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TOPIC: What is the reality of Germania?

What is the reality of Germania? 19 Dec 2014 11:36 #1

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How much of what is told about Hitler's plans for Germania are fact and how much Allied propaganda fiction?
Hitler was confident of winning World War II and planned to give Berlin a monumental makeover by 1950. A group in Berlin has collected records about his 'Germania' vision -- and plans to lead tours through what's left of the old construction site.

Hitler never liked Berlin. He saw it as a dirty, liberal-minded place and was disdainful of its leftist political leanings. But he had an idea for fixing it after World War II came to an end. His famous vision of Berlin for 1950 -- planned in detail by his architect, Albert Speer -- was a grand Fascist city called "Germania," and a new Berlin exhibition looks at models and physical traces of it left behind by Hitler's regime.

The exhibit, called "Myth Germania," shows just how far from reality Hitler's mind wandered when he dreamed about Germany's future. One centerpiece is a scale model of the Volkshalle, a gargantuan domed auditorium that Speer imagined rising over the River Spree. The Volkshalle dome would have risen 290 meters (951 feet) into the air, higher than some New York skyscrapers. The exhibit's model makes scale models of the Brandenburg Gate and the Reichstag look like toys from a model train set.

The exhibit also includes building plans, photos and documentation from Nazi schemes to relocate Jews in Berlin. And it features a model from the Hitler movie "The Downfall," showing the so-called "North-South Axis" -- a multi-lane boulevard Speer hoped to build from the Volkshalle to a future "Südbahnof" near Tempelhof airport.

Other German cities like Nuremberg and Munich were also due for a Fascist makeover after the war, as was Linz in Austria, but Hitler wanted Berlin to soar on an epic scale. His Volkshalle was modelled on Hadrian's Pantheon in Rome, and in 1942 he said, "Berlin will be comparable as a world capital only to Egypt, Babylon or Rome. What is London or Paris in comparison?"

Underground Tours of Germania?

Models and building plans of Germania have been exhibited in museums before, but the new show's organizers, "Berliner Unterwelten," want to lead tours through Germania construction sites dug by the Nazis under Berlin's Tiergarten park. Blind tunnels started as early as 1938 -- subway and traffic tunnels, mainly, lined with marble -- were rediscovered in the 1960s. These remnants of Germania were first made semi-accessible after 2001, when a new underground road called "Tiergarten Tunnel" was finished.

But Sascha Keil, spokesman for Berliner Unterwelten -- which normally conducts tours of unused tunnels and bunkers in Berlin -- said it was too early to announce a formal start date for the tours. "It will be several weeks from now," he estimated. "That's public property (under the Tiergarten), so it takes time to get permission."

For now he hopes the Germania exhibit will find a permanent home in Berlin. Berliner Unterwelten has rented an independent space for the show through 2008 near the Holocaust Memorial and the Brandenburg Gate -- about half a kilometer from the old planned site of the Volkshalle.
m.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-540558.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=https://www.google.com.au/
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What is the reality of Germania? 19 Dec 2014 13:43 #2

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Giesler says that Speer was wrong to represent the Volkshalle as a symbol of World Domination (Weltherrschaft). Speer in his Playboy magazine interview states:

Hitler believed that as centuries passed, his huge domed assembly hall would acquire great holy significance and become a hallowed shrine as important to National Socialism as St. Peters in Rome is to Roman Catholicism. Such cultism was at the root of the entire plan.

Nevertheless, Giesler remarked that Hitler never made plans for world domination and that to suggest as much is not only nonsense (Unsinn) but 'Speer Rubbish' (Speerlicher Quatsch).
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What is the reality of Germania? 19 Dec 2014 18:19 #3

There's a reason why Adolf Hitler is the most lied about man in history. His ideas were truly revolutionary, and offered viable solutions to many of the social/economical ills of this world. Unfortunately he was forced into focusing his attention on a war that he not only didn't want, but also tried his utmost best to avoid.

Ofcourse the History books don't want people to know the truth.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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What is the reality of Germania? 20 Dec 2014 16:55 #4

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There's a reason why Adolf Hitler is the most lied about man in history. His ideas were truly revolutionary, and offered viable solutions to many of the social/economical ills of this world. Unfortunately he was forced into focusing his attention on a war that he not only didn't want, but also tried his utmost best to avoid.

Ofcourse the History books don't want people to know the truth.

Bet you were wanking furiously while typing that...box of tissues gone ffs :facepalm:
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What is the reality of Germania? 20 Dec 2014 18:10 #5

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Zorro wrote:
There's a reason why Adolf Hitler is the most lied about man in history. His ideas were truly revolutionary, and offered viable solutions to many of the social/economical ills of this world. Unfortunately he was forced into focusing his attention on a war that he not only didn't want, but also tried his utmost best to avoid.

Ofcourse the History books don't want people to know the truth.

I don't doubt that major lies have been told regarding Hitler. An engineering graduate, I awoke shortly after 911. I quickly identified the absurdity in that official narrative, which caused me to question other official narratives and everything I have been told since.

However, indiscriminate attacks on ALL Jews is bigoted and moronic. The NSDAP and SS had Jews amongst their ranks. Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Jews are bankers. Some Jews are even Christians.....

www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=31039
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What is the reality of Germania? 20 Dec 2014 19:19 #6

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Zorro wrote:
There's a reason why Adolf Hitler is the most lied about man in history. His ideas were truly revolutionary, and offered viable solutions to many of the social/economical ills of this world. Unfortunately he was forced into focusing his attention on a war that he not only didn't want, but also tried his utmost best to avoid.

Ofcourse the History books don't want people to know the truth.

I don't doubt that major lies have been told regarding Hitler. An engineering graduate, I awoke shortly after 911. I quickly identified the absurdity in that official narrative, which caused me to question other official narratives and everything I have been told since.

However, indiscriminate attacks on ALL Jews is bigoted and moronic. The NSDAP and SS had Jews amongst their ranks. Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Jews are bankers. Some Jews are even Christians.....

www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=31039

Why should looking at history from a different perspective and outside of the official line be associated with discrimination and hatred in the first place? It's never discrimination, hatred, or bigotry to speak the truth. It's pure folly and illusion to think otherwise. I don't think anybody agrees with indiscriminate attacks on anybody either. I certainly have never come across any serious researcher who advocates discrimination or harm on anybody, or any one group of people. It's those who shout these accusations, lies and absurdities from the rooftops like crows in distress at those speaking the truth that put this false perception into the public ''consciousness''. People are simply sick of all the lies and absurdities that have been forced down their throats for decades now. Someday these lies will collapse under their own weight.

''Wise man build his house on rock, Foolish man build his house on sand, the rain came down the floods they roar, the house on sand did fall''

Furthermore those that advocate violence you'll find are controlled opposition, for the purpose of smearing and suppressing genuine research, and researchers. All these skin head so called ''neo-nazis'' and other hate groups only serve to suppress the truth, by smearing by association good people who are spreading the truth.
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What is the reality of Germania? 20 Dec 2014 19:49 #7

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Zorro wrote:
Mr Happy wrote:
Zorro wrote:
There's a reason why Adolf Hitler is the most lied about man in history. His ideas were truly revolutionary, and offered viable solutions to many of the social/economical ills of this world. Unfortunately he was forced into focusing his attention on a war that he not only didn't want, but also tried his utmost best to avoid.

Ofcourse the History books don't want people to know the truth.

I don't doubt that major lies have been told regarding Hitler. An engineering graduate, I awoke shortly after 911. I quickly identified the absurdity in that official narrative, which caused me to question other official narratives and everything I have been told since.

However, indiscriminate attacks on ALL Jews is bigoted and moronic. The NSDAP and SS had Jews amongst their ranks. Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Jews are bankers. Some Jews are even Christians.....

www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=31039

Why should looking at history from a different perspective and outside of the official line be associated with discrimination and hatred in the first place? It's never discrimination, hatred, or bigotry to speak the truth. It's pure folly and illusion to think otherwise. I don't think anybody agrees with indiscriminate attacks on anybody either. I certainly have never come across any serious researcher who advocates discrimination or harm on anybody, or any one group of people. It's those who shout these accusations, lies and absurdities from the rooftops like crows in distress at those speaking the truth that put this false perception into the public ''consciousness''. People are simply sick of all the lies and absurdities that have been forced down their throats for decades now. Someday these lies will collapse under their own weight.

''Wise build his house on rock, Foolish man build his house on sand, the rain came down the floods they roar, the house on sand did fall''

Furthermore those that advocate violence you'll find are controlled opposition, for the purpose of smearing and suppressing genuine research, and researchers. All these skin head so called ''neo-nazis'' and other hate groups only serve to suppress the truth, by smearing by association good people who are spreading the truth.

To be honest, 'The Greatest Truth Never Told' has blown my mind and I am only half way through.. but I must be careful to filter even what Denis presents before my eyes, but I cannot doubt all of it.

Adolf Hitler, the only man to jail a Rothschild... and JFK apparently claimed history would in time be kinder to Hitler.... interesting.

I like what the moderator says on Reddit when links to the documentary caused a stir there:

"To those who think (maybe even correctly) that this documentary was vote brigaded to the top, please get a glass of ice and open a can of "Hitler did nothing wrong" sit back and enjoy the show. Surely the existence of this one documentary isn't going to end the world, it will be up for a few days and then down the memory hole with everything else. If you find yourself in a panic and forgot to bring a towel, a concierge will be around to your table shortly with a moist towelette".
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What is the reality of Germania? 18 Aug 2016 22:09 #8

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From my point of view the main building - if it is not just the usual propaganda fake-
looks like a mixture of the White House and St. Peter's Basilica with the Taj Mahal.

A good combination of European and Asian ingenuity, derived from one common source.

In fact it looks like the exact counterpart of the current wave of cubism

... if you know what this means 'nodge nodge wink'.

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What is the reality of Germania? 18 Aug 2016 22:30 #9

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From Mr Cappy's post above.
Adolf Hitler, the only man to jail a Rothschild...

If everything claimed about them is true and he knew it, he should have jailed them all and all their associates. Anybody want to hazard a guess why that never happened?
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What is the reality of Germania? 19 Aug 2016 02:36 #10

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Even the one "jailed" by Dolfy Rothschild was liberated from the "harsh" conditions of his detention by Himmler.

Few powerful people jail their own family, that's why it didn't happen.

That one story seems enough to keep the propaganda puppets like Cappy happy.
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