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DENMARK: NEW DOCUMENTS REVEAL LENIN WAS A GERMAN AGENT 07 Apr 2015 16:47 #21

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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise

The media isn't there to cover the news
It's there to cover the news up

All establishment lies pass through three stages
First, they are accepted as being self evident
Second, they are exposed by diligent research
Third, they are enforced

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DOUBLE TROUBLE 07 Apr 2015 17:15 #22

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I suggest that posters post on the other recently started thread about Lenin's funding, no point having two threads going simultaneously on the same topic.

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DOUBLE TROUBLE 07 Apr 2015 17:21 #23

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
I suggest that posters post on the other recently started thread about Lenin's funding, no point having two threads going simultaneously on the same topic.

:dunno:


It is NOT at all the same topic, as you know, but on the contrary, it's a response thread to this one
with the propagandist headline and the zio prop contents by you.

So you can go on posting the usual mainstream zio prop perhaps without being disturbed
by too much truth.

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"The truth must be repeated over and over again,
because error is repeatedly preached among us, not
only by individuals, but by the masses. In periodicals
and cyclopaedias, in schools and universities; every-
where, in fact, error prevails, and is quite easy in the
feeling that it has a decided majority on its side."

~ J. W. v. Goethe

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DENMARK: NEW DOCUMENTS REVEAL LENIN WAS A GERMAN AGENT 07 Apr 2015 18:25 #24

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rodin wrote:
I call fake.

Disappointing you do not even drop a comment on this.
Both men never met.
The resident shill announced
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please make my profile inactive, I no longer want to have any connection to this forum.

yet he is trolling further. :facepalm:

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the lice are only going to jump onto other typhus victim

Prime example of holocaustianity mental issues, clinically insane, and utterly ill informed, a danger to public health if this dude was working for CDC.
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Lenin funded by Germany. 07 Apr 2015 18:36 #25

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The Sisson Documents are a set of 68 Russian-language documents obtained in 1918 by Edgar Sisson, the Petrograd representative of the U.S. Committee on Public Information. Published as The German-Bolshevik Conspiracy, they purported to demonstrate that during World War I Trotsky and Lenin, as well as other Bolshevik leaders, were agents in the pay of the German government that used them to bring about Russia's withdrawal from the conflict. Their authenticity was debated even as they were widely publicized to discredit the Russian Revolution.

In 1956, George F. Kennan in an article in the Journal of Modern History claimed that they were forgeries.

George Frost Kennan (February 16, 1904 – March 17, 2005) was an American advisor, diplomat, and historian, known best as an advocate of a policy of containment of Soviet expansion at the end of World War II. He later reversed himself on containment. He lectured widely and wrote scholarly histories of the relations between USSR and the United States. He was also one of the group of foreign policy elders known as "The Wise Men".

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PFIZIPFEI wrote:
Blue_Tackler wrote:
I suggest that posters post on the other recently started thread about Lenin's funding, no point having two threads going simultaneously on the same topic.

:dunno:


It is NOT at all the same topic, as you know, but on the contrary, it's a response thread to this one
with the propagandist headline and the zio prop contents by you.

So you can go on posting the usual mainstream zio prop perhaps without being disturbed
by too much truth.

.

So you say that the other recent 'Lenin funding' thread is unlike this thread, yet you post the same information on both, so if they are unalike, which one are you trolling?
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Lenin funded by German Tax Payers. 08 Apr 2015 11:54 #27

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I'm not a follower of Churchill or any leader per se....

It's a very interesting comment that he makes here though.
“In the middle of April [1917] the Germans took a sombre decision. Ludendorff refers to it with bated breath. Full allowance must be made for the desperate stakes to which the German war leaders were already committed. They were in the mood which had opened unlimited submarine warfare with the certainty of bringing the United States into the war against them. Upon the Western front they had from the beginning used the most terrible means of offense at their disposal. They had employed poison gas on the largest scale and had invented the ‘Flammenwerfer.’ Nevertheless it was with a sense of awe that they turned upon Russia the most grisly of all weapons. They transported Lenin in a sealed truck like a plague bacillus from Switzerland into Russia.”

Winston S. Churchill
The World Crisis, Volume five.
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DENMARK: NEW DOCUMENTS REVEAL LENIN WAS A GERMAN AGENT 08 Apr 2015 12:05 #28

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I've reposted this article because I'm hoping for the 'revisionist opinion' ?
DENMARK: NEW DOCUMENTS REVEAL LENIN WAS A GERMAN AGENT

Copenhagen| Construction workers working on the renovation of the basement of an old warehouse in the Danish capital, have discovered many boxes of documents dating from 1917 and 1918, that allegedly confirm that Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known as Lenin, would have been for many years an active agent of the German Secret Service. The files are linked to the Handels og-Eksport Kompagniet, an import-export company that was used as a front organization by the Bolsheviks before and during the revolution, and which presumably served to enable the transfer of German funds, weapons and supplies to the Bolsheviks.

The workers were attempting to consolidate a heavily damaged brick wall in the basement of an 19th century warehouse situated at the 73 Amaliegade, in the district of Frederiksstaden,when they noticed a hidden room behind the brick, holding a large safe. Expert locksmiths intervened to open the safe, and revealed 20 000 Imperial German Reichsmarks, as well as thousands of documents linked to the former shipping company and the Imperial German Secret Service.

Realizing the possible historical value of their find, the workers contacted the archaeology department of the Aarhus Universitet, handing them the documents for research and preservation purposes. A team of specialists directed by Professor Arnbjørn Sørensen, has read and analyzed the various papers and were astounded to realize that they dealt with Lenin and the Russian revolution.

All in all, a total of 32 537 different pieces of archive linked to the company were found on the site, including cargo and conveyance data, financial records, legal permits, business contracts and navigation logbooks. It is however the 321 documents linked to the German secret operations that have attracted by far the most attention.

Most of these papers carry orders emerging from German ambassador Hans Freiherr von Wangenheim, and are destined to two Russian agents codenamed “der Bankier” (the banker) and “Maulwurf” (the mole), which have been identified respectively as Alexander Parvus and Vladimir Lenin. According to these documents, Parvus would have served as Lenin’s liaison officer, transmitting him the orders and the material that came from the Germans through Jakob Fürstenberg, Lenin’s most trusted agent who was also known by various aliases such as Hanecki, Kuba, or his Party name, Ganetsky.

An elaborate account of a meeting that took place between the Bolshevik leader, Parvus and Baron von Wangenheim on April 13 1917, during Lenin’s stopover in Stockholm, provides an incredible new perspective on the October revolution, as it now seems clear that the action was planned by the German military. The three men discuss the events to come and plan their course of action. The obvious aim of the operation was to disintegrate Russian resistance during the First World War by spreading revolutionary unrest. The documents show that Lenin was in fact an agent part of an elaborate three-point proposal: the infiltration of Bolshevik propaganda into Russia; an international press campaign against Czarism; organizing massive strikes under the slogan “Freedom and Peace.”

The records and logbooks show that thousands of weapons were sent to the Bolsheviks, as well as more than 15 million Marks and hundreds of tons of Equipment and supplies.
The records and log books show that thousands of weapons were sent to the Bolsheviks, as well as more than 15 million Marks and hundreds of tons of equipment and supplies.
Several contemporary politicians had already alleged that Lenin worked for Germany, but without presenting any solid proof. Aleksandr Kerensky, Grigory Aleksinsky, and other Russian political opponents, had already accused the Bolsheviks, especially Lenin—of being Imperial German agents provocateurs, but presenting forged and inconclusive evidence. British prime minister Winston Churchill had also blamed the Germans for the the rise to power of the Bolsheviks, writing “They transported Lenin in a sealed truck like a plague bacillus from Switzerland into Russia“.

All the tests and analysis realized until now on the files and their content, have confirmed their authenticity and legitimacy. These new documents can therefore be considered as irrefutable proofs of Lenin’s link with the German Secret Service and the complicity of the German military in the Bolshevik revolution. Professor Sørensen says he is conscious that these new facts will certainly create some controversy, but that that they are “too important historically to be ignored”.
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Lenin funded by German Tax Payers. 08 Apr 2015 12:33 #29

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World War One - How the German Agent Lenin Came to Power in 1918
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Lenin funded by Germany. 08 Apr 2015 14:08 #31

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Vladimir Lenin Was Part Jewish, Say Declassified KGB Files



Soviet Communist leader Vladimir Ilyich in Petrograd (now St. Petersburg) in January 1918

This post is in partnership with Worldcrunch, a new global-news site that translates stories of note in foreign languages into English. The article below was originally published in Le Temps.

(MOSCOW) — A recently opened exhibition in Moscow's State Historical Museum is shedding some light on a long-guarded Russian secret: the origins of Soviet founding father Vladimir Lenin. Lenin's maternal grandfather, the exhibition revealed, was born Jewish.

This fascinating morsel of information, gleaned from declassified KGB files, is not a minor detail in a country where anti-Semitism was a recognized state doctrine for decades. Starting in the 1930s, the Soviet regime —spurred on by its leader Joseph Stalin — launched a violent discriminatory campaign against Jewish citizens.

Born in 1870, Lenin identified himself simply as Russian. His official biography mentions only his Russian, German and Swedish origins. But one of the exhibition's priceless pieces adds a key new element to the official narrative.

In a letter to Stalin in 1932 — six years after Lenin's death — Anna Ulyanova, Lenin's older sister, wrote that their maternal grandfather "came from a poor Jewish family and was, according to his baptismal certificate, the son of Moses Blank." Blank was born in Zhitomir, Ukraine. In her letter, Ulyanova said her brother "had always thought highly of Jews." She also urged Stalin to reveal Lenin's Jewish background, concluding that "it would be wrong to hide it from the masses."

Stalin, however, ordered Ulyanova to keep Lenin's Jewish roots under wraps. A few years later, Stalin began to purge Jews from among the leaders of the revolution. Prior to his death in 1953, furthermore, he was preparing to send the whole Jewish population living in the Soviet Union to concentration camps in Siberia.
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Lenin funded by Germany. 10 Apr 2015 14:29 #32

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Bolshevik Bankers

In 1922 Soviet Russia’s first international bank was created, Ruskombank, headed by Olof Aschberg of the Nye Banken, Stockholm, Sweden. The predominant capital represented in the bank was British. The foreign director of Ruskombank was Max May, vice president of the Guaranty Trust Company.[35] Similarly to “the Bolshevik of Wall Street,” William Boyce Thompson, Aschberg was known as the “Bolshevik banker” for his close involvement with banking interests that had channeled funds to the Bolsheviks.

Guaranty Trust Company became intimately involved with Soviet economic transactions. A Scotland Yard Intelligence Report stated as early as 1919 the connection between Guaranty Trust and Ludwig C. A. K. Martens, head of the Soviet Bureau in New York when the bureau was established that year.[36] When representatives of the Lusk Committee investigating Bolshevik activities in the USA raided the Soviet Bureau offices on May 7, 1919, files of communications with almost a thousand firms were found. Basil H. Thompson of Scotland Yard in a special report stated that despite denials, there was evidence in the seized files that the Soviet Bureau was being funded by Guaranty Trust Company.[37] The significance of the Guaranty Trust Company was that it was part of the J. P. Morgan economic empire, which Dr. Sutton shows in his study to have been a major player in economic relations with Soviet Russia from its early days. It was also J. P. Morgan interests that predominated in the formation of a consortium, the American International Corporation (AIC), which was another source eager to secure the recognition of the still embryonic Soviet state. Interests represented in the directorship of the American International Corporation (AIC) included: National City Bank; General Electric; Du Pont; Kuhn, Loeb and Co.; Rockefeller; Federal Reserve Bank of New York; Ingersoll-Rand; Hanover National Bank, etc.[38]

The AIC’s representative in Russia at the time of the revolutionary tumult was its executive secretary William Franklin Sands, who was asked by US Secretary of State Robert Lansing for a report on the situation and what the US response should be. Sands’ attitude toward the Bolsheviks was, like that of Thompson, enthusiastic. Sands wrote a memorandum to Lansing in January 1918, at a time when the Bolshevik hold was still far from sure, that there had already been too much of a delay by the USA in recognizing the Bolshevik regime such as it existed. The USA had to make up for “lost time,” and like Thompson, Sands considered the Bolshevik Revolution to be analogous to the American Revolution.[39] In July 1918 Sands wrote to US Treasury Secretary McAdoo that a commission should be established by private interests with government backing, to provide “economic assistance to Russia.”[40]

Armand Hammer

One of those closely associated with Ludwig Martens and the Soviet Bureau was Dr. Julius Hammer, an emigrant from Russia who was a founder of the Communist Party USA. There is evidence that Julius Hammer was the host to Leon Trotsky when the latter with his family arrived in New York in 1917, and that it was Dr. Hammer’s chauffeured car that provided transport to Natalia and the Trotsky children. The Trotskys were met on disembarkation at the New York dock by Arthur Concors, a director of the Hebrew Sheltering and Immigrant Aid Society, whose advisory board included Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb and Co.[41] Dr. Hammer was the “primary owner of Allied Drug and Chemical Co.,” and “one of those not so rare creatures, a radical Marxist turned wealthy entrepreneur,” who lived an opulent lifestyle, according to Professor Spence.[42] Another financier linked to Trotsky was his own uncle, banker Abram Zhivotovskii, who was associated with numerous financial interests including those of Olof Aschberg.[43]

The intimate association of the Hammer family with Soviet Russia was to be maintained from start to finish, with an interlude of withdrawal during the Stalinist period. Julius’ son Armand, chairman of Occidental Petroleum Corporation, was the first foreigner to obtain commercial concessions from the Soviet Government. Armand was in Russia in 1921 to arrange for the reintroduction of capitalism according to the new economic course set by Lenin, the New Economic Policy. Lenin stated to Hammer that the economies of Russia and the USA were complementary, and in exchange for the exploitation of Russia’s raw materials he hoped for America’s technology.[44] This was precisely the attitude of significant business interests in the West. Lenin stated to Hammer that it was hoped the New Economic Policy would accelerate the economic process “by a system of industrial and commercial concessions to foreigners. It will give great opportunities to the United States.”[45]

Hammer met Trotsky, who asked him whether “financial circles” in the USA regard Russia as a desirable field of investment? Trotsky continued:

Inasmuch as Russia had its Revolution, capital was really safer there than anywhere else because, “whatever should happen abroad, the Soviet would adhere to any agreements it might make. Suppose one of your Americans invest money in Russia. When the Revolution comes to America, his property will of course be nationalized, but his agreement with us will hold good and he will thus be in a much more favorable position than the rest of his fellow capitalists.[46]

The manner by which Russia fundamentally changed direction, resulting eventually in the Cold War when Stalin refused to continue the wartime alliance for the purposes of establishing a World State via the United Nations Organization, traces its origins back to the divergence of opinion, among many other issues, between Trotsky and Stalin in regard to the role of foreign investment in the Soviet Union.[47] The CFR report had been prescient in warning big business to get into Russia immediately lest the situation changed radically.
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