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TOPIC: There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941

There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 16 Apr 2016 01:02 #1



Despite the bomber flights shopped onto this pic, US anti aircraft gunners on Diamond Head said there were no enemy aircraft at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 - Source: MovieTone News, in a clip that appeared to have been filmed on location the same day, that was included in the first cut of 911 hit piece Loose Change!



Despite the smoke and the sunken ships, sailors shootin' the breeze and others just getting on with their business, says they were in no way concerned a hostile attack by a foreign power had taken place!



Wheeler Army Air Field, December 7, 1941, smoke coming from planes on a row of undamaged aircraft, upwind of a conflagration of other burning planes, and no blast damage or bomb craters anywhere, says the aircraft were deliberately set alight at ground level.



No one appears to be at action stations, despite the undamaged battleship should be an obvious target for enemy bombers, while spectators wandering around, fails to assert a force of some hundreds of enemy planes is at large!


Pearl Harbor

No one appears to be too concerned, spectators are cramming every vantage point on an as yet undamaged vessel, surely if an attack were underway it would be the last place to be!

Pearl Harbor ..

Officially, beginning at 06:00 hours the first wave of 183 fighters and torpedo bombers, struck at the fleet in Pearl Harbor, and the airfields in Hickam, Kaneohe and Ewa.

The second strike launched at 07:15 hours, consisted of 167 aircraft which struck at the same targets, at 07:53 hours the next wave consisting of 40 Nakajima B5N2 Kate" torpedo bombers, 51 Aichi D3A1 "Val" dive bombers, 50 high Altitude bombers, and 43 Zeros, struck at airfields and at Pearl Harbor.

US Casualties:

USA : 218 KIA, 364 WIA.

USN: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA.

USMC: 109 KIA, 69 WIA.

Civilians: 68 KIA, 35 WIA.

TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA.

Battleships

USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her magazine.

USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss when she capsized and sunk in the harbor.

USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.

USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired.

USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later repaired.

USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage.

USS Maryland (BB-46) - Light damage.

USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage.

USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) - Sunk.

Cruisers

USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage..

USS San Francisco (CA-38) - Light Damage.

USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage.

USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired.

USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage.

USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage..

Destroyers

USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged.

USS Cassin - (DD-372) Destroyed. Parts salvaged.

USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage.

USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage.

Minelayer

USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.

Seaplane Tender

USS Curtiss (AV-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.

Repair Ship

USS Vestal (AR-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired.

Harbor Tug

USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired.

Aircraft

188 Aircraft destroyed (92 USN and 92 U.S Army Air Corps.)
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 16 Apr 2016 01:08 #2

Update ..



http://www.commandposts.com/2011/12/december-7-1941-pearl-harbor-in-images/k13512-copy/

USS Arizona (BB-39) ablaze, immediately following the explosion of her forward magazines, 7 December 1941. Frame clipped from a color motion picture taken from on board USS Solace (AH-5). Official U.S. Navy Photograph, National Archives collection. Caption: Naval History & Heritage Command.


http://www.thehistoryreader.com/modern-history/december-7-1941-pearl-harbour-images/

Sailors stand amid wrecked planes at the Ford Island seaplane base, watching as USS Shaw (DD-373) explodes in the center background, 7 December 1941. USS Nevada (BB-36) is also visible in the middle background, with her bow headed toward the left.

Planes present include PBY, OS2U and SOC types. Wrecked wing in the foreground is from a PBY. Official U.S. Navy Photograph, National Archives Collection. Caption: Naval History & Heritage Command.

The fact the sailors were standing and not under cover similarly belies the notion an enemy attack had taken place, and that a force of some hundreds of hostile aircraft is at large!



Just as PH was a precursor to 911, so was the False Flag 1898 USS Maine incident in Havana Harbor that caused war between the US & Spain a precursor to PH.

The Jew owned press beat the drums of war in relation to all three FF events, where after President Roosevelt declared war on Japan Dec. 7, 1941, Hitler & Mussolini declared war on the US December 11, 1941.

As well we know all political appointments world wide are at the behest of Jews, that Adolf Hitler was a Jew and that Mussolini was a Jew tool, no less than Obama and Cameron are now, that the Jew owned media delivers encomiums on behalf of traitors and scoundrels to get them elected, where after they toe the Zionist line.





Which is why JFK Assassination truth and 911 Truth are left to citizen journalists.
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 26 Oct 2017 19:57 #3

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http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/the-white-house-announced-that-japanese-planes-attacked-news-photo/517729922?#the-white-house-announced-that-japanese-planes-attacked-hawaii-soon-picture-id517729922

Re: OP..... :iitm:

The planes are described on the Getty Image site as US medium bombers arriving at Pearl Harbour AFTER and in response to the Jap attack
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 26 Oct 2017 22:58 #4

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The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 27 Oct 2017 06:49 #5

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Exorcist wrote:


http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/the-white-house-announced-that-japanese-planes-attacked-news-photo/517729922?#the-white-house-announced-that-japanese-planes-attacked-hawaii-soon-picture-id517729922

Re: OP..... :iitm:

The planes are described on the Getty Image site as US medium bombers arriving at Pearl Harbour AFTER and in response to the Jap attack

I wonder why the US military 'response' was to send bombers, surely what was needed was fighter planes to shoot down a possible second attack, on Hawaii, not bombers?
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 27 Oct 2017 12:03 #6

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@ rodin

I am aware of "this". My point was that, after his Bull$hit Alien Artifacts posts on the $hit resolution "supposedly genuine" NA$A Mars Rover images, Martin Timothy is the last person I would trust to interpret a photograph correctly.

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With the exception of Frothy.....he's even fkn' worse........ :chuckle:

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Almost forgot........."Everything is fake" Gaia......... :D
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 27 Oct 2017 17:38 #7

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Yup right, with your 2D measurements of a 3D image...

LOL you focus on a still film of a 3D image and measure across the 2D plain of the film to give a false reading, and you still can't comprehend your error to this day, after it's been pointed out to you time and again? Either you're thick or purposefully spreading disinformation here.

Total buffoon either way! I don't know why novum permits your obvious lies, which are only backed up by your trolling as per your above post here, very strange indeed!!!

When you're not lying you're trolling. What else do you have to offer except posting disinformation and trolling the place, swinging from thread to thread like a demented gibbon?
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 27 Oct 2017 17:51 #8

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RottenAr$e said:
I wonder why the US military 'response' was to send bombers, surely what was needed was fighter planes to shoot down a possible second attack, on Hawaii, not bombers?

A more pertinent question is "If the Japs didn't attack Pearl Harbour and it was an (((Inside Job False Flag))) why didn't the Japs deny the attack?

IMO
1)The USA at the behest of their (((Financial Controllers))) provoked Japan by restricting Coal/Oil/Steel supplies.

2)The Japanese were "ego"ed on and supported by the same (((Financial Controllers))) to attack the USA influenced by their successful Manchurian Wars, conquests and military prowess.

3) The USA (((Controllers))) were aware of the coming attack and allowed it to happen to provide justification for the USA entering the War.
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 27 Oct 2017 17:55 #9

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A more pertinent question is "If the Japs didn't attack Pearl Harbour and it was an (((Inside Job False Flag))) why didn't the Japs deny the attack?

Maybe they were tortured like the Germans were after the holocaust as they didn't deny that either... :dunno:
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 28 Oct 2017 02:33 #10

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Martin Timothy is the last person I would trust to interpret a photograph correctly..

Right on, I do JFK assassination and 911 truth as well.


www.dockersunion.net/vb/showthread.php?5-A-Cruise-Missile-Slammed-Into-the-Pentagon-on-911&p=5#post5

See if you can see a cruise missile slam into the Pentagon Sept. 11, 2001 in an attack blamed on a mad Arab in a Boeing 757.


www.dockersunion.net/vb/showthread.php?680-The-Assassination-of-John-F-Kennedy-Expanded&p=1826#post1826

Then see if you can see Martin Luther & Coretta King, Black Secret Service op Abraham Bolden and Andy Warhol standing with shooters on the Grassy Knoll, in Dallas Texas, Nov. 22, 1963 the day President John Kennedy was murdered.

If you can see neither of those things you should expect an indictment from the US Justice Dept. to be delivered to yr door, requiring you to answer charges of capital conspiracy in relation to both outrages.

I reckon my perception is ok.
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The cruise missile seems a bit big but perhaps they come in a variety of sizes I don't know, but it dips down a few feet prior to impact, and it seems to be coming form the building opposite the Pentagon?

As for the JFK photo I don't see a cop using a ''shotgun'' and why on earth would one do so, they're hardly as accurate as a rifle?
I've zoomed in on the photos as far as Goggle zoom will go, one of them does look like Andy Warhol but that does not mean that it is Andy Warhol.

On the other part I can't see anyone there at all, just blurs, so I don't know how you can be so confident that these things are as you seem to be agreeing that they are? Maybe I need to get my eyes tested because other than the one that looks like Andy Warhol, I can't recognise anything except random blurs that we could say are Buggs Bunny and Daffy Duck!
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 28 Oct 2017 06:49 #12

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Buggs Bunny and Daffy Duck?

Well you have disqualified y'self as a jurist in any case.
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Martin Timothy wrote:
Bobby Batter wrote:
Buggs Bunny and Daffy Duck?

Well you have disqualified y'self as a jurist in any case.

Andy Warhol (or anyone that resembles him) is not being accused of having anything to do with the killing of JFK, but if a jurist were to state that this image is of people xyz would they be taken seriously? Really?



Would you really yell guilty based on that 'evidence' :dunno:

Please point out Martin Luther King on the image there?
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 28 Oct 2017 20:24 #14

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Bobby Batter wrote:
The cruise missile seems a bit big but perhaps they come in a variety of sizes I don't know, but it dips down a few feet prior to impact, and it seems to be coming form the building opposite the Pentagon?
Yes, they come in many different sizes. There are sizes none of us even heard of.
A lot of eyewitnesses have stated that they saw the explosion but no planes on pentagon and WTC.
..but if it's true, you should believe it.
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 30 Oct 2017 13:33 #15

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RottenAr$e said:
I wonder why the US military 'response' was to send bombers, surely what was needed was fighter planes to shoot down a possible second attack, on Hawaii, not bombers?

A more pertinent question is "If the Japs didn't attack Pearl Harbour and it was an (((Inside Job False Flag))) why didn't the Japs deny the attack?

IMO
1)The USA at the behest of their (((Financial Controllers))) provoked Japan by restricting Coal/Oil/Steel supplies.

2)The Japanese were "ego"ed on and supported by the same (((Financial Controllers))) to attack the USA influenced by their successful Manchurian Wars, conquests and military prowess.

3) The USA (((Controllers))) were aware of the coming attack and allowed it to happen to provide justification for the USA entering the War.

The following book, The Zionists by Geo. W. Armstrong is an essential "must read":


https://ia800204.us.archive.org/29/items/TheZionists/52755613-Armstrong-The-Zionists-roots-of-zionism-1950.pdf

It postulates Japan was provoked into the attack, (((Roosevelt & Co))). knew about it and allowed it to happen. See Page 115 regarding Pearl Harbour.
ROOSEVELT BROUGHT ABOUT PEARL HARBOR DISASTER

The investigation, however, did reveal that the Washington high command had actual notice of the Pearl Harbor attack two days prior thereto and in ample time to prevent the disaster. It revealed also that Admiral Kimmel and General Short were not guilty of negligence despite the fact that they had been officially and unjustly accused by President Roosevelt's board of inquiry headed by Justice Roberts. You can not escape the conclusion that President Roosevelt had actual knowledge of the "winds" messages and of the planned attack and that Admiral Kimmel and General Short were not notified because the President wanted the attack made and the fleet destroyed as a means of arousing the Congress and the people to war. You must conclude also that in order to escape responsibility he sought to put the blame on Admiral Kimmel and General Short.

The committee headed by the shrewd Alben Barkley gave us the third whitewash, but the truth, like Banquo's ghost, will not down. The American people want the truth and they are entitled to have it whether it reflects on "the living or the dead." They want an impartial, judicial investigation, and not a biased political one. Senators Ferguson and Brewster, republican members of the Pearl Harbor senate investigating committee, sought to develop the truth about the Pearl Harbor disaster. They desired the correspondence, memoranda, reports, etc., of Roosevelt, Morgenthau, Stimson, Ickes and Harry Hopkins, and found that they had all disappeared. It is probable that the incriminating parts of them have been destroyed.

Senator Ferguson said: "Some 900 volumes—not pages or papers, but volumes — of memoranda, photostats, correspondence, reports and transcripts of conferences can hardly be classed as fragmentary data ordinarily used to refresh a weak memory. Nor is it possible to conceive how an official so busy with public affairs as was Mr. Morgenthau could find time to accumulate 900 volumes of purely personal data.
Even Colonel House, who had plenty of time unburdened by the cares of public office, and who kept a methodical diary for a great many years in the stirring times of Wood-row Wilson, barely squeezed out two volumes of data and reminiscences.

The Morgenthau material, so far as we know, is exceeded only by the boxcars of public papers said to have been removed by Franklin D. Roosevelt to the self-created shrine at Hyde Park."* It was Morgenthau's claim that these 900 volumes were his personal diary and that he was entitled to them. Think of it a moment: 900 volumes containing an estimated 60,000,000 words of personal notes, and that this huge quantity was exceeded by the "box-car of public papers ... removed by Franklin D. Roosevelt to his 'shrine' at Hyde Park." It is an obvious lying excuse for the theft of public property. A man who will steal and lie about it is capable of the Pearl Harbor disaster. And why should he have done so if he was not afraid of the truth? And who would commit these thefts except a communist? Senator Alben Barkley, chairman of a former Pearl Harbor investigating committee, and Senator red-Pepper defended Morgenthau, et al.**
Congressional Record, February 11, 1947, page 1017. **Congressional Record, February 11, 1947, pages 1017-27.

Still no answer to my pertinent question.


"If the Japs didn't attack Pearl Harbour and it was an (((Inside Job False Flag))) why didn't the Japs deny the attack?"
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There Were No Japanese Planes at Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941 18 May 2018 15:34 #16

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What about this? The peace talks were crumbling by about the 5th December? So from either the 1st or 4th and onwards, I suppose the USA had planes patrolling the island and Pearl Harbour. Why were they not patrolling on the day of the attack???

Also remember Lindberghs warning of "the US had to create incidents"....FALSE FLAGS?





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It went by in silence, but we had the "anniversary" of "Pearl Harbor", just days ago.

Another good podcast by Tim Kelly and Joe Atwill about that "fatal" day:



The Rudyard Kipling poem they talk about:
The Burden of Jerusalem

Rudyard Kipling

A practically unknown poem by Rudyard Kipling which Winston Churchill strove to keep secret. A copy of the unpublished private edition was given to Franklin Delano Roosevelt in October 1943, with instructions not to make the gift public.

Cryptos, all of them of course.
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