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WWll And Why MacArthur Disappeared 06 Feb 2016 02:29 #1

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The main families of Spanish conquerors who still wield great influence and own most of Mexico and the Philippines will not be the object of my inspection in this thread.

I am more concerned with the disappearance of Hirohito's gold and rumours about Marcos getting some of it and how that happened as well as deals made with MacArthur and others associates. In the end you might think this equals the disappearance of the Russian gold and new owners of their industry when they became a democracy.


"Subj: South China Morning Post
Date: 11/2/99

Secret of Hirohito's hidden billions


It contains all the elements of a political thriller: family squabbles, power struggles, duplicity and murder. It involves a huge pile of
treasure - bullion worth billions stashed all over the world - and secret operations to retrieve it. It promises a sequel. And best of all, it is all true.

So say Sterling and Peggy Seagrave, in their latest work, The Yamato Dynasty (Bantam Press, $150), an incisive biography of five generations of Japan's imperial family since the Meiji Restoration in 1868. Their most controversial claims, however, centre on the country's longest-reigning emperor, Hirohito, who died in 1989.

The book claims to reveal for the first time the imperial family's alleged role in Japan's wartime looting of Asia - a covert operation named Golden Lily that was headed by Prince Chichibu, a brother of Hirohito, and involved the military, the secret service, underworld figures and businessmen.

It aims to expose the extent to which Washington and Tokyo supposedly collaborated to keep this secret and deceive the world into thinking the fighting had left Japan too poor to compensate its victims meaningfully.

It dashes once and for all assumptions that the imperial family was a fossilised symbol removed from day-to-day decisions during the war.

It also says that the people involved in Hirohito's exoneration of war crimes - including General Douglas MacArthur and former US president Herbert Hoover - walked away from the occupation with huge amounts of gold.

"I think this is going to turn out to be one of the great scandals of the century," Sterling Seagrave says matter-of-factly.

In a phone interview from his home in Europe, the former journalist explains how he and his wife first stumbled across information that would lead them on an 18-year investigation of the Japanese imperial family. He tiptoes around exactly where he lives because of possible retaliation over the latest revelations.

"In the course of working on a book about the Marcoses [The Marcos Dynasty] we discovered how much of the Japanese war loot Ferdinand Marcos had recovered," Seagrave says. "At the time we didn't really understand too well how the looting operation had occurred during World War II. We assumed there was collaboration between the Japanese army and the Japanese underworld. It was only after we published the book that we realised there were a number of imperial princes involved in the looting."

While Japan's war aggression is well documented, much less has been written about its plundering and the people killed to keep hideaways secret. According to the Seagraves, many POWs prisoners of war and Japanese soldiers were buried alive in vaults they dug for the booty, which included gold bullion, gems and artifacts. Others died when the ships they were on were scuttled so the treasure could be hidden at sea.

That it has taken so long for the imperial family to be implicated is not surprising because, according to Seagrave, "nobody had looked beyond Hirohito himself".

Seagrave says nobody had done a study of Prince Chichibu, who until now was believed to have sat out the war recuperating from tuberculosis in an estate near Mount Fuji, or Prince Takeda, a cousin of Hirohito who, Seagrave says, oversaw the collection and concealment of Japan's war loot, or any of the others, like Prince Asaka, an uncle of Hirohito who commanded the rape of Nanking.

The authors contend that Hirohito appointed Chichibu head of Golden Lily (named after one of the emperor's poems) in 1940, with Takeda as his deputy. According to their sources - participants and other eyewitnesses, as well as Chichibu's retinue - the two apparently traveled to China, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma, Malaya, Singapore, Sumatra, Java, Borneo and the Philippines, looting treasures and supervising their transport to Japan using ships disguised with hospital crosses.

The imperial family's actual role in Golden Lily was never apparent for several reasons, Seagrave says. "For example, Prince Takeda used a nom de guerre everywhere he worked in Asia during the war, so people who came into contact with him knew him by different names. This has taken us nearly 20 years to figure out," he says.

But the couple was able to pinpoint Takeda and others by putting together information gleaned from various sources.

"People who described Takeda to us physically knew he was a prince, but they didn't know which prince he was and weren't quite sure what his relationship was to Hirohito," Seagrave says. "It turned out there were actually uncles, cousins and brothers all there [involved in the plundering] at the same time."

After the war, the story takes a more sinister turn when US forces led by MacArthur occupied Japan, raising expectations that, among other things, democracy would flourish, the zaibatsu conglomerates that had bankrolled Japan's warmongering would be dissolved, and the guilty would be brought to justice.

But those hopes proved premature when Allied investigators proclaimed - falsely, the Seagraves say - Japan to be bankrupt, removing from it the duty of paying meaningful reparations.

In comparison with Germany, which has provided US$30 billion (HK$233 billion) in compensation over the years, Japan has paid only US$2 billion. According to Seagrave, "British PoWs received only US$48 each. Most victims got zero".

MacArthur also allowed Hirohito's own accountants to audit the emperor's wealth - which they hugely underestimated at US$100 million, a point that has been noted by others.

In addition the Supreme Commander Allied Powers announced that after taxes and other penalties, Hirohito had only US$42,000 in cash - a laughable figure in the Seagraves' opinion.

Not only did the imperious general downplay Japan's and the emperor's net worth but, the authors contend, he went out of his way to make Hirohito seem innocent of any war crimes by forcing wartime prime minister General Hideki Tojo and other officers to perjure themselves by claiming exclusive responsibility for the war.

But MacArthur was not alone. His aide, General Bonner Fellers, Hoover, and US ambassador to Japan Joseph Grew were also in on the conspiracy to exonerate Hirohito, the Seagraves say.

And Hirohito was not the only member of the imperial household to escape punishment. None of his family was tried for war crimes.

Why the deception? MacArthur and a clique of right-wing Americans (financiers included) wanted Hirohito to remain in power so they could hold him hostage to their demands, the authors argue. They needed to protect US interests in Japan, including massive loans and business investments made before the war. They also wanted a shield against communist expansion in the East.

"Hoover wanted conservative, anti-communist Japan to be America's political, commercial and financial ally in Asia," the Seagraves write. "Tokyo would be the Asian base for the Republican Party and its Wall Street supporters." {Yes, anti-democratic would be more correct and later in Vietnam as well.}

Even if the sham had stopped there, Tokyo and Washington would have enough reason now to take up the cudgels; there is likely to be a surge of reparation claims, for one. But there is more.

The Seagraves contend that while Washington was declaring Japan to be insolvent, between 1945 and 1948 agents of the Office of Strategic Services (which became the CIA in 1947) and US Army officers were led by an OSS officer, Severino Garcia Santa Romana, in the recovery of billions of dollars worth of war loot from mountain caves in the Philippines.

Gold bullion emptied from vaults were deposited in 176 bank accounts in 42 countries, they add. And some of this bounty ended up lining the pockets of Hoover and MacArthur."

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WWll And Why MacArthur Disappeared 06 Feb 2016 02:33 #2

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So you have some of the story related to why the US officials let many things happen and why Mac Arthur never RETURNED to public life.

" "The loot was earmarked for secret anti-communist operations during the
Cold War," Seagrave says.

"What this means is that there is now incontrovertible evidence of
collusion between America and Japan, while millions of war victims went
without any form of compensation to this day."

Seagrave's calm, steady voice belies the excitement he must have felt when
he found what he says is proof of this unholy alliance. "It's only as this
book began to come into its final form [in the past two years] that things
dovetailed - to the extent we knew beyond question there had been
collusion," he says.

"We were doing research at the Hoover Library in California and the
MacArthur Memorial Library in Norfolk, Virginia. At both places we
suddenly came across documents, personal notes, diaries, entries and also
some annotations that confirmed the link between General MacArthur's staff
in Tokyo and the people in the Philippines making these recoveries. That .
. led us to the bank documents that showed the Japanese war loot in bank
accounts in the name of Herbert Hoover and of General MacArthur."

How much did they profit from the war? "We know that when Herbert Hoover
died, his son had to get permission from the American Treasury to sell
US$100 million in gold bullion that was in his father's bank account,"
says Seagrave, adding that he has yet to calculate the exact amount
MacArthur had in his account.

But, he continues, "we do know MacArthur had an account with millions of
dollars in gold in it at the Hong Kong branch of the Sanwa Bank. He held
this account jointly with Hirohito. If that isn't collusion at the highest
level . . ."

According to Seagrave, the US has kept its role "in all of this very, very

But, "we got some documents connected to the CIA, who were involved in the
Santa Romana bank accounts. These were people who in the last 20 years or
so have been trying to get their hands on some of the gold deposits, for
their own benefit".

What are their names? "I'd rather leave that for the next book," Seagrave
says, estimating that the sequel, which will focus on the revelations
about Golden Lily, will be out in 18 months. "I need to have enough
documentation so that I can't get challenged at this point legally."

Seagrave's caution is understandable, considering the furore this book
could cause in Washington and in Tokyo (though, to date, there has been
nothing but stony silence). Already, however, the wheels of justice may be
starting to turn with new legal action being taken by war victims.

"What's happening now is that various PoWs and their lawyers are grouping
together in what could become something equivalent to the tobacco industry
class-action suit," Seagrave says.

"I think it could end up being a suit against the zaibatsu on the one hand
and the Japanese Government on the other.

"But, eventually, I think it's going to involve the US Government for

The Seagraves are also taking no chances by revealing before they are
ready the names of other players in this game of political poker. No doubt
they will also sleep easier as their web of researchers and sources
expands. "There might be people who become outraged and decide we have to
be murdered but it's not going to be that easy . . . murdering me is not
going to stop this story coming out."

After Seagrave's 1986 publication of The Soong Dynasty, in which he
revealed Chiang Kai-shek's underworld links, he and his family went into
hiding because of death threats. Seagrave, who grew up in Burma and has
spent his career investigating East-West history, is also the author of
Lords Of The Rim, which is about overseas-Chinese networks. Peggy
Seagrave, with whom he worked to produce Dragon Lady, a book about the
Dowager Empress Ci Xi, will be collaborating on the sequel to The Yamato

No doubt treasure hunters will take a close interest. As the Seagraves
point out: "In the Japanese holocaust, millions were killed and billions
were stolen, but the loot vanished. One of the great mysteries is what
happened to the billions of dollars' worth of treasure confiscated by the
Japanese army from a dozen conquered countries."

Chichibu had much of the plunder sent to him in the Philippines, where it
was hidden in 172 "imperial" locations for later shipment to Japan, the
authors say. In Japan, loot was stashed in several places, including
Nagano, where the 1998 Winter Olympics were held.

"We have no idea how much made its way to Japan, either overland from
China, through Korea or by sea," says Seagrave, who believes it is with
this secret fund that the zaibatsu financed Japan's post-war economic
"miracle". He also contends a member of the imperial family has confided
that the army had amassed more than US$100 billion in loot (in 1945
dollars), much of it salted away in the Philippines, where "it will take a
century to uncover".

Seagrave also believes "there are small repositories all over the place,
because individual officers or groups of officers managed to siphon off a
certain amount of loot".

"The equivalent of what were then the imperial sites in the Philippines
are known to exist in Sumatra, Java, Borneo and the Celebes. It's possible
there were some in Malaya as well," he says.

Seagrave says it is hard to say where else the loot may be hidden, because
in many cases wartime inventories fell into the hands of the Marcoses or
those who worked with them.

"But we have photographic evidence of site maps of these 172 sites and we
know one-third of them that have not been recovered," he says.

As to why countries have not made concerted efforts to reclaim their
stolen property, the Seagraves in part blame the tumultuous scramble for
independence after the war.

But they also point to ongoing operations - in the Philippines, for
instance, groups are trying to uncover loot at an army base in Rizal,
southeast of Manila.

In Nagano, however, Seagrave says: "I think the loot has simply been left
there as national treasure."

Perhaps it will be needed if Seagrave's dream is to come true. "All these people who've been cruelly treated and whose lives have been deformed by their experience during the war were simply cheated, very often by their own governments after the war in collusion with Japan," he says. "I hope the war victims in the end get what they should have had all along, which is some justice."

Published in the South China Morning Post. Copyright © 1999. All rights
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WWll And Why MacArthur Disappeared 06 Feb 2016 05:32 #3

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There are many outstanding issues and questions still up in the air in regards to the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. Americans were still being used as guinea pigs in atomic tests and Robert Oppenhiemer is still considered to be treasonous even though I and a friend of mine who was his cousin think he was a conscience driven objector to the need for power and plans to increase defense spending after the war. Looking backwards one can see issues with Russia deserved consideration but why were airplanes given to them after the war and then Russia was called an enemy and up went defense spending to the tune of tripling the budget very quickly. I am certain Japan would have surrendered before the bombs were dropped if the US had allowed the Emperor not to face war trials. But it appears there were many Americans including Herbert Hoover and General MacArthur who made billions or even hundreds of billions of dollars by saving Hirohito and his family who had stolen from all the nations they invaded. I have heard in the 1970s that Marcos had $5 Billion dollars in Swiss banks accounts.


"The controversy simmered over the years with major contributions by Martin Sherwin and Barton J. Bernstein but it became explosive during the mid-1990s when curators at the National Air and Space Museum met the wrath of the Air Force Association over a proposed historical exhibit on the Enola Gay.[3] The NASM exhibit was drastically scaled down but historians and journalists continued to engage in the debate. Alperovitz, Bernstein, and Sherwin made new contributions to the debate as did historians, social scientists, and journalists such as Richard B. Frank, Herbert Bix, Sadao Asada, Kai Bird, Robert James Maddox, Robert P. Newman, Robert S. Norris, Tsuyoshi Hagesawa, and J. Samuel Walker.[4] The controversy has revolved around the following, among other, questions:

•Were atomic strikes necessary primarily to avert an invasion of Japan in November 1945?
•Did Truman authorize the use of atomic bombs for diplomatic-political reasons-- to intimidate the Soviets--or was his major goal to force Japan to surrender and bring the war to an early end?
•If ending the war quickly was the most important motivation of Truman and his advisers to what extent did they see an "atomic diplomacy" capability as a "bonus"?
•To what extent did subsequent justification for the atomic bomb exaggerate or misuse wartime estimates for U.S. casualties stemming from an invasion of Japan?
• Were there alternatives to the use of the weapons? If there were, what were they and how plausible are they in retrospect? Why were alternatives not pursued?
•How did the U.S. government plan to use the bombs? What concepts did war planners use to select targets? To what extent were senior officials interested in looking at alternatives to urban targets? How familiar was President Truman with the concepts that led target planners to choose major cities as targets?
•Did President Truman make a decision, in a robust sense, to use the bomb or did he inherit a decision that had already been made?
•Were the Japanese ready to surrender before the bombs were dropped? To what extent had Emperor Hirohito prolonged the war unnecessarily by not seizing opportunities for surrender?
•If the United States had been more flexible about the demand for "unconditional surrender" by guaranteeing a constitutional monarchy would Japan have surrendered earlier than it did?
•How greatly did the atomic bombings affect the Japanese decision to surrender?
•Was the bombing of Nagasaki unnecessary? To the extent that the atomic bombing was critically important to the Japanese decision to surrender would it have been enough to destroy one city?
•Would the Soviet declaration of war have been enough to compel Tokyo to admit defeat?
•Was the dropping of the atomic bombs morally justifiable?

This briefing book will not attempt to answer these questions or use primary sources to stake out positions on any of them. Nor will it attempt to substitute for the extraordinarily rich literature on the atomic bombs and the end of World War II."

I would like to know the current state of affairs near the bomb blast sites. Would the abortion rate and mutations have some interest for you? It was not a powerful bomb in terms of yield - we have conventional bombs which are more powerful, so why not call it what it was? It was a means to deliver long term genetic terror, worse than just poison and similar to depleted uranium and dirty bombs used by Al Qaeda. Why is it you have phrases like Iraqi Freedom to hang on wars by the Allies and "dirty" bombs on what Osama's people were planning to use?

I lived in the US when GHWBush was President and the 50th anniversary of the invited attack on Pearl Harbor took place. I heard him say on the radio that the families of the military leaders who took the blame should be satisfied with his apology for what happened in the deceit surrounding the INVITED (and much needed) attack which would bring America into the war to protect Britain - which A Man Called Intrepid was a vital cog in arranging.

I had always heard about the code being broken in time to warn the US commanders in Hawaii but I did not know the extent of it. This video should be used in every American school system today, at every immigration center seeking people to become Americans - and the facts are overdue just as they are in the matters of Gamal Abdul Nasser, The Shah, Opium Wars and all sorts of trickery causing terrorism and war today.

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