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TOPIC: John J McCloy

John J McCloy 03 Dec 2018 16:15 #1

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I've wanted to start a thread about this man for some time. I haven't come to any pre-determined views about him, but want to learn more.

Let's start with Wikipedia:

"John Jay McCloy (born John Snader McCloy; March 31, 1895 – March 11, 1989) was an American lawyer and banker who served as Assistant Secretary of War during World War II.

After the war he served as president of the World Bank, U.S. High Commissioner for Germany, chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank, and chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations. He later became a prominent United States presidential adviser, served on the Warren Commission, and was a member of the foreign policy establishment group of elders called "The Wise Men"



Bombing of Auschwitz

"The War Department was petitioned throughout late 1944 to help save Nazi l-held prisoners by ordering the bombing of the railroad lines leading to Auschwitz and the gas chambers in the camp. McCloy responded in a letter dated 4 July 1944 to John W. Pehle of the War Refugee Board, "The War Department is of the opinion that the suggested air operation is impracticable. It could be executed only by the diversion of considerable air support essential to the success of our forces now engaged in decisive operations and would in any case be of such doubtful efficacy that it would not amount to a practical project." McCloy had no direct authority over the Army Air Forces and could not overrule its choice of targets; the Army Air Forces, led by General Hap Arnold was adamantly opposed to any outside civilian group choosing its targets. Roosevelt himself rejected any such proposals."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._McCloy

Also:

"In 1949, John McCloy left his job as president of the World Bank to become the U.S. High Commissioner of Allied-occupied Germany.

It wasn’t his first experience in that country; McCloy had been an attorney for the German chemical giant IG Farben in the 1930s. He also sat with Hitler in the Fuhrer’s box at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. In a stunning amnesty, the U.S. High Commissioner commuted the life sentences of five of the worst Nazi doctors, including Dr. Herta Oberheuser, a woman who injected healthy children with oil and removed their limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

Herta Oberheusser we are told (where is the evidence?) committed the most horrific crimes against children. She was originally only given
a 20 year sentence, but was pardoned by John J McCloy after 5 years in prison Why?
:noway:

Commissioner McCloy also reduced the sentences of other Nazi criminals convicted in the Nürnberg Trials considerably. From 89 appeals of clemency he granted 79. 30 inmates were released immediately, and the sentences of the remaining 59 were drastically reduced, amongst them also the prominent industrialist Friedrich Flick and Alfred Krupp"

www.worldlibrary.org/articles/eng/John_Jay_McCloy

THE ORIGINS OF JOHN J MCCLOY

This is Anna Snader McCloy of Philadelphia. She was Therese Schiff's hairdresser during the summers on Mount Desert Island. Anna was a pretty, vigorous, and intelligent young widow who managed to make a small but decent family income by teaching herself hairdressing.



The hairdresser's son, John J. McCloy went on become a trusted friend and lawyer to the Schiff, Warburg and Rockefeller families. The families would trust McCloy with their most delicate assignments.



Much more here:

jaxrevenge.blogspot.com/2011/06/hairdressers-son.html
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John J McCloy 03 Dec 2018 18:46 #2

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I heard this crazy conspiracy theory he worked for the Warburgs & Rockefeller's who financed the Nazis..the same guys behind the creation of the FED & owners of IG Farben..but of course Hitler printed his own money & brought the people of Germany out of dire poverty all by himself.
Crazy shit you read on the interwebs hey. :roll:
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John J McCloy 03 Dec 2018 20:45 #3

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Great you started this thread, Roastie.

John McCloy, one of the "Wise Men" :yerright: who made sure the "rogue and uncontrolled Nazis" did not stay in prison for too long (if even).

A Nazionist pur sang, this fella.
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John J McCloy 03 Dec 2018 23:24 #4

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Here come the jew Gaia and the radical leftist porridge with their "ZioNazi" crap again.

I don't know wether to start feeling ashamed or pitiful for these poor Pavlovian little people..

Don't these fools have anything else to say? :larf:

Nope, because they have no talking points and lose every single debate.

And even 'proving' the National Socialists were 'controlled opposition' does not help fighting the NWO whatsoever anyway.
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 09:54 #5

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It's people like them that make me like Nazism, same reason I like Trump really :)
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 12:39 #6

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Rocco wrote:
It's people like them that make me like Nazism, same reason I like Trump really :)

Trump is just another puppet for the Jew World Order. Same old, nothing new to see.



But this thread is about John J McCloy, who was, under JFK the person responsible for Mission on Near East Arms Limitation

history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1961-63v18/d301

I'm interested in his possible involvement in the assassination of JFK because of Kennedy's insistence for
transparency in relation to the Israeli nuclear weapons programme.


John J McCloy was part of the Warren Commission concerning the murder of JFK, which was a whitewash, an attempt to hide the truth, just like the 9/11 Commission.
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 12:59 #7

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Roastie wrote:
Rocco wrote:
It's people like them that make me like Nazism, same reason I like Trump really :)

Trump is just another puppet for the Jew World Order. Same old, nothing new to see.

Yea, I've noticed Roc hasn't been redpilled on Trump and capitalism enough as well. :)
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 13:54 #8

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Flare wrote:
Roastie wrote:
Rocco wrote:
It's people like them that make me like Nazism, same reason I like Trump really :)

Trump is just another puppet for the Jew World Order. Same old, nothing new to see.

Yea, I've noticed Roc hasn't been redpilled on Trump and capitalism enough as well. :)

Yep ... they have faith in the Orange One even though they know his father supported Jews.

Donald Trump is bank-rolled by Jews.

His son-in-law is a Jew, whose parents were close friends of Netanyahu.

Trump's grandchildren are Jewish because Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism. Chelsea Clinton married a Jew also, so Hillary and Bill's grandchildren will be indoctrinated with supremacist Talmudic ideology as well.

Putin's daughter, it is reported also married a Jew ... and so it goes on.

BUT ACCORDING TO AGENTS, POSSIBLY ON THIS FORUM .... NOTHING TO SEE HERE


Trump is Rocco's saviour lol :lmao:
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 14:01 #9

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^ Well, during the presidential run Trump basically said ALL the right things.

Things no other president even dared to mention since Kennedy.

But yea, after he got into office it turned out to be all talk, no deeds.

Matter of fact, he immediately declared Jerusalem as capital of jüden-land. :noway:


Roc should recognize that. And he should recognize that capitalism is a jewish invention.

But hey, we're never to old to learn now right? :D
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 15:12 #10

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Let's stay ontopic, this fella is too interesting to let it turn into another Trumptard thread.

John J. Mc. Cloy
According to Anton Chaitkin (George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography) McCloy worked as an advisor to the fascist government of Benito Mussolini.

Oops. :wissl:
McCloy developed the view that German Reparations as a result of the First World War were both unwise and unfair.

Which is true of course. :thumbup:
According to McCloy: "Practically every merchant bank and Wall Street firm, from J. P. Morgan and Brown Brothers on down, was over there (Germany) picking up loans. We were all very European in our outlook, and our goal was to see it rebuilt."

The same J.P. Morgan who helped funding the Nazis and the Allies in WWI:
The new project was developed in the depths of “JP Morgan & Co.” under the instruction of the head of the Bank of England, Montagu Norman. At the core of his ideas was representative of the “Dresdner Bank” (((Hjalmar Schacht))), who formulated it in March 1922 at the suggestion of John Foster Dulles (future Secretary of state in the Cabinet of President Eisenhower) and legal adviser to President W. Wilson at the Paris peace conference. Dulles gave this note to the chief Trustee “JP Morgan & Co.”, and then JP Morgan recommended that H. Schacht, M. Norman, and the last of the Weimar rulers. In December, 1923, H. Schacht would become Manager of the Reichsbank and was instrumental in bringing together the Anglo-American and German financial circles.
In August 1914, Henry P. Davison, a Morgan partner, traveled to London and made a deal with the Bank of England to make J.P. Morgan & Co. the sole underwriter of war bonds for Great Britain and France. The Bank of England became a fiscal agent of J.P. Morgan & Co. and vice versa. Over the course of the war, J.P. Morgan loaned about $1.5 billion (approximately $36.65 billion in today's dollars) to the Allies to fight against the Germans. The company also invested in the suppliers of war equipment to Britain and France, thus profiting from the financing and purchasing activities of the two European governments.

Financing both "sides" of the wars, a common practice (Waterloo, anyone?). :yup:

Back to Johnnieboy:
In his dealings with Germany, McCloy worked closely with Paul M. Warburg, the founder of M. M. Warburg in Hamburg, who argued that the "United States should throw open its doors to European imports and pay for them with the gold the Allies had used to pay for U.S. war material". Warburg argued that this strategy would result in New York becoming the world's financial and commercial centre.
in 1936 Mccloy traveled to Berlin where he had a meeting with Rudolf Hess. This was followed by McCloy sharing a box with with Adolf Hitler and Herman Goering at the Berlin Olympics. McCloy's law firm also represented I.G. Farben and its affiliates during this period.

Seems like the perfect man to con-troll the post-war show trials of Nuremberg and others! :roll:
McCloy held a meeting with J. Edgar Hoover and Attorney General Francis Biddle on 1st February, 1942 about [the West Coast security problem with the Japanese, 2 months after the Pearl Harbor staged event]. Biddle argued that the Justice Department would have nothing to do with any interference with citizens, "whether they are Japanese or not". McCloy replied, "the Constitution is just a scrap of paper to me."

What a "Wise Man". :nono:
McCloy also got support from Earl Warren, the Attorney General of the State of California. He argued that all Japanese-Americans should be interned. However, Henry L. Stimson, like Francis Biddle, had his doubts about the wisdom of taking this action. However, on 19th February, 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the construction of relocation camps for Japanese Americans being moved from their homes.

Over the next few months ten permanent camps were constructed to house more than 110,000 Japanese Americans that had been removed from security areas. These people were deprived of their homes, their jobs and their constitutional and legal rights.

Kidnapping and imprisoning innocent people, just based on their ethnicity (invented; jews, or real; Japanese)... :sadno:
"More than any individual, McCloy was responsible for the decision, since the president had delegated the matter to him through Stimson... Why, then, did McCloy become an advocate of mass evacuation? One answer is simple racism."

Another answer is clear from his earlier comment; "the constitution is nothing but a scrap of paper". Fascists love to hang around with fascists and they copy their sick and twisted methods (concentration camps were commonly used by the British in India and elsewhere, the Germans in Namibia, the US Americans in the US and the Nazis in the Third Reich of course). :mad:
On 9th April 1944, Rudolf Vrba and Alfred Wetzler, managed to escape from Auschwitz. The two men spent eleven days walking and hiding before they got back to Slovakia. Vrba and Wetzler made contact with the local Jewish Council. They provided details of the Holocaust that was taking place in Eastern Europe. They also gave an estimate of the number of Jews killed in Auschwitz between June 1942 and April 1944: about 1.75 million.

On 29th June, 1944, the 32-page Vrba-Wetzler Report was sent to John McCloy. Attached to it was a note requesting the bombing of vital sections of the rail lines that transported the Jews to Auschwitz. McCloy investigated the request and then told his personal aide, Colonel Al Gerhardt, to "kill" the matter.

McCoy received several requests to take military action against the death camps. He always sent the following letter: "The War Department is of the opinion that the suggested air operation is impracticable. It could be executed only by the diversion of considerable air support essential to the success of our forces now engaged in decisive operations and would in any case be of such very doubtful efficacy that it would not amount to a practical project."

This was untrue. Long-range American bombers stationed in Italy had been flying over Auschwitz and the neighbouring I. G. Farben petrochemical plant since April, 1944. The American Air Force were also bombing Germany's synthetic-fuels plants to regions very close to the death camps. In fact, in August 1944, the Monowitz camp, part of the Auschwitz complex, was bombed by accident.

The Vrba-Wetzler story is of course part of the staged event the mass gassings was. But it shows that McCloy was well aware of the Holocaust Story at that time and that he worked as a perpetraitor of it. :joker:
After the war McCloy was invited by Nelson Rockefeller to join the family law firm. He accepted the offer and the firm became known as Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy. The law firm's most important client was the Rockefeller family's bank, Chase Manhattan.

Keep it in (((the family))), guys! :up:
In 1947 McCloy was appointed president of the World Bank. However, in 1949 he replaced Lucius Clay, as High Commissioner for Germany.

The perfect man for the job(s)! :emb:
In March 1950, McCloy was given the task of appointing a new head of the West German Secret Service. After discussing the matter with Frank Wisner of the CIA, McCloy decided on Reinhard Gehlen, the Nazi war criminal.

Again proving there were never "different sides" pre-, during and post-WWII, it was the fascists (of all flags) against the people (of all races, ethnicities, religions). :umm:
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Gaia wrote:
Great you started this thread, Roastie.

John McCloy, one of the "Wise Men" :yerright: who made sure the "rogue and uncontrolled Nazis" did not stay in prison for too long (if even).

A Nazionist pur sang, this fella.

Yeah its funny how they all got bailed out so quick..similar to Churchills undying love for Albert Kesselring

Hitler the anti bankster. :joker:

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Let's stay on topic, this fella is too interesting to let it turn into another Trumptard thread.

I agree.

John J McCoy was reportedly financially involved with 21 oil companies too, including Standard Oil

I haven't read all of this pdf, but it may make interesting reading for some.

2. “Getting along with their own business“ The secret pact of Standard Oil with the Nazis and why Adolf Eichmann was silenced

www.gabyweber.com/dwnld/artikel/eichmann/ingles/secret_pact_standard_oil.pdf

Standard Oil was also connected with the Bush family.

Is there a connection here with Standard Oil and the assassination of JFK?

I need to do more research about the Kennedy's and the Seven Sisters, including Standard Oil.
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Indeed, Roastie, those Financial Fascists were all in bed with each other.

More dirty business of John J. Mc.Cloy:

Flick
Friedrich Flick was a major industrialist in Germany. By the 1930s, he became the director of United Steelworks—the largest steel firm in Germany at the time. A major supporter of the Nazi Party, he donated seven million marks to the party, as well as providing 10,000 marks a year for the SS. During World War II, Flick profited enormously through the use of slave labor provided by the SS. The slaves numbered at 48,000, and 80 percent are estimated to have died due to brutal treatment.

Flick was tried by an American court in Nuremberg and sentenced to only seven years imprisonment. He was released in January 1951 by High Commissioner John J. McCloy, who was interested in revitalizing German steel production. Flick was subsequently estimated to be the wealthiest man in Germany and the fifth wealthiest man in the world. He died in 1972, never having paid a cent to the families of the slaves who died so he could be filthy rich.

Krupp
Alfried Krupp was the son of steel industrialist Gustav Krupp. Alfried ran the Krupp factories during World War II, supplying tanks, arms, and munitions to the German military. In 1943, he was appointed head of the department of Mining and Armaments. Krupp was a heartless slave driver, initiating the request to the SS for slave labor. He actively cooperated with the SS to procure labor from Auschwitz. Approximately 100,000 slave laborers from concentration camps worked in his factories, with around 70 percent of them dying as a result of horrible conditions and the brutal treatment from SS guards.In 1948, Krupp was tried by an American court. He was sentenced to 12 years imprisonment and deprived of his wealth. However, in 1951, High Commissioner John J. McCloy not only pardoned him but returned his assets. In 1953, Alfried again became head of the firm and restored the Krupp company to its former prestige. He died in 1967, the last of the Krupp family to run the firm.

Ter Meer
Fritz Ter Meer, the senior executive of I. G. Farben, the company that produced Zyklon B poison for the gas chambers. He was also Hitler's Commissioner of for Armament and War Production for the chemical industry during the war.

More crooks pardoned by McCloy
SS division commander, SD commander in Estonia and head of Gestapo in Verona, Sandberger was responsible for the detainment and murder of thousands of Jews, communists, Roma and mentally ill. He was sent to Estonia to carry out mass murder in full knowledge of Hitler’s Führer Order to kill Jews.

He received the death sentence, but was reprieved and then pardoned by John J. McCloy and released in 1958. Sandberger died in 2010 at the age of 98.
SS-Brigadeführer, Secretary of State, Ambassador to the Holy See, Weizsäcker professed that he was an anti-Nazi and supporter of the resistance.

He was sentenced to 7 years for co-operating with the deportation of French Jews to Auschwitz, though he was released after only 3 years and three months [33, so likely that didn't even happen] with the help of John J. McCloy.
McCloy announced that five of the fifteen death sentences from the Nuremburg judgements would be carried out. He then reduced the sentences of sixty four of the remaining seventy four war criminals. One third of these were to be released immediately. He also reduced the sentences of all the remaining convicted doctors who had experimented on concentration camp inmates.

They were in bed with each other. Literally
The three most powerful men in post war Germany: High Commissioner McCloy, Douglas, Head of the Finance Division of the Control Council and Chancellor Konrad Adenauer were all brother-in laws. All three men had married daughters of the wealthy John Zinsser, a partner of JP Morgan. The Morgan empire would control the fate of Germany.
In 1952 American Council on Germany is being incorporated in New York, among the founders, Eric M. Warburg, Ellen McCloy ([Zinsser]) (wife) and general Lucious Clay. John J. McCloy, was the founding Chairman and continued to serve until 1987.

Oops... :wissl:
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Roastie wrote:
"In 1949, John McCloy left his job as president of the World Bank to become the U.S. High Commissioner of Allied-occupied Germany.

It wasn’t his first experience in that country; McCloy had been an attorney for the German chemical giant IG Farben in the 1930s. He also sat with Hitler in the Fuhrer’s box at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. In a stunning amnesty, the U.S. High Commissioner commuted the life sentences of five of the worst Nazi doctors, including Dr. Herta Oberheuser, a woman who injected healthy children with oil and removed their limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

Herta Oberheusser we are told (where is the evidence?) committed the most horrific crimes against children. She was originally only given
a 20 year sentence, but was pardoned by John J McCloy after 5 years in prison Why?
:noway:


Roastie - Roastie - Roastie.... :roll:

What is this all about "injected healthy children with oil and removed her limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

You are using false sources here. If they come up with that kind of crap, then why use it..?
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Roastie wrote:
Gaia wrote:
Let's stay on topic, this fella is too interesting to let it turn into another Trumptard thread.

I agree.

John J McCoy was reportedly financially involved with 21 oil companies too, including Standard Oil

I haven't read all of this pdf, but it may make interesting reading for some.

2. “Getting along with their own business“ The secret pact of Standard Oil with the Nazis and why Adolf Eichmann was silenced

www.gabyweber.com/dwnld/artikel/eichmann/ingles/secret_pact_standard_oil.pdf

Standard Oil was also connected with the Bush family.

Is there a connection here with Standard Oil and the assassination of JFK?

I need to do more research about the Kennedy's and the Seven Sisters, including Standard Oil.

And what about the National Socialists doing dealings with Standard Oil?

They needed to get their oil from somewhere right?

Let me tell you another secret.... the Soviet Union provided oil to Germany as well, before they got invaded by Germany.

It's funny how you people think German dealings with American companies are 'suspicious', while there's a perfectly logical explanation for it: TRADE

As that's how trade works between countries.

When war broke out, that's when German assets were frozen by the allies and boycotts started.

Easy as 1 + 1 = 2

Yet you people rather want to hear 'exciting' conspiracy theories in stead.
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I need to do more research about the Kennedy's and the Seven Sisters, including Standard Oil.

Kennedy, 2.5 years before his "assassination", endorsed yet another Nazi crook, again buddies with McCloy, Hermann Abs:

Hermann Abs, Leading Nazi Banker, Honored by World Exhibit Group
June 20, 1961
The appointment of Hermann J. Abs, head of the Deutsche bank under the Nazi regime, as a member of the “International Honorary Advisory Council” of a group planning a United States Government-approved 1962 International Economic Development Exhibition in Chicago, was made known here today.

Mr. Abs was honored because of his recent World Bank activities in India and Pakistan. Other officials of the Center pointed out that Israel has benefited from various aid programs in which some of the Center’s leaders have participated.

The undertaking was designed to “advance the brotherhood of man…economic progress and human welfare” by expediting global economic development with participation of private industry.

President Kennedy endorsed the exposition as a response to “aspirations of people everywhere for a better life.” The Center announced that Mr. Kennedy “has already instructed various agencies of the U.S. Government concerned to participate.”

Mr. Abs, according to an official report to the U.S. Defense Department by the commanding general of an Army decartelization unit, participated in direction of Hitler’s economic strategy and undertakings that “performed a planning, shaping, and guiding function in the Nazi economy.” Nazi Economic Minister Walther Funk, sentenced at Numberg, described the role of Abs’ bank in Nazi crimes and exploitation of occupied areas.

William L. Shirer reported that the Deutsche Bank, under Abs’ direction, was among industries and institutions that backed and benefitted from the Hitler regime.

For Nazi Industrialists And Hitler’s Banker “All Was Forgiven”
The members of the Committee for Foreign Economic Affairs included Hermann Abs of Deutsche Bank, the most powerful commercial banker in the Third Reich. The dapper, elegant Abs was an old friend of the BIS. He had been sent there by Schacht during the 1930s to try and stall demands for repayments of the loans that financed Germany after 1918. In Basel, Abs frequently met with a British banker called Charles Gunston, who was a protégé of Montagu Norman. Gunston managed the Bank of England’s German desk, which made him immensely important during the 1930s. Gunston was so keen on the new Germany that he spent his 1934 summer holidays at a work camp for enthusiastic Nazi party members. He also admired Abs and later described him as “Very urbane. Always a velvet glove around an iron fist.” Abs did not join the Nazi party, but he was so essential for the functioning of the Third Reich’s economy that he did not need to. As the head of Deutsche Bank’s foreign department during the war, Abs was the lynchpin of the continent-wide plunder, directing the absorption of Aryanized banks and companies across the Third Reich. During the twelve years of the Third Reich, the bank’s wealth quadrupled. Abs sat on the board of dozens of companies, including, naturally, IG Farben.

Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
By 1942, Abs held 40 directorships, a quarter of which were in countries occupied by the Nazis. Many of these Aryanised companies used slave labour and by 1943 Deutsche Bank's wealth had quadrupled.

Abs was one of the most important figures in Germany's post-war reconstruction. It was largely thanks to him that, just as the Red House Report exhorted, a 'strong German empire' was indeed rebuilt, one which formed the basis of today's European Union.

Abs was put in charge of allocating Marshall Aid - reconstruction funds - to German industry. By 1948 he was effectively managing Germany's economic recovery.

Crucially, Abs was also a member of the European League for Economic Co-operation, an elite intellectual pressure group set up in 1946. The league was dedicated to the establishment of a common market, the precursor of the European Union.

Its members included industrialists and financiers and it developed policies that are strikingly familiar today - on monetary integration and common transport, energy and welfare systems.

When Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of West Germany, took power in 1949, Abs was his most important financial adviser.

Abs, Adenauer, Bilderbergers, Krupp, Flick and of course... John J. McCloy
Over the years, Bilderberg participants have come from the NATO countries, Switzerland, Sweden, Austria, and Finland, and have included prominent individuals such as Dean Rusk, Christian A. Herter, Maurice Faure, Franz-Josef Strauss, Amitore Fanfani, Panayotis Pipinelis, Reginald Maudling, the late Hugh Gaitskell, Omer Becu, Guy Mollet, the late Michael Ross, Herman Abs, C. L. Sulzberger, Joseph Harsch, and T. M. Terkelsen.
On 5th December, 1950, Adenauer wrote [brother in-law!] McCloy a letter urging clemency for Krupp. Hermann Abs, one of Hitler's personal bankers, who surprisingly was never tried as a war criminal at Nuremberg, also began campaigning for the release of German industrialists in prison.

In January, 1951, McCloy announced that Alfried Krupp and eight members of his board of directors who had been convicted with him, were to be released. His property, valued at around 45 million, and his numerous companies were also restored to him.
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 17:07 #17

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Flare wrote:
Roastie wrote:
"In 1949, John McCloy left his job as president of the World Bank to become the U.S. High Commissioner of Allied-occupied Germany.

It wasn’t his first experience in that country; McCloy had been an attorney for the German chemical giant IG Farben in the 1930s. He also sat with Hitler in the Fuhrer’s box at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. In a stunning amnesty, the U.S. High Commissioner commuted the life sentences of five of the worst Nazi doctors, including Dr. Herta Oberheuser, a woman who injected healthy children with oil and removed their limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

Herta Oberheusser we are told (where is the evidence?) committed the most horrific crimes against children. She was originally only given
a 20 year sentence, but was pardoned by John J McCloy after 5 years in prison Why?
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Roastie - Roastie - Roastie.... :roll:

What is this all about "injected healthy children with oil and removed her limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

You are using false sources here. If they come up with that kind of crap, then why use it..?

Not trying to take anything off topic and ill step out after this point....

Isnt that highlighted bit exactly what you were denying any existence of on another thread Flare??
A "discussion" you have been having with Gan perhaps??
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John J McCloy 04 Dec 2018 17:09 #18

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Oreironstar wrote:
Flare wrote:
Roastie wrote:
"In 1949, John McCloy left his job as president of the World Bank to become the U.S. High Commissioner of Allied-occupied Germany.

It wasn’t his first experience in that country; McCloy had been an attorney for the German chemical giant IG Farben in the 1930s. He also sat with Hitler in the Fuhrer’s box at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. In a stunning amnesty, the U.S. High Commissioner commuted the life sentences of five of the worst Nazi doctors, including Dr. Herta Oberheuser, a woman who injected healthy children with oil and removed their limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

Herta Oberheusser we are told (where is the evidence?) committed the most horrific crimes against children. She was originally only given
a 20 year sentence, but was pardoned by John J McCloy after 5 years in prison Why?
:noway:


Roastie - Roastie - Roastie.... :roll:

What is this all about "injected healthy children with oil and removed her limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

You are using false sources here. If they come up with that kind of crap, then why use it..?

Not trying to take anything off topic and ill step out after this point....

Isnt that highlighted bit exactly what you were denying any existence of on another thread Flare??
A "discussion" you have been having with Gan perhaps??
:dunno:

Well, I just noted it's highly remarkable that Roastie is making use of false sources in her OP.

Which is ridiculous of course if you're looking for the Truth on a forum called Truth-Zone.
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Flare wrote:
Oreironstar wrote:
Flare wrote:
Roastie wrote:
"In 1949, John McCloy left his job as president of the World Bank to become the U.S. High Commissioner of Allied-occupied Germany.

It wasn’t his first experience in that country; McCloy had been an attorney for the German chemical giant IG Farben in the 1930s. He also sat with Hitler in the Fuhrer’s box at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. In a stunning amnesty, the U.S. High Commissioner commuted the life sentences of five of the worst Nazi doctors, including Dr. Herta Oberheuser, a woman who injected healthy children with oil and removed their limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

Herta Oberheusser we are told (where is the evidence?) committed the most horrific crimes against children. She was originally only given
a 20 year sentence, but was pardoned by John J McCloy after 5 years in prison Why?
:noway:


Roastie - Roastie - Roastie.... :roll:

What is this all about "injected healthy children with oil and removed her limbs and organs without anesthesia while they were still alive and conscious."

You are using false sources here. If they come up with that kind of crap, then why use it..?

Not trying to take anything off topic and ill step out after this point....

Isnt that highlighted bit exactly what you were denying any existence of on another thread Flare??
A "discussion" you have been having with Gan perhaps??
:dunno:

Well, I just noted it's highly remarkable that Roastie is making use of false sources in her OP.

Which is ridiculous of course if you're looking for the Truth on a forum called Truth-Zone.

Ive also been pointing towards this a bit too....might have noticed i made a thread all about it in fact :thumbup:
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The Nazi Connection to the John F. Kennedy Assassination

Evidence of link between Nazis still in operation after World War II to the still unsolved murder of John F. Kennedy
When the nazis occupied Europe, the banking exchanges between Britain and the U.S. on the one hand and Germany on the other carried on as usual. In Trading With the Enemy, Charles Higham documents the role of Standard Oil of New Jersey, owned by the Chase Manhattan Bank, and I.G. Farben's Sterling Products with the Bank for International Settlements. Standard Oil tankers plied the sea lanes with fuel for the nazi war machine. Prior to the war McCloy was legal counsel to Farben, the German chemical monopoly.

As an assistant secretary in the War Department during the war:
  • McCloy blocked the executions of nazi war criminals
  • Forged a pact with the Vichy Regime of pro-nazi Admiral Darlan.
  • Displaced Japanese-Americans in California to internment camps.
  • Refused to recommend the bombing of nazi concentration camps to spare the inmates on grounds "the cost would be out of proportion to any possible benefits."
  • Refused Jewish refugees entry to the U.S. [of course; as the goal was to send them to Palestine instead]

When the curtain fell on the war, McCloy helped shield Klaus Barbie, the "butcher of Lyons," from the French. Barbie and other vicious dogs from Hitler's kennel were hidden out with the 370th Counter Intelligence Corps at Obergamergau. One of their keepers was Private Henry Kissinger, soon to enter Harvard as a McCloy protege.

In 1949 McCloy returned to Germany as American High Commissioner. He commuted the death sentences of a number of nazi war criminals, and gave early releases to others. One was Alfred Krupp, convicted of using slave labor in his armaments factories. Another was Hitler's financial genius, Dr. Hjalmar Schacht, who subsequently went on the payroll of Aristotle Onassis [Kennedy link 1].

In 1952 McCloy left a Germany that was prepared to re-arm to return to his law practice. He became president of the Chase Manhattan Bank, director of a dozen blue chip corporations, and legal counsel to the "Seven Sisters" of American oil. During this period he acquired a client, the Nobel oil firm, whose interests in Czarist Russia had been managed by the father of George de Mohrenschildt, Lee and Marina Oswald's [Kennedy link 2] "best friend" in Dallas.

Busy as he was McCloy found time to supervise construction of the new Pentagon building. It was nicknamed "McCloy's Folly."

Hoover, Dulles and McCloy did not belong to the Kennedy fan club. When the president was shot ["""shot"""], Hoover controlled the field investigation, and Dulles and McCloy helped mold the final verdict of the Warren Commission [Kennedy link 3].



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President John F. Kennedy meets with John McCloy, Director of the United States Disarmament Commission. Oval Office, White House, Washington, D.C.


John McCloy made John "Ich bin ein Berliner" Kennedy famous
He has been called “the most influential private citizen in America” by Harper’s magazine, “the conscience of America” by DIE ZEIT, and “the godfather of the new Germany” by former Federal German President Richard von Weizsaecker.

President Kennedy’s declaration of “Ich bin ein Berliner” might not have become a reality were it not for Mr. McCloy. The President’s advisors had warned JFK not to travel to the city, where tensions were high in the summer of 1963. President Kennedy changed his mind only after consulting with Mr. McCloy, who admonished him that he should not go to Germany at all if he did not go to Berlin.
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