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Mega cities fact or fiction 08 May 2017 18:13 #1

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Here is a subject I have been following for some time. The talk of all the ghost cities in China laying predominantly empty really makers one think about the following information from Chris Hodges report from a couple of years back.

www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/08/27/the-nightmarish-megacities-of-the-near-future/

More here where 2040 is mentioned.

www.forumforthefuture.org/project/megacities-move/overview

In fact it's now big news and being pushed by the United Nations in a big way, is this the future for us all?
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Mega cities fact or fiction 08 May 2017 18:24 #2

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Would you prefer all the people who would populate these mega-cities to instead compete for land space to try and live like you? How sustainable do you think that environment would be? As strange as it may seem to people who want to live at one with nature, there are people who feel just as at ease in the cities, and who always have the option of visiting the countryside if they need a break.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 08 May 2017 18:44 #3

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ragnarok wrote:
Would you prefer all the people who would populate these mega-cities to instead compete for land space to try and live like you? How sustainable do you think that environment would be? As strange as it may seem to people who want to live at one with nature, there are people who feel just as at ease in the cities, and who always have the option of visiting the countryside if they need a break.

That's an easy question for myself to answer, I like fending for myself, im equipped to do it, we like making a few things for ourselves lots of times from recycled materials as much as we can, our footprint as the new buzz word says is quite low actually.

No car, no tv, no wasteful newspapers or magazines, no next new model fashions or waste of food stuffs, buy food stuffs in bulk and make most meals from scratch. It takes us two months to brim our bin sometimes longer.

The list of things we have made will last us out now with a probable 20 years left and skills the plenty to complement our ways of living, model citizens we have been called by people who know us.

It's just how we have orientated ourselves to be.

One attribute stands out for us here, where are all the resources going to come from to supply a city that cannot possibly function without outside influence. Whether we know it or not but cities produce only a tiny amount of what they need.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 08 May 2017 18:55 #4

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Hydroponic skyscraper farms are one of the ways to provide for such cities. It'd help if we could also be weaned off our addiction to meat, and instead eat it like we used to back in the olden days(pre-farming), ie. once every few days if you were lucky in a hunt.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 08 May 2017 20:23 #5

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Gan Anim wrote:
Here is a subject I have been following for some time. The talk of all the ghost cities in China laying predominantly empty really makers one think about the following information from Chris Hodges report from a couple of years back.

www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/08/27/the-nightmarish-megacities-of-the-near-future/

More here where 2040 is mentioned.

www.forumforthefuture.org/project/megacities-move/overview

In fact it's now big news and being pushed by the United Nations in a big way, is this the future for us all?

Yes indeed Apprentice. Hello.

The British Ministry of Defence published a 202 page document entitled:

Strategic Trends Programme
Global Strategic Trends - Out to 2045


Page 17 .... Urbanisation

"By 2045, there are likely to be around 280 megacities (cities with more than 20 million inhabitants).Many of these could be agglomerations spanning administrative, and in some cases national, boundaries thereby driving integration and changing governance structures.

Europe, for example, may have more than 20 major agglomerations by 2045 – the German Ruhr region, much of the
Netherlands and Belgium could become a single gigantic urban area. The taxation rights of some major cities could make them major
regional or international actors."

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/348164/20140821_DCDC_GST_5_Web_Secured.pdf



I started a thread last year about the document on DIF.

forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062718503
“The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie." Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 10:09 #6

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Which cannot be read if you aren't logged in. Do you want to break down what it is you find disagreeable about this MoD study?
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 10:34 #7

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ragnarok wrote:
Which cannot be read if you aren't logged in. Do you want to break down what it is you find disagreeable about this MoD study?

Here's the pdf link again for the document. (200 pages on various subjects)

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/348164/20140821_DCDC_GST_5_Web_Secured.pdf

I never said I found it "disagreeable", but there are many areas of concern including automation for example.

The thread is about Mega Cities and I don't want to bring in other topics.

This quote itself is alarming .... it's basically talking about the demise of National borders in Europe and changing Government structures by more integration.

"By 2045, there are likely to be around 280 megacities (cities with more than 20 million inhabitants).Many of these could be agglomerations spanning administrative, and in some cases national, boundaries thereby driving integration and changing governance structures".
“The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie." Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 10:38 #8

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Why are some people so obsessed with maintaining artificial national boundaries?
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 14:29 #9

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ragnarok wrote:
Hydroponic skyscraper farms are one of the ways to provide for such cities.

The rural food producing areas will just be dominated by corporations, which is a rather convenient side effect of getting just about everyone concentrated into cities and then them having a monopoly on the agricultural areas, land and water.

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It'd help if we could also be weaned off our addiction to meat, and instead eat it like we used to back in the olden days(pre-farming), ie. once every few days if you were lucky in a hunt.

How far back is pre-farming, weve been farming for thousands of years, and keeping/raising livestock and poultry for about as long.

Should we trade our guns in for spears too?
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 14:53 #10

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Roastie wrote:
Gan Anim wrote:
Here is a subject I have been following for some time. The talk of all the ghost cities in China laying predominantly empty really makers one think about the following information from Chris Hodges report from a couple of years back.

www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/08/27/the-nightmarish-megacities-of-the-near-future/

More here where 2040 is mentioned.

www.forumforthefuture.org/project/megacities-move/overview

In fact it's now big news and being pushed by the United Nations in a big way, is this the future for us all?

Yes indeed Apprentice. Hello.

The British Ministry of Defence published a 202 page document entitled:

Strategic Trends Programme
Global Strategic Trends - Out to 2045


Page 17 .... Urbanisation

"By 2045, there are likely to be around 280 megacities (cities with more than 20 million inhabitants).Many of these could be agglomerations spanning administrative, and in some cases national, boundaries thereby driving integration and changing governance structures.

Europe, for example, may have more than 20 major agglomerations by 2045 – the German Ruhr region, much of the
Netherlands and Belgium could become a single gigantic urban area. The taxation rights of some major cities could make them major
regional or international actors."

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/348164/20140821_DCDC_GST_5_Web_Secured.pdf



I started a thread last year about the document on DIF.

forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062718503

Hi Roastie

I remember the topic on DIF some time ago and have the DCDC report here.

I did point out how some things have already been decided upon such as our new post codes and the new post code lottery, they use the term sectors.

If you read their parifinalia very carefully one can see that the area postcodes are basically boundaries within a greater boundary, this is what happened in Russia of late and their trail of sectoral areas within the greater state.

In other words our national boundaries and counties have already been removed and the illusion of them has already been demanded by TPTB.

This is why we will never be allowed to leave the SHIP OF STATE.

This is not new either, during the mid to latter part of the Egyptian Dynasties the slave were restricted to certain areas and we're either marked by the beasts in charge or carried I'D, so such as clay tokens and we're restricted to their own prefectures, same thing was extant in Japan and China long before Bertrand Russell went there to organise what we see as Western involvement.

The whole control mechanism is Masonic orientated and all the global leaders members of their wider body of control.

Like Plato said, nothings new under their sun.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 15:03 #11

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ragnarok wrote:
Why are some people so obsessed with maintaining artificial national boundaries?

That's right rag

The powers that be already know where they are taking us one step at a time, eventually we will be unable to travel unless it's for the benefit of the state, or should I say corporate echelons that are already extant in several countries.

It is now quite vI Sible.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 15:47 #12

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I wonder just how many people live in cities through choice rather than from expediency?
Most people we know, ourselves included; high tailed out of the city and into the countryside first chance they got.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 15:59 #13

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I wonder just how many people live in cities through choice rather than from expediency?
Most people we know, ourselves included; high tailed out of the city and into the countryside first chance they got.

Most women these days cant go without their frappuccinos, "al fresco" dining.. and cocktail bars, its an unfortunate fact. Some of them might talk about the countryside in an idealistic sense, but theyre just daydreaming and dont really mean it, and if you plonk them there, they cant wait to get away.

And men wont stay where women dont stay.

A rare lass is one who prefers the country life.. those that exist now and do are typically of the older generation, the young ones if anything leave the countryside first chance they get, the ones that are born there that is.

Im speaking of the west here, i dont know what they do in all the mooslem countries etc, probably beat their wives into doing whatever the man wants etc, but in the west, the sex ratio demographics in alot of the countryside backs up what im speaking about, particularly in europe and australia.

Your spot sounds nice GMP, but how many of the younger generation move there, what are the demographics like? :)
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Mega cities fact or fiction 09 May 2017 16:18 #14

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Good point Nov.
Fact is you need to be minted to live anywhere nice and, for most; becoming minted takes many years of a working lifetime.
Hence places like this are mainly retirement areas with few good job to keep young folks here.
That said the County Set ( landowners and farmers mainly) tend to stick around whatever age they are.
We were at a big house 'do' a couple of months back and it was wall to wall late teens and early twenties.
They go away to uni or agricultural college then move back to marry-in and farm.
Chap who owns the house is ex military officer-class. Suspect, these days that he's some sort of spook. He pops up on Sky News every now and then talking about security issues. He keeps a flat in London for work but he's home for weekends and holidays.
His missus and kids all live here full time though.
Vast majority of people round here are 'white flight' folk who have moved here from urban areas or cities.
We came here from a deeply rural inland area that was handy for a city.
This is isolated coastal and not handy for anywhere much at all.
We have one shop, one pub, one petrol station ( 2 pumps). Anything more is over 8-miles away.
Suits us.
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Mega cities fact or fiction 12 May 2017 17:05 #15

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China's ghost cities from space, face a fancy apartment anyone.

uk.businessinsider.com/china-ghost-cities-satellite-images-2017-3?r=US&IR=T/#another-cool-building-in-ordos-sits-dormant-no-longer-under-construction-...g-to-digitalglobe-10

The NWO might book us into the working holiday model one day.
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