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A Gift from the Gods 12 Feb 2016 19:12 #1

  • Robert Baird
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Why do I get such joy proving people like Robert Graves and Sir James Frazer to be correct? Does it have any merit to the present for people to learn how true it is that "history is prologue to the present"? Does it help religious scholars to learn where the myths of g-ds began or what a bard like Homer or Hesiod studied?

Archaeomythology might not be a 'see this is proof' kind of exploration but it leads places that people who need to see artifacts will miss.

"Mariolakos I.D.1 1 National and Kapodistrian University of Athens, Faculty of Geology and Geoenvironment, Department of Dynamic, Tectonic & Applied Geology, Panepistimioupoli, Zografou, 157 84, Athens, Greece, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Many believe that the Greek Mythology is a figment of the vivid imagination of the ancient Greeks. Consequently, the Greek Myths are all fantastic stories. In my opinion, this view is erroneous, at least on the subject concerning the geographic and physical-oceanographic characteristics of the Atlantic Ocean, as these were described mainly by Homer, Hesiod, the Orphics and Plutarch. In the present paper (i) some of the references made by the above mentioned authors are selectively reported, and (ii) the physical and geological validation is given, based on the present-day scientific views and knowledge. Namely, the prehistoric Greeks knew about the Hyperboreans, the island of Ierne (Ireland), the British isle etc., by the Orphics. From the writings of Plutarch, they knew (i) the relative position of the present-day Iceland (Ogygia) and its distance from Britain, (ii) that to the west of Iceland, three other islands are located, where the sun sets for only an hour a day, (iii) that further to the west there is a “great continent”, which surrounds the Ocean and more. Homer and Hesiod wrote that (i) the Ocean is a “river” that flows continuously, (ii) that this river encircles the Earth and (iii) that its flow is turbulent not only on the surface, but in depth as well. Unfortunately, all this knowledge was gradually forgotten by all. This is the reason why Odyssey is considered just an entertaining poem and Ulysses’ nostos a fantastic story, with no trace of historic reality."

We will explore more of this proof that Homer's work on the Trojan War probably leads to saying there was a worldwide war in 19 separate theatres of operation. In knowing that you will just begin to grasp how much we have to uncover about our true past. Starting at page 91 we have the above abstract.


I take great pride in seeing how my work is accepted and how my efforts have caused a sea change in history - but it hurts me to see people claiming some unknown Johnny-come-lately is getting credit for Cell Diffusion and migration or people saying the Copper Culture in the upper Mississippi only goes back to the Mycenaean era. Before the start of the last century there were many people who knew a lot more than Dr. Christine Pellech, I say. And I quote a panel of Smithsonian experts from many disciplines addressing the Lake Superior mines from that era. Then there are my friends at Inyo or Barry Fell and my Ogham scholars who knew Le Plongeon was not whistling Dixie as others I quote show the Caribbean was indeed a center for Cretan and Keltoi or Phoenicians even before Poverty Point and the great work of Jesse Jennings or the pediatric doctor named Haag who found it. But there was no one place this culture operated from, or in. It was a worldwide culture!!!!! It included the Olmec and black people and may even have originated with those people before white man existed as Professor Bernal suggests (Black Athena). I am seeing the DNN or Sidhe of an Ainu origin were perhaps the key people - and DNA is supporting this and Churchward (if you dissect his bad geology out of his research).


On page 138 of the upatras linked pdf file we have another author saying Atlantis was found. NONsense! Total idiocy and a demonstration of the superficial willingness of academics to say things about something they have not studied. Just because it fits Plato's description borne of his priestly cousins or kinfolk's myths does not make it a fact that Andalusia is the site of Atlantis. It was a (!) site as was Tartessus and Massallia nearby. In Columbus' Journals I noticed his description of the Taino who his purposeful genocide with the Plague eradicated. I remembered what my father had told me about the Andalusian genetic mix and beauty. I got a lot more verification in the Copperhead designs and elsewhere over time. And I look forward to the study of the deep city off Cuba which has been stopped for no good reason.

"Papamarinopoulos S.P. University of Patras, Department of Geology, Patra, Greece

Part V:

Atlantis’ location


Following strictly Plato’s information we reach Iberia and there we discovered the basic geomorphological characteristics of a horseshow shape flat and elongated basin which is surrounded by mountains. The basin reaches the Atlantic Ocean. This valley is Andalusia and it was missed by Herodotus and Hecateus, who lived a century earlier than Plato, and constructed North West Europe’s map. The Iberian civilization is reflected in the Greek myths prior to Plato too. Atlantis’ catastrophe in the shape of the concentric scheme’s, being in Iberia’s coast, was realized by earthquakes and a tsunami. The discovery of the very first Mycenaean vase’s fragment, in Guadalquivir’s estuary by Spanish archaeologists in 1990, offered the first archaeological evidence that the prehistoric Greeks had visited Atlantis after all before the 12th century B.C. The recent interest of the Spanish Archaeological Survey in Andalusia initiated because it has been proved geologically that the region had not been submerged since the last ice age. New evidence suggests that the waters may have receded in time for the Iberians in the period Tartesssos to build an urban centre, which was later destroyed by earthquakes and a tsunami as Plato describes in Timaeos and Critias for this region. Although platonic Atlantis could not be considered, as Thucydides would prefer, a historical text but it cannot be considered as a single paramyth either since some parts of his text have been proved already. It can be considered as a genuine myth containing a true prehistoric kernel covered firstly by a layer of inventions produced by transmitting people, the story, from generation to generation between the actual occurrence of the event within the 12th century B.C. and Solon’s 6th century B.C. who recorded it and then of the 4th century B.C. when Plato wrote down. Atlantis is also covered by a platonic paramythical layerfull of mathematics and musicological information which is recognized and can be removed liberating the genuine myth’s kernel from the platonic intervention."

Atlantipedia has collected a large number of people writing about things that could have some truth but they are usually just building a thesis around one perspective on Atlantis or history and then lies within our society and it's brainwashing. Here is another one which makes me wonder if the Atlantipedia people got the funding from the CIA or other agencies who want to discredit Cell Diffusion history who also engage in destruction of artifacts or allow Creationists to get their grips on sites like Acambaro and thus remove any possibility of ever proving ancients made toys for their kids - and the aliens and dinosaurs did not walk with humanity. This one has a computer nerd tracking 54 different possible theories including Professor Horbiger who helped Hitler write Mein Kampf and whose cosmic ice theories were partial understandings of Aristotle's dimensional atomic theories. The guy also includes various catastrophe merchants who take a little from all religions and act as if the stories of accurate prophecy or alien intervention are proven due to anecdotal one of a thousand occasional hits. Velikovsky is his best source.
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