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The Blue Berets 17 Dec 2017 11:42 #1

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The UN peace keeping force....

I'm not going to argue it's a good thing, but what happened to it, and why did it not get involved in any of the Near East conflicts i-e seeking peace, protecting the vulnerable, assessing war crimes etc etc etc?

What is it actually doing now?
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The Blue Berets 17 Dec 2017 18:31 #2

From this an offensive operation the first of its kind for the UN:

foreignpolicy.com/2013/04/01/when-peacekeepers-go-to-war/

To this:

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/08/peacekeepers-killed-in-attack-on-un-base-in-dr-congo

The UN military peacekeeping force is a complete waste of time :lmao: :lmao:
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The Blue Berets 17 Dec 2017 18:45 #3

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Bobby Batter wrote:
What is it actually doing now?

Guarding the interests of the Crazy Apes abroad, protecting the resources so they can be stolen.
Indoctrinating people with lies.
Injecting children with poison.

"Peace" keepers, such beautiful people.
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The Blue Berets 17 Dec 2017 20:26 #4

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I remember them in Eastern Europe doing things in Bosnia etc..always on the tv news...now not a peep :dunno:

I don't know if they've always been useless but they seem to be that now. I recall reading something years ago that stated if any UN nation states had military units in barracks doing fuck all they had to give them to the UN, but the nation still has to pay their wages (if I recall correctly).

Maybe that's why certain nations such as the UK have reduced the numbers of soldiers etc...
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The Blue Berets 17 Dec 2017 20:57 #5

Bobby Batter wrote:
I remember them in Eastern Europe doing things in Bosnia etc..always on the tv news...now not a peep :dunno:

I don't know if they've always been useless but they seem to be that now. I recall reading something years ago that stated if any UN nation states had military units in barracks doing fuck all they had to give them to the UN, but the nation still has to pay their wages (if I recall correctly).

Maybe that's why certain nations such as the UK have reduced the numbers of soldiers etc...

What the UN has done is this, its made African Countries enlist their forces in the UN..African problems to be solved by Africans, while American/Western SF operate behind the scenes.
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The Blue Berets 18 Dec 2017 02:08 #6

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Ah I see, so only European troops will be active in Europe in general, and unless there's a major European conflict we won't see much of them. So the question still remains, ok there are some in Africa doing xyz and useless but where are all the rest when there is no conflict in Europe to attend to?

I'm sure if Syria was a European nation we'd have seen them all over the shop trying to put out fires and de-escalate situations instead of Russia and the US bombing certain places and backing certain sides.

I'd never heard of the UN blue berets until the Berlin wall came down and the Soviet Union broke up, it's as if they appeared to stop the place escalating literally into WW3. So either once those guys retired from military service they were not replaced and the Blue Berets have diminished as a cohesive force, to a fraction that operates in Africa (I mean Western soldiers) or they no longer exist but nobody has announced it.... :dunno:

Maybe if there's not much for them to do, they rejoin their own nations military, so the Blue Berets is a bit like an international cricket team and only appear ad hoc, otherwise they're back playing cricket for their local teams? So I guess seeing them on the ground in Europe is a warning that tptb are concerned or up to something, and when there's fuck all to do, they disappear apart from being useless in Africa.

I also recall the UN voting against the invasion of Iraq 2, and the US and allies ignoring that, so then the UN was sort of broken as a system and perhaps nations are less willing to provide troops to a concept that the US will simply over ride as they see fit to do so... In other words the US/allies have over taken the Blue Berets and now just act as ''peace keepers'' when ever they feel like it?

As I say, I'm not intending to defend the Blue Beret concept but surely it's better than the US/Allies just doing what they want.
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The Blue Berets 18 Dec 2017 11:53 #7

Every country will have Regiments or specialist units that are designated for UN duties if called upon, until then they continue operations within the military frame work of that country.

African troops would not have the capability to operate in a European zone as basically how can I put this delicately they are shit troops. I remember being quite shocked at seeing an Egyptian outfit in Zagreb in 1992 as part of a UN unit, how we laughed.

Generally UN troops are handicapped by so much red tape they are just a waste of time as you alluded to,prime example being Serbinica

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

The best use of UN troops would be in a natural disaster scenario where they can get in assist with deployment of HUMAID, and stop any looting or low level conflict from arising.

Why do you single out the US/Allies?

Russia and China are doing a fine job as always and Iran is dipping its toes in various hotspots to counter Sunni Islam.

Its all about the global game Mr Batter :cool2:
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The Blue Berets 18 Dec 2017 20:39 #8

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The reason I singled out the US/Allies is because they went against/ignored the UN council prior to invading Iraq, so it seems that a peacekeeping force could have assessed the WMD situation and prevented that 'war'.

The way I see it the Blue Berets could have been in Syria, basically protecting people that were caught up in the conflict zones and prevented mass migration, the same for Libya. it just seems the places where they are needed the most they're not there, and the US/allies have a rotten foreign policy for invading/interfering...I'm not saying that China/Russia/Iran are not meddling too, but just not at the same scale. I don't think any nation has done more invading over the past 50 years or so than the US.....on the pretence of being ghe good guys.
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The Blue Berets 18 Dec 2017 21:41 #9

Bobby Batter wrote:
The reason I singled out the US/Allies is because they went against/ignored the UN council prior to invading Iraq, so it seems that a peacekeeping force could have assessed the WMD situation and prevented that 'war'.

The way I see it the Blue Berets could have been in Syria, basically protecting people that were caught up in the conflict zones and prevented mass migration, the same for Libya. it just seems the places where they are needed the most they're not there, and the US/allies have a rotten foreign policy for invading/interfering...I'm not saying that China/Russia/Iran are not meddling too, but just not at the same scale. I don't think any nation has done more invading over the past 50 years or so than the US.....on the pretence of being ghe good guys.

I have given you the prime example of why UN troops are considered useless in a combat zone such as Syria and Libya that is Srebrinica where a civil war was in full flow. A little side story to that event, a team of SAS chaps sitting in the hills called an airstrike onto the Serbian armoured column on its way to Srebrinica but UNHQ said NON as they would be taking sides :twitch:

Result 8k Bosnian Muslims executed.

The problem in Iraq if I remembered was access to certain sites of interest by the UN inspection teams:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

As for the Yanks, maybe you should start digging on the Russians/Cubans/Angolans and what they were doing back in the 70's, 80's and 90's.

The Chinks are a bit more subtle and are just trying to buy Africa :lmao:
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The Blue Berets 19 Dec 2017 04:50 #10

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Well it's right that in a civil war the UN ought not take sides...as far as iraq is concerned the US were going to attack it, be there access to everywhere and no WMD, they simply wanted to attack iraq, thus did.

The point I'm making is that even as useless as they may be, we're likely to see the Blue Berets active in Europe should a conflict erupt, but in Iraq, Libya, Syria, conflicts can erupt and the Blue Berets keep away.

So what they really are is a diplomatic force, it's a way of British/French soldiers entering another nation to monitor etc..without being under their national flags. I don't think they're meant to be the police but rather sort of social workers lol.

Perhaps in the Near East they'd just get killed...or rather they don't want to have to deal with the US/Russia etc...It's a bit like they record information and report back to the UN council, it's too much farting about for the US's liking, certain nations putting in vetoes etc...no taking sides etc... But besides that even in Yemen, well if the US/UK are providing the weaponry as for people to get blown to bits, and yup, it goes as high as the US president and the UK royal family....well they don't want the UN snooping about, something might get discovered,
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