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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 29 Jun 2013 23:04 #1

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18393391
British people are on average nearly three stone (19kg) heavier than 50 years ago, but who or what is to blame?

Contrary to popular belief, we as a race have not become greedier or less active in recent years. But one thing that has changed is the food we eat, and, more specifically, the sheer amount of sugar we ingest.

"Genetically, human beings haven't changed, but our environment, our access to cheap food has," says Professor Jimmy Bell, obesity specialist at Imperial College, London.

"We're being bombarded every day by the food industry to consume more and more food.

"It's a war between our bodies and the demands our body makes, and the accessibility that modern society gives us with food. And as a scientist I feel really depressed, because we are losing the war against obesity."

One of the biggest changes in our modern diet stems back to the 1970s when US agriculture embarked on the mass-production of corn and of high-fructose corn syrup, commonly used as a sweetener in processed foods.

This led to a massive surge in the quantities of cheaper food being supplied to American supermarkets, everything from cheap cereal to cheap biscuits. As a result, burgers got bigger and fries (fried in corn oil) got fattier.

According to nutritionist Marion Nestle, this paved the way for obesity.

By the mid 1980s, corn syrup had replaced sugar in fizzy soft drinks. The move made financial sense from the soft drink companies' point of view, as corn syrup was a third cheaper than sugar.

But it was also sweeter and, argue some scientists, more addictive. In the next two decades, the average American's consumption of fizzy drinks almost doubled - from 350 cans a year to 600.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 29 Jun 2013 23:20 #2

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Sugar is in everything nowadays, if it's not fresh and hasn't been prepared from scratch. It's mad. Salt being heavily added to everything is a problem too.

I know cooking is a drag (trust me, lol, I know it more than anyone! I hate cooking) but it's a task we all have to know how to do if we are going to survive, so we might as well learn to do it properly, from scratch with fresh, in-season ingredients.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 29 Jun 2013 23:23 #3

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Apperently about 80% of food in supermarkets now didn't exist 100 yrs ago :(
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 29 Jun 2013 23:32 #4

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Jadoo wrote:
Apperently about 80% of food in supermarkets now didn't exist 100 yrs ago :(

Wow. That's a Nasty Fact. What the hell are we eating nowadays?
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 29 Jun 2013 23:37 #5

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Jadoo wrote:
Apperently about 80% of food in supermarkets now didn't exist 100 yrs ago :(

Without wanting to be contentious, about 100% of supermarkets didn't exist 100 years ago either. :D
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 29 Jun 2013 23:44 #6

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Every time I see a large person, they're always necking down fizzy drinks. My ex gf was a bit of a big girl, and she couldn't get enough of pop, she used to drink it every day.
My diet needs an overhaul :D phe has shown me the true way :D I'm going to learn to cook healthy stuff, and I'm also cutting right down on the bread. I do like bread though, toast and all that, with butter and jam on and stuff :chuckle:
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Good point :)
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 30 Jun 2013 00:13 #8

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Meh. Technically, supermarkets were around 100 years ago - they just weren't owned by "one person". People banded together in one place to form a big market (as opposed to setting up somewhere alone or going from door-to-door to sell their wares) in order to attract shoppers to a place they could buy everything on the one site - much like the supermarkets of today.

Underneath, and not too deep down, the template for today's society is still in place. It just has less "owners" nowadays and is much more about profiteering than ever before.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 30 Jun 2013 02:30 #9

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Food addiction is no different than cigarettes & alcohol...
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 30 Jun 2013 11:31 #10

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I think sugar, corn syrup and also vegetable oils/palm oil in just about every processed food are factors.

Humans havent evolved to handle palm oil... its even in a lot of confectionary, the stuff they pass off as 'chocolate' these days. ( sugar, artificial flavours and palm oil, perhaps with a bit of real cocoa in there somewhere :hahano: )

As someone who has played with their weight (ive gone from being totallly lean/ripped,... then weight on, then back again and so on... i know what puts weight on, and its deffo refined sugar, corn syrup and things with shitty veg oils in them, including bread... those things are far worse than animal fats imo.

And i think veg oils are as bad if not worse than sugar, the body apparently (so ive heard/read) handles/responds to some veg oils as though they are a toxin and stores it as fat.

i agree with irre about the soft drinks.
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 30 Jun 2013 13:58 #11

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Fast food, as in how easy it is to obtain. Years ago, as a rule we had 3 meals a day (I realise this wasn't the case for everyone) and didn't snack in between. Now we can get food cooked and prepared for us 24/7, with more and more people filling their face with crap all through the day.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 30 Jun 2013 14:41 #12

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Fast food, as in how easy it is to obtain. Years ago, as a rule we had 3 meals a day (I realise this wasn't the case for everyone) and didn't snack in between. Now we can get food cooked and prepared for us 24/7, with more and more people filling their face with crap all through the day.

Exactly...

And the sugar, corn syrup and also vegetable oil in some of the fast food is like dope to the obese...
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 01 Jul 2013 10:39 #13

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I watch people at work, forever swilling cans of fizzy pop, and eating crisps and "chocolate" bars. Not much fruit or veg in evidence, and unbelievable how many drink down pints of cold milk :(
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 01 Jul 2013 14:15 #14

I eat all kinds of sugary and refined junk and I;m skinny, I think it's a combination of factors probably overeating is the sole cause in a lot of cases.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 01 Jul 2013 14:19 #15

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Fast food, as in how easy it is to obtain. Years ago, as a rule we had 3 meals a day (I realise this wasn't the case for everyone) and didn't snack in between. Now we can get food cooked and prepared for us 24/7, with more and more people filling their face with crap all through the day.

Exactly...

And the sugar, corn syrup and also vegetable oil in some of the fast food is like dope to the obese...
I know people who do hard manual labour who eat mostly fastfood and take aways and they're not overweight at all, so maybe lifestyle is the main part of it not necessarily the additives in some foods. I eat all those inverted sugar syrups, cheap peanut butter filled with weird oils and cheap jam that is basically sugar and chemicals made to resemble fruit and I'm not fat, nor do I have fillings, maybe it's also down to genetics. My granmothers on both sides have never eaten "healthily", full fat, salt with meals, well fed all their lives but they're still going great guns into and beyond their 70's.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 01 Jul 2013 14:30 #16

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Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
I know people who do hard manual labour who eat mostly fastfood and take aways and they're not overweight at all.

How old are these people?

Teens who i coach basketball can eat McDonalds 3 meals a day every day and still stay chiseled.

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But people in their 30's-40's-50's who eat like that will be a fucking fat mess.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 01 Jul 2013 14:38 #17

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Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
I know people who do hard manual labour who eat mostly fastfood and take aways and they're not overweight at all.

How old are these people?

Teens who i coach basketball can eat McDonalds 3 meals a day every day and still stay chiseled.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chiseled

But people in their 30's-40's-50's who eat like that will be a fucking fat mess.
Fifties, seriously less people have physical jobs nowadays, they're mostly sitting at desks eating tea and biscuits or fast food on their breaks.

Builders, mechanics, labourers, carpenters gardeners and many other workers stay in shape despite hard drinking and fast food diets.

Drivers tend to get well fat, there's a lot of fat fuckers work in the DWP aswell sitting at their desks eating biscuits all day.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 01 Jul 2013 22:03 #18

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Drivers tend to get well fat

This is true (although not in my case lol).

It depends on the professional drivers particular role really. The average multi-drop delivery driver actually gets a lot of exercise....in & out of his vehicle on a regular basis.

Ever tried doing 70 drops a day? :hahano: The stress alone will take the pounds off you....

Taxi drivers though (and admittedly long-distance lorry drivers too) live a quite sedentary working life, sat on their arses all day and usually eating all the wrong things, fast food.
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What caused the obesity crisis in the West? 02 Aug 2013 16:00 #19

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Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
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Ultimate Seeker ™ wrote:
I know people who do hard manual labour who eat mostly fastfood and take aways and they're not overweight at all.

How old are these people?

Teens who i coach basketball can eat McDonalds 3 meals a day every day and still stay chiseled.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chiseled

But people in their 30's-40's-50's who eat like that will be a fucking fat mess.
Fifties, seriously less people have physical jobs nowadays, they're mostly sitting at desks eating tea and biscuits or fast food on their breaks.

Builders, mechanics, labourers, carpenters gardeners and many other workers stay in shape despite hard drinking and fast food diets.

Drivers tend to get well fat, there's a lot of fat fuckers work in the DWP aswell sitting at their desks eating biscuits all day.

I don't agree with that part in bold...

But alot of people who work in the health care industry are fat.
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