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Poll: POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam?

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TOPIC: POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam?

POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 14 Apr 2017 12:53 #101

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Phizz's favourite Jazz composer has to be Jelly Roll Morton........ :joker: ..... :larf:
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 14 Apr 2017 13:18 #102

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Exorcist wrote:
Phizz's favourite Jazz composer has to be Jelly Roll Morton........ :joker: ..... :larf:
www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/%5Bfizzog%5D.html


"Jelly Roll" is African-American slang for female genitalia.
Why don't you start a thread for jokes on female genitalia only, Nick Gaga?
This is an all inclusive forum, so nobody cares if you are addicted to or feel repelled by the latter.

But this is the second troll post by you in a row on this thread and another troll post elsewhere,
so you certainly seem to feel attracted to threads I started, for one reason or another.

:wissl: :D
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 14 Apr 2017 13:55 #103

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I had no idea of this interpretation of Jelly Roll. I was referring to the Phiz/Cinta type wrestling match in a tub of jelly covered in a previous post.
IIRC Nov was sponsering the event. I merely asked to be referee.......... :P ...... :chuckle:

https://truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/64716-the-vent-and-the-furious.html?start=2480#147508
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 16 Apr 2017 23:41 #104

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Exorcist wrote:
I had no idea of this interpretation of Jelly Roll. I was referring to the Phiz/Cinta type wrestling match in a tub of jelly covered in a previous post.
IIRC Nov was sponsering the event. I merely asked to be referee.......... :P ...... :chuckle:

https://truth-zone.net/forum/public-vent-room/64716-the-vent-and-the-furious.html?start=2480#147508



Very convincing response! :chuckle:

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Alpha - Beta - Gamma - Delta ... Omega ? This is the MEN thread!
"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 16 Apr 2017 23:46 #105

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If elections could really change anything, they would be banned.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 07 May 2017 08:40 #106

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"There is no political solution."

"You can't use the system to break the system. The system won't allow that."
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:right: "The election is nothing more than a reality tv show." ff
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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

Johannes Lang "The Hollow World Theory" Blog
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 11 May 2017 12:03 #107

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Seems timely to elucidate the Divide+Rule in the UK. Within living memory, it's essentially been a polarity: Conservatives v Labour i.e. Employers v Employees.

Note that Employers don't necessarily own the business, they might be in Management or other more senior well-paid positions. Typically they can afford to live fairly comfortably, rather than being on subsistence wages. The real giveaway is that their employment seems to be "looked after" and is not obviously based on competence.

The Labour party have their roots in the Trade Union movement and Socialism. That is to say, Workers contributed to organised groups to try and improve conditions and make communal infrastructure (hospitals, pensions and the like). Unfortunately this seems to of been mostly parasited and organisations like the NHS seem to now be Employers.

The Conservatives are also known as The Tories. Apparently this is a reference to those who supported the British Establishment during American Independence, but I'm not too sure about where that came from?
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 11 May 2017 13:46 #108

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Politically I think Conservative is suppose to be the antonym of Liberal; whereas Liberal means generous with freedom, Conservative would be cautious, sparing, somewhat tight-fisted. To conserve is to keep, maintain or preserve (like a jam or a conservation area). What is it they are trying to conserve; public spending or maybe preserve status?

I like to look at how words are made-up, the spelling, so-to-speak. Splitting the syllables you get Con-Serve or Con-Serve-at-ive. A con is a trick or deception. The later bit seems to be about servitude and where/who it comes from.

Labour is seemingly all about work and exertion, but whose? Labe-Our or perhaps Lab-Or. Labs or Laboratories are of course places of Labor, but I think the Labe is like Label i.e. a brand or logo. Group ownership is indicated by Our i.e. belonging to Us whereas Or would be an exclusive (boolean) choice.
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 11 May 2017 14:48 #109

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Welcome to TZ monk.link. :)
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 12 May 2017 13:13 #110

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Thanks novum. :thumbup: Thought I'd try an image with this one.

The one on the right is from the 2015 election; there's an obvious correlation between the size and colour. Aunty is starting to use maps with Hex counters now to try and make this less obvious.
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 12 May 2017 16:16 #111

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This is from the 2011 census.

Remarkable correlation with the above Results don't you think?
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 13 May 2017 08:54 #112

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So imagine a political party, called CityWifi, who promise free WiFi within cities. Obviously attractive to those living and working in the cities, but of no direct benefit to those outside.

Democracy is majority-rule, right, so because the majority of the population are in the cities, CityWifi have a good chance?

Wrong! Remember every city is surrounded by satellite villages. While CityWifi can easily get a 10,000 majority in the city, that doesn't count any more than a rural seat won with a majority of just 10. Lots of marginal majorities get dominance over the few big ones.
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 16 May 2017 11:42 #113

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They started pre-school with: "What's your name?", "How old are you?", "Where are you from?"

Later they teach you that "X marks the spot" (on a map where the treasure's hidden)
Talented "Stars" have the X-Factor
It's multiple-choice, just put an X against the right answer

But what about the "X in the hypnotic Hex"???
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 16 May 2017 17:08 #114

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monk.link wrote:
So imagine a political party, called CityWifi, who promise free WiFi within cities. Obviously attractive to those living and working in the cities, but of no direct benefit to those outside.

Democracy is majority-rule, right, so because the majority of the population are in the cities, CityWifi have a good chance?

Wrong! Remember every city is surrounded by satellite villages. While CityWifi can easily get a 10,000 majority in the city, that doesn't count any more than a rural seat won with a majority of just 10. Lots of marginal majorities get dominance over the few big ones.

A majority is just that.
In our (UK) electoral system the candidate who gains the most votes wins and the party with most members leads at each of our four tiers of governance.
At a national level it doesn't matter whether a voter lives in a city or not.
The UK is divided up into constituencies each with around 112,000 electors.
Our constituency here covers a massive area as we are a rural and low population area.
City constituencies are relatively small in area as cities have a high population.
Each constituency elects one MP.
There is no imbalance favouring either cities, towns, villages or deeply rural countryside.
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 16 May 2017 19:38 #115

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Obviously randomly distributed rather than evenly spread (see 2011 population map above) :roll:
source: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2015UKElectionMap.svg
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 17 May 2017 09:52 #116

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In 2012, in North Carolina, a majority of votes were for Democratic candidates, yet only 4 of the state's 13 districts had a Democratic winner. This motivated mathematicians Jonathan Mattingly & Christy Vaughn to write a computer model for drawing districts and approximating their probability (randomness).

The rules were basically that each of the 13 divisions had to have equal population, be "compact and simply connected" (e.g. not surrounding another). 100 of them were then used with the actual votes cast and resulted in between 6 and 9 Democratic candidates. Most had 7-8 candidates, i.e. almost double those in the actual election outcome.

arxiv.org/abs/1410.8796
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 17 May 2017 11:09 #117

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Simply getting yourself elected will not make a real change in the government and how it is run. Case in point, O Bomb A, or Slick Willie; two people who believed they could make a change by getting elected only to learn that their lives depended on them not making any real change. Those in the $y$tem have been telling us this for almost 50 years now, “if you don’t like the system, get yourself elected and change it from within.” Just ask the two mentioned above how that worked out for them. No. It will never happen. The only way to make a real substantial change is to simply take back the country from these treasonous politicians and bankers and institute a radical change that will actually feel and look like real change. This would have to be on the scale as seen in Naomi Klein’s, “Shock Doctrine”.

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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 17 May 2017 14:07 #118

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monk.link wrote:

Obviously randomly distributed rather than evenly spread (see 2011 population map above) :roll:
source: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2015UKElectionMap.svg

Nope.
Our Electoral Commission draws up constituency boundaries around populations of about 112,000 voters.
Those large constituency areas on your map denote low population areas.
You can see by looking at London, which is densley populated, that it has many small area constituencies.
Your revolutionary point is well made.
A political system or regime can be changed democratically from within or from without via a revolution.
Either way , when the election is over or the revolution has been ''won' you still end up with people in charge.
By and large, revolutionary leaders end up as absolute-dictators 'for life' whereas with democracy we get to vote for representatives every five years or so.
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 18 May 2017 08:28 #119

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Watch this first...

Just as Samuel is whipped for articulating the realities of the plantation, so those who reveal the fallacies of the present day system are labelled Anarchists and Revolutionaries (who threaten the welfare of the entire group :roll:). It's a cheap shot. You'd have thought that if the principles on which these systems are purportedly based mean't a damn thing, they'd welcome progress.
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POLL: Elections - Referendums - etc. - Real or Scam? 21 May 2017 15:10 #120

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Define your version of 'progress' please.
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