, lies, double standards and hypocritical acts done by the self proclaimed beacon of "freedom liberty and democracy".

I think all the people referred to above are revelling in seeing how Russia is completely phucking over the US and it's ridiculous minions in Syria and the broader middle east.

What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe.

Europe and the rest of the world needs protection from the USA .. and not the other way around. Russia is showing the rest of the world that that might be possible.

I think you've been watching to much, ABCCBSNBC?

The Americans I've talked to, as well as all American alternative media, I've seen, approve of Russia's actions in Syria.

You need to find another boogy-man. Or, at the very least, clearly define the one you already have.

A few days ago when I logged into TZ and read Phiz's OP post , I was pissed off with it's insidiousness . so much so I logged out and went to FB for a few days and believe me there are so strong peeps there who really know the score .....
.................one might legitimately ask that question of the American public watching CNN ( and even they are wondering where the phuck did flatting the ME get us , living under intensified poverty , homelessness , excessive immigration in to the jUSSA and the total mess being made out of Europe ) .......
however, to ask that question of us here is both insulting and divisive .......and personally I was already completely sick of dealing with both.

Try this guy in for size -



There is no way in hell that Putin is not playing the new good cop to Obama's new bad cop in the scenario - in much the same way the the USA ( Bernie Sanders ) and the UK ( Corbyn ) are now being offered jewish left , Fabian, Liberal Communists - another huge head fake .



all I've seen Putin do is make 'hate' speech illegal , drop a few precision bombs and draw the line exactly where it's supposed by drawn ....



... what makes anyone think that Americans are so stupid - this last FF didn't fly .






and we ALL know this arch sub-human villain --- urging this second hoaxed cold war - right from the TOP.
www.politico.com/story/2015/10/zbigniew-brzezinski-financial-times-op-ed-obama-retaliate-russia-214438

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Major works by Brzezinski

The Permanent Purge: Politics in Soviet Totalitarianism. Harvard University Press. 1956.
Soviet Bloc: Unity and Conflict. Harvard University Press. 1967. ISBN 978-0-674-82545-1.
Between Two Ages : America's Role in the Technetronic Era. Viking Press. 1970. ISBN 978-0-313-23498-9.
Power and Principle: Memoirs of the National Security Adviser, 1977–1981. Farrar, Straus, Giroux. 1983. ISBN 978-0-374-23663-2.
Game Plan: A Geostrategic Framework for the Conduct of the U.S.-Soviet Contest. Atlantic Monthly Press. 1986. ISBN 978-0-87113-084-6.
Grand Failure: The Birth and Death of Communism in the Twentieth Century. Collier Books. 1990. ISBN 978-0-02-030730-3.
Out of Control: Global Turmoil on the Eve of the 21st Century. Collier Books. 1993. ISBN 978-0-684-82636-3.
The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives. Basic Books. 1997. ISBN 0-465-02725-3. Subsequently translated and published in nineteen languages.
The Choice: Global Domination or Global Leadership. Basic Books. 2004. ISBN 978-0-465-00800-1.
Second Chance: Three Presidents and the Crisis of American Superpower. Basic Books. 2007. ISBN 978-0-465-00252-8.
America and the World: Conversations on the Future of American Foreign Policy. Basic Books. 2008. ISBN 978-0-465-01501-6.
Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power. Basic Books. 2012. ISBN 978-0-465-02954-9.


Other books and monographs

Russo-Soviet Nationalism, M.A. Thesis, McGill University (1950)
Political Control in the Soviet Army: A Study on Reports by Former Soviet Officers, New York, Research Program on the U.S.S.R (1954)
with Carl J. Friedrich, Totalitarian Dictatorship and Autocracy, Cambridge: Harvard University Press (1956)
Ideology and Power in Soviet Politics, New York: Praeger (1962)
with Samuel Huntington, Political Power: USA/USSR, New York: Viking Press (April 1963), ISBN 0-670-56318-8
Alternative to Partition: For a Broader Conception of America's Role in Europe, Atlantic Policy Studies, New York: McGraw-Hill (1965)
The Implications of Change for United States Foreign Policy, Department of State (1967)
International Politics in the Technetronic Era, Sofia University Press (1971)
The Fragile Blossom: Crisis and Change in Japan, New York: Harper and Row (1972), ISBN 0-06-010468-6
with P. Edward Haley, American Security in an Interdependent World, Rowman & Littlefield (September 1988), ISBN 0-8191-7084-4
with Marin Strmecki, In Quest of National Security, Boulder: Westview Press (September 1988), ISBN 0-8133-0575-6
The Soviet Political System: Transformation or Degeneration, Irvington Publishers (August 1993), ISBN 0-8290-3572-9
Zbigniew Brzezinski, bibliography and drawings = Zbigniew Brzeziński, bibliografia i rysunki, Łódź: Correspondance des arts (1993)
with Paige Sullivan, Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States: Documents, Data, and Analysis, Armonk: M. E. Sharpe (1996), ISBN 1-56324-637-6
The Geostrategic Triad: Living with China, Europe, and Russia, Center for Strategic & International Studies (December 2000), ISBN 0-89206-384-X

Lizzy, I don't disagree with you. There are a lot of people in the USA who know the Administration is corrupt as phuck controlled by Jewish warmongers and with controlled puppets put in DC to supposedly represent the wishes of the American people.

One does need to question the intelligence though of the average American.

Remember how many tens of millions were sucked in by this con job?



... hearing the shilling for the Soros controlled gay communist by Jew Hollywood's perverted liberal celebrities?

Tens of millions bought the lie ... and voted for him.
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BOTH sides are the VILLAINS - it was created that way - esp after 1912 and the FED came in and the Russian Revolution took place - they had BOTH sides in their pocket.

But it was designed that ultimately a TOTALITARIAN GLOBAL GOVERNACE would be the vehicle of Talmudic , zionist , jewish dominance ......
The British allowed Israel to come into being - the zio banksters' that's bleed the US treasury and controlled policy . .....

No one can blame the PEOPLE - FFS - we all know about the 60 M dead christian russians and the Economic HITMAN in the west - just because Russia hasn't backed it's regime with thatmuch blood , bombs and bullets doesn't mean it's not part of the game ........
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Commie Jewish Left Destroying White Germany
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ANETTA KAHANE COMMIE
Stasi Roots of the German-Jewish “Anti-Racist” Left and Its Program of Destroying Ethnic Germany

By Francis Carr Begbie @Occidental Observer

ANETTA KAHANE INSETFor professional German “anti-racist” Anetta Kahane, last week was a very good week. For one of her many organisations is slated to lead the campaign to shut down opposition to the immigrant invasion on Facebook.

This clampdown on Facebook free speech is now one of the German government’s highest priorities following a meeting between between Angela Merkel and Mark Zuckerburg, and means that henceforth all criticism of the immigrant invasion will be severely curtailed. Such a vast initiative will need an army of loyal and trusted functionaries, and who better but Ms Kahane and her Network Against Nazis (“Netz gegen Nazis”) to show they mean business? Just to make sure ordinary Germans get the message the government have charged the leader of the dissident PEGIDA movement for anti-immigrant comments he made on Facebook.

In the lucrative anti-racism sector, Anetta Kahane is without doubt a shrewd and far-seeing operator. She recognised earlier than most that there were huge amounts of money to be had by re-packaging ordinary people’s concerns about immigration into “Neo-Nazi” scares, and she worked hard to ramp up this industry and turn it into the money-making machine that it is today.

Like so many Jewish leaders in Europe these days, Kahane is quite brazen in expressing her wish for the destruction of White Europe. “You have to really change the policy of immigration inside Europe. This is very important; you have to change the educational system and the self-understanding of the states. They are not only white anymore or only Swedish or only Portuguese or only German. They are multicultural places in the world.”

1200x630_294460_pegida-darkens-immigration-climate-iThis is who they call “Neo Nazis.” Notice how American mainstream media (even FOX) is keeping very silent about anti-immigration protests like this in Germany — because they don’t want Whites to see other Whites organizing, nor get what is being done to our race — and not just in Germany, either. (INCOG)

It was her founding of an organisation called the Amadeu Antonio Foundation in 1998 that has been her springboard to fame. This well-funded outfit aims to smear and defame all White resistance to immigration as “neo-Nazi” and works closely with magazines such as Stern and Die Welt to that end. Modelled after the Stephen Lawrence campaign in the UK, it receives lavish funding from the German government, the EU and a host of international NGOs including the Ford Foundation.

Her work has earned her a huge profile, and she is frequently sought out by the media for her views. She is not slow to oblige. Except, perhaps, when it comes to one matter.

This is her role as a collaborator for the Stasi or East German Ministry of State Security between 1974 and 1982. From the age of nineteen, Kahane — codename: “Victoria” — was an enthusiastic informer or inoffiziele Mitarbeiter (IM) and submitted monthly secret reports on the political reliability of dozens of fellow students, journalists, actors and writers she mixed with.

Her own file shows her controller considered her to be zealous and reliable. Her role as a trusted informant in the state apparatus meant privileges denied to ordinary East Germans such as foreign travel. At the East German embassy in Mozambique she worked as a translator and informed on her colleagues there. She was paid in money and “gifts” for her services.

Collaborators like Kahane wielded a terrible power. The spraying of graffiti or even written criticism of the regime could result in years of imprisonment and hard labour. A wrong word out of place and a career could be blighted forever.

She was far from the only one. John Koehler, author of The Stasi, estimates that if part-time collaborators were included, there could have been one for every 6.5 citizens, far more than were used in Nazi Germany. Only North Korea has imposed a comparable level of surveillance over its citizens.

STASI PORTRAITMembers of the Stasi — Communist East Germany’s secret internal police and Global spy apparatus — gather for a group photo. Certainly many, if not all, of these commies are Jews. Those were heady days for the creeps! (INCOG)

Another prominent East German Jew was also unmasked as a Stasi IM informant. His name is Gregor Gysi; TOO readers may remember the YouTube video of this man gloating at the prospect of the race-replacement of Germans by immigrant invaders. (See also this article by Max Blumenthal, a critic of Israel. Blumenthal writes that Gysi “felt compelled to engineer the campaign to suppress our speech.” White advocating the destruction of ethnic Germany, Gysi is nothing if not a Jewish patriot.)

After reunification, Gysi tried to persuade the former Soviet authorities to hide or destroy the Stasi files identifying collaborators like himself. Ultimately he failed, but he has since fought a vigorous legal battle to suppress discussion of his time as a Stasi informant. He has bounced back from this humiliation, and today is the leader of the left-wing Die Linke (“The Link”), Germany’s third largest party.

As with Anette Kahane, Gregor Gysi enjoyed a privileged upbringing as the offspring of a senior Jewish Communist Party apparatchik. Gysi’s father Klaus was a member of the Politburo and a close friend of East German leader Erich Honecker. Klaus Gysi enjoyed a number of senior foreign postings including ambassador to the Vatican.

And they were far from the only ones. German Jews flocked to East Germany after the war and many enjoyed a rapid rise through the Party machinery. As in the Soviet Union in the early decades and throughout Eastern Europe after World War II (e.g., Poland; see here, p. 66), Jews became prominent in the security police. An infamous example is Colonel General Marcus Wolfe, chief of the Stasi’s foreign espionage directorate.

Jews were important cogs in the apparatus of communist oppression because they were not ethnically German and thought by Moscow to be therefore more trustworthy. It was a role for which there are many historic parallels — the Jews as loyal overseer for a foreign ruler, over a sullen, unwilling population.

After the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, there was a huge cry for justice against the communists. But the pursuit of this justice was a halting affair. Many of the guilty escaped punishment as their cases became stalled and abandoned. This is in stark comparison with what happened at the end of World War II when the East Germans arrested so many of their own citizens they had to re-open or establish eleven concentration camps including Buchanwald and Sacksenhausen.

1107-Berlin-Wall-970-630x420When the Berlin Wall fell in 1989. Unfortunately, the commies never really went away.

In the five years after 1945 some 160,000 Germans disappeared into these camps. Of these about 65,000 died, 36,000 were shipped to the Soviet Union, and 36,000 were freed.

For though many Jews obviously enjoyed a privileged existence in the former East Germany, they now insist their lives were blighted by an anti-Semitism every bit as bad as anywhere else.

As far as Anetta Kahane is concerned, in East Germany she was a victim too, forced to conceal or bury her Jewish identity. But in fact socialist dogma frowned on all as an outmoded construct that belonged in the dustbin of history.

Kahane typifies the deceptive and often self-deceptive nature of Jewish identification under communism (see above link, passim), noting “My parents were Marxist-Leninists and had nothing to do with religion. But my father liked to talk about his grandparents, which was for him the romantic side of Judaism.” But here is a curious paradox — where religion in submerged, ethnic identity typically remained intact. For while many Jews pled persecution, they seem to have had no problem pursuing specifically Jewish ethnic causes and preoccupations.

Kahane’s father, the famous journalist Max Kahane, is a case in point. He covered the case of Adolf Eichmann, the alleged Nazi war criminal. Institutional East German “anti-Semitism” did not stop him from covering this story from beginning to end and journeying from Argentina to the trial itself in Israel.

Another Stasi IM collaborator was the head of East Berlin’s Jewish Community Dr. Peter Kirchner. Although publicly a strong supporter of Israel, he was also an informant, known to his controller as “Burg.” He does not seem to have suffered.

Jewish historian and documentary filmmaker Helmut Eshwege is yet another. Throughout his time in the GDR he was a vocal supporter of Israel, and in his autobiography, claimed to have suffered greatly from anti-Semitism. It’s a shame that in this book he did not feel able to write about his role as a Stasi informant called “Ferdinand,” which was revealed afterwards. (At his last meeting with his controllers on 15 November, 1989 he handed over the constitution of the new left-wing party which was to replace the communists).

There are numerous similar examples. Take Kahane and Gysi’s old comrade, distinguished writer Stefan Heym. Having sat out the war safely in the United States he returned to East Germany and a distinguished writer’s position, as a fanatical cheerleader for the regime. After the death of Stalin he wrote of how the murderer of tens of millions was “the most loved man of our times.” After reunification he lost no time in rediscovering his Jewish victimhood card. In 1995 he said “the political climate is very similar to that of 1933, and this frightens me.”

So where was the East German anti-Semitism? The more this issue is teased out, the more it seems obvious that Jews were not singled out for persecution but at the same time were not given the special status they felt they deserved as the self-styled “pre-eminent victims” of the Holocaust. In East Germany it was taught that it was communists who were singled out by the Nazis.

Two East German policies, in particular, grated with Jews and have been described as Anti-semitism. One was the GDR’s refusal to recognise Israel — which was consistent with their position of opposing US-backed colonial power.

The second was East Germany’s refusal to pay Holocaust reparations. While Israel received vast subventions and armaments from West Germany after 1945, the East refused to pay a dime. This infuriated the Jews who ascribed both these positions to “anti-Semitism.”

Both Anette Kahane and Gregor Gysi have made an effortless transformation into pillars of the new progressive Germany and have achieved great success. They both shrugged off their past as “informers” and prefer to concentrate on the present and how the stain on German society can only be removed by the mass immigration of alien hordes from the Middle East.

The eradication of White Germany is not their only enthusiasm. They are both tireless defenders of Israel and are quite willing to hound and harass and purge not just their own left-wing comrades, but even other Jews who do not toe the line.

Gysi declared Anti-Zionism can no longer be an acceptable position for the left in general, and the Die Linke party in particular. He has echoed the words of Angela Merkel in saying that “solidarity with Israel” as an essential component of Germany’s “reason of state.”

He has led campaigns against fellow Die Linke members accused of supporting the BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) campaign against Israel and also of those who joined the Free Gaza Flotilla. His campaigns have been successful and resulted in cancelled speaking engagements and withdrawn bookings for “Holocaust Industry” author Norman Finkelstein and Israel critic Illan Pappe, both notable dissident Jews.

As for Anetta Kahane, what effect did her reports have on the lives of the people she denounced? A good example might have been the talented young actor Klaus Brasch who, together with his brother Thomas, met Kahane in 1976.

Her confidential report on them contained the following sentence. “The enemies of the GDR primarily include Klaus Brasch and Thomas Brasch.” It would be interesting to ask Klaus Brasch about the effects that Kahane’s reports had on their careers but sadly that is not possible. Thomas Brasch died of a heart attack in 2001. His brother Klaus died from an overdose in 1980.

SMUG JEW COMMIES IN GERMANYKahane and some obviously Jewish guy (probably a professor) at a university lecture hall in Germany; most likely the two are getting ready for a little Jew brainwashing of the young. Same kind of crap happens every single day all across America — hell, on TV too. Just look at those two subversive Jew rats! (INCOG)

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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 11 Oct 2015 04:32 #34

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BOTH sides are the VILLAINS - it was created that way - esp after 1912 and the FED came in and the Russian Revolution took place - they had BOTH sides in their pocket.

But it was designed that ultimately a TOTALITARIAN GLOBAL GOVERNACE would be the vehicle of Talmudic , zionist , jewish dominance ......
The British allowed Israel to come into being - the zio banksters' that's bleed the US treasury and controlled policy . .....

No one can blame the PEOPLE - FFS - we all know about the 60 M dead christian russians and the Economic HITMAN in the west - just because Russia hasn't backed it's regime with thatmuch blood , bombs and bullets doesn't mean it's not part of the game ........
Yes Liz, and I agree. You are not coached either. ALL white nations were & are 'theirs' long ago. The blame game never ends. And now the tactic of cheap shot at the average citizen by the other 'crew' reaps them not. :thumbup:
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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 11 Oct 2015 05:00 #35

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... to misread this thread title "History of US Bombing Hospitals Again ..... " to think that actually means Europe being trashed.

Clean up your own backyard before whining about others. :nono: You've managed to divert a thread on, "USA Bombing Hospitals Again .." into one on, Russia and European relationships

The best part is, you're to dumb to see your own hypocrisy.
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"What will come out of this is that Europe will see Russia as a far greater friend and protector than the US.

heck, we may even see former eastern bloc nations leave the EU and NATO and re-align with Russia. That may even spread more broadly over more of Europe."
Oh ... I'm sorry. How silly of me ... I really forgot how the world should be eternally grateful for the US and its spread of democracy and values of freedom peace and liberty.

Thank you America.

Lets worship USA (oo ss uh)

Let's be so grateful for the democratic processes that come from the US Congress

.. and it's leaders who speak for all Americans while also controlling the world's largest and most powerful military.

Let's not forget how the Clintons hosted the Rothschilds in the White House for their honeymoon in 2000.

... then through their support behind John McCain.

The US people (and the world who feels the aftermath of the use of its military) should be grateful for how much Obama acts in their best interests

Or how the Republican Party also acts in the best interests of the American people.

... the world really does owe you and should be eternally grateful. :)

WTF? "McCain", "Republican party" , "Clintons" "worshipping America", That's a lot of gibberish to sift through in that pile, a lot of sound bites, a lot of grandstanding, a lot of incoherent musings, for just one post . No one can accuse you of staying on topic, now can they? ;)

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It is a new crew tactic. :nono:
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It is a new crew tactic. :nono:

Yeah, I know!

The, tag team, "Jew crew". Bless their hearts,..... they try so hard. :
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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 11 Oct 2015 10:15 #38

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A few days ago when I logged into TZ and read Phiz's OP post , I was pissed off with it's insidiousness . so much so I logged out and went to FB for a few days and believe me there are so strong peeps there who really know the score .....
.................one might legitimately ask that question of the American public watching CNN ( and even they are wondering where the phuck did flatting the ME get us , living under intensified poverty , homelessness , excessive immigration in to the jUSSA and the total mess being made out of Europe ) .......
however, to ask that question of us here is both insulting and divisive .......and personally I was already completely sick of dealing with both.

Projecting your personal issues publicly over and over again is insulting to yourself
and that which does not belong together
need not be divided.





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Notice how any discussion dealing with European leadership trashing Europe, orangeaid and his tag team buddies deflects to a discussion about America? :yup: :larf:



Learn more => War in Europe and why the Americans are so much detested

"AMI GO HOME !!!"

Why the Americans are so much disliked ...

NOT only by Germans !





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I think it's great Russia is doing this. I hear Russia is planning to drop several more truth bombs. concerning the US lunar landing, and the JFK assassination. It's about time.
truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/65871-russia-presents-evidence-against-us-uk-and-israel-as-being-the-actual-9-11-terrorist.html#178429


.... and about the holocaust (TM) and their war crimes against Germans and the Holodomor ....





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Lying sack of shit. The US deliberately fire bombed hundreds of thousands of people in Tokyo and burnt them to death in their homes and called that "the Good War" and a good deed as they saved giving out thousands of bravery medals to those who would have died in a ground assault.

The US has been deliberately killing millions of innocent people for over a century.



Slaughtered, raped, burnt alive .... millions and millions and millions WORLDWIDE
and they did not stop up to this day !

This is the main difference between USA and Russia.



=> Geopolitics - War in Europe


=> Scorched Earth Policy - Heartland



More truth to read and learn for you, warnik et al.:

- truth-zone.net/forum/history/65497-america-s-deadliest-export-democracy-william-blum-the-truth-about-us-foreign-policy-and-everything-else.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/general-discussion/63386-what-to-do-with-germany.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/60509-un-what-is-this-who-created-it-how-when-and-for-what-reason.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/secret-societies-and-powerful-families/65184-the-religious-origins-of-globalism.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/history/62000-yugoslav-wars.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/64612-the-hidden-tyranny-harold-wallace-rosenthal.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63907-has-america-ceased-to-exist.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63577-eu-elections-pest-cholera-in-new-babylon.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/anthropology/65592-europeans-of-the-world-time-to-come-home.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/secret-societies-and-powerful-families/64739-2015-year-of-coudenhove-kalergi-s-dream-come-true.html
- truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/63994-the-nsu-pink-panther-false-flag-national-socialist-underground-debunked-graphic.html


All interconnected and interwoven and if you follow the strings you will end up at the source of this misery.

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USA Bombing Hospitals Again ... 16 Oct 2015 13:00 #39

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US forces in Afghanistan knew Kunduz site was hospital - report

Published time: 15 Oct, 2015 18:10



The damaged hospital in which the Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) medical charity operated is seen on October 13, 2015 following an air strike in the northern city of Kunduz. © STR / AFP

New information suggests the US deliberately targeted the Kunduz hospital, killing 22 patients and staff, despite knowing it was a protected medical site.

US special operations analysts investigated the hospital for days prior to the deadly October 3 attack, describing the hospital as a base of operations for a Pakistani agent coordinating Taliban activities, AP has learned from a former intelligence official familiar with the documents.

The site, operated by Doctors Without Borders (Medecins Sans Frontieres, MSF), was attacked five times in the span of an hour by a C-130 gunship, despite repeated pleas by the MSF to US forces. MSF officials described repeated strafing runs against the main hospital building, which housed the emergency room and the intensive care unit. No surrounding buildings were hit, they say.

The new details suggest "that the hospital was intentionally targeted,”Meinie Nicolai of MSF told the AP by email. “This would amount to a premeditated massacre,” she added.

According to AP's source, intelligence reports suggested the hospital was being used as a Taliban command and control center and a repository for heavy weapons. MSF insists that no weapons were allowed in the hospital. While the US military has claimed that US and Afghan forces came under fire from the hospital, Afghan hospital employees told AP that no one had fired from the building

MSF staff "reported a calm night and that there were no armed combatants, nor active fighting in or from the compound prior to the airstrikes,"Nicolai told AP.

The US military initially reported the air strike was conducted “in the vicinity” of the MSF medical facility, targeting the Taliban who were fighting US and Afghan forces, and that the strike “may have resulted in collateral damage “ to the hospital.

Two days later, General John F. Campbell, commander of the US forces in Afghanistan, said the Afghan forces had requested air support because “they were taking fire from enemy positions” and said that "several civilians were accidentally struck” in the air strike.



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Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee the following day, however, Campbell described the strike as a decision by US officers, adding there was a special operations unit in the area that was in contact with the gunship. “A hospital was mistakenly struck. We would never intentionally target a protected medical facility," he said.

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USrael bombing hospitals and then accusing Russia of bombing hospitals ....


Whose usual tactic is this since at least 1945?!


Just another proof for who is ruling in the starry red house.



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