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The Holocaust 09 Feb 2016 15:25 #1921

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''Not all of the prisoners died but you have never seen pictures of the ones who didn't, like those in the photo''


''A documentary movie made was made by the British, directed by Belsen survivors Alfred Hitchcock no less, with
footage shot when they entered Belsen, it is the source of the photo. The movie was shelved for 50 years...''

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The Holocaust 09 Feb 2016 17:18 #1922

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^^....'Never Again'...

Many, many, years ago I used to think Jews passionately stated those words for all to hear because they meant it for ALL PEOPLE, that Never Again, would they allow people to suffer needlessly without saying anything, that Never Again would people anywhere, of any background, be made to be smashed to smithereens without the Jews speaking up to say... NO...NEVER AGAIN!! because of what they themselves had been through, they could feel empathy and compassion for ANYONE who suffered under deep oppression and conflict.

I WAS NAIVE.

They do not mean Never Again for the gentiles, for the goyim, they mean Never Again for themselves.... and ONLY themselves.

Once I understood how Israel really came into existence it became the beginning of understanding the horrid reality. The REAL kick in the teeth is the realization that what the words are based on 'Never Again'.... will there be another 'Holocaust'..... is in itself a LIE because there was no holocaust where six million Jews were burned in ovens. So the Never Again is itself part of the falsehood.

So perhaps us goyim should say Never Again..... Never Again will we allow our lands to fall under the earthly power of internationalist Jews who seek only to destroy the fabric of our countries..... not without doing all in our power to oppose them in a way that does not compromise our values. Never Again will we be so naïve..

In one of the most amazing events to occur in occupied Germany since the second world war Historian Ursula Haverbeck made history in a defiant interview in which she openly trashed the very basis of the lie upon which all modern European social democratic states have been built. The elderly historian, brought into question the moral integrity of all Western political parties and academic institutions, exposing the official account of the second world war and the Holocaust for the lie it was on a television station which is the second largest in the world after Britain’s BBC.

Millions of surprised Germans sat on the edges of their sofas and gasped as for the first time in their lives the truth about the second world war was brought into their living rooms as the second largest broadcaster in the world took the risk of being shut down for the illegal offense of transmitting Holocaust denial by the criminal transnational Jewish financial occupation regime in Bonn.



ARD (full name: Arbeitsgemeinschaft der öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunkanstalten der Bundesrepublik Deutschland – Consortium of public broadcasters in Germany, details below at name) is a joint organization of Germany’s regional public-service broadcasters. It was founded in 1950 in West Germany to represent the common interests of the new, decentralized, post-war broadcasting services – in particular the introduction of a joint television network.



The ARD is the world’s second largest public broadcaster after the British Broadcasting Corporation, with a budget of €6.3 billion and 23,000 employees. The budget comes primarily from the licence fees.

UPDATE: URSULA HAVERBECK HAS NOW BEEN CHARGED WITH HOLOCAUST DENIAL AND WILL VERY LIKELY FACE A FIVE YEAR PRISON SENTENCE.

In a surprise night-time raid eighty-six year old German historian Ursula Haverbeck had her door kicked in and her house stormed by an armed anti-terrorist Police swat team after her recent Germany-wide television appearance. The secret police trashed her home throwing it’s entire contents onto the floor in a search for what are believed to be documents which might incriminate the official account of the Holocaust. Three other historian colleagues of hers have also had their homes broken into and their books and documents seized by the security police. She is being charged under draconian anti-Jewish hate speech and Holocaust denial laws.


SEEN IN THIS PHOTO: GERMAN ANTI-TERROR POLICE SWAT TEAMS ARE INSTRUMENTS OF INTIMIDATION OFTEN USED TO TRY TO SILENCE UNARMED POLITICIANS, ACADEMICS AND INTELLECTUALS. IN A NATION WHOSE WHOLE EXISTANCE AS A MODERN STATE IS ENTIRELY BASED ON LIES THERE IS ZERO TOLERANCE FOR POLITICAL DISSENT.

Ms Haverbeck was ethnically cleansed from her home at the end of the war along with millions of other Germans and has been victimised ever since by the Jews who run her country like a psychological gulag through mind-control and fear.

SOME NOTES ON THE HOLOCAUST LIBEL:

THE BIGGEST SINGLE SOURCE OF HOLOCAUST PROPAGANDA IN MODERN TIMES IS JEWISH HOLLYWOOD. MOST PEOPLE’S VIEWS OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR ARE FORMED BY WATCHING THEIR MOVIES AND THE JEWISH PROPAGANDA DOCUMENTARIES ON JEWISH OWNED OR RUN CHANNELS SUCH AS THE HISTORY CHANNEL, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL OR THE BBC.

beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/german-television-exposes-holocaust-lies-historic-broadcast-shocks-germany-3167580.html

I am still on a learning curve when it comes to what happened and what is still happening in regards to the 'holocaust' and the horrid after affects of the lie but what has been learned so far has been truly disturbing, also the deep denial in many people in even considering that the holocaust didn't happen, largely due to decades of government, media and Hollywood propaganda.
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The Holocaust 09 Feb 2016 17:31 #1923

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Cinta,

By posting that info, does this mean you have doubts about the official holocaust narrative?


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The Holocaust 09 Feb 2016 22:05 #1924

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Voltaire wrote:
Cinta,

By posting that info, does this mean you have doubts about the official holocaust narrative?

Yes thats right Voltaire,but I have already expressed these doubts a few times here on TZ
After reading comments,and watching a few video's my eyes were opened
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I don't believe anymore that there were 6 million people killed,or gassed simply because it's no possible,
I have not become a revisionist,and I do not agree with the motivation of The National Socialist regime
of depriving people from their freedom and putting them in camps simply because they did not qualify
as healthy Aryans,or the way Hitler has invaded neighbouring countries such as my own.
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The Holocaust 09 Feb 2016 22:27 #1925

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Thank you Cinta

About the holocaust we can agree that 6 m were not exterminated.

Regarding NSDAP racial policy and German military strategy to secure its integrity after Britian and France declared war, is not the subject of this thread. A good place for this discussion is the What if everything you were taught about WW2 was a lie.

In your understanding was there a German plan to kill jews by any means simply because they were jewish?


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The Holocaust 10 Feb 2016 01:35 #1926

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Cinta wrote:
Voltaire wrote:
Cinta,

By posting that info, does this mean you have doubts about the official holocaust narrative?

Yes thats right Voltaire,but I have already expressed these doubts a few times here on TZ
After reading comments,and watching a few video's my eyes were opened
truth-zone.net/forum/government-and-authority/64344-the-holocaust.html?start=1780#176221

I don't believe anymore that there were 6 million people killed,or gassed simply because it's no possible,
I have not become a revisionist,and I do not agree with the motivation of The National Socialist regime
of depriving people from their freedom and putting them in camps simply because they did not qualify
as healthy Aryans,or the way Hitler has invaded neighbouring countries such as my own.

Well it's good you're open minded enough to doubt the so called ''Holocaust'', and to also admit you doubt it. Another thing to consider now is why many of these people were put in camps in the first place. It was mainly down to the spread of Communism throughout Europe, Communists were declared enemies of the state, and it's a fact Jews were well known for being Communist revolutionaries (often violent), they were over-represented in the Communist parties and as partisans. Remember too that not every camp was a labour camp either, some were transit camps, and set up as part of the transfer agreement to move Jews out of Germany. The so called ''Gas Chambers'' were delousing rooms, due to a severe typhus epidemic. Typhus is a severe and life threatening illness caused by the infection of the Rickettsia bacteria. The Rickettsia bacteria is carried by body lice, ticks, fleas and such. Cyclone B was the trade name of a cyanide-based pesticide, which was used to kill the ticks and mites which cause Typhus. Cyclone B was never used to gas anybody, neither is there any evidence that suggests so either. No extermination plan was ever found.That's because one never existed in the first place. Such a plot to kill so many people would need extensive planning. Most of the people in these camps died due to the intensive and extensive Allied bombing of Germany, which eventually brought Germany to a stand still. Medicine and food to the camps, and many other parts of Germany were completely cut off as a result
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The Holocaust 10 Feb 2016 06:06 #1927

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You have to wonder if the camps were a way of getting Jews away from the real holocaust, firebombing of cities.

Problem, reaction, solution applies on multi levels
To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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The Holocaust 10 Feb 2016 13:14 #1928

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I don't believe the various types of camps were set up to protect or move Jews away from the firebombing or the terror bombing of German cities. It's certainly safe to say though they knew Jews were moving out of German cities en masse, but I don't think this was a deliberate plan or set up as a prelude to the devastating allied bombing campaign. I've no doubts it was a major factor in their decision to do so though. Many people did also die in these camps for various different reasons remember, mainly from disease or malnutrition, due to supplies being cut off towards the end of the war (because of the Allied bombing campaign). Though nobody seems to know the real number of deaths in these camps? If they were a ploy or deliberate set up to protect or save Jews from the bombing campaign or from any pending danger, as you are suggesting, then they appear to have done a lousy job of doing so..

My point obviously being I don't think the National Socialists were in on some secret plot to kill their own people while saving the Jews. Which is what you seem to be suggesting? Or am I mistaken?
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The Holocaust 10 Feb 2016 13:40 #1929

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Shut up and go away with your pathetic pay per post one liners. Nobody is listening. You uninteresting and mundane little man.

Questioning so called unquestionable ''Historical events'' or any part of history is NOT ''anti-semitism'' or ''hate speech'', as some of you fragile minded individuals keep trying to suggest..
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The Holocaust 10 Feb 2016 16:31 #1931

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Nothing to see here.
WW2 was a breeze.
Nobody killed, by anyone.
Especially not Jews.
They had it easy.
FFS lads, the Axis lost that war.
Get over it.
None of us were born then, why bother now?
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The Holocaust - Rapper offends Jews 21 Feb 2016 19:19 #1933

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Black Rapper 's lyrics suggest the Holohoax is a Hoax. Oh My
Rapper B.o.B’s New Song Invoking Antisemitism, Holocaust Denial Has Jewish Group ‘Deeply Troubled’

It must be serious then.
A Jewish human rights organization expressed concern on Wednesday over a new song by a popular US rapper that includes lyrics promoting antisemitic conspiracy theories and cites a Holocaust denier, The Algemeiner has learned.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) was responding to Tuesday’s release of B.o.B’s “Flatline,” the lyrics of which include: “But before you try to curve it, do your research on David Irving; Stalin was way worse than Hitler, That’s why the POTUS gotta wear a Kippa.”

Irving is a historian who has questioned the existence of the Nazi gas chambers during World War II.

ADL CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt issued a statement saying that though it is unclear whether the rapper intended for the lyrics to be “taken seriously,” it is “nonetheless troubling that B.o.B seems to have given new life to the antisemitic conspiracy theory of Jewish control of the US government, while handing a free publicity gift to the notorious Holocaust denier, David Irving.”

“His lyrics are irresponsible and could potentially promote antisemitic beliefs,” Greenblatt added, “especially in those people who might already be infected by such notions.”

The ADL noted that the song was quickly removed from the Internet, seeing this as a “positive first step to acknowledging a mistake here, but it is not nearly enough. We hope that B.o.B will find a way to communicate clearly to his fans that Holocaust denial is unacceptable and that he will apologize for invoking the age-old conspiracy theory about Jewish control of the government.”

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The Holocaust 21 Feb 2016 20:12 #1934

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GMP wrote:
Nothing to see here.
WW2 was a breeze.
Nobody killed, by anyone.
Especially not Jews.
They had it easy.
FFS lads, the Axis lost that war.
Get over it.
None of us were born then, why bother now?


Ting is. No one is claiming that no one died . Are they?.
Ting is. Peoples is claiming an exaggeration for nefarious reasons.
And why are you suggesting that everyone should "get over it" now
that the truth is getting closer ? :ponda:
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At the time when I was contributing to the dif pit, before I came to TZ,
the HOLOCAUST battle cry of the dif pit gate keeper hasbara trolls was:



"WHO CARES! GET OVER IT!"



Meanwhile they banned most of the self-thinking members, purged,
hid and/or deleted the relevant threads on this subject.


Thanks for reminding me, hokuspokus.


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hokuspokus wrote:

Ting is. No one is claiming that no one died.
"Ting" is, they do.

The naztalgic Hitler fanboys and -girls here are clinging to "no document, so didn't happen". They reject the obviously faked "witness" accounts but suddeny when it fits their propaganda stance they are embraced as "proof" that those holiday camps were "actually not that bad" and when the targeted suffering of normal innocent ordinary jewish people is pointed out, the page quickly is turned to "Dresden" and "Hamburg" like it's some Holocaust Competition of Non Sequiturs.

To what you say below; that marks the difference between a dumb denier and a researching revisionist.

Pity the former seems the dominant force around here. Truth claimers, unable to handle relevant questions, hindering their "All the forces used propaganda but Dolfy H. was an honest man leading a noble regime"-dream.
Ting is. Peoples is claiming an exaggeration for nefarious reasons.
And why are you suggesting that everyone should "get over it" now
that the truth is getting closer ? :ponda:
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Please gaia,

Do not keep us in suspense.

Post the evidence that Germans deliberately killed jews, just for being jews during the period 1939-1945.


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Please gaia,

Do not keep us in suspense.

Post the evidence that Germans deliberately killed jews, just for being jews during the period 1939-1945.

If the narrative of the nazis hating the jews specifically were bad, why did they specifically kidnap them from the occupied countries...?

Mein Kampf is clear enough too. Not having a document on the destruction is also no proof "nothing happened".

The problem arises when people take comfort in a story, if that's Yad Vashems or Dennis Wise's, doesn't matter.

The rest of my arguments and questions still stand untouched on the previous page.
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No Forensic Evidence then?
Rhetoric is not proof.


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No Forensic Evidence then?
Rhetoric is not proof.
The people are gone. I've stated the options for what could have happened to them. No reactions however.

This nihilist truth claiming that "well; then just nothing happened" is harmful to any serious investigation.

Not to mention the fact that kidnapping hundreds of thousands of people, forcing them to work for your filthy regime and letting them die of starvation and/or typhus is evil.
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