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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 28 Jul 2014 19:34 #41

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Autism was diagnosed in the forties. The diagnostic criteria have not change since the time of it's first diagnosis.

The prevalence of autism has skyrocketed since the introduction of MMR.

The autism that existed prior to MMR may well have had an environmental cause. The condition know as "Pinks" in the thirties mimicked all of the symptoms of autism but was found to be caused by mercury paint in childrens toys and furniture.

Whilst there is no doubt that "autism" exists as a condition outwith the realm of vaccine damage, the definition of autism is loose enough for a wide range of symptoms to be diagnosed as autistic, and the condition being diagnosed as autism, in this its golden age, varies radically in its presentation from "classic" autism.

Before MMR regressive autism was virtually unheard of , now it is the norm.

Autistic symptoms commonly manifest in the post vaccine period and involve behavioral REGRESSION. Autism previously involved a failure to develop normally that became apparent, or obvious at around the age of three years; retrospective analysis tended to show a failure to DEVELOP normally that became clearly noticeable only at landmark stages of development, but which in hindsight were evident to parents and observers from a far younger age. Vaccine damage, on the other hand, involves evidence of perfectly normal development and, not even a failure in further development, but a catastrophic REVERSAL of behavior. This is not the normal or historical pattern of autistic development.

The famous "studies" will turn out to be about as legitimate as Tony Blair's WMD dossier, indeed the famous Danish study seems to be mired in fraud, fund seeking and statistical gerrymandering.

REGRESSIVE "autism" appeared in a big was after the introduction of MMR and similar vaccines, it was vanishingly rare before their introduction. REGRESSIVE autism manifests shortly after the administration of the MMR vaccine, but you put your faith in government and big-pharma propaganda?
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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 28 Jul 2014 22:21 #42

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Some say heavy metals in vaccines are responsible for autism's rise in popularity not MMR?
Fact is nobody know the cause.
I'm not going to go into it all again as it's been posted.
There really is no proof and evidence is there to select from.
I'm also not going into Dr Wakefield's tests again as per his small range of test subjects and subjectiveness.

The MMR connection was really a MSM hoax supported by most the daily rags & broadsheets.
As pointed out with the global warming co2 Al Gore hoax it's been shown false and dropped by the press.
This MMR = autism story was a MSM topic now adopted by the AM after being dropped.

If there was a good study done, then I would be willing to change my mind or consider doing so, until then the jury is out for autisms cause.

The choices appear to be MMR, Mercury or other heavy metals, genetics. diagnostic criteria changes.
''In 1991 Wing and Gould, together with Carole Murray, set up the Centre for Social and Communication Disorders. It soon became clear that the HBS, which was designed for research with children, was not detailed enough for the clinical diagnostic work of the centre that was concerned with diagnosis of people of all ages. The team expanded the areas covered by the HBS to include sections on infancy, developmental domains, the triad of impairments, repetitive routines, emotional difficulties and challenging behaviour. The HBS schedule was renamed the Diagnostic Interview for Social and Communication Disorders (DISCO). It was adapted to cover all ages, all levels of ability and conditions on the borderlines of autism. Thanks to the fundraising efforts of Lady Astor of Hever, author of Loving Olivia, the first DISCO manual was able to be printed.

From the experience of training professionals to use the DISCO, it became clear that a separate section for recording clinical judgement was necessary. This had to be based on all the information obtained from the rest of the schedule, psychological assessment, observation and any other sources of reliable information. This DISCO section asks the interviewer to make a judgement concerning the quality of the social interaction, social communication, social imagination and pattern of activities. To do this it is essential for the interviewer to have adequate clinical experience in the field.''.
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The Assessment Procedure

Children and adults together with their parents/carers are seen for a whole day. A detailed developmental history is taken using the Diagnostic Interview for Social and Communication Disorders (DISCO). This is a semi-structured interview designed to elicit information about the individual’s past history up to current day to day functioning. At the same time an in-depth neuro psychological assessment is carried out with the child or adult concerned. In addition, information is collected from previous assessments and any other relevant sources. All this information is brought together to formulate a clear diagnosis and recommendation of needs. In-depth reports are prepared. Care is taken to consider the interventions already in place and where it is possible to endorse current practice. If further intervention or new options for an individual are felt necessary, guidance is given for consideration.

Occasionally adults are seen for whom no informant is available to give a developmental history. In these cases we interview the person concerned about their current difficulties, their skills and disabilities and what they can recall of their childhood.

A clear understanding of the nature of the difficulties experienced by the child or adult concerned is very important for the person, families and professionals involved. This enables professionals working with the person/family to provide appropriate intervention and support disco.nemisys1.uk.com/page.asp?section=0001000100030006§ionTitle=Diagnosis+and+Assessment
So even if there has not been many changes to the DSM the assessment method changed after 1991 :up:
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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 28 Jul 2014 22:33 #43

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TheAmerican Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is the main diagnostic reference used by mental health professionals and insurance providers in the United States. The current (fourth) edition, which was published in 1994, is commonly referred to as the "DSM-IV." The diagnosis of autism requires that at least six developmental and behavioral characteristics are apparent, that problems are evident before age three, and that there is no evidence for certain other conditions that are similar
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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 28 Jul 2014 22:45 #44

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A new study sheds more light on the question of what is causing the recent increase in the rate of diagnosis of autism. Professor Dorothy Bishop from the University of Oxford studied adults who were diagnosed in 1980 with a developmental language disorder. She asked the question – if these people were subjected to current diagnostic criteria for autism, how many of them would be diagnosed today as having autism? She found that 25% of them would. (Bishop 2008)
In the 1990′s the diagnosis of autism was changed to autism spectrum disorder (ASD) – the new name reflecting the changing concept of autism to include a broader spectrum of symptoms, including much more subtle manifestations. In particular a diagnostic entity known as Aspergers syndrome, which is essentially a subtle manifestation of autism features, was classified as part of ASD. Any time you broaden a category the number of individuals that fit into that category is likely to increase
www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-increase-in-autism-diagnoses-two-hypotheses/

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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 28 Jul 2014 23:14 #45

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There once was a thread called 'The Neanderthal theory of autism.'
But the anti vaccine brigade found it non permissible. :noway:
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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 04 Aug 2014 23:00 #46

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There once was a thread called 'The Neanderthal theory of autism.'
But the anti vaccine brigade found it non permissible. :noway:

It's just not a very good theory.

The syndrome afflicting modern children is NOT autism. The modern syndrome involves a regression of development, autism is a failure to develop.

The increase in this syndrome occurred in exact correlation to the widespread introduction of vaccines. The overwhelming majority of symptoms only appear after the administration of vaccines. The world will never run out of stupid.
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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 20 Aug 2014 15:02 #47

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A Study by Focus Autism Foundation Finds: CDC Whistleblower Reveals Widespread Manipulation of Scientific Data and Top-Down Pressure on CDC Scientists to Support the Fraudulent Application of Government Policies on Vaccine Safety.

A top research scientist working for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) played a key role in helping Dr. Brian Hooker of the Focus Autism Foundation uncover data manipulation by the CDC thatobscured a higher incidence of autism in African-American boys. The whistleblower came to the attention of Hooker, a PhD in biochemical engineering, after he had made a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for original data on the DeStefano et al MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) and autism study.

Dr. Hooker’s study, published August 8 in the peer-reviewed scientific journal Translational Neurodegeneration, shows that African-American boys receiving their first MMR vaccine before 36 months of age are 3.4 times more likely to develop autism vs. after 36 months.

According to Dr. Hooker, the CDC whistleblower informant — who wishes to remain anonymous — guided him to evidence that a statistically significant relationship between the age the MMR vaccine was first given and autism incidence in African-American boys was hidden by CDC researchers. After data were gathered on 2,583 children living in Atlanta, Georgia who were born between 1986 and 1993, CDC researchers excluded children that did not have a valid State of Georgia birth certificate — reducing the sample size being studied by 41%. Hooker explains that by introducing this arbitrary criteria into the analysis, the cohort size was sharply reduced, eliminating the statistical power of the findings and negating the strong MMR-autism link in African American boys.


Dr. Hooker has worked closely with the CDC whistleblower, and he viewed highly sensitive documents related to the study via Congressional request from U.S. Representative Darrell Issa, Chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The CDC documents from Congress and discussions that Hooker had with the whistleblower reveal widespread manipulation of scientific data and top-down pressure on CDC scientists to support fraudulent application of government policies on vaccine safety. Based on raw data used in the 2004 DeStefano et al study obtained under FOIA, Dr. Hooker found that the link between MMR vaccination and autism in African-American boys was obscured by the introduction of irrelevant and unnecessary birth certificate criteria — ostensibly to reduce the size of the study.

The results of the original study first appeared in the journal Pediatrics which receives financial support from vaccine makers via advertising and direct donations, according to a CBS News report. The DeStefano et al study is widely used by the CDC and other public health organizations to dismiss any link between vaccines and autism — a neurological disorder on the rise.

Dr. Hooker stated “The CDC knew about the relationship between the age of first MMR vaccine and autism incidence in African-American boys as early as 2003, but chose to cover it up.” The whistleblower confirmed this.

When asked if there could be any scientific basis for excluding children born outside of Georgia, Hooker responded, “I know of none, and none has been provided by the authors of the DeStefano study.” He added, ”The exclusion is reminiscent of tactics historically used to deprive African-Americans of the vote by requiring valid birth certificates.”

Dr. Hooker concluded further study is needed to determine why this specific effect (3.4-fold increase when MMR is administered prior to 36 months) is seen exclusively in African-American males, and determine whether delaying the first MMR vaccination should be advised for this population. A link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been conceded in cases compensated by the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

The CDC whistleblower informant, who has worked for the government agency for over a decade, remarked to Dr. Hooker in phone calls: “We’ve missed ten years of research because the CDC is so paralyzed right now by anything related to autism. They’re not doing what they should be doing because they’re afraid to look for things that might be associated.” The whistleblower alleges criminal wrongdoing of his supervisors, and he expressed deep regret about his role in helping the CDC hide data.

According to David Lewis, PhD, former senior-level microbiologist with the U.S. EPA’s Office of Research & Development, skewing scientific data to support government policies is a major problem at federal agencies, including EPA, CDC, and USDA. Lewis, who was terminated by EPA for publishing papers in Nature that questioned the science the agency uses to support certain regulations, believes top-down pressure on federal scientists and researchers working on government-funded projects in academia is jeopardizing public health.

“Working for the government is no different than working for corporations. You either toe the line or find yourself looking for another way to make a living,” Lewis says. ”No one would be surprised if Merck published unreliable data supporting the safety of its products. Why would anyone be surprised that the CDC is publishing skewed data to conclude that the vaccines it recommends are safe? We need a better system, where scientists are free to be honest.”

The Focus Autism Foundation is dedicated to providing information to the public that exposes the cause or causes of the autism epidemic and the rise of chronic illness — focusing on the role of vaccinations.

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The Neanderthal theory of autism. 26 Aug 2014 13:01 #48

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Vaccine Fraud: U.S. Mainstream Media Censors Whistleblower’s Explosive Story Secret letter to CDC head Dr. Julie Gerberding released

By Mike Adams

Global Research, August 25, 2014

The CDC whistleblower who has come forward with proof that the CDC knowingly covered up scientific evidence linking the MMR vaccine to autism has now been revealed as William W. Thompson, PhD.

#vaccinegate and #EndVaccineViolence

Natural News has acquired a letter from William Thompson to former CDC head Dr. Julie Gerberding, dated February 2nd, 2004. The date of this letter is important because a pivotal Institute of Medicine (IoM) meeting on vaccine safety took place just one week later on February 9th. (See the full letter below.)

In this letter, William Thompson says he will be “presenting the summary of our results from the Metropolitan Atlanta Autism Case-Control Study,” and he laments that the data will show MMR vaccines cause an increased risk of autism in youth African-American babies. He explains “I will have to present several problematic results relating to statistical associations between the receipt of MMR vaccine and autism.”



He then goes on to implore Dr. Gerberding to respond to questions that had been raised by “Representative David Weldon” regarding the integrity of CDC scientists working in the immunization program. He also explains that the CDC has been covering up the truth about the safety problems the agency’s own scientists had documented with vaccines, saying:

“I’ve repeatedly told individuals in the [National Immunization Program Office of Directors] over the last several years that they’re doing a very poor job representing immunization safety issues and that we’re losing the public relations war.”

In response to this letter, the CDC took deliberate action to retroactively alter the outcome of the autism study by arbitrarily eliminating most subjects from the study, thereby shrinking the sample size to a small data set which would not achieve statistical significance. This is a clear and irrefutable case of scientific fraud. This fraud allowed CDC scientists such as Colleen Boyle to testify before Congress that there was “no credible link” between MMR vaccines and autism.

CNN caught blatantly censoring CDC whistleblower story

The mainstream media is pulling out all the stops to try to memory hole this breaking news story. When a citizen journalist posted the facts of the story to a CNN iReport page, CNN quickly removed it to prevent the public from learning the truth about this extraordinary moment in medical history.

The story has now been reposted at another CNN iReport page which will no doubt be censored and removed by CNN very quickly as well. But here’s the screen shot of what this page showed at the time of this writing:



All other mainstream media news sources, including the New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, etc., have been ordered to deliberately censor this story, just as Natural News reported last week. There is a desperate attempt under way right now to silence the CDC whistleblower and sweep this entire story under the rug before it explodes beyond the control of the corporate-run media.

What the truth-telling media has to say about the massive media cover-up

Here’s some of the independent reporting on what’s taking place right now:

From TruthBarrier.com:

CNN is now overtly complicit in the mainstream media blackout of the developing story of CDC whistleblower Dr. William Thompson, who stepped forward and revealed that he had partaken in cooking data attempting to minimize the truth about the toxicity of the MMR vaccine in infants and the increased risk of developing autism.

Yesterday, on CNN’s “iReport” page, the story was posted. As of late last night, the article had 45,232 views, 178 comments,( mostly people literally begging CNN and other media to cover it,) and a staggering 17 thousand shares. This clearly is what we call “news worthy.”

However, CNN has now deleted the story, claiming it was “flagged” for being “in violation” of iReport’s policy. In violation of what? CNN’s appeasement policies toward the vaccine industry?

From Jon Rappoport’s blog:

CNN: the most trusted name in twisted information.

CNN headquarters are right down the street in Atlanta from the CDC, where the MMR vaccine data were cooked, stepped on, and buried.

I guess it’s just too much trouble for a reporter or editor to hop in a cab and go over there and ask a few tough questions.

Well, there are really no questions to ask, are there? CNN and the CDC are the “already asked and answered” dancing twins, who can read each other’s minds.

Vaccines? Never met one they didn’t love. Adverse effects? Damage? Never heard of such a thing.

From Age of Autism:

The CDC’s William Thompson, whistleblower to Brian Hooker on the MMR study and lead author on another on mercury in vaccines, has probably ruined more than a few of his colleagues’ August vacations at Hilton Head.

More broadly, these “leaks” in the bulwark of conventional wisdom have been coming for a long time, and not just from people on the inside with information to share.

I’m talking about leaks like all the parents of children on the other side of the elevated-risk stats — MMR shots at 12 months, illness, regression, autism.

Leaks like parents who saw it with other vaccines, at other times — parents who were willing to share what happened to try to keep it from happening again.

Leaks like the original Verstraeten study at the CDC that found a high risk of autism for infants who got the most ethyl mercury by the first month of life, as opposed to the least.

Leaks like the CDC coverup of the soaring autism rate in Brick Township, N.J.

Leaks like all the evidence from low-and-no-vaccine populations with low-to-no autism. Leaks like the unwillingness of the public health authorities to even study the issue.

Leaks like the Hannah Poling case, which the government conceded was triggered by autism, but buried by obfuscation. Leaks like the Unanswered Questions study showing autism all over the place in unacknowledged vaccine “court” rulings.

Leaks like the SafeMinds parents identifying autism as a “novel form of mercury poisoning” more than a decade ago.

Leaks like the Merck scientists who came forward to say the company faked data to make its mumps vaccine look effective.

Leaks like the connection between the first cases of autism reported in the medical literature, in 1943, and the families’ exposure to the new ethyl mercury vaccines and fungicides.

Leaks like the whole catastrophic half-a-millennium love affair between the medical industry and mercury, one that should have ended long before the autism tidal wave started carrying away America’s children.

Leaks like the most obvious one of all — the explosion of autism and the vaccine schedule at the same time Congress gave the nation’s corrupt drug makers a free ride in court, a ride on the backs of America’s vaccine-injured children and their stumbling families.

These leaks are becoming a flood, and the flood a tidal wave, just like the autism tidal wave, and the wave is washing away the whole wall of denial built by the same people who just about now are running out of fingers and toes to plug them with.



www.globalresearch.ca/vaccine-fraud-u-s-mainstream-media-censors-whistleblowers-explosive-story/5397607?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=vac...wers-explosive-story
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Half of all children will be autistic in ten years’ time 04 Jan 2015 03:49 #49

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Shock Report : Half of all children will be autistic in ten years’ time
Lasha Darkmoon January 3, 2015 Other Writers
“At today’s rate, by 2025, one in two children will be autistic.”
— Dr Stephanie Seneff, Senior Research Scientist at MIT

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“In my view, the situation is beyond repair. We need to do something drastic.”
— Dr Stephanie Seneff

An edited abridgment of this article by Lasha Darkmoon, with pictures, captions and added notes.

For over three decades, Stephanie Seneff, PhD, has researched biology and technology, over the years publishing over 170 scholarly peer-reviewed articles. In recent years she has concentrated on the relationship between nutrition and health, tackling such topics as Alzheimer’s, autism, and cardiovascular diseases, as well as the impact of nutritional deficiencies and environmental toxins on human health.

At a conference last Thursday, in a special panel discussion about GMOs, she took the audience by surprise when she declared, “At today’s rate, by 2025, one in two children will be autistic.”

She noted that the side effects of autism closely mimic those of glyphosate toxicity, and presented data showing a remarkably consistent correlation between the use of Roundup on crops (and the creation of Roundup-ready GMO crop seeds) with rising rates of autism. Children with autism have biomarkers indicative of excessive glyphosate, including zinc and iron deficiency, low serum sulfate, seizures, and mitochondrial disorder.

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Half of all children will be autistic in ten years’ time 04 Jan 2015 04:36 #50

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I see those poison kid's more than ever. Thousand yard stare. Vacant eyes. Old peoples expression.
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ey that's great news!

If you get one as a brudder or sista you can go to the local casino and clean up rainman style.

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I see those poison kid's more than ever. Thousand yard stare. Vacant eyes. Old peoples expression.

And that was just your family this Christmas!
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ey that's great news!

If you get one as a brudder or sista you can go to the local casino and clean up rainman style.

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I see those poison kid's more than ever. Thousand yard stare. Vacant eyes. Old peoples expression.

And that was just your family this Christmas!
You trolled Fridays thread to troll me? And to what end?
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ey that's great news!

If you get one as a brudder or sista you can go to the local casino and clean up rainman style.

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I see those poison kid's more than ever. Thousand yard stare. Vacant eyes. Old peoples expression.

And that was just your family this Christmas!
You trolled Fridays thread to troll me? And to what end?

Just for kicks. :hahano: I'll try to be nice if you try also. :cool2:

Back on topic.. alternatively...

www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/glyphosate-the-new-bogeyman/

Though to be clear, I don't blindly accept debunking by anyone, no matter how credible they or their websites appear to be... who owns and runs sbm? Is there an agenda? Dr. Stephanie Seneff may well be a computer science researcher and not a biologist, but she is an MIT researcher, and one would hope she has used sound scientific method in her claims that glyphosates cause autism. Though the sbm article and commenters do make a good case against the claims....

Are glyphosates used outside of the states? I shall do my own research....

Edited to add: interesting.. Dr Seneff's primary expertise and credentials are related to computer science, but she does have a Batchelor degree in biology from MIT..... and glycophosphates are widely used around the world.. and though humans lack the shikimate pathway, our bacteria do not...

Maybe she is onto something.
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People don't seem to be able to make their mind up, is it vaccines, is it mercury(heavy metals, which btw are not in the mmr compound) is it this or is it that.

I've looked into it in some depth from a personal point of view, it's partly that Asperger's syndrome has only relatively recently been part of the autism spectrum, and now that a spectrum has been identified, it has a continuum.

The result of the identification of this continuum is diagnosing more cases, and people are getting better at spotting it.

It's always existed, though as populations have grown, so the cases of autism have grown, and the criteria for diagnosing it has changed.

There is a type of a developmental disorder called PDD-NOS (pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified) in which it presently falls out of the criteria for diagnosing the different forms of autism that are...

Types of autism spectrum disorder include Asperger syndrome, childhood disintegrative disorder, Rett syndrome, pervasive developmental disorder, not otherwise specified, and classical autism.

So once some of the PDD-NOS becomes 'specified' it may then create more cases of Autism, as the boundaries used for diagnosis/identification may again change, it may produce more categories.

It's a bit like saying, more types of bacteria are being caused, when in reality most 'new' bacteria has not formed recently, it's just being identified due to the advancement of science.

If you look in general at what constitutes being disabled, say in 2014, and compare that to 1814, you'll find that there is a lot more disability in 2014 than 1814, even if we take population growth into account, it's the recognition of disability that has changed 'conditions' now, that are diagnosed as a disability, for example Alzheimer's, it's not recently come into being, it just went undetected in the past until it was recognized , and subsequently recognized to be apparent much earlier in life that previously thought.
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One of my friends kids is autistic, alot of kids can't even get a fair chance at life anymore.
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Anyone could be forgiven for thinking it's all part of a greater plan.



We can look forward to a growing workforce of Delta's and Epsilons in the future.
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Mumps outbreaks definitive proof vaccines have failed!

If you watch hockey, then you've probably noticed that some of the teams have been shorthanded as guys disappear from the ice -- including one of the top players in the league, Sydney Crosby.

But this isn't a walkout, some million-dollar contract dispute or even rash of injuries in a sport known for some pretty ghoulish ones.

No, it's an outbreak of MUMPS -- and what's not being widely reported is that just about every player to come down with it had been vaccinated.

If that's not a sure sign of the futility of mass vaccination, I don't know what is.

Already, the few reports to mention that the players had all been vaccinated are busy making nonsensical excuses. Maybe the shot "wore off." Maybe they didn't get their boosters. Maybe they need a third booster -- which, of course, will lead to calls for EVERYONE to get a third booster next.

What they won't say is that unlike many other pro sports leagues in the United States, hockey is full of guys born in commie Europe who didn't get any shots at all -- and THEY'RE not getting mumps.

This isn't some freakishly unusual incident. It's the latest proof that when you roll up your sleeve for a vaccine, you're buying more than a poke in the arm.

You're buying a pig in a poke.

Right now, there's a major whooping cough outbreak among kids in "Tax"achusetts. In one school alone, 15 kids caught the disease.

The pro-needle crowd was already blaming the state's famously generous vaccine opt-out laws... until they found out that EVERY KID in that school had been vaccinated.

That's right: Kids who got vaccinated are getting sick. And the kids who didn't haven't had a single case yet.

Clearly, vaccines aren't the cure-all we've been told they are. And just as clearly, skipping those shots isn't the recipe for tragedy the fearmongers want you to believe it is.

If anything, passing on vaccines allows your immune system to grow, develop and STRENGTHEN -- and the proof is right there in today's headlines.

Next time some quackpot doc aims a needle at you or your loved ones, feel free to tell him where to stick it.

Needling the needlers,

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Half of all children will be autistic in ten years’ time 05 Jan 2015 20:14 #58

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“At present, intelligent people do not have their children vaccinated, nor does the law now compel them to. The result is not, as the Jennerians prophesied, the extermination of the human race by smallpox; on the contrary, more people are now killed by vaccination than by smallpox.”
― George Bernard Shaw

“The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective.”
― Leonard G. Horowitz

“I am no longer 'trying to dig up evidence to prove' vaccines cause autism. There is already abundant evidence....This debate is not scientific but is political”
― David Ayoub M.D.

“Immunization is total nonsense! More than that is what's hidden from people about vaccines. They are dangerous. One child out of five has overwhelming disabilities from vaccines -- neurological problems, seizures.”
― Guylaine Lanctot

“Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time.
Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defense of their conviction.”
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The skyrocketing autism (poisoning) is pollution in the environment & in the needles.
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Half of all children will be autistic in ten years’ time 06 Jan 2015 14:38 #59

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wiikkidd wrote:
“At present, intelligent people do not have their children vaccinated, nor does the law now compel them to. The result is not, as the Jennerians prophesied, the extermination of the human race by smallpox; on the contrary, more people are now killed by vaccination than by smallpox.”
― George Bernard Shaw

“The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective.”
― Leonard G. Horowitz

“I am no longer 'trying to dig up evidence to prove' vaccines cause autism. There is already abundant evidence....This debate is not scientific but is political”
― David Ayoub M.D.

“Immunization is total nonsense! More than that is what's hidden from people about vaccines. They are dangerous. One child out of five has overwhelming disabilities from vaccines -- neurological problems, seizures.”
― Guylaine Lanctot

“Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time.
Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defense of their conviction.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
The skyrocketing autism (poisoning) is pollution in the environment & in the needles.

Excellent post. I agree 100% and I speak from personal experience. I'll elaborate later.
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Half of all children will be autistic in ten years’ time 06 Jan 2015 16:20 #60

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wiikkidd wrote:
“At present, intelligent people do not have their children vaccinated, nor does the law now compel them to. The result is not, as the Jennerians prophesied, the extermination of the human race by smallpox; on the contrary, more people are now killed by vaccination than by smallpox.”
― George Bernard Shaw

“The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective.”
― Leonard G. Horowitz

“I am no longer 'trying to dig up evidence to prove' vaccines cause autism. There is already abundant evidence....This debate is not scientific but is political”
― David Ayoub M.D.

“Immunization is total nonsense! More than that is what's hidden from people about vaccines. They are dangerous. One child out of five has overwhelming disabilities from vaccines -- neurological problems, seizures.”
― Guylaine Lanctot

“Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time.
Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defense of their conviction.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
The skyrocketing autism (poisoning) is pollution in the environment & in the needles.

I'm not suggesting that people ought to take vaccines, it's just that there's not much credible evidence imo to connect them to Autism.

At times on this forum people ask for hard evidence and there is two studies here that suggest that there is no link between mmr vaccines and autism.

Here is just two studies, btw I'm not going to start a row about it, people can think what they like.

A study was done in Finland where about 1.8 million children were tracked for 14 years after having the MMR. NO cases of autism were reported. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1173183/
The United States, Canada, and more than 35 European countries now use MMR vaccine. Japan is the only country that recommends single measles and rubella vaccines, and there, measles is endemic and has led to epidemics. From 1992 to 1997, 79 deaths from measles occurred in Japan, whereas no deaths have occurred in the United Kingdom over the past decade
That was from the above link.

Please pay attention to the autism MMR graph.
www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html


I can not say for sure whether or not vaccines have any influence on autism, though I'm fairly sure that the MMR combination is not causing it.
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