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TOPIC: What is Fascism? An Ideology explained

What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 22 Jan 2017 23:58 #41

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"Everyone who disagrees with me or my dreamt fascism needs to be exterminated"

If you can't win the debate, then just resort to trolling (distortion in this case) again ey? :larf:
How old are you mentally? 12?

Could you point out the post where I said that 'everyone who disagrees with me needs to be exterminated' ?

Topicname + postnumber pls. :thumbup:
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 23 Jan 2017 00:36 #42

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Whatever Hitler's policies were, if he was a nice guy or not, if he was Jewish or not, how religious he was or wasn't, what could have been, what should have been, what might have been are all irrelevant. What is relevant are the results of his "leadership".
He got millions of people killed, he got millions of Germans killed, he got the country that he was "leading" destroyed and he enabled the Jews more than anyone since Moses when came down from the mountain with his ten suggestions.
He took a vulnerable people who were still suffering from the results of the first world war and conned them into starting a second one which they lost badly. The results got National Socialism branded as evil and no amount of justifying, apologizing or rationalizing is going to change that.
Some of the ideas he pushed had merit but that merit was obscured by the destruction his other policies caused.
Discussing Hitler ad nauseum is not going to bring back the Third Reich or begin a fourth. Advocating the destruction of a race or races will not bring back those very brief glory days of Hitler's reign. Warring on ones neighbors isn't going to either.
Intelligent, rational discussion of the policies that worked and can still work today and rejecting the policies that didn't work are the only way forward for that particular political system. Someday, maybe some of those ideas will again take hold but if the world gets even a whiff of an idea that it's National Socialism or if it gets labeled as such they will stomp it like a bug.
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 23 Jan 2017 00:42 #43

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Guessed wrote:
Whatever Hitler's policies were, if he was a nice guy or not, if he was Jewish or not, how religious he was or wasn't, what could have been, what should have been, what might have been are all irrelevant. What is relevant are the results of his "leadership".
He got millions of people killed, he got millions of Germans killed, he got the country that he was "leading" destroyed and he enabled the Jews more than anyone since Moses when came down from the mountain with his ten suggestions.
He took a vulnerable people who were still suffering from the results of the first world war and conned them into starting a second one which they lost badly. The results got National Socialism branded as evil and no amount of justifying, apologizing or rationalizing is going to change that.
Some of the ideas he pushed had merit but that merit was obscured by the destruction his other policies caused.
Discussing Hitler ad nauseum is not going to bring back the Third Reich or begin a fourth. Advocating the destruction of a race or races will not bring back those very brief glory days of Hitler's reign. Warring on ones neighbors isn't going to either.
Intelligent, rational discussion of the policies that worked and can still work today and rejecting the policies that didn't work are the only way forward for that particular political system. Someday, maybe some of those ideas will again take hold but if the world gets even a whiff of an idea that it's National Socialism or if it gets labeled as such they will stomp it like a bug.

Nope, that's not how it went down.

Hitler actually freed his people from the international banking cartel by printing their own interest-free money.

What else should he have done? Do nothing about the banking system and watch his nation turn into communism?

Obviously, world-jewry didn't like that and immediately declared war on Germany in 1933 already, as Germany got set up for destruction.

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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 23 Jan 2017 01:04 #44

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@ Guessed

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That was in 1934 already, 1 year after Hitler came into power.

Hitler in return sent approx. 22 peace offers to the world. Even when England started bombing Germany, Hitler sent bombers to England in return to drop peace leaflets over London:

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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 23 Feb 2017 11:10 #45

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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 23 Feb 2017 23:44 #46

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WHAT IS FASCISM?
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Political radicals often shout, "Fascist!", "Fascist!" at anyone who doesn't agree with their views. The term is especially popular among college students. But do such people actually know what Fascism is? Have they studied it?



Unfortunately, Fascism has an undeserved bad reputation. Regardless of this reputation, Fascism is a very sensible economic and social ideology. There are a few different "flavors" of Fascism, but basically they all come down to the following.

First and foremost, Fascism is an economic system in which a nation's government plays a central role in monitoring all banking, trade, production, and labor activity which takes place within the nation. Such monitoring is done for the sole purpose of safeguarding & advancing the nation and its people.
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Under Fascism, the government will not approve of any business activity unless that business has a positive impact on the nation as a whole and the people of the nation - this is the axiom which determines everything within the economic aspect of Fascism.

In other words, the government asks, "Is XYZ Enterprises good for our nation and our people?" If yes, it's approved. If no, it's not approved. When they ask, "Is it good?", they mean, "Is XYZ Enterprises good for the workers, do they pay a fair wage, do they produce a product or provide a service which advances our nation & our people technologically, morally, spiritually, health-wise, etc???"


Fascism values professionals and "Blue Collar" workers equally and, unlike Marxism, promotes harmony between them.

For example, a pornography company would not be allowed because pornography corrupts people generally and exploits & degrades women particularly. Also, "free" trade agreements (such as what the U.S. has with China) would never be allowed because such trade agreements result in companies sending jobs overseas (where labor is dirt cheap). Such an activity, of course, would undermine a nation's labor class. This is entirely unacceptable and thus not allowed under a Fascist economic model.


German National Socialists burn pornographic and Communist books.

Fascism is based on free enterprise - but with constraints (the primary constraint being, "Is the particular economic activity in question good for our nation/people?"). Also, a businessman can become wealthy in a Fascist country, and the government has no objection to this (this is in stark contrast to Communism). Fascism also encourages private ownership of property (again, in stark contrast to Communism where private property is not allowed).



1: Hitler and Ferdinand Porsche conceived the Volkswagen. 2: Fascist Germany decorated American businessman and auto pioneer Henry Ford

In a nutshell, Fascism basically tells entrepreneurs, "Go ahead and start a business, earn a lot of money, be successful, but don't produce any products or services which damage our nation and our nation's people... and make sure you treat your workers fair and pay them a living wage. If you don't follow these rules, we'll shut you down." 

With regard to banking, usury is not allowed under Fascism. The government tightly controls all aspects of monetary policy, including terms of lending. The government issues/prints money and lends it interest free, as needed, to grow the economy and ultimately serve the citizens.



Germany's debt-free Fascist Mark was the strongest currency in the world.

The above is the economic aspect of Fascism. There is also a cultural/social aspect to Fascism as well. Under Fascism, government plays a key role in monitoring: film, theatre, art, literature, music, education, etc in order to maintain a high moral standard, keep things clean and respectable, promote a strong sense of patriotism and honor, and prevent the dissemination of depraved filth which corrupts society.



Fascist Youth: Fit and clean. Fascist Art...REAL Art!

With regard to political legislation introduced by a Fascist government, the same criteria is applied - "Will this proposed law benefit the nation as a whole and the people of our nation?"
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A few other things to mention. Fascism encourages respect for the environment as Fascists understand that nature is the giver of life and thus must be preserved. Contrast this environmental philosophy with that of Capitalism which too often takes the short term view with regard to natural resources and foolishly believes that pollution is a necessary byproduct of profit. Also, and somewhat related to environmental issues, Fascism holds very progressive views with regard to animal rights.



Also, under Fascism, if a person doesn't like things, he/she can leave the country. Contrast this with Communism where if you don't like things, you better keep your mouth shut. And, of course, there is no option to leave the country. You will submit or else be sent to a re-education camp where you'll be brainwashed to accept the Communist system. And if you still resist, you'll probably be killed. Again, there is no leaving. Submit or suffer the consequences.

Further, Fascism holds women in very high regard. Women are the carriers of new life. They are expected to be educated, worldly, and well read. Women are encouraged to pursue their interests and have a career but only if a career won't interfere with their family's needs; family comes first, always.




Women are encouraged to be strong yet feminine. Consistent with these ideas, Fascist art often portrays women as heroic and even goddess-like.



In short, Fascism is a form of government & social system which authentically serves the interests of the people and nation as a whole. The word "Fascism" comes from the Italian word "fascio" meaning "the group" or more specifically, "in consideration of the group." Fascism is rooted in the notion that people must stay true to two mental concepts throughout their lives: 1) the individual's needs (themselves) and, 2) the group's needs (their nation)... always evaluating how their individual actions affect the group.
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Thus Fascism rejects the self-centered "me me me" mentality so common under Capitalism. For example, in a Fascist nation each person is expected to maintain a healthy diet & lifestyle. For if not, they may become seriously ill and thus require expensive health care; this would negatively impact the group (i.e., they'd become a financial burden on the nation).

Continuing this line of thought, under Fascism all people of one's ethnicity are considered the greater family of that person. Hence, a Fascist nation is thought of as one giant family of several million people. Therefore, just as one mustn't do anything to hurt their brother or sister in their immediate family, under Fascism one mustn't do anything which would hurt the nation/group (i.e., the greater family). This is the essence of Fascism - a strong consideration of the group balanced with individualism.  



One big happy family

During the German Third Reich, the NSDAP (i.e., "Nazis") followed all aspects of the above described Fascist system.

ASIDE: Although the economic aspect of Fascism is free-market based, Fascism is NOT Capitalism. Many on the political left wrongly equate Fascism with Capitalism. Again, Fascism is NOT Capitalism. Allow me to briefly explain: the primary goal of Capitalism is profit. On the other hand, the primary goal of Fascism is the well being of a nation's citizens and well being of the nation as a whole. In a purist-type Capitalist country (i.e., Super-Capitalism) almost nothing can interfere with maximizing profits - not workers, not the environment... almost nothing.
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Even when a Capitalist country starts out with tight government regulations, it invariably moves towards Laissez-faire economics (i.e., Super-Capitalism) by way of less and less government regulation. Human greed drives this transformation and ultimately the working class suffer via lower wages or loss of employment altogether if their job is, say, transferred overseas, where labor is dirt cheap.

Capitalists believe that immense wealth at the top will "trickle down" to the masses i.e., that everything will magically work itself out. A certain amount of wealth does "trickle down" but, too often, the worker and environment suffer. As just one example, tens of millions of American manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas during the past two decades (Capitalist so-called "free" trade policies have allowed for such outsourcing of jobs).  Of course then, just as Fascists reject Communism, they also reject Capitalism.
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 24 Feb 2017 14:51 #47

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Fascism is not an idealogy, but a state of mind. It belongs in the same realm as cult or religion.

The Fascist conception of life is a religious one, in which man is viewed in his immanent relation to a higher law, endowed with an objective will transcending the individual and raising him to conscious membership of a spiritual society.
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 24 Feb 2017 16:41 #48

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paddy_blake wrote:
Fascism is not an idealogy, but a state of mind. It belongs in the same realm as cult or religion.

The Fascist conception of life is a religious one, in which man is viewed in his immanent relation to a higher law, endowed with an objective will transcending the individual and raising him to conscious membership of a spiritual society.
--Benito Mussolini

Like if liberalism isn't a 'state of mind'. :facepalm:
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paddy_blake wrote:
Fascism is not an idealogy, but a state of mind. It belongs in the same realm as cult or religion.

The Fascist conception of life is a religious one, in which man is viewed in his immanent relation to a higher law, endowed with an objective will transcending the individual and raising him to conscious membership of a spiritual society.
--Benito Mussolini

Like if liberalism isn't a 'state of mind'. :facepalm:

Go ahead and try and create a profile of the 'liberal' state of mind. I'd be interested with what you come up with.
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 24 Feb 2017 17:58 #50

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Go ahead and try and create a profile of the 'liberal' state of mind. I'd be interested with what you come up with.

Here you go sweetheart:

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Yes, they have brains dear, that's the difference.
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 24 Feb 2017 18:23 #52

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Yes, they have brains dear, that's the difference.

Yeah, duh... every human has a brain.

Problem with liberals is that it's filled with ideological garbage coming from the MSM, which keeps them in a dumbed down, low-conscious state of mind so they can't distinguish fact from illusion.
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 07 Mar 2017 22:43 #55

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NATIONAL SOCIALISM IS NOT FASCISM




FASCISM IS FUN [ironic] get it right - it goes along w. NWO






:right: Difference between National-Socialism and Fascism
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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 11 Mar 2017 01:20 #56

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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 11 Mar 2017 14:03 #58

Italy Under Fascism. life and industry in Italy during the Fascist period.

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What is Fascism? An Ideology explained 11 Mar 2017 15:13 #59

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Zorro wrote:
Italy Under Fascism. life and industry in Italy during the Fascist period.


Wow... just wow..

Look at that.

Yet still ppl tend to think it was some kind of ruthless and brutal dictatorship, while the opposite is true.
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Italy Under Fascism. life and industry in Italy during the Fascist period.


Wow... just wow..

Look at that.

Yet still ppl tend to think it was some kind of ruthless and brutal dictatorship, while the opposite is true.

That's right. What people fail to realise is that the fascists had no choice but to get heavy handed with the Communists, as it was the Communists themselves who were using violence and intimidation to try and gain power in the first place. The same as everywhere else in Europe at the time. Spain was no different under Franco. The communists were basically trying to achieve throughout Europe what they had already achieved in Russia and in other parts of Eastern Europe.

We see the radical left doing similar everywhere today, using intimidation and violence, and all the same hollow and meaningless slogans to try and dupe the masses..

People have been taught a completely biased and distorted version of history.
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