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TOPIC: Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps

Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 07:57 #1

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What's your thoughts about the Manus/Nauru Island detention camps, there does not seem to be anything about it on TZ, are you aware of these camps and if so for how long have you been aware of them, what is reportedly going on in them, and the suppression of media coverage etc....?

There seems to be some undercover footage been released here and there, I saw footage of someone that had sewn their mouth shut and heard reports of frequent suicides and people doing other such things as eating laundry powder or razor blades, smashing a fluorescent light tube and then stabbing themselves in the stomach with it. People are being beaten and are suffering psychological torture.

This stuff is being suppressed in the media and posters may not like to post about it on places like this because they don't want to be trolled by the anti immigration brigade, being kept on an island is one thing but the issue is how they are treated when they get there, the last I heard is that the president of these Islands (I guess it's the same guy for both) has banned Facebook because he wants to suppress the information about what's going on there.

The latest article that I read said something about the US and Canada agreeing to take in these asylum seekers from the island detention camps.

The point is, if these detention camps were on main land Australia, then the Australian government would likely be more strongly protested and the media would be all over the shop, so the crux of this crime is in the hiding away of it, and then paying off the president of said islands to ban media coverage, whether or not one agrees with asylum seekers is irrelevant, it's the covertness of what the Australian rule makers are doing that stinks, thus whatever that they are doing, they are getting away with it, but on TZ not a peep?

If this had been occurring on an island off of the British coast I would have known about it and posted about it by now, I only heard about this the other day. Do Australians not know about this? Why have they not posted about it?
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:04 #2

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No i dont know about this.. i dont follow this topic so havent looked at any non mainstream sources.

I found this just now

www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-16/nauru-data-leak-abuse-claims-fabricated-nauru-government-says/7747420

I agree the 'australian government' keeps it offsure to absolve it of obligations sure. Australia could also accomodate a larger population but it seems thats not on the act makers agenda, unlike the americas and europe.
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:10 #3

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The question needs to be asked, if there are no such abuses being carried out, thus the claims are false, why the media suppression?
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:15 #4

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Manus and Nauru: The Inside Story
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:16 #5

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Because the media does as its told and perhaps theyve been told to keep quiet? :wissl:

Nothing makes it into mainstream news that isnt approved, imho.

I guess the govt would like the least attention possible put onto this, true or not.
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:20 #6

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They've been in place for years and supported by both sides of politics. Everybody in Australia knows about them. And largely supports them.

Most Australians totally reject illegal immigration and asylum seekers coming by boat.

These centres detain asylum seekers for months if not years as they are processed and their story and background checked. Most are sent back to where they come from I believe as they are economic migrants who've been duped by people smugglers. Most are not genuine asylum seekers.

These centres plus a policy of the navy meeting boats carrying illegal migrants mid-ocean and turning them back to Indonesia with guns pointed at them has stopped any boats coming to Australia for years.

These policies should be adopted in Europe.

They are supported by the vast majority of Australians and both sides of politics.
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:23 #7

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Rat wrote:

The question needs to be asked, if there are no such abuses being carried out, thus the claims are false, why the media suppression?

The libtard media covers those stories. The national broadcaster the (G)A(Y) BC has its commie mates at the Greens send in accursation after accusation concerning things that occur in those centres.

The majority of the public don't care because they don't want those people in Australia anyway and would rather they f*** off back to where they come from.
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:29 #8

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These policies should be adopted in Europe.

Europe is in the kalergi-spectre cross hairs so they wont be.... different place, different agenda.

Plus i think they want to keep the oz population 'small' for whatever reason(s)
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:49 #9

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The policy seems to be ''if we treat these ones like shit then others won't come.''

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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 08:53 #10

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Orangeaid wrote:
Rat wrote:

The question needs to be asked, if there are no such abuses being carried out, thus the claims are false, why the media suppression?

The libtard media covers those stories. The national broadcaster the (G)A(Y) BC has its commie mates at the Greens send in accursation after accusation concerning things that occur in those centres.

The majority of the public don't care because they don't want those people in Australia anyway and would rather they f*** off back to where they come from.

The ''libtard'' media have to obtain covertly gathered information, the question is, why are media banned from reporting on these detention camps, ie why are media not allowed to film in,or go in these camps, what's the secret?
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 09:01 #11

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Because the media does as its told and perhaps theyve been told to keep quiet? :wissl:

Nothing makes it into mainstream news that isnt approved, imho.

I guess the govt would like the least attention possible put onto this, true or not.

Nope, the media have been told ''You can't come into these centres to report on them''. the media have no choice but to either not report from within the camps or try and get covert film footage, photography, testimony, from the centre guards/workers/detainees. The media have been told that they can only report from outside of the centres.

That stinks, it's also a symptom of guilt, a sort of cover up/denial.

Seems like you're making excuses for a cover up.
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 09:13 #12

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Detainee swallows razor blades.

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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 09:26 #13

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Whoops I stand corrected, there is this tidy up propaganda film ie ''the only time media have been allowed to film in the centre''

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Rat wrote:
Seems like you're making excuses for a cover up.

Nope, ive no reason to do so... ive got nothing to do with any deals the politicians make with the island nations.
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Conditions on Nauru 'like a concentration camp'
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novum wrote:
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Seems like you're making excuses for a cover up.

Nope, ive no reason to do so... ive got nothing to do with any deals the politicians make with the island nations.

The way I see it is however the Australian rule makers decide to deal with asylum seekers, if they are not doing it openly (which they are not) and the asylum seekers are in detention camps, well the obvious conclusion is that they want to treat the asylum seekers poorly but because they know what they're doing would not be accepted internationally, nor by Australians on their own land, they've decided to have a media suppression within the centres with the exception of one propaganda news report only permitted.

I thought a good reason for the point of TZ was to unearth/further expose things like this, yet here it is on your doorstep, and you'd rather discuss how the weather is on the beach where GiMPy walks his dog, on the other side of the world.
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 10:18 #17

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Rat wrote:
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Rat wrote:

The question needs to be asked, if there are no such abuses being carried out, thus the claims are false, why the media suppression?

The libtard media covers those stories. The national broadcaster the (G)A(Y) BC has its commie mates at the Greens send in accursation after accusation concerning things that occur in those centres.

The majority of the public don't care because they don't want those people in Australia anyway and would rather they f*** off back to where they come from.

The ''libtard'' media have to obtain covertly gathered information, the question is, why are media banned from reporting on these detention camps, ie why are media not allowed to film in,or go in these camps, what's the secret?

It's government owned property and government know the libtard media want to shit stir about the minority groups cultural Marxists love to pander to. They will take footage create sensational stories to shit stir against a right wing government that the champagne socialist luvvies hate with a passion. The camps are part of a defence operation so it's perfectly legitimate for media to not be there.

the media is also banned from being near the navy ships when they approach asylum seeking boats.

It's effectively a military operation.

And the libtard media hate it
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Manus/Nauru Island Detention Camps 02 Nov 2016 10:20 #18

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Conditions on Nauru 'like a concentration camp'

And?

It's worked perfectly well to stop illegal people smuggling and human trafficking.

No boats have arrived for a very long time
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This is really really old.

No one forced those Muslims to sew their mouths shut. They did that off their own bat.

They probably were sent back to Afghanistan or Iraq or wherever they came from a long time ago
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novum wrote:
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Seems like you're making excuses for a cover up.

Nope, ive no reason to do so... ive got nothing to do with any deals the politicians make with the island nations.

Nauru was basically bankrupt. It's major industry was phosphate mining because it was basically covered in bird shit.

All the bird shit has been mined and a partner from a major law firm stole a huge chunk of the Naura trust money he was managing for the Nauru government.

Nauru needed the centre and the government money as it was basically broke
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