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Barack Obama wins US election 07 Nov 2012 20:16 #1

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US President Barack Obama pledges to reach across the political divide as he basks in a clear election win over Republican Mitt Romney.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Scuse me for not jumping for joy... :roll:

As if it makes any difference who won. (well maybe to Iran it does)
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Barack Obama wins US election 07 Nov 2012 20:58 #2

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No matter who you vote for the government always gets in, I renounced my US citizenship in 1980 and I haven't seen any election or change that persuades me that i was wrong.
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Barack Obama wins US election 07 Nov 2012 23:29 #3

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How do "crowds" stir themselves up into such a state? And for people like Politicians, Royalty, Celebrities, etc?

*Rural Oral, I thought you did live in the USA. Where are you in the world, if you don't mind saying?*
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Barack Obama wins US election 08 Nov 2012 14:12 #4

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Derbyshire Uk, I left the US in 1973. :)
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Barack Obama wins US election 08 Nov 2012 19:45 #5

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Ah. Welcome Yankee-Doodle-Dandy. *Bit late* I hope you're happy in the U.K.

OT: Seriously, have you EVER in your life seen or met anyone who makes you want to scream, yell and wave a little flag about? Are these crowds paid or real? "Real" would be very scary indeed.
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Barack Obama wins US election 08 Nov 2012 20:19 #6

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Rural_Oral wrote:
Derbyshire Uk, I left the US in 1973. :)

I've never visited the US (apart from on television of course haha), but really I can't imagine anywhere more different from Alabama than Derbyshire :D

*edit* perhaps that's the whole point...?
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Barack Obama wins US election 10 Nov 2012 10:11 #7

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Well......I didn't, and have never, voted. Folks say that offers me no platform to opine.

Excuse me?

I, as a born citizen, renter, worker, sales tax payer, federal tax payer, vehicle owner tax payer, etc. disagree.

I resent being chumped lower than an illegal alien voter that can still get a driver's license and a credit line, reaping the benefits while paying nothing into the system. After all, it's my mother state that can't bloody count votes since 2000; that is so damn corrupt as to remind of the Old South voting practices of the 20's and 30's.

But I don't live in Florida anymore...I'm very glad and very sad at the same time. (It's a "There's no place like home, but you can never go back home" sort of conundrum.)

My father hasn't voted in about 40 years for the same reason as I, as I became disillusioned in 5th grade when we were taught about the voting process and the electoral college. If a person of such an age can be soured so young with such information, I'm surprised so many are just now catching up.

This doesn't mean I favored one candidate over another, no, I didn't like either. Was it here that I read voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil? Maybe on another site, but such is still true.

Anyway, the press if rife with European and global adulation of the sitting leader's reelection. The news showed photos of people 'round the world waiting with bated breath for the US election outcome and celebrating the reelection. I have to admit my curiosity with this thread's tone thus so far.

No, I did not say I'm against immigrants, just people (native born or otherwise - who take advantage of our system - a system that allows such - without paying into it like the rest of us have to.
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Barack Obama wins US election 10 Nov 2012 16:01 #8

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diamondgeezer wrote:
Rural_Oral wrote:
Derbyshire Uk, I left the US in 1973. :)

I've never visited the US (apart from on television of course haha), but really I can't imagine anywhere more different from Alabama than Derbyshire :D

*edit* perhaps that's the whole point...?

Rural Derbyshire is very much like rural Alabama, Wide open spaces greenery everywhere and of course inbreds. :)
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Barack Obama wins US election 10 Nov 2012 16:08 #9

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cantata wrote:
Ah. Welcome Yankee-Doodle-Dandy. *Bit late* I hope you're happy in the U.K.

OT: Seriously, have you EVER in your life seen or met anyone who makes you want to scream, yell and wave a little flag about? Are these crowds paid or real? "Real" would be very scary indeed.

HI, Most of these crowds probably just get caught up in moment as we human beings tend to do often.
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Barack Obama wins US election 10 Nov 2012 19:50 #10

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Rural_Oral wrote:
diamondgeezer wrote:
Rural_Oral wrote:
Derbyshire Uk, I left the US in 1973. :)

I've never visited the US (apart from on television of course haha), but really I can't imagine anywhere more different from Alabama than Derbyshire :D

*edit* perhaps that's the whole point...?

Rural Derbyshire is very much like rural Alabama, Wide open spaces greenery everywhere and of course inbreds. :)

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Barack Obama wins US election 10 Nov 2012 20:10 #11

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Coco wrote:
Anyway, the press if rife with European and global adulation of the sitting leader's reelection. The news showed photos of people 'round the world waiting with bated breath for the US election outcome and celebrating the reelection. I have to admit my curiosity with this thread's tone thus so far.

Yes, the media here attempted to portray the same illusion of mass interest....as if they thought that by repeatedly saying all of us Brits/Europeans would be sitting on the edge of our seats all night awaiting the results, they could somehow make it happen.

In fact the reality of the matter is reflected in this threads tone in my opinion. Interest was luke-warm at best.

Europeans are just as disillusioned with politics in general as you Americans are....more and more people are seeing the bullshit shining through.
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