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TOPIC: The Green Deal road to technocracy

The Green Deal road to technocracy 09 Feb 2019 10:46 #1

The green regime

This is a tricky one! On one hand i love the idea of renewable technologies because i support energy SELF-SUFFICIENCY for individuals so that they are not dependent on the mega-corporations.

A good story to give an idea of what the mega-corps are about is the story of what bechtel did in bolivia where it bribed (and probably threatened) the bolivian government into privatising its water supply so that bechtel could then buy up the water utilities and then charge bolivian people for their own natural resource! The cost of water then rose as the corporation sought to squeeze the bolivian people so what people started doing was collecting rain water and using that. Bechtel responded by getting the government to make it illegal to collect rainwater!!! The bolivian people then rose up in protest and managed to overturn bechtels control of their water supply

So gathering your own water would in off grid parlance be called 'rain water capture' and if you have your own access to water then you can't be screwed over by the corporations like people have been in ireland for example. The same applies for your energy for example if you have your own solar panels you are not reliant on the energy corporations who keep raising their prices and engaging in price fixing to screw over the consumer.

So i support 'green' energies when they are decentralised. But the 'green deal' being touted at the moment in the US is not about creating decentralised green technologies, it is about creating centralised, corporate run technologies that will all be integrated into the 'smart' system. In essence the green deal is an oligarch run push for a technocracy.

Traditionally lefties have seen the government as a solution to rapatious corporations because they argue the state can regulate the corporations and also the state can nationalise utlities like venezuala has which is why venezuala is now being destabilised by the corporate network who want to get in there and get their hands on venezualas resources such as its oil in the same way bechtel wanted control of bolivias water. So i have sympathies with that position but where i diverge from them is that i see the state as just another mechanism of control.

So in the same way that the state can regulate corporations and use anti-trust laws like RICO to break up 'too big to fail' corporations the state can also be used to legitimise corporations and to create favourable beaurocratic and tax environments for big corporations that benefit them while penalising small to medium enterprises and 'mom and pop' businesses

So the state can work against corporations or it can work for them. The problem we have in the west is that the corporations have captured government through various means and essentially control government. The wealth grab of the corporations and of the bank bailouts that has seen public wealth moved into a small number of private hands (neoliberalism) is really about grabbing POWER. So why do the private individuals who are behind the corporations want to grab all the power? the ultimate expression of power is the TECHNOCRACY because the technocracy creates a technocratic gulag where society is monitored and controlled 24/7 by technology created by the corporations and used by the state to control individuals.

The technocracy is the perfect merger of state and corporate power which some would say is the definition of 'fascism' but you could also argue that it is 'state-socialism' where the state owns and controls the means of production with the problem that the state is in turn controlled by the people behind the corporations who are then able to use the apparatus of the state to control the workers

The green deal is really a push towards the technocracy and it is being driven by the powerful oligarchic forces that also controlled the age of oil. They are simply transitioning society to the next phase of totalitarian control. What the technocracy represents is a total defeat for the workers and a complete victory for the monopoly capitalist oligarchs

Corporations See a Different Kind of “Green” in Ocasio-Cortez’s “Green New Deal”
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s “Green New Deal” initiative was unveiled on Thursday and quickly became the target of disingenuous ridicule from both sides of the aisle. But as Whitney Webb highlights in this Dec 18, 2018 piece, there are very serious reasons to be concerned.
by Whitney Webb
For someone who has campaigned on upending the status quo and challenging the establishment, Ocasio-Cortez and the “Green New Deal” tied so closely to her name sure have won a lot of support from the establishment, and quickly too. While that phenomenon has been touted as evidence that progressive agendas are finally “winning” on Capitol Hill, one need look no further than the text of the Green New Deal on Ocasio-Cortez’s own website to realize that the real reason this plan has gained so much establishment support so quickly is that it is an oligarch-driven corporate answer to climate change and inequality and a wishlist for the neoliberals who still control the core of the Democratic Party.
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 09 Feb 2019 11:59 #2

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I think AOC is there to be 'extreme' and push the overton window further towards radical "climate solutions"

For example she has apparently said things about banning all air travel... and other radical measures.

So once these radical ideas are out there, less radical ideas that are perhaps still radical dont look as radical.. if y'all are following me.

So then these less extreme measures are deemed more acceptable and so on.

I think much of this is about wealth distribution and making all people on earth all more equal in an economic sense.

Of course some animals will remain more equal than others.

And cortez isnt there by accident.

As ive said before on here I dont see 2 sides of politricks its just one pretending to be two for the most part and especially in the US.
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 09 Feb 2019 12:58 #3

I don't think its about wealth redistribution

if it was about that the oligarchs could easily redistribute the wealth themselves because they own most of it

and clearly they ain't doing that....

So if they talk about wealth redistribution that will be the faux-morality cover story. They ALWAYS have one which they use to hide their intentions behind

By saying they will redistribute the wealth they will win the vote of the NEET class (not in education, training or employment). They'll win over any people who feel poor because those people will think that sounds like a great idea

but the oligarchs are not about to share their wealth. The only wealth they will be willing to redistribute is the wealth of the middle class

But the middle class rose up originally to challenge the power of the fuedal class

What this is all really about is about bringing in the technocracy. So the oligarchs corporations are building all the infrastructure for that. For example the SMART meters. When the smart meters on your street gather all the data of your energy use they then send that data to the corporations who have an interface with the deep state

The technocracy IS the corporatocracy and the deep state like for example the CIA are just the military wing of the corporatocracy

The green regime is a totalitarian technocracy based around the control of ALL energy use right down to your electric toothbrush which wil be made 'smart' and part of the internet of things so that it will send back data to the corporatocracy about your energy use
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 06:01 #4

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New Green Deal FAQ section actual quote:
"We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren't sure that we'll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast."



They are backtracking on that now (uh...lying).

twitter.com/JerylBier/status/1093697335589326848
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 07:17 #5

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I'm not saying you are right or wrong, as I have not looked into the details of this "green new deal"

But do understand that every single bit of progress working class people have gained has come from leftists and progressives moving the overton window to the left. While you may claim that people like AOC or Jeffrey Corbyn, or Bernie Sanders are "controlled", even if this is true, I see the prominence of these politicians as a net positive as opposed to having the typical conservative (George Bush) a fake progressive (Barak Obama) or fake rightwing populist (Donald Trump) politician in office. It is at the very least a small step in the right direction.

The elites have always had to go along with some of these mass movements to avoid revolt and chaos, so the idea that some elites may be backing these things doesn't necessarily mean they are nefarious, I would suggest rather it would be a case of damage limitation on their behalf.

That is how the elites have always operated within progressive movements. I would bet that Macron in France would have wished that he gave in to more left wing demands, and he probably wouldn't be facing the "yellow vests".

Personally I am all for a new "new deal" (spending for infrastructure and jobs) I dont really care if they are "green" or not. If the environment can be helped in the process then why not.
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 11:46 #6

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Socialist countries are a real workers paradise :iitm:
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 19:23 #7

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I'm not saying you are right or wrong, as I have not looked into the details of this "green new deal"

But do understand that every single bit of progress working class people have gained has come from leftists and progressives moving the overton window to the left. While you may claim that people like AOC or Jeffrey Corbyn, or Bernie Sanders are "controlled", even if this is true, I see the prominence of these politicians as a net positive as opposed to having the typical conservative (George Bush) a fake progressive (Barak Obama) or fake rightwing populist (Donald Trump) politician in office. It is at the very least a small step in the right direction.

The elites have always had to go along with some of these mass movements to avoid revolt and chaos, so the idea that some elites may be backing these things doesn't necessarily mean they are nefarious, I would suggest rather it would be a case of damage limitation on their behalf.

That is how the elites have always operated within progressive movements. I would bet that Macron in France would have wished that he gave in to more left wing demands, and he probably wouldn't be facing the "yellow vests".

Personally I am all for a new "new deal" (spending for infrastructure and jobs) I dont really care if they are "green" or not. If the environment can be helped in the process then why not.

I'm all for helping the environment and for renewable tech in the hands of individuals but who is going to control that tech under the green revolution?

I don't share your belief that the left and right are seperate. I think the cabal plays both ends against the middle. I think the right wing helps the corporations by destroying regulations while the left wing pushes for all powerful government

The technocracy will be a merger of corporate power and government with the apparatus of government used to control the workers on behalf of the corporate run technocracy. I see zionism and communism as coming from the same people who are using a hegelian dialectic

You can get glimpses through this fraud for example with foreign policy where you'll see both wings supporting war
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 19:25 #8

Not Crazy at all! The real Democrat agenda unveiled: Murder the babies, demolish all buildings, ban guns, block the sun, kill free speech, ban all airplanes and declare a new UTOPIA
By PatriotRising -
February 9, 2019



With the release of “Green New Deal” plan authored by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (and endorsed by Kamala Harris, Corey Booker and other prominent Democrats), the real agenda of the Democrats has now become clear.

That agenda is best described as this: Murder the babies, demolish all buildings, block the sun, kill free speech, ban all airplanes and declare a new utopia.

The “Green New Deal” plan, covered in my podcast below, demands the following astonishing (insane) proposals now being pushed by Democrats:

Exterminate the air travel industry and end all air travel, crushing the entire tourism and hotel industry and making the military’s national defense impossible to achieve.
Demolishing ALL buildings in America (or refurbishing them) in order to rebuild them to be “eco-friendly.”
Constructing railroads across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans to connect world cities on different continents by rail.
Granting government benefits to all people who are “unwilling” to work. Yes, the Green New Deal quite literally says the “unwilling” should be given free money and endless entitlements from the government.
Slaughtering all cattle, nationwide, over the next 10 years and outlawing cattle ranching.
Eliminating all jobs related to fossil fuels energy, including transportation, energy exploration, geological science, combustion engines and more.

This “Green New Deal” is being pushed with a straight face by lunatic Leftists who, if they got their wish, would economically obliterate the United States of America. (Hint: That’s their goal, actually.) They also believe they are morally justified in their demands because they’ve all been brainwashed to believe that carbon dioxide is a poison — an insane, quack science conspiracy theory against chemistry — and that more liquid water in the oceans (instead of frozen ice) would somehow destroy the planet.
The “Green New Deal” would be economic suicide for America

It should be obvious to any thinking person at this point that outlawing fossil fuels in the next ten years would have apocalyptic effects on the United States, including (but not limited to) the following:

A near-total collapse of food production, since nearly all agriculture relies on diesel engines for farming, harvesting and transportation of food. Cue mass starvation, Venezuela style…
A massive increase in the consumption of fossil fuels as diesel-burning construction equipment is needed to destroy and then rebuilt tens of millions of homes and commercial buildings across the United States. According to current estimates, 30,000 buildings would need to be destroyed and rebuilt each day across America over the next ten years in order to achieve the Ocasio-Cortez “Green New Deal” goal. This is government genius at work: Destroying and then rebuilding millions of buildings, burning diesel fuel the whole time, then calling it “eco-friendly.”
A collapse of the air travel industry, tourism industry and hotel industry, displacing millions of works and causing widespread, across-the-board investment losses. But don’t worry, Ocasio-Cortez says the government will “guarantee” jobs for all people, including those who are “unwilling” to work.
A total collapse of nationwide pension funds as their investments in the stock market are wiped out by the economic implosion. With the energy industry wiped out, the food production industry flatlined, and air travel, tourism and hotels all but eliminated, the Ocasio-Cortez economy would mostly consist of the government paying people to destroy buildings and execute cows. This is the Green New Deal, in reality.

By the way, this insane agenda of total destruction and national suicide is bring protected and promoted by the evil tech giants like Twitter, Apple, Google and Facebook, all of which are now run by lunatic left-wing censors who silence any voice of reason while shielding Democrat lunacy from criticism or rational inquiry. In just the last few days, Twitter banned all Natural News accounts because I publicly criticized Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey for promoting a pump-and-dump cryptocurrency scam. So now Twitter silences people for exposing investment fraud, too.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is insane… but her insanity is shared by a shocking number of lunatic left-wing Democrats

Yes, Ocasio-Cortez is clinically insane. But her ideas — which are almost all rooted in communism and fascism — are shockingly popular among the drooling left-wing idiots who now run the tech giants, the media and the U.S. House of Representatives. If these people are allowed to gain power over the country, they will plunge America into an era of unprecedented human suffering, starvation and destitution.
patriotrising.com/not-crazy-a...-a-new-utopia/
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 20:47 #9

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iamawaveofthesea wrote:
Not Crazy at all! The real Democrat agenda unveiled: Murder the babies, demolish all buildings, ban guns, block the sun, kill free speech, ban all airplanes and declare a new UTOPIA
By PatriotRising -
February 9, 2019

You really dont expect me to take this rubbish seriously do you ?

I mean a guy who is promoting Thomas Sowell, Ron Paul, and Tucker Carlson on his website then goes on with a headline about

Democrats wanting to KILL THE BABIES, BAN THE GUNS, BLOCK THE SUN :facepalm: :facepalm:

This is some Alex Jones type garbage. I would not even waste my time reading such sensationalist nonsense.

Is AOC a satan worshipping, baby eating child molester as well ?

I mean for fuck's sake who actually believes this kind of nonsense. People who WANT to believe the worst things about their ideological opponents. People who believe in QAnon or people who believe Trump is "fighting the deepstate" Its pretty pathetic to be honest.

Unfortunately this is what the alternative media has come to. Filled with fake news, all manner of hyperbole, click bait, sensationalist bullcrap, and of course get the craziest looking picture of AOC that you can find out there, because really she is a blood drinking goblin, because AlexJones or some other crazy nut said it.

If you want to be taken seriously as a journalist or an ivestigator, you dont push healines like that.
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 20:53 #10

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You really dont expect me to take this rubbish seriously do you ?
Democrats wanting to KILL THE BABIES, BAN THE GUNS, BLOCK THE SUN .

ok lets break this down

have you heard the democrats recent proposals to allow abortion right upto birth and even after the birth in cases where the doctors and parents decide it?
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 21:09 #11

have you heard of democratic proposals for more and more gun controls?

have you seen moves to block free speech and no platform conservative speakers whether at college campuses or by big tech companies?

have you heard about their proposals to knock down or alter buildings they deem not 'green' enough...

what part of all of this have you not heard coming from the democrats?
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 21:31 #12

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iamawaveofthesea wrote:
Vancity Eagle wrote:
You really dont expect me to take this rubbish seriously do you ?
Democrats wanting to KILL THE BABIES, BAN THE GUNS, BLOCK THE SUN .

ok lets break this down

have you heard the democrats recent proposals to allow abortion right upto birth and even after the birth in cases where the doctors and parents decide it?

that is in the special case if the birth is threatening the mothers physical health. This isn't a mandate to just abort at will. But of course Republican spin doctors will go to work, because that is what they do.

Where do they get the nerve to pretend that they care about "life" anyways when they let 20,000 americans die every year because they cant pay for health care, or when they dont do anything about police murdering people, or when they vote for sanctions which starve hundreds of thousands of people to death (mostly children) or when they vote for wars that kill millions.

clearly Republicans dont give a fuck about life, so it gets pretty annoying to hear them go off about abortion all of the time, especially in a disingenuous fashion.
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 10 Feb 2019 21:37 #13

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iamawaveofthesea wrote:
have you heard of democratic proposals for more and more gun controls?

they call for sensible gun regulation, which most americans agree with. If there is driving regulation, which there is, it doens't mean you are banning cars or driving.
have you seen moves to block free speech and no platform conservative speakers whether at college campuses or by big tech companies?

protesting conservative speakers is not censorship. They are in fact using their free speech to combat lies and deception. The worst forms of censorship currently are being pushed by the Trump administration and their anti-BDS laws.
have you heard about their proposals to knock down or alter buildings they deem not 'green' enough..
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No I haven't. I'm not fully on board with all these "green" stuff i told you.
what part of all of this have you not heard coming from the democrats?

most of the stuff you are taking out of context. The worst attacks on free speech are comming from Trump and the Republicans. They just past a bill that every Republican in the senate voted for (except Rand Paul) which is a blatant attack on free speech. Something like over 30 Democrats opposed it.
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 11 Feb 2019 00:00 #14

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I've no idea why you bother debating this commie stain on humanity

all he does is invert the truth , bolster the official narrative and flat out try and deny things we can see happening with our very own eyes

just look at one of his lies on this thread alone

'' the new york abortion bill is only about helping mothers who are dying in child birth ''

total fucking bullshit

that's all ways been the case anyway , that a doctor will save the mother if there is a choice between baby and mother

thats all ready in place no need for new laws

he knows damn well this is about being able to abort new born babies or babies minutes away from birth in the third trimester

he knows this and then denies it

trying to pretend its all lies made up by '' white supremacists ''

the guy is a lunatic , if half of the shit he types he actually believes I sincerely think he is under some form of demonic possession

it's like talking to a gold fish

one time around the bowl and his brain gets reset and he's back on the demon train again

it's disgusting to watch
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The Green Deal road to technocracy 11 Feb 2019 00:33 #15

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Cortez is an insane spic, forget her and her retarded sense of entitlement. A nation that's only achieved mushy beans and a drug problem don't figure on the grand scale of things.
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Well Cortez is pretty much under sustained attack by EVERYBODY.

Nanci Pelosi and the Democratic establishment don't like her.

Whoopi Goldberg had some harsh things to say about her on the View

The republicans don't like her.

Donald Trump and the alt right are triggered by her and can't stop obsessing about a 20 year old

When you have everybody comming out against you, you must be doing something right.

She is the most popular politician in America right now, and she is just a 20 something year old first term congresswoman.

Why is she such a threat, and why are the elites on both sides attacking her.


It's funny that we have a mob connected, billionaire serving, Zionist war mongering, racist president who lies every time he opens his mouth, and right wing dupes have more to say about a 20 something year old first term congresswoman. :facepalm:

That just pretty damn stupid.
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hey commie

'' waddabout dis den ''

thehill.com/policy/national-security/429063-senate-intel-chairman-we-dont-have-anything-to-prove-collusion

Senate intel chairman: 'We don't have anything' to prove collusion between Trump campaign and Russia

I think we all realized that when they arrested Roger fucking Stone lol

so anyway

how about that Russian collusion are you jsut going to drop that shit like a hot potatoe or what ?

or do we get another two years of you repeating the same bullshit over and over again ?

don't you ever get tired of being such a looser ?
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When you have everybody comming out against you, you must be doing something right.

Yeh except Trump lol then it's RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST ERMAGEDON
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She is the most popular politician in America right now, and she is just a 20 something year old first term congresswoman.

lol what in the actual fuck is this ?

OK OK I take it all back

this is almost funny

if you weren't genuine commie destroyers of everything decent I might laugh a bit more

but this ..... omfg
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iamawaveofthesea wrote:
Slaughtering all cattle, nationwide, over the next 10 years and outlawing cattle ranching.

hahahaha omg this is killing me hahahahaha

good luck with that you FUCKING LUNATICS

hahahahahaha
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Lux Interior wrote:
Cortez is an insane spic, forget her and her retarded sense of entitlement. A nation that's only achieved mushy beans and a drug problem don't figure on the grand scale of things.

If it were just her it would be one thing but when her New Green Deal came out in the media there were 60 House members and nine senators co-sponsoring it with her. They are deadly serious about this.
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